Game 121: Three out of four is always nice


It’s a getaway day for the visiting team, which means we’ll play a matinee. I suppose this means lots of Gameday and radio followers. That’s always fun.

There’s not much to say before this one that we haven’t already said. Eduardo Nunez is with the team, replacing the injured Lance Berkman. A-Rod remains on the shelf, though the move to bring up Nunez, I would think, means he’ll be back and at DH in a day or so.


1. Brett Gardner, LF — seems he’s comfortable in this spot
2. Derek Jeter, SS
3. Mark Teixeira, 1B
4. Robinson Cano, 2B
5. Nick Swisher, RF
6. Jorge Posada, C
7. Curtis Granderson, CF
8. Austin Kearns, DH
9. Ramiro Pena, 3B

And on the mound, number sixty-five, Phil Hughes.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Not Tank the Frank says:

    St. Phil overpowers the Tigers today. 6.1 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 8 K a nice little strikeout bounceback.

    /gut feeling’d

  2. Michael Kay really works hard to be unlikable, huh?

  3. If we’re going back to the lefty leadoff hitter + Derek Jeter in the 2 hole scenario like the classic Damon/Jeter pairing that we eventually scrapped, I want Gardner stealing EVERYSINGLETIME he gets on first base.

    I hate seeing GIDJs.

  4. I like the fact that the Yankees are missing the greatest active home run hitter and their top two DH bats (Berkman and Johnson)…

    and we still have a Tex-Cano-Swisher-Posada-Granderson power meatgrinder in the middle of the lineup.

    The Yankees: We’re better than you.

  5. Dirty Pena says:

    This means Cervelli is gonna be catching a lot, doesn’t it? Someone please tell me it doesn’t.

    Someone get me an adult beverage.

  6. OOOOH, SEGMENT 2! I love Segment 2. I really, really enjoy Segment 2.

    Minka Kelly

  7. Chris says:

    seems he’s comfortable in this spot

    They really put way too much effort into analyzing the 31 AB he’s gotten as a leadoff hitter.

  8. Over/Under: 4.5 changeups.


  9. Mike HC says:

    To further clarify the discussion in the last thread about playoff rosters:

    The rules also say that if a player eligible for the postseason is hurt and can’t play, the team can request permission from the commissioner’s office to replace him with a player from the minor league system, with a few restrictions. The player must be on a minor league roster within the organization as of Aug. 31 and still with the organization at the end of the regular season. Also, an injured pitcher can only be replaced by another pitcher and a position player by another position player, although these positions don’t have to match.

    So it is not specific position. Just position player or pitcher.

  10. Mike HC says:

    I’m really looking forward to watching Hughes today. I hope he puts a show on.

  11. Steve O. says:

    I will be Gamedaying.

    For shame. Hughes is my second favorite pitcher on the staff to watch.

  12. Apollo22237 says:

    Pena dived into some pasta.

  13. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    I missed a full week of baseball, as I was on a cruise, disconnected with the cyber world. This is going to take a little getting used to again!

    I checked Hughes’ last outing and it didn’t look too good despite the win. I would love to see a nice bounceback on my return home. GO HUGHES!

  14. Alex says:

    “You can get fancy with ERA”

  15. I’m shocked, SHOCKED that Rick Porcello has scuffled after being great. I assumed that “growing pains” was some bullshit myth, and that Porcello would dominate forever after dominating initially.

    I can only now assume that Porcello will suck forever and never dominate again, since he’s not dominating now.

  16. bexarama says:

    Is Kay already annoying or is it just me?

    (Obligatory disclaimer that I would rather have him than FOX or ESPN)

  17. Cy Pettitte says:

    fastball looks good today

  18. Marc says:

    I reeeeally hate the phrase “past a diving Pena”

  19. Ross in Jersey says:

    Watching slowass at work, delayed by a few minutes :( So tempting to read here or look at gameday to find out what happened!

  20. Troll says:

    effin A

  21. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Seriously…how the hell did he do that?

  22. Cy Pettitte says:

    first inning 2 run HR curse?

  23. Evan in NYC says:

    That’s what happens when you don’t have a put-away pitch.

  24. Apollo22237 says:

    Bean him, he hasn’t been hit lately

  25. Hummingbird S. says:

    maybe they should stop pitching to Miggy.. it’s definately not working.

  26. Ugh.


    I’m glad Miguel Cabrera isn’t, and won’t be, a member of the Boston Red Sox.


  27. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    Damn Hughes sucks!

  28. Chris says:

    Why does Phil even bother to throw a curveball? It’s such a horrible pitch for him.

    • phughesisgod says:

      Uhh, just because Miguel Cabrera hit a homer off of it that looked as if it just kept carrying, doesnt mean its a horrible pitch. Its actually a very good pitch for him.

    • Johan Iz My Brohan says:

      If he threw it more often, maybe that ‘horrible’ pitch will get better!

  29. Mushy Carl says:

    0-2 count he gives up a single Will Rhymes.

    0-2 count he gives up a 2 run home run after the count goes full to Miggy. So annoying.

  30. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    Sit down Damon!


  31. Ross in Jersey says:

    Yeah, I think it’s time to start making Johnny Damon beat you. The best hitter on the planet is insanely hot right now.

  32. Apollo22237 says:

    Haha, little do the Tigers know that getting a 2 run HR in the first inning actually decreases your chances of winning.

  33. Cy Farnsworth says:

    We need to get Miggy back on the bottle.

  34. Cy Pettitte says:

    Porcello perfect game through one, this team sucks


  35. Adam says:

    Imagine if Miggy had actually ended up with the Red Sox this year (assuming he would have a similar season).

  36. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Cabrera’s great, but you have to take Pujols.

  37. Mushy Carl says:

    Cabrera won a world series with the Marlins Paul

  38. rek4gehrig says:

    Walk Miggy already, jeez!!!!!!!

