Fan Confidence Poll: August 16th, 2010


Record Last Week: 3-4 (26 RS, 23 RA)
Season Record: 72-45 (617 RS, 475 RA, 73-44 Pythag. record), one game up
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Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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  • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    Yankees in August: 6-8 (PANIC!!!)


    Rays in August: 7-7
    Red Sox in August: 8-7

    And, exhale.

    • Rose

      Rays Vs.
      Yankees: 1-0
      Twins: 2-2
      Jays: 0-3
      Tigers: 2-1
      Orioles: 2-1

      Red Sox Vs.
      Tigers: 1-0
      Indians: 2-2
      Yankees: 2-2
      Jays: 2-1
      Rangers: 1-2

      Yankees Vs.
      Rays: 0-1
      Jays: 1-2
      Sox: 2-2
      Rangers: 1-1
      Royals: 2-2

      I think the big stinker is the Royals. And the frustration from getting (what seems to be) steals before the trade deadline and actually performing worse as a whole afterwards.

      Everything else is pretty much the same. You would just assume the Yankees would steamroll the Royals and they didn’t. Not to mention stranding many opportunities to win the two games they lost as well.

      • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        The point is, while not winning a series against the Royals sucks, the Sox also failed to win a series against the Indians and the Rays went 2-4 against the Jays and Orioles combined.

        People act like the Yankees losing a game is a catastrophe because our pursuers are playing .900 ball. They’re not. All teams lose, even good teams to bad teams down the stretch. We’re not the only playoff contender who is going to be frustrated and disappointed by letting a potential series win against a probable cupcake opponent slip through our grasp down the stretch.

        • Rose

          Of course and I completely agree. I think people are just upset with completely different issues (injuries to older players, new acquisitions not performing up to par, as well as the team doing worse than they were doing before) all while disregarding what the other teams are doing.

          Instead of pinpointing every little thing they’re upset about…they just point to the August record because it’s easier for them than explaining everything as a whole (whether or not they are right about that either).

        • BklynJT

          For me, it’s not so much about how the Rays and Red Sox are playing, but how our team is playing. We should at least be winning series against the Royals, and its pretty annoying how we can’t really beat the Jays this year. With that said, this is a tough stretch with no days off, so it should be kind of expected.

          • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            I’m not saying not to be frustrated that we’re not beating the Royals. I’m just asking people to keep things in perspective and not act like losing to the Royals means we’re irreparably flawed and we’re going to get overtaken in the standings and miss the playoffs.

    • kosmo

      I simply state NY is 6-8 in the month of August.No cause for panic just a simple statement about reality.Not an alarmist statement by any means just trying to put things alittle bit into perspective.
      Yankee offense is not hitting well.Period.
      Will they rebound? Probably yes.

      They have a 1 game lead so things will remain interesting for the time being.

    • Captain Jack

      That’s still a game out of the August Wild Card.

  • The209

    I went with a 7…

    the failure to execute in spots and the ongoing age issues are the big negatives for me.

    lots of people keep saying “imagine this team when they fire on all cylinders” — but that just might never happen; too much age all-around.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      lots of people keep saying “imagine this team when they fire on all cylinders” — but that just might never happen; too much age all-around.

      You have a point. My rebuttal: This team can still win the title without ever firing on all cylinders. That’s how good it is.

      Just like last year’s team, which also won a title without ever firing on all cylinders.

      • Rose

        Comeback Wins: 51
        Blown Leads: 24

        Comeback wins: 37
        Blown Leads: 21

        Then again

        Yankees Record on August 16th, 2009: 74-44
        Yankees Record on August 16th, 2010: 72-45

        Eerily consistent with last year regardless of situations and circumstances.

        The difference lies in this area:

        Rays Record on August 16th 2009: 63-54 (10.5 games back)
        Rays Record on August 16th 2010: 71-46 (1 game back)

        Sox Record on August 16th 2009: 66-51 (7.5 games back)
        Sox Record on August 16th 2010: 67-52 (6 games back)

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          We have fewer comeback wins this year due to fewer comeback win opportunities. Our starting pitching has improved, putting us in fewer early holes.


          • Rose

            Right, but we almost have just as many blown leads as we did last year and there’s still 45 games left to play. Which means our bullpen is significantly worse AND/OR some of those pitching gems are cracking later in the innings…which perhaps evens everything out depending on how you look at it.

            Regardless, while looking at the other teams doing poorly in August boosts your confidence in one aspect. Looking at those same other teams in comparison to where they were last year and where they are now should make you, at least a little, more nervous than you may have been last year.

            • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              Right, but we almost have just as many blown leads as we did last year and there’s still 45 games left to play. Which means our bullpen is significantly worse AND/OR some of those pitching gems are cracking later in the innings…which perhaps evens everything out depending on how you look at it.

              I’d suspect that if you examined both last year, you’d find that most of those blown leads came in the first half of the season. Girardi/Cashman’s bullpen plan means we usually have a mediocre pen in the first half (that blows several leads) and a good-great one in the second half (that doesn’t blow many leads).

              I’d expect that to continue this year, thus, we shouldn’t predict numerous more blown leads going forward.

              So, no, your logic is not correct, we don’t have a significantly worse bullpen this year than we did last year. Mo-DRob-Logan-Joba-Wood-Mitre-Gaudin is just as good as Mo-Hughes-Aceves-DRob-Coke-Bruney-Albaladejo was last year, probably better.

              • CS Yankee

                I agree, except I don’t think they plan to have a mediocre pen in the first half but they need to find out who can get the job done and make those who don’t available elsewhere and add a piece at the deadline. The net result is that they are better come the second half due to rewarding the sucess & failure (almost) equally.

                Also, it needs to be pointed out that Hughes a) had a beast of a second half and b) he real role is as a starter so some dropoff from last years pen had to be expected.

                1-7 (or technically 1 & 3-7), less the setup (’09 Hughes), this pen has far more talent. Compare Coke, Bruney, Albie and CO to Logan, Wood & Drob (’10 version). Hands down, this is a better pen.

                • CS Yankee

                  err, excuse the run ons, etc.

                  Busy day at the office.

  • Beamish

    An 8 on Opening Day, an 8 at the All-Star break and still an 8 today…well, at least it I am consistent.

    Over the course of the Season to date they have never dominated long enough for me to get more excited and vote 9 or 10, but neither have they ever played so poorly that I was tempted to vote a 6 or 7.

  • Ross in Jersey

    Still voted 9. Didn’t like how the team played yesterday at all, but I still believe they’re the best team in the league and they still have the record to prove it. Until they drop in the standings I don’t see how we can’t be confident going forward.

    Hopefully they come home here and rattle off a few wins in a row against the Tigers who frankly looked non-competitive against the Rays and Red Sox (and since the break, for that matter).

    Think I might try to catch Tuesday’s game… tickets are dirt cheap! Guess no one wants to see the poor Johnny Damon.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Hopefully they come home here and rattle off a few wins in a row against the Tigers who frankly looked non-competitive against the Rays and Red Sox (and since the break, for that matter).

      The Motor City Kitties are 9-22 since the Midsummer Classic.

      Ouch, babe.

      • Steve O.

        They’re still sitting pretty at only 10.5 games back in the division with multiple teams to pass.

        /Ned Colletti’d

      • Ross in Jersey

        That puts them on a pace to win negative 42 games!


      • Mike Axisa

        Johnny Damon is personally responsible for all nine wins too.

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          30.2 IP, 18 earned runs, 3 homers, 5.28 ERA, .292/.351/.408 against, 16/10 K/BB, 1 win, 3 losses.

          That’s Porcello’s last five starts, in case anyone wanted me to bring them to you.

          • AndrewYF

            Why don’t we see any ‘Porcello to the bullpen’ articles?

        • Steve O.

          Also Austin Jackson and Phil Coke. That trio just won’t let up.

  • Rose

    I put a 7

    The fact that they are doing worse (regardless of how any other team in the division is doing) than the months prior gives me no reason to give them either of the two other ratings I’ve given so far in the season. Nobody should be rewarded for failing, declining, or even “missing a beat”. Not that they should be punished…but you don’t reward mediocrity or failure. It’s just the way it is.

    That being said, I don’t think they’re going to be a failure…I just don’t have as much confidence as I did the previous months due to the obvious. I think it speaks for itself and makes perfect (common) sense.

    I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if I voted a 9 on the next confidence poll though either. They’re capable of being that good.

  • CS Yankee

    A 9 (again)

    Yes, 3-4 blows. Losing to the Sox on Monday wasn’t good and losing two 1-run games to the Royals wasn’t fun either.

    Let’s look at Texas series though. They threw their #1 & 2 guns against us, are use to playing in the heat, having Ryan just won the bid (officially) on National television with President Bush (version 1), were sold out, and were playing this series like it was the WS.

