Jul
06

Robbie Cano, Homerun Derby participant

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Major League Baseball just announced six participants for next week’s Homerun Derby, one of whom is Robinson Cano. Can’t say I would have predicted that before the season. Cano leads all second baseman with 16 homers, which are good for top 17th most in the league. Que up the “it’s going to ruin his swing!” articles.

The others participants: Miggy Cabrera, David Ortiz, Vernon Wells, Corey Hart, and Matt Holliday.

Categories : All Star Game, Asides
  • Ross in Jersey

    In before ITS GUNNA RUIN HIS SWING!!!!!11!

    • Tom Zig

      There isn’t much evidence to prove it one way or another.

      • Ross in Jersey

        I have a hard time understanding the logic behind the “post HRD funk”. A guy spends a couple hours trying to crank out some home runs, and this screws up his swing indefinitely for the season? Isn’t it glorified batting practice? I really just don’t understand any of the logic.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          It happened to Bobby Abreu like, six years ago, and now everyone’s worried about it happening to every player in the HR derby.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            And besides, we all know the real reason why Bobby stopped hitting homers after that Derby:

            Laziness.

            • Mister Delaware

              But … Robbie is … OH NO!!!

              • http://soxandpinstripes.net Angelo

                ietc

          • Ross in Jersey

            Didn’t Morneau win the thing in 2008 and then go on to crank out like another 20 homers?

            • Tom Zig

              Nope. Only 9. But he only hit 14 in the first half.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              Anecdotal evidence that supports my preselected narrative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anecdotal evidence that refutes my preselected narrative

          • mikebk

            well then it happened to Wright as well i believe

        • Mister Delaware

          Same as certain guys not golfing during the season. Similar swing that can (maybe) knock out the game swing rhythm.

        • Tom Zig

          I know it doesn’t make a lot of sense and it could just be a huge coincidence. There are examples on both sides of the argument (Pujols 2009, Hamilton 2008, Abreu 2005) and I’m sure there are plenty of examples of people participating and going on to having a great 2nd half. (I just haven’t done enough research)

          • Ross in Jersey

            Yeah, I dunno, a HRD-induced funk seems like the sort of thing that has no statistical theory behind it and thus something that a sabermetric-minded site such as this would discount as nonsense.

            • Tom Zig

              I mean it could just be a giant coincidence. But I wonder if there is anything to it. HR/AB rates are down in the few people I checked on.

              • Fabio

                Probably just regression, if you played in the HRD, you probably belted a lot of homers during your first half, and more likely than not, you overproduced.

            • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

              Yeah, I dunno, a HRD-induced funk seems like the sort of thing that has no statistical theory behind it sounds very stupid and thus something that a sabermetric-minded site such as this sane-minded person would discount as nonsense.

          • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

            Hamilton’s home run rate was actually higher in the second half, he just had far fewer PAs

      • Mister Delaware

        Agreed, and I’d lean towards assuming it doesn’t have any real effect, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t help anyone’s swing. I’d rather he weren’t.

      • StatBoy

        The HR Derby participants will usually be players who are leading or close to leading the league in Home Runs at the ASB. Often they will be players you don’t expect to hit a lot of home runs who they are trying to reward for a hot first half (Wells, Cano, Hart). What’s more likely, that glorified batting practice has some horrible effect on a player’s swing or that the (often flukey) HR leaders Pre-ASB will be the exact same players who hit the most HRs post ASB?

        For Reference:
        Cano HR/FB: 15.7% (2010) 11.5% (Career)
        Hart HR/FB: 18.1% (2010) 12.1% (Career)
        Wells HR/FB: 18.8% (2010) 12.1% (Career)

        We’re going to see these guys hit fewer home runs Post-ASB and it will have nothing to do with the HR Derby.

        Also,
        Abreu HR/FB by Month in 2005:
        Mar/Apr: 4.2%
        May: 52.4% (!!!)
        June: 20.0%
        July: 4.5% (This is probably where everybody freaked out about him not hitting HRs after the ASG)
        August: 19.0%
        Sep/Oct: 10.0%

        He’s 13.5% for his career.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          StatBoy FTW.

