Aug
22

Game 124: CC at home for the series win

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(AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

No one has taken to pitching at the new Yankee Stadium quite like CC Sabathia. In his two seasons in pinstripes, the Big Man is 16-2 in the Bronx with a 2.92 ERA. In 12 starts this year, he’s 9-0 in the Bronx, and he hasn’t lost a game at home since he faced the Mariners on July 2, 2009. As the Yanks close out a home stand and try to win the series against the Mariners, Sabathia will get the ball.

It’s tough to overstate Sabathia’s importance to the Yanks this year. As Javier Vazquez and AJ Burnett have struggled to find anything approaching an effective consistency, Sabathia has been the stalwart in the rotation. He’s 16-5 with a 3.12 ERA. Although his K rate is down to 7.1 per 9 IP, he doesn’t allow many long balls, and he gives the Yanks length, averaging seven innings per state.

This year, Sabathia has dominated the Mariners. He’s 2-0 with a 1.20 ERA in 15 innings against Seattle. The team has hit just .208/.250/.245 against him, and Sabathia will try to use his lefty-lefty advantage to neutralize Ichiro Suzuki and Russell Branyan today. Branyan, who has owned the Yanks this year, is just 1 for 10 against CC with no home runs and six strike outs.

Opposing Sabathia will Luke French. The 24-year-old lefty is making his sixth start of the year. In eight appearances, he is 2-3 with a 4.02 ERA. He doesn’t strike anyone out — just 3.8 per 9 IP — but has allowed only two home runs in 40.1 innings this year. In his one appearance against the Yanks, he allowed a run in three innings of mop-up work on July 9. The lone scored on a Mark Teixeira home run.

Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Marcus Thames DH
Jorge Posada C
Austin Kearns LF
Brett Gardner CF
Eduardo Nunez 3B

Carsten Charles Sabathia P

Weather permitting, the game starts at 1:05 p.m. and will be on the YES Network.

Update (3:18 p.m.): The Yankees have announced that the game will resume at approximately 3:30 p.m. No word yet on who will take the mound for the Yanks in the top of the 7th. CC Sabathia and the Bombers are leading the Mariners 5-0 after 5.5 innings.

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539 Comments»

  1. XP says:

    4.5.6.8.8.9.9.9.9.11.12

    Today will be a 7 or 10 run win.

  2. Adam says:

    I have a feeling we may see lots of swings early in the count from the M’s today..

  3. Fred Lemond says:

    Posada grilling Figgins lol

  4. Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

    I hate Figgins.

  5. Adam says:

    Man, that really was an incredible shot to right yesterday.

  6. Hummingbird S. says:

    I feel a king Felix type of game for CC today.

  7. Poopy Pants says:

    Why is Joe Maddon pitching right now?

  8. Chris0313 says:

    So much for being a leadoff hitter, huh Derek?

  9. Fred Lemond says:

    way to kill the damn rally Swish.

  10. Poopy Pants says:

    Nice slide by Jeter. Wow.

  11. boogie down says:

    Why was Jeter limping off the field?

  12. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    No 3 pitch inning for Frenchy!

  13. Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

    Swish doing his best Jeter impression.

  14. Hughesus Christo says:

    “Firing up the Dopplers”

    Michael Kay, ladies and gentlemen.

  15. Angelo says:

    This has to be the slowest game thread I’ve seen in a while.

    Where is everyone?

  16. Johnny O says:

    this just has the makings of a boring game. hopefully the yanks are more alive than the RAB posters

  17. Chris0313 says:

    Kotchman is terrible.

  18. pat says:

    That slider was aaaaawesome.

  19. Angelo says:

    Where my trolls at?! Entertain me.

  20. Reggie C. says:

    Too bad. Posada was late on that one.

  21. Reggie C. says:

    Time for a big inning! Lets get’em now!

  22. Johnny O says:

    this seems like a guy gardner could hit a HR off of

  23. Johnny O says:

    or walk

  24. Hummingbird S. says:

    comon Nunez!

  25. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    So what is Nunez’s home run call?

    He’s gonna need one =D

  26. mbonzo says:

    Theres some grit!

  27. pat says:

    less go uardooooooooo

  28. Angelo says:

    strong hack by Nunez.

  29. Hummingbird S. says:

    should have crushed that 1-1 pitch

  30. Johnny O says:

    over/under on pitchers jeter sees today: 6.5

  31. Johnny O says:

    pitches, not pitchers

  32. Nintendo vs Sega says:

    Another RISP fail for Jeter.

  33. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Michael Kay asking Kim Jones about “meeting a mate” is going in a very creepy direction

  34. Pat D says:

    How dare Teix make such a stupid play?!?

  35. Reggie C. says:

    Which happens first today: CC gets to 10 Ks or 7 innings?

  36. Johnny O says:

    Teixeira’s UZR just went to -8000

  37. Carlosologist says:

    CC is perfect through three! GET THE CELEBRATION STARTED!

    /idiot’d

  38. Hummingbird S. says:

    I liked Swisher better when he would work the count.

  39. MJ says:

    Isn’t it kind of sad Sabathia is stated as “giving the team length”, when he only goes 7 innings?