    We countered with our #2 & #4/5 guys on the bump and almost won both games while Teix was holding his wife’s hand (as he should). Texas has to be the one that is sad that they couldn’t get it done with everything in their favor for that series.

    Chipping away at the lead aginst Lee in Texas and having the ultimate bullpen explosion seems to mean more than going 3-4 this week.

  • Jose the Satirist

    Still a 10.

    This team has been great at avoiding bad streaks this year. They haven’t dropped 4 games in a row yet. The last Yankees team to accomplish that was the 1980 Yankees.

    They have the best run differential and best record in baseball. This team is having an exciting year.

  • Matt on Earth

    I posted a 7 which is pretty much where I had them pegged all year. They have been in a bit of a lull this month but much to their credit, are still in first place. Also, for a team who has been slumping offensively, I think they still boast the most runs scored and the best run differential.

  • Pete

    still a 9. A rough patch isn’t going to change that. I could see voting an 8, but with the way the farm has been performing and after having signed our top 3 picks of the draft, it’s hard not to like the “overall future” part of it

  • Reggie C.

    The lineup failed AJ yesterday, and as frustrating as it is to split a 4 game series against the Royal with Cheese team, i’m more hopeful of a bigger offensive display when the Yanks return home.

    Still at a 7. Set backs to Ace & Pettitte could still occur. Cervelli’s exposed at the plate, and his lauded defense is suffering too. There’s no way a 1 day instructional fixed Grandy’s hitting woes. Thank Mo for for the Jays tough play against the Rays.

  • Brooklyn Ed

    If you think about it, the Yanks would had blown out the Royals if they were playing at home. Half of the lineup hits the ball deep enough to be a home run at home or other fields, only to be caught right in front of the gate. A-Rod would had ended the series with 4 homers, Granderson with 2, Cano and Swisher with 1.

    • Jersey Johnny

      Coulda, woulda, shoulda. The fact still remains they were shut out by a never-was. They should’ve been forced to take the train back to NY instead of some cushy, chartered flight. Watch this team drop 3 of 4 to the Tigers.

      • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder


      • CS Yankee

        your logic = fail

        Take a train after a 6 game, 100+ degree road trip where they went 3-3 and lost the three games by 1-run (each) and now they are needing to be sent some message? Plus be more tired from the ride?

        Again, your logic equals fail.

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          I wonder how long it would take an MLB team to quit on Jersey Johnny if he was their manager.

          I’ll set the line at 25 games, and I’ll take the under.

          • CS Yankee

            I wouldn’t take the over if you counted Spring Training games.

          • Angelo

            I’m still trying to figure out if Jersey Johnny is really talking about baseball…

            • bexarama

              Jersey Johnny was pretty sane in this one game thread so I was like “oh, he’s not actually a troll” and now he wants the Yankees to get swept just to prove a point. IDGI.

              • Matt on Earth

                The dude’s just venting frustration I think. Not really that big off a deal.

                • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                  Yes, I always wish that my team would lose important games just to spite other fans out of frustration.

                  (rolls eyes)

                  • bexarama


                    Statements like what he said here are fine, if silly, IMO. Wanting the team you root for to lose games just to prove a point though… yeah, I don’t get that.

                    • Matt on Earth

                      Granted. I’m not saying it’s rational. I’m just saying it sounds like venting to me. People get very worked up on these forums over silly comments.

                    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                      “People get very worked up on these forums over silly libelous, accusatory, demeaning, counterintuitive comments.”

                      Yes, we do.

                  • Matt on Earth

                    Take it easy, dude. It’s a baseball blog. Frankly, you don’t really need to be sarcastic in your response either. Besides, I wasn’t even the one who made the comment to begin with. I’m just saying when people get worked up they vent out their thoughts. It’s good though you have such passion though.

  • rek4gehrig

    Down from 8 to 7. Goes back to 8 after Andy gets back.

  • Bob Stone

    9 (still – 9 all season). I like the improvements in the pen. I still beleive there are going to be a few stretches when the team IS firing on all cylinders (despite the age issues raised earlier in this thread).

  • bexarama

    I’m still a 9 like I have been pretty much all season. A rough stretch isn’t going to make me change my mind about the team overall. Though it’d be cool if we could have some awesome blowout wins and Pettitte could come back, like, relatively soon.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Did you see my baseball secrets? They posted two of them.

      • bexarama

        This one has gotta be you, right?

        Can’t figure out the other one. The one about the Blue Jays being contenders? The one about Pettitte being a hypocrite (sob, sob)?

