Aug
19

Eduardo Nunez is in New York

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Chad Jennings hit us with a surprise this morning: Eduardo Nunez is in the clubhouse. That undoubtedly means he’ll be activated before the game. That brings into question the corresponding roster move. By all appearances Lance Berkman is headed to the disabled list. He hasn’t played since he hurt his ankle on Sunday, and his name is not listed on the lineup card as a bench player. Nunez gives the Yanks a bit more flexibility in the infield as A-Rod heals.

The good news, then, is that it’s not A-Rod to the DL. While I don’t think that putting A-Rod on the shelf for two weeks would be the worst thing, a DL move itself would be troubling considering the circumstances. At first his calf injury was not serious and that no tests were scheduled. No tests scheduled, of course, means tests were scheduled. That revealed a Grade 1 strain, which is not serious. But if they placed him on the DL it would indicate that A-Rod’s injury is a bit more severe than they’ve let on.

Berkman’s DL trip will be retroactive to Monday, so he’ll be eligible to come off the DL just as rosters expand. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Yanks give him the extra two days and activate him on the first.

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  • Brad Toughy

    Mike must be devastated.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Time to rewrite the Top 30 Prospects list.

      /O’Connor’d
      /Pearlman’d

  • http://twitter.com/j_yankees j_Yankees

    It’s ok everyone. All this means is that Cervelli is probably going to catch an extra 2 games while the Yankees can put Posada at DH.

    WAHOOOOOOOO

    /this was sarcastic’d

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Maybe Nuñez is going to be our new backup catcher.

  • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

    And yet Ramiro Effin’ Pena is still playing third today. Why is Girardi so in love with these crappy players when he now has a better option?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Did you see Ramiro’s triple last night? Dude is an offensive force to be reckoned with.

      He’s a cross of Eddie Mathews, Mike Schmidt, Brooks Robinson, Graig Nettles, and George Brett, with a little bit of Jim Brown and Darryl “Chocolate Thunder” Dawkins mixed in. You don’t sit a juggernaut like that on the pine, you get him into the lineup as much as possible.

      • Thomas

        Pena’s triple last night was his second extra-base hit of the season.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          HE’S ON FIRE, SON!

          • UncleArgyle

            Ride the hot hand like Seatle Slew.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        A Darryl Dawkins reference? My day is fucking made. Thank you, Tommie.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          I was going to go with World B. Free, but I wanted to say “Chocolate Thunder”.

        • Thomas

          http://www.rouladeunlimited.co.....yl-dawkins (safe, though you may die from awesomeness)

      • Pete

        I’d rather take Frank Robinson than Brooks, but of course Cashman had to go and trade Arodys away

    • Hughesus Christo

      Jobbers (Girardi) love jobbers (Pena, Cervelli). This doesn’t really explain Torre’s love affair with Andy Phillips, but I’m trying.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        I don’t even care why Torre loves Andy Phillips, I just want to know why he hates Scott Proctor.

        • http://ballcraft.blogspot.com Zanath

          Poor Scotty P

    • Jose the Satirist

      Pena has a 39 wRC+ in 120 PA. I can only assume he is black mailing Girardi to be in the lineup instead of Nunez.

    • Brad Toughy

      What has Nunez to done make anyone believe he’s a better option as the third baseman?

      Nunez has a .721 OPS in Triple-A this year and has 17 games of experience at third base (6 in A-Ball, 11 this year at AAA).

      This type of comment is why Joe Girardi is the manager of the Yankees and you are not.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        What has Nunez to done make anyone believe he’s a better option as the third baseman?

        Not be Ramiro Peña.

        • Brad Toughy

          Nunez hasn’t exactly overwhelmed the minors with his bat or his defense.

          Does his slight uptick in offensive production outweigh the significant downgrade in defense? Especially for just a handful of games?

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            Nunez hasn’t exactly overwhelmed the minors with his bat or his defense.

            Peña’s overwhelmed everything even less. If you’re going to tell me that Nuñez can’t hit and will probably suck, I’ll agree with you. But Peña’s even worse than he is, by every expectation.

            • Shaun

              .289 in AAA is not bad, and scouts have been saying he’s improved his defense. He is still a major upgrade(honestly I think he can hit better than that) over Pena and his .207 avg, besides most people believe he’s major league ready.

      • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

        Ramiro Pena is the worst player in the Majors with at least 100 at bats this year. The least Girardi could do is try Nunez, even if odds are good he’s going to suck.

        This type of comment is why Joe Girardi is the manager of the Yankees and you are not.

        Actually, I think the real reason is because I’m 27 and in law school with no professional baseball experience.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          The reason Girardi’s manager and you’re not is because you’re a filthy #$%, Kabak!!!

          /RonanTynan’d

        • Brad Toughy

          Worst OFFENSIVE player. There’s a chance Nunez will be more productive than A-Rod too, even if the odds are he’s going to suck.

        • Jose the Satirist

          “Ramiro Pena is the worst player in the Majors with at least 100 at bats this year. “

          Brandon Wood would like a word with you.

          • Thomas

            Pedro Feliz actually has the lowest fWAR with -1.5 to Woods’ -1.4, though it is in 124 more PAs. However, Feliz has been a negative with both the glove and the bat (Woods defense was league average).

      • Thomas

        Eduardo Nunez’s .721 OPS in AAA at age 23 is higher than Ramiro Pena’s age 23 AAA OPS of .637.

        Also Pena’s career high (minors and majors) in OPS is .699 in 121 PAs last year. Nunez’s lowest over the past 3 seasons is .688.

        I would expect Nunez to out hit Pena, while fielding the position adequately.

        • Chris

          So putting in Nunez instead of Pena will trade off a slight improvement in offense for a worse defense (especially considering Nunez’s lack of experience at 3B). I would probably probably give Nunez a shot, but it’s not as clear cut as everyone seems to be making it out to be.

          Also, you have to consider that Pena is hitting .286/.333/.571/.905 since A-Rod got injured. (Ok, it’s only 9PA so you don’t really have to consider it)

  • Doug

    If ARod were healthy, think Montero may have gotten the call? Or would it have been Miranda? Or maybe they would’ve done nothing since Berkman sounds like he’s relatively close to playing.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Since Montero’s not on the 40 man and Miranda is, I’ll say the latter.

  • nathan

    As soon as I saw that note on LoHud I was certain it was Arod with some bad news.

    Anyone still daring enough to think Arod hits 30 HRs?

    • VO

      31, book it.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        We have 3 more games against the Red Sox in September, and he’ll hit 10 homers in that 3 game set, so I’ll say “Yes”, he makes it to 30 homers.

        (I’m kidding. Or am I?)

      • Pete

        that’s the total I’ve got

  • Jay T

    Benjamin-

    Pena has played better of late and has earned the start. No offense to Nunez.

    • Zack

      Pena is hitting .222/.250/.333 in August
      Just because he has a hit in back-to-back games doesn’t mean he’s playing better

      • Thomas

        Yeah, but in the last week he is hitting .272/.333/.455 in 12 PAs. Just like Sabathia, when the weather gets hot, SO DOES HE!

        • Zack

          Please let it be 120 today then

      • Brad Toughy

        But he’s hitting .273/.364/.455 since A-Rod’s injury. It’s remarkable how when a player gets to play a few games in a row that he can hit better than three at bats a week off the bench.

        Pena will never be a asset offensively, but his defense with a couple of hits here and there isn’t terrible as your ninth guy. And he’s a better option than Nunez is now.

        • Zack

          Since the 16th? That’s 7 ABs

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          And yet, back in June, he had 5 straight starts in relief of ARod and hit .125/.222/.125. Did the magical rhythm of playing everyday that’s helping him hit well now somehow not work back then?

          Or does Peña just suck and he’s getting lucky at the moment? I’ll take the latter.

          • Jose the Satirist

            That is why Joe Girardi is manager and you are not.

          • Brad Toughy

            I’m not saying Pena’s god’s gift to hitting, but having him play good defense for a couple of days while A-Rod rests isn’t the end of the world and doesn’t make Girardi an idiot.

      • Ed

        I hate to break it to you, but as sad as it is, those stats you just mentioned actually do mean that Pena has been playing better.

        Pena’s season before August: .209/.247/.220

        • Zack

          If you want to nitpick like that fine, but the orgiinal post was that he’s playing better and “has earned the start”, which is false.

          • Ed

            Right, he hasn’t earned the start. I was just commenting on how pathetic Pena’s season has been.

    • Jose the Satirist

      He has 2 XBH all year. A triple last night and a double on May 8th.