    I have to ask. Does anyone know of a team that does not follow the magic 100 pitch count? It may be the worst part of baseball in my eyes and hopefully one day its gone. Like we can all assume every players physique, energy, and durability just deteriorates magically at 100 pitches. All athletes are the same in managers eyes, I guess.

    • Angelo says:

      I kind of get what you’re saying, but it’s not that simple, I’m sure. And today’s game is different. You have to protect pitchers, to prevent chance of injury, which could afffect their career long term.

      You don’t want to overwork pitchers either. Niether is necessarily the correct answer. 100 pitchers an outing or no pitch count at all. Both choices are not the best or brightest.

    • Cy Farnsworth says:

      Girardi rarely pulls Sabathia after only 100 pitches

    • Johnny O says:

      kind of started with Pedro in 2003, no? he was markedly less effective after the 100 pitch mark, and the media had to explain this to grady little.

      While the days of al leiter throwing 150 pitches are over, it’s not unusual to see a guy throw 110-120 these days. I think the ‘verducci’ effect is more closely watched by organizations with younger pitchers. lower pitch counts will come with lower innings (see Hughes, P. 8/19/10)

    • Chris says:

      The average number of pitches thrown by a starter basically hasn’t changed in the last 20-30 years. The biggest difference is that you don’t have pitchers throwing more than 120 pitches much.

      All athletes are the same in managers eyes, I guess.

      The biggest problem is how do you sort out who can handle a heavy workload without subjecting them to it and seeing if they break down.

  40. Fred Lemond says:

    Man this game is already annoying.

  41. Reggie C. says:

    This game is moving along rather quick.

  42. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Does anyone else get the feeling that the old man in that commercial didn’t win anything, isn’t going to Argentina, and is actually just senile?

  43. King of the Troglodytes says:

    6 baserunners already and nothing to show for it. Looks like it could be one of those games again.

  44. Reggie C. says:

    The velo gun looks like its more tuned than CC’s last start where readings had him throwing 98 … shit , I remember at least one reading had 99.

  45. CS Yankee says:

    Hiop, hip…

  46. Fred Lemond says:

    Swinging at the first pitch approach now?

  47. Jake H says:

    Can we please get a run for CC?

  48. Carlosologist says:

    ..Can we please stop swinging at the first pitch?

  49. cano is the bro says:

    come on guys take a few damn pitches first…

  50. Fred Lemond says:

    My boy Kearnzie

  51. Adam says:

    Wow, Kenny with quite the prediction!

  52. Cy Pettitte says:

    Austin Power, damn that was nice

  53. Carlosologist says:

    Kearnzie!

  54. Jake H says:

    I guess all I had to do was say please

  55. Johan Iz My Brohan says:

    RE-SIGN!

  56. Reggie C. says:

    Austin nailed that junk FB.

  57. Cy Farnsworth says:

    There we go

  58. Angelo says:

    F@$% YEAH! AUSTIN KEARNS!!!

    Teh forth outfielder!!!!

  59. Hummingbird S. says:

    weather looks nasty…

  60. Cy Farnsworth says:

    I wanna see a fast 5th, let’s make this sucker official

  61. Cy Pettitte says:

    CC needs a quick 1-2-3 to make this official

  62. cano is the bro says:

    yay kearns

  63. Reggie C. says:

    Lets get this game moving guys … weather’s not too good for the rest of the day.

  64. CS Yankee says:

    Kearns burns French-ie!

  65. Fred Lemond says:

    Man I wanted a no hitter :(

  66. Reggie C. says:

    Guitierrez can sure motor.

    Nice try Nunez.

  67. cano is the bro says:

    nooooo

  68. bexarama says:

    Poop, I wanted a no-hitter. Oh well.

  69. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Remind me to call Michael Kay’s radio show tomorrow–somebody has to hold him accountable for jinxing the no hitter.

  70. CS Yankee says:

    Don’t pitch to the weather, CC

    /jackmorris’d

  71. Fred Lemond says:

    Yeah Swish!!!!

  72. Reggie C. says:

    HELLZ YEAH!

    c’mon! ONE MORE OUT!

  73. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Fuck. Yeah.

    One more out.

  74. Cy Pettitte says:

    Swish comes up big, now CC needs to get the out and make this official

  75. VO says:

    Atta boy Swish!

  76. Carlosologist says:

    Swish has a laser.

  77. Adam says:

    Dude, how about the play by Jorgie??

  78. Hummingbird S. says:

    Yay Swisha!

  79. Jake H says:

    Blown call but I will take it.

  80. RalphieD says:

    i must be seeing things…on that side view i thought i saw the ball in posadas hand lol

  81. Cy Farnsworth says:

    There’s nothing that Eiland can’t fix.

    Well, except for Home Run Javy.

  82. Zack says:

    Swish = money

  83. forensic says:

    Why do neither of them mention that once again Jorge put the ball in his bare hand and tagged the runner with the empty glove? He does that way too much and if not for blind umps, he’d lose so many outs.

  84. Fred Lemond says:

    Posada didn’t even have the ball in his glove lol!

  85. Cy Farnsworth says:

    Haha Posada totally had the ball in his barehand.

    Jorge’s awesome.

  86. Carlosologist says:

    Jorge tagged Gutierrez with the glove, but he had no ball in the glove.