  39. I’ll take Cabrera. Three years younger, fewer injury concerns.

  40. Klemy says:

    Another 0-2 hit…man.

  41. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Yeah let’s forget what the strikezone is too ump. That’s lovely.

  42. Evan in NYC says:

    Every hitter has been 0-2. Hughes needs to develop a put-away pitch. He was awesome his first time through the league because they didn’t have the scouting reports on him they do now. He needs to adjust to be successful.

  43. Steve O. says:

    So, I go out to grab some lunch and when I come back the Yankees are down 2-0 with another Miguel Cabrera HR. Sumamabitch.

  44. Mushy Carl says:

    Wouldn’t it be nice if he threw his change up right here?

  45. phughesisgod says:

    Good fielding, guys!

  46. phughesisgod says:

    LOL, gameday. An 84 mph pitch with 8″ break is not a fastball.

  47. Kilgore Trout says:

    Ground ball on a change up?

  48. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Strike zone’s been awful so far.

    • phughesisgod says:

      Thats putting it lightly. Its a complete joke today. A pitch right down the middle and above the knees is a ball.

      • phughesisgod says:

        I mean, its a ball with this ump, but it should really be a strike.

        We really need an editing feature here!

  49. Nate says:

    “D Jeter lined out to first.” What is this magic? I haven’t seen a line like that before.

  50. Mike HC says:

    This team could really use a power surge from Jorge right about now.

  51. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Wait…the Yankees have SEEN Porcello before. This doesn’t make sense.

  52. Rose says:

    Young decent pitcher who’s had success in the past but struggled this year? Just face the Yankees and you can wedge a solid gem in your resume like nothing.

  53. bexarama says:

    Did Michael Kay say the Tigers are in a pennant race? Wut?

    (Oh look I see on Twitter all the Grandy haters came back out because of one at-bat. lols.)

    • JFH says:

      granderson is a total bust. cashman should be flogged for signing him. long is a failure for his inability to fix his swing. the yankees are going nowhere all because of granderson, who sat too close to cervelli in the dugout and now does not try hard enough!

  54. phughesisgod says:

    Breaking news: Rocket will be indicted for perjury in front of congress.

    • Mike HC says:

      Breaking News: Nobody but Congress seems to care.

    • Rose says:

      Funny how Congress indicts somebody as useless as Roger Clemens for perjury…but when the President of the United States, an infinitely more important person (in theory), does it – it’s swept under the rug. No way the government does anything shady at all…no way.


      • Was Bill Clinton even a citizen?!??! I never saw his birth certificate, did you?!??!?!

        • Rose says:

          William Howard Taft wasn’t a citizen…so when did we start caring about that anyway?!?!?

          • Rose says:

            And he created one of the greatest catastophes in the history of mankind

          • FACT: every single US President has been a citizen of the United States, Rose. Even Taft and Obama.

            You’ve had some dumb conspiracy theories, but this is your dumbest one yet.

            • Rose says:

              Ohio was never actually formally admitted as a state. Therefore, he was not a citizen of the United States when he was born, elected, served his term, or even died.

              They had to tamper with documents in order to “retroactively” go back to 1803.

              As for Obama, his citizenship is the least of my concerns.

              • Ohio was never actually formally admitted as a state. Therefore, he was not a citizen of the United States when he was born, elected, served his term, or even died.

                Ohio was a territory of the United States. People born in Ohio before it was a state were still citizens of the United States. People currently born in US territories (Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the Northern Mariana Islands) are all citizens of the United States.

                This is dumb bullshit, Rose.

                • Rose says:

                  In 1873, The United States Attorney General ruled the word “jurisdiction” under the 14th Amendment meant:

                  “The word ‘jurisdiction’ must be understood to mean absolute and complete jurisdiction, such as the United States had over its citizens before the adoption of this amendment. Aliens, among whom are persons born here and naturalized abroad, dwelling or being in this country, are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States only to a limited extent. Political and military rights and duties do not pertain to them.”

                  • The Taft family weren’t “aliens”, Rose. Aliens would be people who emigrated here from another country. Taft didn’t emigrate to Ohio, he was born there. His parents were from Massachussets and were also not aliens. Being born in a U.S. Territory to two citizens who were similarly born in the United States makes Taft and his entire family citizens.

                    Seriously, Rose, this is literally the dumbest shit you’ve ever written, and you’ve written oodles and oodles of dumb shit.

                    Stop talking, you’re embarrassing yourself.

            • Rose says:

              Also, what “dumb” conspiracy theories have I had?

              I know a lot of you think everything is a coincidence around here…but sometimes there are just too many coincidences and the odds are improbable of them continuously happening conveniently during catostrophic events.

  55. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Is “mainstream children” an accepted term?

  56. rek4gehrig says:

    Walk him now!!!

  57. YankeesJunkie says:

    Tigers also will be joining in on the “Beautiful People” game afterwords and Verlander will be the starting pitcher with a full compliment of starters .

    My Prediction:
    Beautiful People:0

  58. bexarama says:

    Phil Hughes sucks, obviously.

  59. phughesisgod says:

    Theres a quick inning. There we go, Hughes. Wanna throw s few more of those quickies today?

  60. JFH says:

    7 pitch inning is very nice.

  61. Troll says:

    So…. I see the first time we faced Porcello this year, he went 7 and we lost 2-0…..

  62. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Michael Kay has no idea what the score is. He is now entering John Sterling’s airspace.

  63. Steve O. says:

    Miguel Cabrera just make an out?

    .:Head Explodes:.

  64. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Is this ump kidding?

  65. theyankeewarrior says:


    We are now entering the pitch-around-Cabrera/IBB Cabrera for the remainder of the game zone.

    Please keep your hands and feet inside the car at all times.

    Thank you.

  66. Not Tank the Frank says:

    This ump is fucking up my universe. I’m like a mushroom cloud layin motherfucker motherfucker.