  • rbizzler

    Weird. He is not really the slugger type, but I guess it is all in good fun.

    • Kiersten

      Robinson Cano, SLG: .565. Good for 5th in the AL.

      • rbizzler

        Touche. I should have inserted the term prototypical.

        Better?

  • Tom Zig

    I really wish Cano wasn’t part of the HR derby.

  • Poopy Pants

    Oh no. Not good.

  • Across the pond

    I think I heard Eric Karros’s head explode.

    His RBI skillz!!

  • A.D.

    Figure Cano is probably one of those guys that either hits 1 HR or wins the whole thing.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    The others: Miggy Cabrera, David Ortiz, Vernon Wells, Corey Hart, and Matt Holliday.

    Can’t say I would have predicted that before the season.

    I’m a bit nervous but hopefully he goes out and destroys all.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      I want Corey Hart wearing sunglasses during the Derby.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK’s Mystique and Aura

        Kei Igawa is going to pitch to him.

        • RollingWave

          they really should call Kei to the derby just to pitch to Robbie, guarenteed win

      • kunaldo

        Haha you beat me to it!

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    The others participants: Miggy Cabrera, David Ortiz, Vernon Wells, Corey Hart, and Matt Holliday.

    Wait, Big Papi is hitting? But who will leap around like a goofball oaf court jester with exaggerated antics after every shot hit by every participant? Can David clone himself in time to celebrate his own homers vicariously?

    Will he be able to use Clone Papi afterwards to help him find the real killers?

    • Across the pond

      Bugs me no end how easily he’s gotten away with the juicing. I’ll be booing vigorously with every swing.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Meh, I don’t even want to boo him. I want to boo the media assmunches who don’t badger the fuck out of him like they did with countless others.

        • Tom Zig

          like they did with countless others.

          You mean like A-Rod and his family?

    • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

      Considering how long he takes to round the bases, he will have plenty of time to clone himself.

    • Poopy Pants

      Cano will probably take over with the foolishness during Papi’s at-bats.

    • mikebk

      him when everyone else hits

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    I wanna see Joey Votto in this thing.

    http://www.sadtrombone.com

    • poster on another computer

      I wanna see Nick Swisher in this thing.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        TWSS

    • Brad Toughy

      Honest question here: does a Derby participant have to be selected to the All-Star game? Or can they grab anyone they like?

      Okay, maybe two honest questions, or one and a follow-up.

      • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

        I think so, and I’m going to cynically guess that that played a large part in why Carlos Pena was named to the game.

        • Across the pond

          Pena isn’t in the Derby though?

          • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

            you are quite right

            I think so, and I’m going to cynically guess that that played a large part in why Carlos Pena was named to the game last year.

            sorry

      • http://www.facebook.com/adorador Ray Fuego

        They don’t have to be participants of the all-star game

  • Rob Has no Innings Limit

    Wow. What a shitty HRD lineup.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      It’s like an NBA Slam Dunk Competition headlined by Gerald Green.

      Wait, that actually happened?!?! GTFO.

  • Ivan

    3 years from now, RAB article will have the headline:

    Jesus Montero, Homerun Participant.

    /Fantasing’d

    • jsbrendog (returns)

      3 years from now, RAB article will have the headline:

      Jesus Montero, Homerun Participant. Champion

      /Fantasing’d

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Three years ago, an Ian O’Connor article dated a few days before the 2007 Home Run Derby was edited a few days after the Derby to have the headline:

        Vladimir Guerrero, Home Run Derby Champion

  • Pete

    I’ve been hoping for this for years, just because I want more of the world to know just how fuckin far Cano can hit the ball when he turns on it. However, I expect one of two things to happen:

    1. Cano hits one home run in the derby, a liner the other way, gets knocked out in the first round, and goes his merry way (and continues his MVP-caliber season)

    2. Cano zeroes in on only those pitches he can hit out, hits like 30 HRs, and finds that the whole experience, rather than throw off his swing, improves his plate discipline, and makes him a perpetual .330/.420/.600 hitter with ~35 HRs per year for the next decade.