    • abbie says:

      If Cervelli would have been involved in that play rather than Posada, you would have been bashing him all over!!!!!

  87. Esteban says:

    Little League World Series has replay, but the MLB doesn’t.

  88. Adam says:

    hahaha that was awesome. Atta boy Sneaky ‘Sado!

  89. Hummingbird S. says:

    Comon CC, one more strike.

  90. j_Yankees says:

    Well played, Jorge. Well played indeed.

  91. Esteban says:

    Did anyone think that Swisher would be this good? I doubt even Cashman expected this season from Swish

    • Adam says:

      Yeah, is pretty remarkable. Might I also add…Wilson Betemit.

    • Zack says:

      No one ever expected Swish to hit. .300; but he had one bad year- he was always expected to provide OBP/power

      • Angelo says:

        I think his point is:

        Swisher 2009-2010 is better than Swisher before 2009.

        • Zack says:

          His last 2 years in Oakland he was: .258/.377/.474/.851 (Ages 25-26)
          His 2 years in New York he is: .270/.368/.505/.873(Ages 28-29)

          It’s not THAT much of a difference, and if he didn’t have a .341 BABIP this year it would be closer. (Although he does have a higher LD% than his career number)
          But aren’t most guys better hitters at age 28-29 than 25-26?

          • Angelo says:

            My point doesn’t change. He’s still a better hitter. And yes, Swisher is in his prime.

            • Zack says:

              Right, but the original post was showing shock that Swish is having such a good season in 2010. And yes, no one expected it, because you can’t predict a BABIP that’s 40 points higher than what it’s been like in the past.

              And you’re point that he’s better now than before is true, and that’s not shocking either.

  92. Carlosologist says:

    Even funnier is the fact that the ump had a clear view to see that the ball was not in Posada’s glove. Whatever, I’ll take it.

  93. Adam says:

    Granted he has made a couple of outs, but just like the hit yesterday, Nunez really seems to go the other way with pitches consistently?

  94. MJ says:

    CC Sabathia only averages 101.7 pitches per game started and AJ Burnett only averages 97.8.

    In reply to:

    “Girardi rarely pulls Sabathia after only 100 pitches”

    “Exactly, CC usually goes up to 110-115 and so does AJ.”

    • MJ says:

      I guess I’m at fault here. I should be looking at pitch count per start when the pitcher is having a successful day. The bad starts drastically affect the average.

      When looking at the game log it is true that if the pitcher is having a successful with good stuff the manager is more likely to let CC or AJ pitch past the 110 mark.

    • JGS says:

      CC’S average goes up to 108 if you pull out the 73 pitch outing against Texas where he was cruising but got knocked out by rain

      • bexarama says:

        And what about the game in Boston where he was one strike away from completing 5 innings with a lead when it started pouring? (Though IIRC he was not that great in that game so he might’ve thrown a bunch of pitches)

        • JGS says:

          He threw 85 in that game, so without the Texas and Boston starts he is at…108

          (I actually got it wrong before–without just the Texas start it’s 106.9, and without both it’s 107.8)

  95. bexarama says:

    Someone will now slam Jeter for only seeing four pitches in that at-bat.

  96. Fred Lemond says:

    Wooo Swish

  97. Cy Pettitte says:

    can’t believe Ichiro didn’t hold on, lucky break

  98. Hughesus Christo says:

    Jeter looks gimpy…

    • MikeD says:

      He was laboring going into third, and seemed to be moving slowly on that aborted slide earlier. Something is bothering him.

  99. bexarama says:

    I hope this works as well as it normally works when they IBB Tex to face A-Rod >:D

  100. Angelo says:

    Robby Cano, baby!!!

  101. Reggie C. says:

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

  102. Jake H says:

    That was a shot.

  103. Esteban says:

    CANOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    WOW is this guy good

  104. Pat D says:

    Fuck yea!!!

  105. VO says:

    Please load the bases for Cano some more.

  106. Adam says:

    Wow! Robbie is so awesome.

  107. Chris says:

    Why do managers insist on walking Tex to load the bases?

  108. Carlosologist says:

    Alex passed the grand slam torch to Cano. WOO!

  109. Cy Pettitte says:

    that will teach them to IBB to get to Cano, god damn that was ridiculous

  110. Reggie C. says:

    CA-RUSHED!

  111. Fred Lemond says:

    Slam!!!

  112. cano is the bro says:

    fuck yea cano!!!

  113. James A says:

    He was clearly sitting on a changeup
    Love the reaction from the bench

  114. Esteban says:

    Somewhere Dave Cameron sheds a tear

    #6org haha

  115. RalphieD says:

    OMG…why did cano swing at the first pitch! doesnt he know 10 pitch strikeouts>>>>> grandslams

  116. rek4gehrig says:

    my heartthrob always comes thru :-))

  117. Adam says:

    The stat about Donnie’s 6 grand slams in 1987 is pretty amazing. I remember that season fondly.

  118. j_Yankees says:

    He he…Cano looked into the dugout ‘A-rod style’

  119. ecks says:

    LOL THEY IBBED TO GET TO CANO! HAHAHAHAHA.