      • Ross in Jersey

        Do you think he could ever hit a homer? I guess it would have to be a dink shot off the pole or something. I swear I’ve seen him swing as hard as possible and make solid contact a few times, but the ball dies about 275 feet in center.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          Do you think he could ever hit a homer?

          Dustin Pedroia hits homers.

          The defense rests.

          • Nate

            Dustin Pedroia is 20 lbs heavier and several inches shorter than Ramiro. I can’t help but think that I could out-lift Pena.

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          He hit one last year in Toronto; it managed to clear the wall in RF right next to the line by about two feet.

          • Jose the Satirist

            It was in NY. It didn’t even look well hit. Just made it over the wall.

            http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......id=6901319

            • Thomas

              BOOMBOX!!!!1!!

            • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

              Oh, I’m thinking of one of Gardner’s homers. My bad.

  • ABS

    Mike is mourning somewhere, in a deep depression given that the worst prospect in the history of the Yankees is now with the team. He is sure to wreck the clubhouse with his evil kinda not great OBP and lack of 30 HR power…

  • Ross in Jersey

    I don’t give a shit who’s playing third as long as Cervelli isn’t catching. Posada behind the dish 3 days in a row? My pants need changing.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      You do realize that that just means Cervelli’s going to catch Friday and Saturday’s games in all likelihood, right?

      • Ross in Jersey

        DON’T RUIN MY EMOTIONAL HIGH

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Yeah, and it fucing sucks ’cause I’m going on Friday. Sado better be DHing tomorrow night.

    • Tank Foster

      Can any of you gents think more than one move ahead?

      It’s GOOD that Girardi is playing Pena and Cervelli so much. It just means we’ll have fresher regulars in October.

      Young Bull: Hey dad, in that pasture way up there! Look–COWS!
      Father Bull: Yeah, nice, huh son?
      Young Bull: Oh yeah. Let’s run up there and F*CK one!
      Father Bull: No, son. Let’s walk up there, and F*CK ‘em ALL!

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        That.

  • http://161ststreet.wordpress.com Chris

    Would Brandon Laird have been a better option? I know he’s not on the 40-Man Roster, but doesn’t he have to be placed on it in the off-season anyway to protect him from the Rule 5?

    Or maybe Kevin Russo?

    I know it doesn’t really matter. None of these players would make or break the Yankees season, but I’m just curious.

    • pat

      Cash haaates cutting a guy loose until it’s absolutely necessary. That means he’ll hold onto Gaudin and WDLR and the rest of the fringe guys for as long as possible. Laird would need to take one of their spots on the 40 man.

  • Cy Pettitte

    in order of strongest possibilities for Nunez getting a spot

    1. Berkman DL
    2. Gaudin DFA
    3. Arod DL

    imo

    • Brad Toughy

      Winner.

  • http://dontbringinthelefty.blogspot.com Lucas AA, aka don’t_bring_in_the_lefty

    Berkman’s been DL’d, Chad Jennings says.

    • Jose the Satirist

      Retroactively?

      • Jose the Satirist

        And my question is answered in the post now. Retroactive to Monday.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joe Pawlikowski

          You’ll never see a non-retroactive DL move. It’s always from the first day the player didn’t play.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            Pretty much, yeah. Because even if you don’t intend to activate the player right away on the 16th day, you want the flexibility to do so if disaster strikes.

            • Jose the Satirist

              Makes sense. Thanks guys.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                My question is, how many days do we have after his 15-day stint is up to actually assign him somewhere? Is it three days (unless he gets placed on a rehab stint?) For some reason three days is stuck in my head. I could be wrong.

                • Ed

                  I’ve never heard of any limit other than the max length of a rehab assignment. I’m not even sure you have to activate him when the rehab assignment ends – didn’t Lowell sit on the DL after his rehab ended for a while right before Youkilis got hurt?

                  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                    That’s true. I just figured there has to be some sort of requirement that a player be put back on a roster at some point. I can’t imagine the player’s union likes for teams to have the ability to just let healthy players rot on the DL.

                    What about the Mets with Oliver Perez? He forced his way back onto the team.

                    • Ed

                      I doubt the union likes it, but there’s a limit to how much they’ll complain. If a guy’s on the DL, he gains service time as does the guy who takes his spot. When he gets activated, either that player or someone else will be optioned or released and will stop gaining service time.