  67. bexarama says:

    Cards trade for Pedro Feliz for some reason. For Carpenter!!!!

    (Okay, it’s a minor league pitcher who they converted from catcher)

  68. YankeesJunkie says:

    Pena should have knocked the shit of Porcello.

  69. theyankeewarrior says:

    For those of you lucky enough to watch the game…

    How do the Yankee at bats look? Have they hit the ball hard at all?

    • Cy Farnsworth says:

      Not really, but good infield defense has taken away a few singles.

      Plus, the strike zone is comically bad which has been helping Porcello so far.

    • Ross in Jersey says:

      Jeter, Cano, and Tex have hit the ball hard but don’t have anything to show for it, obviously.

  70. King of the Troglodytes says:

    Nothing like watching the Yanks look pathetic against a pitcher with an ERA of 5.50

  71. Kilgore Trout says:

    Per Gameday, this ump is ready to retire.

    • Cy Farnsworth says:

      Normally when an ump is bad, it’s because he falls in love with a certain part of the plate (too many low strikes or something.)

      This guy seems to be picking randomly.

    • YankeesJunkie says:

      It would be nice to the umpire union go on strike and clean house.

  72. Cy Farnsworth says:

    You Texy Thing

  73. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    Just give him the Gold Glove!

  74. Mike HC says:

    third juggle is a charm

    sick play

  75. swisher's fauxhawk says:

    Holy crap. That was wayyyyyyyyyyyy too close.

  76. Apollo22237 says:

    Kay is going to have a heart attack.

    • Mike HC says:

      hahahaha. Kay was actually damn good with both of those calls.

      Gotta give credit to Kay too when he steps it up.

  77. Mike HC says:

    Holy Shit!!! What an inning.

    I thought that was going to be bad. Like watching a car accident as it happens.

  78. YankeesJunkie says:

    Web Gem Party

  79. Adam says:

    Wow, two in a row!

  80. bexarama says:

    That play just now confused the crap outta me. But yay, Gardy/Grandy!

  81. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    Holy crap The Grandy Man can!

  82. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Nice play and all, but damn, Grandy and Gardner need to get together and talk some shit over. They can’t make a catch lately without having a conversation afterwards.

  83. I enjoy good defense. I’m glad we care about it.

  84. Mushy Carl says:

    eventful inning.

  85. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    You always back off for the CF!

    • Mike HC says:

      No way could Gardner could have expected Granderson to get to that. Both had to go all out for that ball. Luckily it ended well.

      • YanksFan in MA says:

        Saw my leftfielder (and coincidentally, my boss) get KTFO at my softball game Monday. Collided into the shortstop’s leg with the side of his head in the middle of a dive going after a blooper between the two. The sound was unbelievable. I thought he was dead. Completely unconscious for about 2 minutes and he is still having some post concussion symptoms. Bottom line, let’s just be thankful both are still playing.

  86. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Strike 4

    • Cy Farnsworth says:

      And there’s 5.

      After all the tension during last night’s game, I wouldn’t be surprised to see either Girardi or Leyland blow their top at this home plate ump.

      • Ross in Jersey says:

        I don’t think it’ll take much for Leyland to lose it. He’s been on edge.

      • Not Tank the Frank says:

        I would have been tossed after Kearns got rung up on that garbage with the way Phil has been squeezed.

        But then again I’m a total asshole.

  87. C says:

    Those 0-2 and 1-2 pitches would have been strikes against us…

  88. JohnnyC says:

    Chad Fairchild – beer league umpire.

  89. Ross in Jersey says:

    I swear Jeter gets out of bed with an 0-2 count these days.

  90. Mike HC says:

    Those defensive plays got everyone back into the game. Fans and hitters.

    /narrative’d, but also maybe true

  91. theyankeewarrior says:

    Here we go Swishhhh

  92. Nate says:

    After the 30-some-odd pitches he threw in the first, the box score indicates Phil seems to have collected himself. How does he look out there?

  93. swisher's fauxhawk says:


  94. rek4gehrig says:

    Here we go, here we go

  95. bexarama says:

    I wonder what Nick Swisher and Miggy Cabrera would talk about.

  96. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Just no DP Jorge. No DP.

  97. Mike HC says:

    Is anything more satisfying than watching Granderson get hot? Seeing what he can finally do at the plate has been a long awaited highlight to the season.

  98. j_Yankees says:

    The Grandy Man Can.

  99. Chris says:

    Can someone please explain what happened? I thought the game was over already. Hughes apparently sucks and the Yankees can’t hit Porcello, so I’m confused about why they’re still playing and allowed the Yankees to score.

  100. j_Yankees says:

    Cano makes that cross the body throw look too easy. its not that easy.

  101. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Phil Hughes sucks.

  102. YankeesJunkie says:

    A tale of two Phils

    • Chris says:

      Exactly. One that made one mediocre pitch to one of the best hitters in baseball, and one that has made mediocre or better pitches to everyone else.

  103. theyankeewarrior says:

    Time for Phil to start mowing his way through this anemic lineup.

    /Sans Cabrera

  104. Tom Zig says:

    death, taxes, and AJax striking out.

  105. Andrew says:

    Waaah no strikeout pitch

  106. Ross in Jersey says:

    This is the Phil Hughes we all know and love. Painting the corners, getting swings and misses, breaking bats. Good stuff.

    • Not Tank the Frank says:

      And he seems to have found his curveball. A lot more movement in it recently and he would’ve been able to throw more strikes with it if it had, you know, been called correctly as a strike.

      • Ross in Jersey says:

        I think that was the cutter on those close pitches, but his curveball does seem to have more bite.

      • AndrewYF says:

        But we were told that Hughes should stop throwing his curveball forever because it hasn’t been good for him so far.

  107. theyankeewarrior says:

    Austin Jackson strikes out swinging. 129 Out.