    You wonder why people keep walking Tex to load the bases for our #4 hitter. Haha. Apparently, it’s not only A-Rod who can do it! Go Cano!

  120. MikeD says:

    French had only surrendered two HRs coming into this game, with one of them to Tex. He’s not given up four, three to the Yankees. I don’t think he’s fooling them.

  121. Carlosologist says:

    Cano broke the clouds, haha.

  122. ecks says:

    Ugh, gamecast sucks. I hope the highlights on YES/mlb.com include the dugout’s reaction…

  123. bexarama says:

    Teixeira’s been IBBed four times this season. Three times after that, the next batter has hit a grand slam.

  124. MikeD says:

    Tell that to Nolan Ryan, Michael.

  125. Reggie C. says:

    Not to get too ahead of myself , but if CC wins 21, 22 games and leads the AL in wins, the current voters will give the man another CY Young award.

    • bexarama says:

      They might, but unless he really deserves it, I don’t want to see him get it. Sorry, CC. :(

      I’d rather see him get another ring anyway. ;)

      • MikeD says:

        As I mentioned last week when the universal belief at RAB was King Felix should win the award, my point was not who deserves it, but who is most likely to win it. Current course and speed, CC is going to get it. Cliff Lee has had a rough go of late, with an ERA of over 4.00 since joining the Rangers and now has a 10-7 record. King Felix has pitched the best, but has a losing record and is only at nine wins here in late August. The BBWAA voters will not select Hernandez when there is someone like CC with a lot of wins to select. Price will also get a lot of consideration.

        I know many of us here at RAB, myself included, believe the award should go to the best pitcher, yet that’s not how they vote. Don’t overvalue the Greinke and Lincecum selections last year. Not much has changed among the voters.

        BTW When does CC start getting additional credit for pitching in the new Yankee Stadium. The data this year suggests our park is a total hitter’s park. I do want to see three years of data before making a final determination.

        • MikeD says:

          BTW The belief was either Lee or King Felix. Can’t quite remember now.

          I’ll stand by my prediction. CC will win it.

        • bexarama says:

          I don’t think the “universal belief” at RAB is that Felix should win the award. In fact, most people argued in that post that Lee should win it. That was before Lee’s implosion yesterday, but I still think he deserves it. Felix is as good a second-tier choice as any (Liriano, Weaver, Lester – most of who the MSM isn’t considering though, I’m sure).

          Though I agree with what you said – when there’s CC and his hopefully 20+ wins, next to Felix who will have what, 15 wins at the most probably, BBWAA will go with CC, even if all his other stats aren’t as good.

          I did just look at the park factors for YSIII because you mentioned it and whoah. Still, last year, it was a pitchers’ park. I guess ERA+ is giving credit for what park the pitcher pitches in, no?

          • MikeD says:

            If King Felix can get up to the 15+ win range and post a winning record, then I can see voters giving him a shot. He has been the best pitcher, overall, in the AL for two years (I’m blending his two years together).

            My selection of CC goes by the natural bias BBWAA voters have toward wins, not to mention CC’s peripherals will be solid, and he’ll get credit for pitching a team to (hopefully) first place in the A.L. East. As mentioned, this is not who I believe is the best pitcher, but who is going to win it. Last, I’m doing a bit of projection here as CC has a tendency to finish very strong, so we’re looking at a 21-24 win season with perhaps a sub-3.00 ERA. I think that will be too much for many of the voters to resist. (And, btw, it’s not as if he does that I’ll think he’s a bad choice!)

            As for the new Yankee Stadium, I’m not sure what to make of it yet. Last year, we ranked 20th out of 30 teams for offense based on park factors. Like the old Stadium, it seemed the new place was pitcher friendly, despite being a bit more homer-friendly than the old park. The reason why is it played like the old Stadium, depressing doubles. In other words, what makes Fenway a great hitters’ park (doubles) made Yankee Stadium (all versions) more of a pitcher’s park. This year, the Stadium is no longer depressing doubles. This maybe an aberration since what made the old Stadium bad for doubles (and BA) should translate to the new place, as it did last year. My guess is we’ll see doubles depressed again in 2011, yet that’s why I have to see three years of data before making a determination on the new place.

            Yet, it has played as an offensive paradise this year. CC should get some credit here. I don’t know if ERA+ takes this into account in real time. Good question.

  126. I think this tidbit from Tim Britton sums it all up:

    Mark Teixeira has been intentionally walked four times this season. The next batter has hit a grand slam three of those four times.

    Maybe stop IBBing Teixeira to load the bases, other teams.

  127. cano is the bro says:

    man i would love to see a CG shutout from CC today

  128. Esteban says:

    Well that just looks ridiculous. A Brock umbrella c’mon

  129. Cy Pettitte says:

    too bad the weather is so bad, CC has a legit shot at a CG shutout

  130. Pat D says:

    OK, I’m asking this because I’ve seen it referenced. You crazy kids keep confusing me with your new-fangled stats.

    I’ve seen references this past week to fWAR and bWAR. Does this mean FanGraphs WAR and B-Ref WAR?

  131. Reggie C. says:

    The tarp is coming out. That just might be game.

    Nice cg win for CC.

  132. swisher's fauxhawk says:

    Unleash the tarp.