                      Looking more closely at Lowell, he only played 5 rehab games. He was still in the 15(?) day rehab window, so what the Sox did probably wasn’t really anything too odd. Maybe they are required to activate people at the end of the rehab time.

                      I don’t know anything about Perez’s case though – I didn’t really follow him.

          • Carlosologist

            A question about DL retroactivity: Since Berkman was placed on the DL retroactive to Monday, has he already accrued three days of DL time?

    • Frigidevil

      YES just confirmed with a tweet

  • Esteban

    Why not bring Miranda back up if they’re trying to replace Berkman as the DH? How does it help to have both Nunez and Pena on the roster?

    • Cy Pettitte

      so they can pinch hit for Pena and not have Cervelli or Thames as third base?

      • Esteban

        That makes sense, since Ramiro Pena is maybe the worst hitter ever as a righty. But at the same time, Miranda fills the exact same role as Berkman does/did right?

    • Apollo22237

      I guess it would be since they already have Thames to DH if necessary also, while if A-Rod is out for a little while longer, who is the other 3rd baseman. Unless Thames can do that too, hehe.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Why not bring Miranda back up if they’re trying to replace Berkman as the DH? How does it help to have both Nunez and Pena on the roster?

      If ARod didn’t have a mild strain, they probably would have brought up a bat instead of Nuñez. But in the short term with his barking leg, it’s nice to have another kid who can play 3B so that Peña’s not the only option.

  • bonestock94

    I just wanna see the Puma hit multiple homers in pinstripes now, why must my dream be shat on.

  • Steve O.

    Chad Gaudin sucks, but he’s not going anywhere for a position player. Teams value depth. Berkman or A-Rod are likely headed to the DL.

    • Steve O.

      Bah, reply fail. This is in reply to Cy Pettitte

  • vin

    I don’t mind Nunez getting a shot. However, I’m a little surprised Russo didn’t get the call. He has more experience at 3b and has already had a taste of the big leagues. He already knows what its like to sit on a big league bench and make 1 or 2 starts a week.

    • Ross in Jersey

      Probably because we’ve been down that road before. After getting a couple hits against the Mets, he was god awful with the bat and didn’t play very well in the field, either. Why not give Nunez a look-see and see what he has? They’re essentially the same player at this point.

      • vin

        That’s probably the reason. But for whatever reason I could see Cash and Girardi preferring Russo for the reasons I listed. Not saying it would be right.

        One small thing that Nunez has going for him is that he’s a pretty legit pinch running option. He’s stolen 23 bases this year, while only being caught 5 times.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          If he can prove over the next 6 weeks that he can handle SS defensively on the big stage and he can steal a base or two, he’d be a nice upgrade on the postseason roster over Peña.

          But he needs to be able to steal at will, not just be decent. Otherwise, Peña’s superior defense is probably the more valuable skill.

  • kosmo

    Bringing up Nunez is a good move which IMO has very little to do with Pena.Pena has become ARODs caddy .Nunez will be Jeter´s.It allows Girardi to rest Jeter a little these next 2 weeks additionally it helps Girardi in case AROD needs to sit giving him more flexibility.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      The biggest advantage is, with both Peña and Nuñez able to handle both 3B and SS, you can pinch hit for either of them (with Thames or Kearns, whomever’s not playing that day) and not be forced to bring in ARod or Jeter, thus spoiling the intended day of rest for the regulars.

    • Mike HC

      We are fast approaching the point in the season where Jeter should not be sitting much, if at all. Especially if ARod is not playing. And Jorge has to be catching like every fucking day as well. At some point, Girardi has to play his best guys everyday. Maybe not quite yet, but real damn soon.

      Nunez was probably called up to be a back up infielder for the next week until ARod can be relied upon again.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        At some point, Girardi has to play his best guys everyday. Maybe not quite yet, but real damn soon.

        That point is October 5th.

        • Mike HC

          I would say earlier. More like September 10th.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            By September 10th, the Red Sox will probably be far enough back with too few games remaining to be real contenders, making the Rays and Yankees a virtual lock to share the AL East title and Wild Card in some fashion. Our playoff odds on September 10th will be in the mid-90s.

            We all want to win the division, but if the Wild Card is a near certainty, there’s no reason to run our aging vets into the ground.

            • Mike HC

              I was going under the assumption all three teams will be in it. And if that is case, you have to turn it on full throttle by Sept 10, old guys and all, in my opinion of course.