  108. Tom Zig says:

    hah i know this is meaningless but B-Ref has Austin Jackson as striking out on average 189 times per 162 games.

  109. YankeesJunkie says:

    Surprised that Porcello has a sub 5 K/9.

  110. JFH says:

    they saw 8 pitches that inning.

  111. vin says:

    Just realized…

    Miguel Cabrera is the Gary Sanchez of the big leagues.

  112. Not Tank the Frank says:

    You see! He’s not a machi! HE’S A MAN!!!

  113. Not Tank the Frank says:

    MVP (3rd place)!

  114. theyankeewarrior says:

    iiiiiiiit is a ribbi doubble for Robbie Cano!!!!!

  115. YankeesJunkie says:

    Cano may not win the MVP, but his stock as a hitter as sky rocketed this year and that long term deal is looking pretty awesome.

  116. Troll says:

    3-0 greenlights are very nice today

  117. Mushy Carl says:

    Man Posada is slow

  118. Nom Chompsky says:

    Release the floodgates.

  119. theyankeewarrior says:

    In a tight playoff game, this is where Thames pinch hits and Kearns takes over in LF.

    Or is that more like bottom 7?

  120. Captain Bawls says:

    I had a nightmare last night that I was reading on RAB that we traded Swisher for Betemit and David Adams. Yeah, no idea.

  121. You can’t get Curtis Granderson out. You just can’t.

    • bexarama says:

      I know he’s been on a hot streak but I was genuinely surprised he had an above-league-average OPS and OPS+. The way people have been talking about him, I thought he was at like 88 OPS+.

    • theyankeewarrior says:

      I just hope this resurgence sticks this time. He has “broken out” a few times this season, but always seems to fall back after a hot week.

      This time looks and feels like he’s finally over the hump. He also seems to have gained a shit-ton of confidence since he began his mini-tear.

  122. YankeesJunkie says:

    Just checking out Granderson’s stats and with this little hot streak of his numbers are virtually identical to 2009.

  123. Jose the Satirist says:

    This is the year of the grandslam right?

  124. Mushy Carl says:


  125. Apollo22237 says:

    That was like the same exact place Kearns hit it yesterday.

  126. bexarama says:

    I reaaaaally like this Austin Kearns pickup.

  127. Klemy says:

    Kearns2010 = Hinske2009

  128. JFH says:

    That double by Kearns is nice and all, but a sac fly would have been better.

  129. Tom Zig says:

    Kearns just drop shot Robbie Weinhardt in MW2

  130. Ross in Jersey says:

    I would personally like to thank Peter Abraham, who said that Ryan Kalish was better than Berkman/Kearns because he had a better triple slash after 50 at-bats. I’m sure Austin read those comments and decided to put an end to that shit right away.

  131. Apollo22237 says:

    Awwww, now we don’t have bases loaded.

  132. AndrewYF says:

    So are they going to take out Hughes to try and keep his innings under control?

    • Klemy says:

      I would’ve guessed that, but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.

    • phughesisgod says:

      I’d hit someone if they do. Hes at 90 pitches and on a roll. Who the hell cares about innings limits. Let him go 7 and then go to the ‘pen.

  133. Moose Corner says:

    Pitch around Gardenr to get to Jeter, who would have thunk it!!!

  134. Anthony says:

    This is a situation where Gardner should be stealing.

  135. Mister Delaware says:

    Games with Paulie in the booth are much better than games without him.

  136. Not Tank the Frank says:

    Nothing would make my day any better than seeing Jeter with an extra base hit.

  137. Mushy Carl says:

    Kenny and Cone on the west coast trips were the best imo.

  138. aRX says:

    Holy shit Jeter

  139. Mister Delaware says:

    There we go.

  140. Klemy says:

    Got a little Captain in you?

  141. Cy Pettitte says:

    One of Jeter’s best AB’s in a while

  142. bexarama says:

    You know who gets that ball? Curtis Granderson.

    (I kid, Austin Jackson is a VERY good CF from what I’ve seen. But I couldn’t resist.)

    • Chip says:

      It’s true and it’s not because he’s bad, it’s because he went to the Little League School of Playing Way Too Shallow in Center presented by Justin Upton

  143. Joe says:

    I think it’s safe to say Hughes’ day is over.

  144. claybeez says:

    See, the offensive malaise was all A-Rod’s fault.


  145. YankeesJunkie says:

    Great at bat by Jeter.

    Only five more runs til this game becomes Gaudin proof.

  146. C says:

    Gotta love the RISP market correction

  147. JFH says:

    will the tigers start throwing at us now?

  148. Jose the Satirist says:

    At this point they are just adding runs on to boost their Pythagorean W-L.

  149. Nate says:

    ESPN needs some education about periods.

    B Gardner walked. C Granderson scored, A Kearns to third on passed ball. Makes so much more sense than
    B Gardner walked, C Granderson scored, A Kearns to third on passed ball.

  150. larryf says:

    Nunez time?

  151. Anthony says:

    On gameday it just said
    “pitching change: Eddie Bonine replaces Robbie Weindhard. pitching change: Eddie Bonine replaces Eddie Bonine. pitching change Eddie Bonine replaces Eddie Bonine.” So unless the Tigers have alot of players named Eddie Bonine I can’t see how thats happening.

  152. Adam says:

    1. Cashman is a ninja. Always has been, always will be. Kearns and Wood already paying dividends, Berkman will as well.

    2. Am looking forward to reviewing all of the nails in the captain’s coffin at the end of the season when everything evens out and he puts up his usual solid numbers.

    • Not Tank the Frank says:

      Don’t be so confident on # 2. He’s got a ways to go to get there. One shot to the wall doesn’t change it. Sorry to be a negative Nancy.

      • Adam says:

        Definitely one shot won’t get him there…I do think, however, he will end the year with some of the better stats for AL shortstops.