  133. Carlosologist says:

    CC with his third CG and first shutout of the season.

  134. Esteban says:

    Best pitcher= Most wins right? Is this what you’re telling me YES?

    • Angelo says:

      Duh!

      In all seriousness it’s a little sad that MSM gives it so much credibility.

    • PaulF says:

      Not exactly, just that Cy Young might = most wins, which isn’t YES’s fault.

      • Januz says:

        I have to admit, I never realized CC was that good, until he signed here (Perhaps because the Yankees always seemed to have his number). I certainly hope that if the Yankees win the division, and CC keeps going strong, he wins the CY Young. I could live with Price winning the Cy Young, if Tampa wins the division, but not “King Felix”. In my opinion, unless you have a season like Steve Carlton did in 1972 (27-10 1.97 ERA, 310 Strikeouts), a guy who pitches for a last team should not be winning Cy Young Awards (Particularly when there are quality candidates out there like CC and Price, playing for winning teams).

        • JGS says:

          What does playing for a winning team have to do with the Cy Young?

          • Angelo says:

            Cy Young = MVP???

          • Januz says:

            Sad to say, it really does not count enough. Although to be honest, when you look at the value of Price or Sabathia to their teams, that should be taken into account. What bothers me is the history of Yankees being screwed out of awards. Colon over Mariano for the Cy Young in 2005 comes to mind.

            • JobaWockeeZ says:

              Colon may or may not have deserved the award but he deserves the CY Young more than Mariano.

              • Januz says:

                Mariano Rivera may be the most important pitcher we have seen over the past 20 years (Obviously guys like Randy Johnson, Pedro, Meddox, Clemens & Glavine were better). But this man’s effect on Champonships cannot be underestimated, and sad to say it is (Like when Colon with his 3.48 ERA won the CY Young). If Hernandez wins with a losing record, then it will be more anti-Yankee rationalization (Use wins when the opponent is a Yankee, use “best” pitcher when the Yankee is the opponent).

            • bexarama says:

              Oh get over it, Santana and others were screwed way more than Mo was.

            • JGS says:

              Value of 2009 Greinke to his team >>>>>> value of any other pitcher in 2009 to their teams

              Because Greinke was the best pitcher in baseball

          • JobaWockeeZ says:

            Never understood that argument. Is it the Felix’s fault that Ichiro is the only hitter on that team?

        • Carlosologist says:

          In my opinion, I believe the award should go to the best pitcher, regardless of W/L record. King Felix has been in the top 10 of every credible pitching evaluator. (3rd in fWAR, 2nd in ERA, 3rd in FIP and xFIP, fourth in WHIP, 10th in H/9, t-10th in BB/9, 7th in K/9, 1st in IP, 2nd in strikeouts, 2nd in ERA+, 9th in HR/9, 7th in K/BB)

          • Januz says:

            If a guy’s numbers are vastly superior I can understand that. But if he has a losing record, and CC or Price win 20, he should not get it. In the case of CC, you should also look at the ballpark he plays in (A hitters paradise), yet he could be 10-0 at home. Unless someone is a total fantasy sports stat head, I don’t know how anyone can advocate giving the award to a guy if he has a .500 record (Or worse, losing record).

            • JobaWockeeZ says:

              Easy, because they’re the best. Would you vote for a 30-0 4.50 ERA pitcher or a 5-20 1.50 ERA pitcher both pitching 200 innings?

            • bexarama says:

              Unless someone is a total fantasy sports stat head, I don’t know how anyone can advocate giving the award to a guy if he has a .500 record (Or worse, losing record).

              Because pitchers can’t control the runs their team scores for them and Felix is on a historically bad offensive team. I don’t see why that’s so hard to understand. If Felix was on the Yankees, he’d probably have more wins than CC right now.

              • That.

                Should Ernie Banks have never gotten into the Hall of Fame because he never played on a winning team?

                Individual honors and awards ≠ team success

                • Januz says:

                  If someone belongs in Cooperstown they belong there, no question about it. Banks, like Willians & Jenkins from that team certainly does. But I am talking about a one year basis, where Hernandez’s stats are not like Carlton’s, or even Grienke’s (16-8 2.16 ERA)

                  • Getting into the HoF is an individual recognition of greatness over a career.

                    Winning a Cy or MVP or RoY is an individual recognition of greatness over a single season.

                    Neither of them should have any bearing at all on the player’s team, because who he plays for does not define how good he was or was not. Similarly, team stats should have no bearing on either HoF candidacy or Cy/MVP/RoY candidacy.

              • Januz says:

                That is pure speculation. There is no guarantee that he would succeed here (Look at Pavano here compared to Florida or Minnesota). Certain guys don’t perform in pressure situations. Does it mean he would suck here? No it does not, but it does not mean he would be Pedro Martinez either.

            • JGS says:

              None of this includes CC from today

              Innings Pitched:
              Felix: 197
              CC: 181.2
              Price: 157.2

              ERA:
              Felix: 2.51
              CC: 3.12
              Price: 2.97

              Strikeouts:
              Felix: 183
              CC: 143
              Price: 146

              WHIP:
              Felix: 1.127
              CC: 1.244
              Price: 1.256

              K:BB:
              Felix: 3.33
              CC: 2.34
              Price: 2.25

              I could keep going. In regard to W/L record, keep in mind the Mariners this year are on pace to score 54 fewer runs than the 119-loss 2003 Tigers. None of that is Felix’s fault.