    Yeah.

    • Carlosologoist in Humid Ass Colombia

      Scenario 2 would be awesome.

    • jsbrendog (returns)

      jimp

    • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

      Barry Bonds was .298/.444/.607 for his career

      Scenario two = insanely unrealistic, but quite possibly the most awesome thing I have ever heard

    • Total Dominication

      330 avg? 360 or bust.

  • Brad Toughy

    I don’t see Angels Stadium as being a great park to watch a home run derby in. It doesn’t have much charm or great milestone locations to try and hit. Seems the past few years have been some pretty neat HR parks.

    Everyone wanted to see if Josh Hamilton could hit one out of Yankee Stadium, he didn’t, but he put quite a few deep in the upper deck. St. Louis had Big Mac Land or whatever it was, and San Francisco and Pittsburgh featured some splash hits.

    Apart from the rocks in center, LA doesn’t seem all that interesting a place to hit a homer.

    • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

      What’s wrong with the rocks? Most ballparks don’t have more than one interesting place to hit a home run

      • Brad Toughy

        Maybe it’s just me, but the rocks are a nice touch for game HRs, but not particularly difficult to reach for a HR derby participant.

        • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

          Not the bottom of the rocks, but I bet we’ll see some launched pretty far out there.

          If nothing else, it will be better than the derby in SF where no lefties made it out of the first round. SF = really boring place for an all-righty derby.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          Fun Fact: the longest homer ever hit at Edison Fields of Angel Stadium in Anaheim and Los Angeles of Southern California in the Great American West of the North American Continent inside the Western Hemisphere was hit in 2008. It went 466 feet.

          Who hit it, you ask?

          This guy.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Like Shea Stadium, for example. It’s so boring, it makes watching paint dry fun.

  • Brad Toughy

    And I’m assuming there will be two more participants named later this week or early next. Unless MLB is cutting the field to just these six.

    Maybe waiting on Joey Votto to win the fanvote.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    CC should really participate in this

    • http://twitter.com/stophamm3rtime Dela G

      lol they should have him, dan haren and micah owings added to the competition

      • ROBTEN

        They could have a round of CC versus the Astros, first to one wins.

        • http://twitter.com/stophamm3rtime Dela G

          hahahahahahahahahahaha

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          See Dela G’s response, because I almost just typed out the exact same thing. Awesome.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        and Zambrano. Actually Zambrano should just go to the All-Star Game, that’d make it so much better.

  • Kiersten

    The HRD will never be as good as it was in the steroid era.

    • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

      2008–not the steroid era

      • http://soxandpinstripes.net Angelo

        Teh facts!

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    The last time the Home Run Derby was at Edison Fields of Angel Stadium in Anaheim and Los Angeles of Southern California in the Great American West of the North American Continent inside the Western Hemisphere was 1989. Here were the final numbers from that contest:

    1989 Home Run Derby

    American League
    Rubén Sierra,Texas: 3
    Mickey Tettleton, Baltimore: 1
    Bo Jackson, Kansas City: 1
    Gary Gaetti, Minnesota: 0

    National League
    Eric Davis, Cincinnati: 3 (winner)
    Glenn Davis, Houston: 2
    Howard Johnson, New York: 2
    Kevin Mitchell, San Francisco: 2

    The sad thing is, I didn’t make any of that up at all.

    • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

      Man, the 80s sucked

    • http://soxandpinstripes.net Angelo

      Sierra was a monster!

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        The original El Caballo.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Oh my God that’s hilarious.

    • CS Yankee

      Mitchell had to be the favorite going into that i’m guessing…wasn’t Gaetti just a diaper hitter?

      Where was Mac, Canseco, Crimedog & the Griffey?

  • vinny-b

    and Oswald acted alone.

  • BG90027

    No Omar Infante?

  • Paul

    I got a text that Cano pulled out <— hurray