    • Chris says:

      Jeter’s full season numbers are going to be done this year because he’s struggled for so long this season. I expect him to bounce back next year, though.

  153. Mushy Carl says:


  154. Mister Delaware says:


  155. aRX says:

    Bombs away

  156. YankeesJunkie says:

    Chances that Hughes and/or Sabathia wins 20 games this year. Obviously, a lot is based on the offense, but if Sabathia keeps up his streak of quality starts there is no reason not to think he can’t pick up 4 more wins in the last 6.5 weeks. Hughes with the innings limit may lose a couple starts here and there and that may keep him at 18 or 19.

    • bexarama says:

      Unless he totally collapses CC will likely win 20. Hughes has a chance.


      • YankeesJunkie says:

        Hughes has at least five more starts, then maybe then pen. He would need to win all his starts or get a couple bullpen wins too.

      • CBean says:

        I’m still a little bitter that he went down right after they started talking about us having 3 pitchers with a shot at 20 wins. Somebody jinxed us and I demand satisfaction.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      CC will, Phil won’t.

    • sangreal says:

      Too bad Pettitte got hurt. Would have liked to have seen him hit 20

      • bexarama says:

        21 would’ve gotten him to 250 in his career. I joked about him getting there before the season, but then he pitched so well.

        But then HIS STUPID GROIN.

    • phughesisgod says:

      He’s at 140.2 right now. His innings limit is between 170-180(probably around 175). He could potentially have 6 more starts 35 more innings at 6 per start puts him at 172 for 6 starters. That puts him at 172.2. His turn comes up 7 or 8 more times. So he’ll miss 1 or 2 more starts depending on how he does in his starts. He’s at 15 wins right now(if Mitre holds on). He goes 5-1 in these 6 starts, hes at 20 wins. I’d say its very possible he can get 20 wins.

  157. Not Tank the Frank says:

    MVP (2nd place)!!!!

  158. Cy Pettitte says:

    Leyland’s about to lose his shit

  159. Troll says:

    Anything Jete can do, Cano can do longer.

  160. Pat D says:

    Cano helping out the fantasy team!

  161. Apollo22237 says:

    Save your hits for tomorrow.

  162. This is bordering on cruelty to animals. I’m calling the ASPCA.

  163. Jose the Satirist says:

    Cano heard the discussion about him and Miggy.

  164. Nom Chompsky says:

    Floodgates released.

  165. Mushy Carl says:

    Should put Nunez in the game right? Right?

  166. YanksFan in MA says:

    Mitre to close it out? I don’t want to see anyone else besides maybe worthless Gaudin.

  167. Chip says:

    I’d love to get a look at Nunez at short here, wouldn’t be surprised to see it at some point

  168. Not Tank the Frank says:

    The Eduardo Nunez era has begun.

  169. pat says:

    jeets watches the heir….

  170. Mushy Carl says:

    A lot of range at Short and Third today :)

  171. Rose says:

    Everybody should go here (well the link inside this link) and sign up for the class action lawsuit being filed against Obama, Pelosi, and the rest of that administration constantly breaking the law.

    We the people!

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      Who’s this Obama guy? Did he take PED’s lately?

    • I’d sign your petition, Rose, but I was born in Ohio, so I must not be a citizen.

      • Rose says:

        You’re in luck! In 1953 they finally admitted Ohio to be a state!

        • Rose, Britain ceded Ohio to the Americans with the Treaty of Paris in 1783.

          Follow me closely, now:

          Every single person born in Ohio since the Treaty of Paris who was not an American Indian or a slave thus has been a citizen of the United States. Every single one of them.

          You’re embarrassing yourself.

          • Rose says:

            How is it embarrassing myself? It’s a legitimate argument. How many other people knew that Ohio wasn’t actually a state until 1953?

            I’m willing to bet less than 5% of the people on here. Yourself included.

            • A.) Nobody new that because nobody cared, because it’s not important, because all those Ohioans born before 1953 were citizens anyway.
              B.) You’re incorrect. In 1953, Congress retroactively granted Statehood to Ohio from 1803, so no, Ohio was a state before 1953. That’s what the word “retroactively” means.

              • Rose says:

                Ohhh so all those people who didn’t make it until 1953 for when all that happened…knew via Doc and Marty and their DeLorean that their territory would soon become a “state”. I see. It all makes sense now.

                • They were treated as citizens of Ohio because the government didn’t start issuing formal proclamations of statehood until 1812 with Louisiana. Thus, they were de facto citizens of Ohio. Which is why the resolution proclaiming statehood that was passed in 1953 was declared retroactively to apply to 1803, because that’s when they were admitted to the union as a state in all ways except for the formal proclamation.

                  None of this matters to the issue at hand, though. While their status as citizens of a state of Ohio is murky, their status as citizens of the United States is not.

                  You literally have no clue whatsoever about Constitutional law. None.

                  • Jose the Satirist says:

                    But ask yourself: How is the Federal Reserve still around? They are an illegal entity that has no Constitutional basis. They will continue to suck the life out of America as it moves to Corporatism and destroys all human rights.

                    You what is in the Federal Reserve Bank? Nothing. No gold. Same with Fort Knox. The government will continue printing out money while illegally collecting income tax. Completely unconstitutional.


          • Steve O. says:

            Rose was serious about Ohio becoming a state in the 1950′s?

    • Ross in Jersey says:

      Please do not shit up the gameday threads with this fucking garbage. I come here to talk baseball, not listen to wingnut conservatives cry about the government.

      • Rose says:

        Sorry Ross.

        By the way, you should run for office. Your high demands for total control would fit in perfectly with what they have going on up there…

        • V says:

          Wow. You really are a fucking imbecile.

          • Steve O. says:

            Try to avoid personal attacks.

          • Rose says:

            Explain. Is it because you don’t understand anything about politics?