              There is no reasonable way to conclude that CC or Price has been better than Felix this year.

  135. Esteban says:

    If they resume play, CC’s not coming back right?

  136. Reggie C. says:

    Joe G. is going to field alot more Cubbie questions starting tomorrow.

    • Carlosologist says:

      I can’t speak for Joe, but I wouldn’t think he would want to go from perennial World Series contender to a team that is in a constant rebuilding effort.

      • MikeD says:

        Agreed, although the Cubs are one of the game’s top name teams and he’s a Chicago boy who also played for the Cubbies. Bringing a World Championship to the Cubs is something he would love to do. If he has a love for the Cubs in his heart, the opportunity might draw him. Yet I can’t see him leaving the Yankees, even for that opportunity.

  137. MikeD says:

    Piniella will be back, even if he doesn’t now it himself yet.

  138. bexarama says:

    So with all this talk of the AL Cy Young… who wins the NL Cy Young?

  139. Pat D says:

    OK, a few days ago I asked the question of what was the first team to win a World Series and not have a future HOF player. The 1981 Dodgers is the answer.

    So now I ask, can anyone guess the first team to lose a World Series and not have a single future HOF player on their roster?

  140. Game’s going to resume at 3:30.

  141. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Seriously David Price should not win the Cy Young, Top 5 maybe but definitely not the winner.

  142. Pat D says:

    Someone needs to explain the difference of team wins vs. pitcher wins to these guys.

    • MikeD says:

      I do agree with Lang, though. Greinke was a special case that we can not assume will continue to play out. As I mentioned in a couple of posts above with Bexy, my money is on CC winning the award. It’s not who I think is the best pitcher, it’s who is going to win it. King Felix with nine wins and a losing record, and Lee with an ERA in the same range now as CC and a 10-7 record are not going to win the award. There’s still plenty of time for things to change, but to me it’s CC right now.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        I wonder why CC’s WAR is so low on the leaderboard. He’s already got 180 IP with a 3.30 FIP to boot. I agree he has a good chance to win the award.

      • Pat D says:

        I agree. Last year was interesting in that both Greinke and Lincecum didn’t have gaudy win totals. Then again, no one did.

        This year might go a long way to proving if last year was just a blip or if the voters are getting smarter. After all, it’s not the same 30-32 guys who vote on the same award each year.

  143. Carlosologist says:

    WAR mention! =O

  144. leo says:

    hey does anyone have a link to the video of giambi hitting his superslam in 2002? been trying to find for a while but no luck. help would be greatly appreciated!!

  145. In regards to the NL Cy Young convo from above, here’s the top 20 NL starters sorted by IP/S:

    1 Roy Halladay, PHI - 26 GS, 200 IP, 1.03 WHIP, 2.16 ERA, 7.69 IP/S
    2 Adam Wainwright, STL - 26 GS, 183.1 IP, 0.98 WHIP, 2.06 ERA, 7.04 IP/S
    3 Johan Santana, NYM - 26 GS, 179 IP, 1.21 WHIP, 2.97 ERA, 6.88 IP/S
    4 Tim Hudson, ATL - 25 GS, 171.2 IP, 1.09 WHIP, 2.15 ERA, 6.85 IP/S
    5 Brett Myers, HOU - 25 GS, 171 IP, 1.22 WHIP, 3.11 ERA, 6.84 IP/S
    6 Chris Carpenter, STL - 27 GS, 184.1 IP, 1.15 WHIP, 2.88 ERA, 6.82 IP/S
    7 Ubaldo Jimenez, COL - 25 GS, 169.1 IP, 1.10 WHIP, 2.66 ERA, 6.76 IP/S
    8 Matt Cain, SF - 25 GS, 168 IP, 1.16 WHIP, 3.11 ERA, 6.72 IP/S
    9 Bronson Arroyo, CIN - 25 GS, 167.1 IP, 1.18 WHIP, 3.87 ERA, 6.68 IP/S
    10 Josh Johnson, FLA - 25 GS, 166.2 IP, 1.06 WHIP, 2.27 ERA, 6.65 IP/S
    11 Ryan Dempster, CHC - 26 GS, 172 IP, 1.28 WHIP, 3.56 ERA, 6.62 IP/S
    12 Ted Lilly, CHC/LAD - 22 GS, 145 IP, 1.03 WHIP, 3.23 ERA, 6.59 IP/S
    13 Livan Hernandez, WSH - 25 GS, 164.2 IP, 1.26 WHIP, 3.06 ERA, 6.57 IP/S
    14 Barry Zito, SF - 25 GS, 162 IP, 1.26 WHIP, 3.56 ERA, 6.48 IP/S
    15 Roy Oswalt, HOU/PHI - 24 GS, 155.1 IP, 1.11 WHIP, 3.36 ERA, 6.46 IP/S
    16 Cole Hamels, PHI - 25 GS, 159 IP, 1.25 WHIP, 3.51 ERA, 6.36 IP/S
    17 Tim Lincecum, SF - 26 GS, 164.2 IP, 1.35 WHIP, 3.72 ERA, 6.32 IP/S
    18 Clayton Kershaw, LAD - 25 GS, 157.1 IP, 1.24 WHIP, 3.03 ERA, 6.28 IP/S
    19 Mike Leake, CIN - 22 GS, 138 IP, 1.45 WHIP, 3.85 ERA, 6.27 IP/S
    20 Mat Latos, SD - 23 GS, 142.2 IP, 0.98 WHIP, 2.33 ERA, 6.18 IP/S

