Jul
26
Moseley to start Thursday
ByVia Bryan Hoch, Joe Girardi confirmed that Dustin Moseley will start against the Indians on Thursday in his pre-game press conference. Sergio Mitre will resume working out of the bullpen after apparently losing his job in his first start off the disabled list. Can’t say I’m expecting much out of Moseley, but let’s just hope for the best.
(Get well soon, Andy)
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Holy crap, short leash. Don’t mind so much. If he blows up bring in Nova.
A little unusual from Girardi, considering how he typically stands by his players.
yeah..Mitre is a girardi favorite. this suprises me a little too.
Well…we went from sucky to maybe less sucky? YAY.
Any chance that he is trying to showcase Mosely?
I would bet they’re trying to see if they should DFA him or not in preparation for new bullpen hands.
Who would want Dustin Moseley?
¿Los Tigres de Quintana Roo?
(Grabs bucket, blows chunks…)
Here are the career stats for two players:
Player A: 5.45 ERA, 1.524 WHIP, 5.4 K/9, 3.0 BB/0, 1.8 K/BB
Player B: 5.34 ERA, 1.522 WHIP, 5.2 K/9, 2.8 BB/9, 1.84 K/BB
One player is starting Thursday while one player is no longer starting Thursday.
Great comparison, this pretty much sums it up. Its a coin flip.
FWIW (and it might not be worth anything), only 23 of Moseley’s 68 career appearances are starts (33.8%). 64 of Sergio’s 103 career appearances have been starts (62.1%).
As starting pitchers:
Mitre: 5.48 ERA, 1.557 WHIP, 5.2 K/9, 2.9 BB/0, 1.85 K/BB
Moseley: 5.69 ERA, 1.681 WHIP, 5.7 K/9, 2.9 BB/9, 2.00 K/BB
Still a coin flip, but Mitre’s experience and lower WHIP gives me a little tiny bit more confidence. But I’m not really complaining.
It’s also possible that his sinker could be more effective in his second start. I’m not sure how likely, but it’s possible.
That too.
The results are pretty identical, but Mitre’s always been thought of as having better stuff. That’s a tiebreaker in my opinion as well.
Is Ivan Nova dead?
or involved in a deal that is close?
That makes too much sense.
I am the sexy man- go Mosely
Great, now when Moseley gives up 7 runs in 5 innings Mitre can come out of the pen and pitch a scoreless 3 IP.
+1
Well, at least it’s not Mitre. If he bombs out, I guess Nova gets a shot.
Thus starts the 5th spot carousel.
At least its not 2 months of relying on Mitre and Gaudin as the 4th and 5th starters. We only need another start or 2 out of the 5th spot until Andy gets back and we can go back to CC, AJ, Andy, Hughes and Javy.
True and add a weak schedule I have no worries.
Mustang with no worries?
PRAISE JESUS H. MONTERO!!!!
You mean
Praise Jesus “Ruth, T.Williams, Aaron, Mantle” Montero.
LOL
Dude, read your comments on the other thread.
Just wow !
Have they retired Montero’s number yet. LOL
You’ll thank me later.
Jesus Montero is the best hitting prospect we’ve had since Derek Jeter. Yes, better than Cano/Soriano/Johnson.
The bat plays, so the bat stays™.
Save The Big One™.
Maybe the Yanks think Mitre will be more valuable as a reliever and they can find another guy to pitch to a 5.00 era at best for 2-3 more starts.
don’t know why that went here.
Meant to be a fresh comment. But I really didn’t say much, so who cares.
I won’t get too attached.
Cashman’s on the phone with agents for Rasner and Ponson right now.
We sold Rasner to Japan at the end of 2008.
Mosley deserved this start with what he did in relief for Mitre where he absolutely shut the Royals down. Under normal circumstances I wouldnt be expecting much out of Mosley, but right now I am expecting less than normal because I think he’ll probably be on a pitch count.
Yay woooo? At least now I can stop hearing about how Girardi has a “ridiculous love affair” and other more, erm, PG-13 comments about Mitre.
(Get well soon, Andy)
I’m trying over here but one man can only take so many groin massages in one day, you know
A few weeks ago Lee was overkill for many now they have Mosely starting. Baseball is hilarious.
Moseley starting doesn’t make Lee overkill any less. In fact, adding Lee wasn’t overkill.
It was all Jesus Montero. Trading Jesus Montero for another pitcher was overkill then, and it’s still overkill now. Had the pricetag for Lee not involved Montero, I wouldn’t have called it overkill.
It’s not what we’re buying, it’s how much it costs.
“It’s not what we’re buying, it’s how much it costs.”
It amazes me how even this minimal level of nuance is lost on people.
Yeah.
If we had traded Eduardo Nuñez, Zack McAllister, and Kelvin DeLeon for Cliff Lee and I had said “OVERKILL!!!!”, you would have slapped me, and you’d have been right.