            Usually people who get as frustrated and angry as you, throw insults as a result of not being able to comprehend what’s going on.

            • Chip says:

              So you’re attacking somebody about not understanding politics while throwing around a petition claiming that our president isn’t a citizen despite having a birth certificate? Wow……that’s something right there

              • Rose says:

                No. That’s exactly what I’m NOT doing.

                You, on the other hand, are chiming in as a part of the peanut gallery…throwing in your two cents without actually reading anything written at all apparently. Congratulations. Mission Accomplished. LOL

                • Zack says:

                  You accomplished your mission too.

                  You posted it in the off topic thread, nobody responded. You can’t handle that so you have to post it in a game thread to get a reaction from people.

                  • Jose the Satirist says:

                    I thought this was obvious to everyone. He has to get a response. So he posted it in two places after the first one didn’t work.

                  • Rose says:

                    More people look at the game thread than the off-topic thread. It’s a fact. If I’m a salesman and I knock on the back door and nobody answers…you would probably then go to the front (if you already didn’t do so already)

                    • Zack says:

                      Exactly, you need the attention and you didn’t get any in the OT, so you had to re-post it here to get the reaction you desired.

                    • Pat D says:

                      What salesman would go to the back door first?

                      Your analogy doesn’t make sense, because there’s clearly a topic here and clearly an off topic thread where this belongs.

                    • Rose says:

                      I didn’t. The Yankees were up 9-2 (at the time) and I had just finished up a conversation about it during lunch so I threw it out there. No agenda. Don’t really care what you do to be honest. You obviously have no opinions of your own and rely on ganging up on people without any substance with your arguments though. That’s a neat technique.

                • Chip says:

                  Sorry, all of your conservative wingnut complaining seems to meld together. You’re attacking him on his calling you out for your crazy wingnut-ness. Seriously, I’m a conservative and I’m sick of people like you making the rest of us look like morons. Stop

                  • Rose says:

                    Personally, I don’t care what you’re sick of to be honest. Seems like a personal problem to me.

                    Secondly, I’m not a Republican. They’re just as corrupt as the Democrats.

                    Thirdly, get me a coffee. I’m thirsty.

                    • bexarama says:

                      Rose, honestly, I think I can speak for everyone when I say we are all tired of your political stuff. Not political stuff in general. Just yours.

                      (Sorry if this is a personal attack, and the RAB guys can feel free to warn me if it is.)

                    • Rose says:

                      Ohhh. I see. So any propaganda that is universally misunderstood is fair game…but anything with substance and concern we have to turn the other cheek or stick our head in the sand. I get it.

                      Sorry, but I don’t necessarily think that’s fair either.

          • Anthony says:

            Fight!! Fight!!!! Fight!!!

        • Ross in Jersey says:

          So not only do you have no clue what is and is not against the Constitution, you don’t understand the RAB commenting guidelines either.


          • Rose says:

            Do you know how many off topic conversations spiral out of control during game threads?

            Just because you don’t understand ONE out of the many that occur…doesn’t mean that’s the only one that’s breaking the guidelines.

            As for the Constitution. I know that you, and most people like you, don’t like it and want it destroyed. THAT, I do know.

            • Chip says:

              Off topic? Yes

              Inflammatory, baseless accusations about the man who has the most difficult job in the world? Not nearly as common….or tolerated

              • Adam says:

                Guys…I just heard this shocking fact too…Robbie Cano also doesn’t have an American birth certificate!

              • Rose says:

                Where do I say anything about Obama’s citizenship?

                I’m confused.

                Maybe if you guys actually could comprehend what you’re “reading” you would make more sense.

                But if you don’t want to…have at it. Throw jokes around to one another about things that don’t mean anything. What do i care?

            • Ross in Jersey says:

              Do you know how many off topic conversations spiral out of control during game threads?

              None? Unless you consider occasionally talking about the minor league Yankees as “off topic”

              As for the Constitution. I know that you, and most people like you, don’t like it and want it destroyed. THAT, I do know.

              And I know that most people like you are unintelligent bigots who use baseless arguments and empty one liners like “Taking back America” to hide their racism and hatred. Why don’t you go back to Fox News, where you can all talk about how America is turning to a Socialist state while you simultaneously collect unemployment and food stamps.

              • Rose says:

                And I know that most people like you are unintelligent bigots who use baseless arguments and empty one liners like “Taking back America” to hide their racism and hatred. Why don’t you go back to Fox News, where you can all talk about how America is turning to a Socialist state while you simultaneously collect unemployment and food stamps.

                Oh you KNOW this huh? HAHA. Unbelievable.

                You have nothing to back your argument up so you conjure up nonsense in your head and throw it out there hoping it sticks.

                Sorry. I don’t see how the color of anybody’s skin has literally ANYTHING to do with…well…ANYTHING.

                Sorry to disappoint you.

            • As for the Constitution. I know that you, and most people like you, don’t like it and want it destroyed. THAT, I do know.

              What’s funny is, the party of Rose’s allegiance is currently launching hackneyed Constitutional challenges to overturn/subvert the 1st and 14th amendments.

    • To this thread: Please note the new addition, No. 12, in the commenting guidelines.

      Thank you for your compliance. We’re obviously a fascist regime here at RAB, and we have to do everything we can to take away your rights.

  172. Mushy Carl says:

    Mitre sucks

  173. bexarama says:

    Mitre, c’mon, dude. >:(

  174. Adam says:

    Apparently Mitre got his hands into Gaudin’s cookie box before entering the game.

  175. Mushy Carl says:

    Ace Nova make it happen. Bye Bye Mitre/Gaudin

  176. Apollo22237 says:

    Bring in Rivera NOW!

  177. Cy Pettitte says:

    11-3 and Wood has to get warm, what a joke

  178. Anthony says:

    Mitre is gave up a home run 2 someone who doesn’t know how 2 spell his name.