    ———–

    My ballot:
    1.) Halladay

    (gap)

    2.) Wainwright

    (gap)

    3.) Hudson
    4.) Jimenez
    5.) Johnson

  146. Frankie Cervelli looks so sad sitting there in that bullpen.

  147. Carlosologist says:

    LOL, the ball was just stuck there in right.

  148. bexarama says:

    The field is actually scaring me. :/

  149. Hughesus Christo says:

    Why are they playing? This is Metsian.

  150. Pat D says:

    I think they should IBB Teix again.

  151. Mike Axisa says:

    Do it again, Robbie.

  152. Carlosologist says:

    Watch, Cano homers. AGAIN.

  153. Fred Lemond says:

    6 rbi nice job Cano

  154. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Can’t wait for the Montero-Cano 3-4.

  155. bexarama says:

    Pedroia would’ve gritted his way to a second grand slam there

  156. Esteban says:

    Seriously, how good is this guy? He has almost weaknesses at this point.

  157. JobaWockeeZ says:

    But isn’t Cano unclutch?

    /2009′d

  158. Mike Axisa says:

    0-2 count to an eight pitch at-bat that ends with a two run single. Robbie has matured right before our eyes.

  159. Esteban says:

    Ohhh no! Why didn’t that ball knock out Suzyn Waldman. Our long national nightmare could have been over.

  160. JGS says:

    “I can go under the table as quick as anybody”

    -Suzyn Waldman, a minute ago when a foul ball went through the booth

  161. Hold on… Dustin Pedroia’s middle name is “Luis!?”

    Not scrappy.

  162. Mike Axisa says:

    Seriously, let Nunez pitch the 8th and 9th. Save the bullpen. Dude’s got the arm for it.

  163. JobaWockeeZ says:

    If this man doesn’t make the HoF, that is a shame.

  164. MikeD says:

    It would be great if Posada has a strong finish. He’s been quiet for a while. Two HRs in two games now. Good sign.

  165. bexarama says:

    Jorge Posada rules.

  166. Esteban says:

    Where are the trolls now? Poopypants? Jersey Johnny? Nintendo vs. Sega? Where are you now?

  167. Carlosologist says:

    Nunez is learning from the 2010 Derek Jeter.

  168. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Another win with A-Rod out of the lineup. 9 runs too to boot. Pete Abe would have been proud.

  169. Mike Axisa says:

    Moving Nunez to short so Pena could play third is straight up hilarious.

  170. Open Question for the board: Of the teams in actual title contention (as in, not the Pirates or Nationals), who do you want us to beat in the 2010 World Series? Interpret that how you will (i.e., you hate a certain team and want to rub it in their faces, or you respect a certain team and want to play them as worthy adversaries, or you have an affinity for a certain team and like to see them do well, etc.)

    State your teams and reasons. I want to beat either:

    The Braves (I’d like to see Cox get one last hurrah on the big stage) or

    The Giants (because I kinda like them for some reason I can’t quite put my finger on; maybe it’s their lack of success since moving to Frisco).

    • Mike Axisa says:

      The Phillies because I despise Jimmy Rollins and his mouth.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      Braves and Dodgers (if they count as a contender).

    • Pat D says:

      I can’t speak for myself, but my dad’s answer will always be the Cardinals.

      He has not forgotten 1964.

      • Pat D says:

        Oh, the Cardinals also because the Cardinals are 4-3 in the World Series against the Yankees.

        I’m not sure who I’d say for myself. I don’t like most of the NL teams in contention, or don’t have strong feelings for one way or the other.

        I know I really don’t want to play the Phillies for fear of losing to them since I live in what is considered Phillies territory.

    • JGS says:

      I’d probably go with San Diego–it would remind me of 1998

    • Angelo says:

      I’d love for the Yankees to face the Braves, partly because of what you mentioned. Also, the Braves have always been my favorite NL team in some sense.

      Or the Philles again. I hate the Phillies with a passion, and I’d love for the Yankees to destroy them again.

    • Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

      I like the Giants too, but I’d like to see the Braves. Respect the Cox.

    • Brooklyn Ed says:

      Cardinals; well because of Pujols, Holliday, Wainwright, and Carpenter.

    • Esteban says:

      I think the Cardinals would be a pretty cool matchup. Braves-meh been there done that, Ditto Phillies and Padres. I don’t find the Reds that interesting.

    • MikeD says:

      The Phillies, because they trash talk too much, and it’s a painful reminder to Met fans that the Yankees can beat the Phillies while they can’t.

    • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all) says:

      The path with least resistance, I don’t believe in honor or obtaining victory from strong opponents. So whatever team is the weakest link in the NL is who I wish for to be the opponent.