              If the division is the only thing in question, then I agree, no need to overextend too much.

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                Boston’s only three games over .500 for August. They haven’t looked anything more than mediocre for a while, and they need to be playing lights out to catch us. And now they’re getting injured again.

                They’re toast.

                • Mike HC

                  I hope you are right.

                  I fear you are wrong.

                  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                    FWIW, Boston’s playoff odds are currently 15.5%. Ours are at 89.9%.

                    http://www.coolstandings.com/b.....gs.asp?i=1

                  • Steve O.

                    The Yankees and RedSox have about 42 games left. The Yankees are five and a half games above them. Meaning if the Yankees go 21-21(.500) the rest of the way, the RedSox have to go 27-15(.643) the rest of the way. Just think about that.

                    They’re dead. I’ve already prepared the eulogy.

                    • Mike HC

                      Crazier things have happened. Far crazier.

                      I have confidence, but am not as sure as you guys that the Sox don’t have one last (or their first) run in them.

                    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                      I wasn’t confident either, until I looked at their flawed, incomplete roster, lack of more than two good starters, and numerous road games.

                    • Steve O.

                      Under these circumstances, I’m very confident. Their starting pitching outside of Buchholz and Lester is terribly suspect. Their offense is missing four regulars in Youkilis/Cameron/Pedroia/Varitek. Two of their best hitters are out for the season in Youkilis and Cameron.

                      If all this wasn’t going against them, then I’d be a little less confident in them making a run.

                    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                      You can put Ellsbury in that “out for the season” grouping as well. The prognosis for recovery from his rib injury (again) has him coming back for the next-to-last game of the year.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    Spinning it forward (because that’s my thing), it makes sense to keep both Nuñez and Peña around for the next two weeks since it lets us rest/LIDR ARod and Jeter at will. But we don’t need both of them playoff eligible; only one UTI is needed come October.

    I’d like to use the gift of Berkman’s DL opening and send one of them down (probably Nuñez) on the last day of August to get playoff eligibility for another member of the 40-man more likely to contribute in October, like Miranda or Albaladejo.

    Which leads me to a followup question: If we were to send Nuñez back down to the minors on, say, August 30th, does he still have to wait a full 10 days before coming back up, or does the September 1st roster expansion date give an exemption from the 10-day rule?

    • Steve O.

      Which leads me to a followup question: If we were to send Nuñez back down to the minors on, say, August 30th, does he still have to wait a full 10 days before coming back up, or does the September 1st roster expansion date give an exemption from the 10-day rule?

      I’m not sure, and I can’t find this on the interwebs. I would think so, because roster expansion is like a mass call up if you will.

    • Ed

      If we were to send Nuñez back down to the minors on, say, August 30th, does he still have to wait a full 10 days before coming back up, or does the September 1st roster expansion date give an exemption from the 10-day rule?

      He has to wait 10 days, or until his team’s season ends. Staten Island’s season ends on 9/5 and I believe they aren’t making the playoffs, so anyone optioned to that team can return on the 6th. I don’t know if there are other teams that are better options.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Thanks.

  • Mike HC

    So, we finally get to see the alleged reason we don’t have Cliff Lee. I hope this guy can help the team.

  • vin

    “I’d like to use the gift of Berkman’s DL opening and send one of them down (probably Nuñez) on the last day of August to get playoff eligibility for another member of the 40-man more likely to contribute in October, like Miranda or Albaladejo.”

    For some reason I though in order to be playoff eligible a player had to be on the 40 man and either be on the 25 man by September, or at any other earlier point during the season. I’m probably wrong, but I always thought that was the case.

    I like your concept though.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      I used to think it’s simply “at any point during the season before September 1″, but that’s incorrect.

      It’s actually who’s on the 25-man roster at midnight, August 31st. If we were to option Phil Hughes down to Scranton on August 30th and not bring him back up until September 1st, he wouldn’t be playoff eligible because he wasn’t on the roster on that final, all-important day. It doesn’t matter that he was on it all the days before that.

      It’s the 25 man roster on August 31st + the guys on the major league DL. That’s it. Miranda and Huffman and Russo and Curtis and Albaladejo and all the other kids who made brief cameos but are back in the minors aren’t eligible unless they come back up before rosters expand.

      • Steve O.

        This. Way to clear that up, Tommie.