  179. Adam says:

    Susan Waldmyn factoid of the day…She just realized when thinking about the Derek Lee trade that the Cubs will stop hearing questions about curses when they win the World Series. Truly insightful.

  180. phughesisgod says:

    Ugh, finally, this inning is over.

  181. CNight_UP says:

    GET NE PORCELLO’S STATS….(alams diet coke)


  182. Frank the Yank says:

    Cabrera is out of the game. Now I can relax.

  183. Zack says:

    So is someone going to give me Pena’s triple slash for his last 7 ABs and tell me he’s playing better again?

    I got it for his last 4: .000/.000/.000

  184. Mushy Carl says:

    Gotta wait to see Nunie bat

  185. Mushy Carl says:

    Hey my name is Mitre. I suck.

  186. Klemy says:

    Okay, I’ve had enough of Mitre for the day.

  187. rek4gehrig says:


  188. Total Dominication says:

    Pathetic Mitre.

  189. jackson says:

    Mitre has 6 outs and 6 runs to play with. I’m excited to see what comes first.

  190. Yank the Frank says:

    I can no longer relax.

  191. Anthony says:

    Just take him out already. I thing Nick Swisher could pitch better

  192. Mushy Carl says:


  193. Klemy says:


  194. 28 in '10 says:

    Not to be mean-spirited, but I wonder what CJ Henry feels seeing Eduardo Nunez come up (started in GCL at the same time) for his first at-bat, with Austin Jackson (also in GCL same time) playing in center.

    Has to hurt.

  195. Total Dominication says:


    /irrational excitement

  196. Total Dominication says:

    Nunez is feared!

  197. Troll says:

    Valverde?? Is he in to hit sombody, then shit on the mound?

  198. Anthony says:

    See the Tigers brought in the best bullpen pitcher they have to face Nunez because he’s so great.

  199. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Valverde is in? Are the Tigers fucking retarded or something? Do they think the score is reversed or do they think that they are in it?

    Great just murder my only closer. Fuckers.

  200. Klemy says:

    Well. That was anticlimactic.

  201. Total Dominication says:

    Triple for the cycle!

  202. Everyone, thank Rose for the new guideline. No political talk, period.

    • JohnnyC says:

      Thanks, Joe.

    • Apollo22237 says:

      It is a historical day here at RAB.

    • Steve O. says:

      Can we still make fun of Sarah Palin?

      • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

        If you can come up with a suitable liberal leader to make fun of, I would guess.

        But you act like Palin is considered universally insane or something.

        She’s not. She was a candidate for Vice President and is a popular conservative politician. Not a fringe lunatic.

    • Pat D says:

      In all seriousness then, because I sometimes do this, nothing referring to politics or politicians in any way, even as an obvious joke, is not allowed now?

      • Sorry, I don’t think we can allow that. I like ya, dude, but we have to enforce the rules universally.

        • Pat D says:

          No, that’s fine, I just want to make absolutely sure so I stop myself from doing it the next time it pops into mind.

          Thanks for replying!

          • Like I said below, Rose’s batshit insanity has fucked it up for the rest of us.

            • Rose says:

              Haha. I love how the fact that people can’t control their reactions to certain things is MY fault LOL

              • This is actually a good point. We should O:S comments like the above more often.

              • Yes, you’re the victim. You’re always the victim, Rose. It’s never your fault.

                We’re infringing on your Constitutional right to say ignorant shit and not get called out for it. I’m sure that right is in the Constitution somewhere, I’ll be damned if some governmental propaganda machine is going to tell me otherwise.

                • Rose says:

                  I’ve taken responsibility for things in the past. Ironically, I can’t remember the last time anybody else has.

                  And by “ignorant shit” you mean “things that I don’t agree with and anything I don’t agree with I must overreact to and add curse words in front of”

                  • No, I mean ignorant shit. Your petition is something I don’t agree with, but I didn’t give you grief for it. Your crazy idea that Taft isn’t a citizen, that’s ignorant shit, and I gave you hell for it, because it’s moronically stupid.

                    • Rose says:

                      You’re literally the only one who commented on Taft. Everybody else overreacted and threw insults around about everything that WASN’T Taft. Most of which didn’t even read what was going on and thought the conversation was about Obama’s citizenship for whatever reason.

              • Pat D says:

                It must be fun to be you.

                Deny it all you want, but you knew you’d illicit strong reactions and that’s what you wanted. So this is your fault. This isn’t your site. If Joe, Mike and Ben want to change the rules when it’s their site, well, gee, that’s their right, isn’t it?

                Take responsibility much?

                • Rose says:

                  See, now how does this make sense?

                  Some of you are claiming that I had an agenda that because nobody responded to the same exact message in the off-topic forum – I HAD to post it on here to get a reaction.

                  Then the other half of you are saying that I knew this was going to get a reaction. Yet, the one I previously posted literally didn’t get any according to the other half.

                  Am I getting all this right?

                  • Pat D says:

                    Logic fail.

                    Not many people use the OT thread, particularly during a game. Rather than wait for the game to end and get replies in due time, you came over here and linked to the OT thread.

                    Why would you do that unless you WANTED a reaction of some kind? Either way you’re saying please reply to me one way or the other. Does that make sense?

                    • Rose says:

                      That link was posted well before the game. Thus making your point moot and useless.

                    • Pat D says:

                      Fair enough. I didn’t look at the time stamp of your first post.

                      But you still refuse to answer the question of why you linked to that topic in this thread. My belief is that you did it because you wanted attention, you wanted a response no matter what it was, that you basically baited people. Mission accomplished.

                      Look, I don’t want to discuss this anymore. I don’t care for your opinions, you probably don’t care for mine. So I’m walking away.

    • Stop trying to cover up the fact that you’re not really a citizen, Pawlikowski. That’s not an American name and we all know it.