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          My other one was a Ron Dibble satirical special:

          • bexarama

            Ahhhh, I thought that might be someone trying to be tongue-in-cheek.

            • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              I did the text in Cincinnati Reds colors.


  • Bill

    I seriously can’t believe that 9 people said they have no confidence in the team. That is mind-blowing, even for the internet.

  • Angelo

    How can nine people vote “1″ on 1-10 scale? That doesn’t make sense. Then again, some fans are just plain irrational.

    Unless everyone has a .900 OPS and every pitcher has an ERA under 3.00, people are always going act like the sky is falling.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      My guesses on who voted 1:

      Jersey Johnny
      Jon Sherick
      Jon Sherick
      Jon Sherick

      • bexarama

        Bret has his own issues to worry about because the Orioles are falling out of it.

        By “it” I mean “the Rendon sweepstakes,” of course.

        • Angelo

          I still wish the 2008 Yankees would have lost all of their games in September, just to get a really high draft pick.


          • CS Yankee

            I still wish the 2008 Yankees would have ran the table in September and being Moose’s year, Joe’s 1st year, & the stadium’s last year would of meant #27 (a year earlier). Hopefully, they still would have signed the big three and have #28 in the bank as well.


        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          I’ll laugh if the O’s can’t sign Manny Machado. Olney said on SC today that there’s a chance he goes to junior college and heads back into next year’s pool.

          • Angelo

            I have no words for the O’s if this happens. That’s just sad.

          • Reggie C.

            That’d be just sad. Manny Machado has gotten Arod comps.

            • keithr

              That’s just because he’s a latin SS from Miami.

  • nsalem

    Despite a 6 and 5 record over the last 11 games i am at a high point in my confidence level due to the recent success of our bullpen. The only earned run the BP has yielded since August 4th was by Mariano in the extra inning loss to Texas. Robertson gave up 2 IR’s in his save and besides that we have been basically flawless. Logan and DRob have restored sanity to the 8th inning. Joba seems to have found himself in the under rated seventh inning role and the addition of Wood may be much larger than I thought at the time. Ace is will be back soon and even Gaudin in his limited time seems much sharper. If the BP can sustain anywhere near this level of performance over the rest of the year the wins will come.

    • nsalem

      0.32 Bullpen ERA in the 11 game stretch.

  • Angelo

    Read the commenting guidelines

    • Angelo

      RAB deleted the message here…

      You guys are quick! Well done!

  • Angelo

    Although I already figured Jordan wasn’t signing, this sucks.

  • Riddering


    This team isn’t firing on all cylinders for long spans of time? They’re still firing enough cylinders to be a very, very good team.

    This team is going through a rough patch and not winning too many games and series? Still on top, baby, with what you can expect to be a surge soon because this team just doesn’t slump for long.

  • Kiersten

    Still a 9. Obviously it wasn’t a great week but they still have the best record in baseball so we can’t really complain. Plus, we won a game in which Cliff Lee pitched so hopefully all the “omgz we can’t face Cliff Lee twice in a 5 game series!!!!!!!!111111″ will stop.

  • Carlosologist


    I’m still confident in this team. Sure we’ve gone through a rough stretch but I think this will be 6-1 homestand because A-Rod rediscovered his power stroke, Jeter is hitting the ball well for the first time in a while, and the bullpen has been lights out all month. This team is prepared to go deep into October.

  • ChrisS

    Still good enough to win it all, but there are legitimate question marks. If it was only for this season, I’d rate them an 8.

    Age, poor depth and, probably more importantly, willingness to continue using that poor depth. A legitimate stud in AAA with no role on the team this year or next year (or next year). Gardner’s been in a black hole since the AS break (though he’s showing signs of snapping out of it). Granderson’s been even worse. Posada is showing his age more and more. Jeter is looking his age (with a nice BABIP floating some recent hits).

    The team is good enough to win now, but the lack of serious revitalizing options combined with heavy commitments to aging players hurts the chances and limits flexibility next year.

    It’ll be an interesting winter, that’s for sure. My guess is that Jeter gets the lifetime contract, Crawford and Lee sign, and Pettitte retires. Howe well A-Rod does going forward at 3B/DH, where Posada and Jeter fit in (and how), and who replaces that level of production is going to take some thought.

    • Carlosologist

      We’re not getting Crawford due to the emergence of Gardner. Gardner is still cheap and doesn’t head to arb until after next season. Pettitte probably won’t retire if we win it all again.