      • Steve O.

        The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team’s 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position.

        So, Juan Miranda could easily be playoff elgible as a PH now that Nick Johnson’s suffered another setback.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          True, Nick looks like a potential get out of jail free card, since his chances of making it back by Game #162 are dimmer.

        • Ed

          I’ve never heard the same position qualification before – are you sure about that?

          Being on the 40 man roster is not a requirement though. In what’s probably the most obvious instance of this rule, K-Rod was not actually added to the Angels 40 man roster until his September 2002 callup. Another case was a few years back the A’s reached a point during where every 2B on the 40 man roster was injured and they had to add someone to the 40 man & playoff rosters during the middle of the ALCS.

          • Steve O.

            I believe you can just add someone to the 40 Man to take said player’s place. I don’t think the replacement player has to be on the roster at the time of injury or roster expansion.

          • Mike HC

            This was the best explanation I was able to find:

            Playoff Rosters: Playoff rosters must be set at 25, not including disabled players, on August 31. For each player on the 60-day DL, teams may add players to the eligible list during the playoffs at the same position, provided that they were in the orginization on August 31… Teams must choose 25 players from their playoff eligible list before each round of the playoffs.

            • Steve O.

              provided that they were in the orginization on August 31

              This was my understanding. The exemption works for any player at the same position, but the replacement player obviously has to go on the 40-man roster to actually play in the postseason.

              • Mike HC

                The rules are tinkered with like every year. So it is tough to keep up with the ins and outs of it.

                But I think we got it covered good enough now.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            I’ve never heard the same position qualification before – are you sure about that?

            Steve’s right about that part and wrong about the 40-man part.

            A player on the 60-day DL at season’s end grants an exemption to the team to replace him in the pool of playoff-eligible players with someone who

            A.) plays the same position he does (catcher for catcher, infielder for infielder, outfielder for outfielder, pitcher for pitcher), and
            B.) was in the team’s organization as of midnight August 31st.

            To replace Nick Johnson, you don’t have to be on the 40-man (like K-Rod wasn’t), but you have to be a Yankee infielder who was a Yankee by the end of August. If we sign Luis Heredia on August 30th, he can replace Damaso Marte (if Marte’s still injured). If we don’t sign him until September 1st, he can’t replace Marte.

            That’s how it works.

            What I don’t know is, how specific the positional requirement is. You can only replace a catcher with another catcher, but I don’t know if you can replace a second baseman with a third baseman or if that player has to have played a certain number of games/innings at the specific position in question. My guess is any infielder can replace any infielder, but that’s not explicitly clear anywhere I can find. And I don’t know how DHs are treated.

            • Chris

              I thought the positional restriction was only position player vs pitcher, not down to the actual position played.

              • Mike HC

                you are right:

                The rules also say that if a player eligible for the postseason is hurt and can’t play, the team can request permission from the commissioner’s office to replace him with a player from the minor league system, with a few restrictions. The player must be on a minor league roster within the organization as of Aug. 31 and still with the organization at the end of the regular season. Also, an injured pitcher can only be replaced by another pitcher and a position player by another position player, although these positions don’t have to match.

            • Steve O.

              Meh, I forgot about the player not being able to be on the 40-man. I’m batting .500.

              What about being a DH? Can we say Nick Johnson was our DH so we want our best hitter in the minors to do the same? I’d imagine it’s just a 1B, but it’s food for thought.

            • Ed

              Thanks for clearing it up – the positional requirement made sense, I just hadn’t heard anything for or against it before.

              As for the specificness of things, I’m would think you’re right on infielder for infielder. I believe the commissioner’s office has to approve the substitutions, so I think that’s how they handle teams trying to abuse the rule.

          • Chris

            I don’t think it affects the 40-man roster issue, but the rules have been changed since K-Rod came up.

  • Jorge

    Austin Kearns = “Real Yankee”
    Fat Puma Elvia = “Not a Real Yankee”

    I jest.

    Toss-up between Nunez and Pena, at least as of this minute, as far as I’m concerned, although I’ve heard so much about Nunez being the better at this point that I am, at the very least, curious.

    • Mike HC

      ha. On board with all of this.

    • David (In Seattle)

      At least with Nunez and Pena available, Nunez can pinch hit for Jeter, when we just need one out to end the inning and the DP isn’t necessary

      /sarcasm(?)