    • Rose, fucking it up for everyone else, as usual.

      • Steve O. says:

        As long as Sarah Palin can still be mocked, this no politics rule isn’t that terrible.

        • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag says:

          That’s bullshit. Don’t mock conservative political leaders unless you’ll mock liberal ones too.

          The rule is no politics. Not only make of fun of a conservative Alaskan former Governor, and otherwise no politics.

    • Adam says:

      Is it political to say that Valvere should be water boarded?

    • Marcus says:

      You are wise RABbi, thank you for that.

    • 12. There will be no talk of politics in any Open Thread or Game Thread on River Ave. Blues. If you want to talk politics, do so in the Off-Topic thread. Thank commenter Rose for this. He had to bring the political talk into a thread about a baseball game.

      I hereby christen Commenting Guideline 12 “The Rose Law”.

      • Steve O. says:


      • Total Dominication says:


      • Rose says:

        I guess I’ll take the honor…but I don’t see how everybody not being able to control their reactions is MY fault?

        Oh well. Long live the Rose Law!

        There will be a coronation here tomorrow at noon. Chip will be placing the crown on my head.

        • but I don’t see how everybody not being able to control their reactions is MY fault?

          Because you always say ignorant, inflammatory bullshit, Rose. That’s why you inflame the board, because your language is inflammatory.

          • Rose says:

            How is my language “inflammatory”? Because YOU or somebody else doesn’t agree with it?

            I’m not calling anybody out, swearing, being racist, or anything. Although, above, I was called a racist, an imbecile, etc. when THAT is actually against the guidelines and always has been.

            • It’s not inflammatory because we don’t agree with it, it’s inflammatory because you’re spouting falsehoods and claiming they’re factually accurate.

              People called you an imbecile, Rose, because you genuinely think that Taft was an illegitimate president, a secret illegal, and that Congress passed a retroactive act of statehood to try to cover it up.

              That’s an imbecilic position to take. Only a fool would genuinely believe in the conspiracy theories you do.

              • Rose says:

                No, it isn’t. I was bringing up a valid point based on the Constitution. NOT the Treaty of Paris. No where in the original Constitution does it state that Taft would be eligible for Presidency. That’s pretty much it.

                • Your point is not valid at all. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that Taft can’t be President. All of this is batshit insane, Rose. You’re wrong. Let it go.

                  Ohio was a state in 1803. Taft was a legal citizen of Ohio at birth. Even if Ohio somehow wasn’t a state, Taft would still be a legal citizen of the United States regardless, because Ohio the non-state territory is still part of the legal United States and all non-immigrant non-slaves and non-Indians born in US territories get U.S. citizenship at birth.

                  None of your assertions have any merit whatsoever. It’s ridiculous that you’d even think that it’s a serious topic of debate.

                  Taft was a citizen of Ohio and the United States and his presidency is legitimate. Your ability to read Constitutional law is horribly flawed, and you should never base any of your arguments about anything on the unconstitutionality of any topic, because you don’t understand the U.S. Constitution.

                  Stop. Don’t post it here or anywhere, it’s fucking ridiculous.

    • Klemy says:

      You conservative!

      I kid, I kid!

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      Good. Politics is obnoxious. More baseball, less politics.

  203. bexarama says:

    Didn’t O’Neill get thrown out trying to go to third on a double in a couple of really close playoff games? 1997 and the 2001 Series, I wanna say?

  204. Mushy Carl says:

    Valverde doesn’t care what the score is. He does his squat dance.

  205. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Why ask Flash if he has a cycle?

  206. theyankeewarrior says:

    Valverde? Isn’t this guy dealing with an arm problem? Are they really out of pitchers?

  207. Crime Dog says:

    Mitres gonna have a save. Proving yet again what a great stat the save is

  208. Ross in Jersey says:

    Guys please sign my online petition to say that Sergio Mitre is an affront to America and abuses his power to make us feel nervous about 6 run leads.

    With your help we can all bring this national crisis to an end.

    • Zanath says:

      As nerve wracking as his performance was, I gotta hand it to Joe for leaving him in. It would have been easy to pull a Joe Torre and bring, say, Robertson in. But I think it is fair to say that the Tigers don’t have the firepower (especially when they took Cabrera out of the game) to score 11 runs. And at the end of the day, we only had to use one other pitcher after Hughes. I was at work, so I could only watch GameDay, but it seems like Hughes really rebounded after a shaky first couple of innings.

      • JohnnyC says:

        It was night and day after the 3rd inning. Hughes needed over 50 pitches to get thru the first 3, then pretty much zipped thru the 6th. I think it was better location.

        • Zanath says:

          I think it’s safe to say he would have been out there again in the 7th if it weren’t for that blasted innings limit…and the fact that that bottom of the 6th was so long.

  209. Total Dominication says:

    Great offensive win streak!

  210. bexarama says:

    Jersey Johnny throws a shitfit because we didn’t get swept.

  211. Adam says:

    Mitre, now tied for third on team in saves!

  212. Troll says:

    (sigh) Back into the cave… I’ll be back though, plenty of games left, and it’s a game of failure!

  213. Pat D says:

    I’m glad that the end of the game was uneventful. I got stuck in a traffic jam further up the thread.

  214. theyankeewarrior says:

    Back to .500 in August!

    Here’s to dethroning King Felix!

    (Orders a round of Crown shots for all RAB game chatters)

  215. bonestock94 says:

    Great game. Why does meat-tray get a save?

  216. Zanath says:

    Also, really liking the Austin Kearns pick up…he’s been great. That’s a couple of big hits in two days for him, and his at bat’s in general have been very strong.

  217. rek4gehrig says:

    Great game. Now, we root for the As tonight

  218. ShuutoHeat (GGBG > Crawford) says:

    Simply beautiful and it is even more amazing when I remind myself that this ISN’T the full “A” lineup.

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