Lee was overkill only because no starting pitcher on the market when we already have 5 good starters is worth a top-5-in-the-game prospect.
that and we’ll likely being signing him in the offseason anyway
(nods)
I am sort of surprised that Nova is not giving a shot, I guess dumping one of Chad Ho Moseley would make the fans to happy. Ivan Nova has a sub 4 FIP, 54% grounders, and 7 K/9 in AAA. Honestly this is no worse of a choice that Mitre or Moseley why not give the kid a real shot.
Dumping one of Chad Ho Mosley? Unless that one is Chan Ho Park, I will not be happy.
I am DISGUSTED that we don’t have an all-star caliber 6th starter
/muffindick’d (I think?)
Heh, that wasn’t that guy.
oh. damn it. too many memes for me to keep straight sometimes. pass me a DFA IPA, please
Hey Moron,
Take this Pinstripe DFA IPA. WHAT’S THE MATTER, YOU CAN’T TAKE WHAT YOU CAN DISH OUT?
/Muffindick’d
I’m so disappointed I missed the brief history of muffindick.
Search “Cookiepuss says” and have fun.
It could’ve been Joba.
/hindsight but not really ’cause I advocated for it in ST.
On the plus side, it’s the Indians. So hopefully the Yankees can salvage a win anyway.
*reminds self that the 2009 Yankees won 103 games with Mitre and Gaudin in the rotation*
and wang who was worse than both.
And Hughes was poor when starting.
Yeah, no worries. We’ve got Tim Redding down in SWB to take over if Moseley fails.
Does Cash just want to prove himself a genius for scraping thse guys off the bottom of the barrel? Only so many Aaron Smalls.
Jon Van Benschoten.
BOOOOOM, THAT JUST HAPPENED.
Seriously, though, every team in baseball signs multiple Mitre/Moseley/Redding guys for emergency spot starts just like this. Not a big deal.
Signing em for emergencies is OK. Running them out there time after time as with Mitre harder to justify. Saw Nova in camp this spring and he looked pretty good.
Running them out there time after time as with Mitre harder to justify.
See 2009 New York Yankees.
Not a big deal.
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ent-991012
Running them out there time after time as with Mitre harder to justify.
Number of starts made thus far by someone other than CC/AJ/Andy/Vasquez/Hughes: 3.
It’s not a big deal. It’s a couple more starts, that’s it.
Or he’s just doing what every team does when a starter goes down for two weeks.
Aaron Small looked in pretty good shape on Oldtimer’s day.
If you’re going to pull the plug on Mitre, at least replace him with someone with more potential upside like Nova.
Cashman probably doesn’t want to make an unnecessary roster move (or expose Nova to a bad outing on the big stage) in advance of the trading deadline. Had this start occurred in August, I bet Nova would have been a bigger consideration.
I mean, if you bring Nova up, who’s going down? Joba, D-Rob, and Logan are the only guys in the pen you can demote without DFAing, and none of them are going anywhere (despite our Joba pleas).
No need to DFA one of the Chad Ho Moseley hydra before the trade deadline just for one start, that’s an overreaction. If Mitre’s not getting the start, it should go to either Moseley or Gaudin since they’re already on the club.
No over-reaction to DFA Moseley. Entirely sensible. But, OK, let’s hope he does well with this shot.
He’s had four appearances with the team and done just not-crappy enough to warrant a bit of a longer look. There’s no reason to make a move for making a move’s sake. He’s also not that old where he’s totally beyond hope and it’s not guaranteed that Nova is any sort of upgrade at this point.
I agree with not making roster moves. I just don’t see why Moseley instead of Mitre after one start.
I agree, I can totally see Mitre “shutting down” the Indians to the tune of, say, 7 innings 2 ER with the sinker going well. Can I see Mosely doing that? Not even in my wildest dreams.
Mitre doesn’t have to set the world on fire, just be serviceable. That’s why I place him over Mosely, the last start notwithstanding.
Yet it was Moseley who shut down the Royals for 4.2IP while giving up 1 hit and walking one batter, while Mitre went 4.1IP giving up 7 runs, 5 earned. The Royals are hitters, they get a lot of baserunners…look at CCs start against them, what was it 11 or 12 hits he gave up? Moseley held them to 1 through 4.2 innings.
After that start by Mitre, and mop up work by Moseley I say you give the kid a shot.
I agree, it’s the anti-showcase. Also who would get sent down?
What’s Dan Giese up to these days?
Giese had TJ surgery last year and has just started his rehab assignment for the A’s with AAA Sacramento.
via lohud: “Girardi said he thinks Mitre, because of the injury, is better prepared to pitch out of the bullpen rather than the rotation at this point.
“I don’t think he’s physically ready to do it,” Girardi said.
hmmm, maybe should’ve thought about that before sending him out there in the first place
Meh, what other option did he have? And before you scream “NOVA!!!”, consider the roster implications.
Giving a possibly not-all-the-way-ready yet Mitre a shot was a better option than DFAing someone two weeks before the trade deadline just to give a start to a greenhorn kid.
didn’t have to DFA someone.
Alby went down for Mitre. and although it was, IMO, the wrong move…You could have done the same thing for Nova to start until Mitre was ready…and then you could have sent down Nova for Mitre.