    • Steve O. says:

      Definitely the Padres. Suspect offense and their ace is a younger guy supporting that staff. They’re the weakest team.

      • Like I said, though, you don’t have to reflexively phrase the question in terms of “who would be the easiest team to beat?”

        You can pick a tougher team for other, non-competitive reasons if you so choose.

        • Steve O. says:

          Oh I’m in an auditorium with a couple hundred people, so I misunderstood.

          The Cardinals because I take pleasure in watching that pitching staff(outside of Westbrook) and beating TLR who apparently is such a “genious.”

          Or the Phillies because of Rollins ridiculous predictions last year.

      • Total Dominication says:

        Their pitching is ridiculous though. In my opinion they’re the strongest team in the NL.

    • bexarama says:

      I would like to destroy various teams for various reasons:

      - the Dodgers because of Torre, but they’re not making the postseason.
      - the Padres, just so there would be SO MUCH WHINING about TEH SMALL MARKET.
      - the Phillies so we could shut up Rollins again. Plus I think they’re good.
      - the Braves, for the reasons you mentioned. It’d be nice to see Bobby Cox go out with one last pennant. Just the pennant, though. ;)

      • Pat D says:

        The Padres are the team in the NL I like the most. Due to that having been Dave Winfield’s first team.

        I really wouldn’t want the Braves, Padres or Phillies because of the “been there, done that” mantra.

        The Reds and Cardinals both beat the Yankees in the last time the teams played in the series. Yes, they were both before my lifetime, but so what? Revenge! (Can’t wait to see the D-Backs or Marlins again). The Dodgers are out of it, sadly, and they fall under this category as well.

        The Giants are intriguing. Anything that will make Chris Russo whine makes me smile.

    • Carlosologist says:

      I want us to beat the Giants as well. They were my preseason pick as the team to beat in the NL. They’ll make it to the Series with their strong pitching and passable offense. We’ll beat them because our offense is better and our pitching could probably go toe-to-toe with theirs.

      • bexarama says:

        Their pitching is in a huge slump of late. Lincecum could certainly pick it up, but he’s not the Lincecum of 2008 and 2009. Their offense is actually okay, I have no idea how, but it’s not the kind of offense that you can expect to carry you through a major pitching slump.

    • cano is the bro says:

      i would definitely want to beat the phillies again. Too many shit talking fans which would shut them up….not to mention rollins, lol

    • Hughesus Christo says:

      The Cardinals, because fuck Tony La Russa

    • Jerome S says:

      The Cardinals, because it would be really close and insane to see matchups like Sabathia-Wainwright, and on the field Tex and Pujols going at it. If that were the match up, I could care less who won, that’s damn good baseball.
      But also phuck the phillies, should the situation arise.

  171. bexarama says:

    The booth JIHPing over Ichiro hitting some little bloop is hilarious and annoying.

  172. Michael says:

    BABIP being unlucky.

  173. Esteban says:

    This is getting ri-goddamn-diculous. Stupid dinkers

  174. Michael says:

    This defense is marinersesque.

  175. Total Dominication says:

    Swisher’s defending all over this game.

  176. Total Dominication says:

    Can we has more?

  177. Pat D says:

    Anytime I see Chone Figgins play badly…you know, it just makes me laugh uncontrollably.

    • bexarama says:

      Me too. I’m pretty pleased to say I was never on the Mariners’ bandwagon, nor did I think Figgins would be TEH DIFFERENCE MAKER!!!

      Of course, I said the Blue Jays and Padres would lose ~100 games so what do I know.

      • Pat D says:

        Well, it’s just because of the Angels connection, obviously.

        Watching that pop fly drop between him and Aybar in Game 1 of the LCS last year is one of my favorite memories of last postseason.

        • bexarama says:

          Other than winning the WS and the various walk-offs and Andy sexiness and stuff, Kazmir throwing all those bunts away was my favorite part of last year’s postseason.

        • Kit says:

          A friend and I act that moment out when our college friends from California visit. They always have something smart to say about the Yankees, so we let them know they haven’t lived down the shame of last year, especially not with their record this year.

          • bexarama says:

            I’ve been known to imitate the Kazmir bunt error while yelping “DURF!!!”. No, I’m not really that proud of this fact.

            • Kit says:

              Haha…that’s actually funny though. I usually play Aybar and I’m all “Hey Chone. How’s your family doin’? By the way, are you aware of where the ball is? I’m freezing my nuts off in this chilly New York weather and it impairs both my ability to play baseball and see. Oh. There it is.”

    • Esteban says:

      He’s just so annoying and always seemed to kill the Yankees when he was on the Angels.

  178. Total Dominication says:

    Come on hometown scorers give i’m the hit!

  179. Total Dominication says:

    Can we get Cano cleaning up everyday?

  180. MikeD says:

    I think we can safely assume our slump is over. King Felix shut us out, yet he’s King Felix.

  181. Total Dominication says:

    I hate wanting Dallas Braden to win. here’s to the Rays losing 20-15.

  182. cano is the bro says:

    asides from the game against king felix, the offense has been straight money lately. Especially cano, 6 RBIs today, he’s raping the cleanup spot

  183. Esteban says:

    Holy shit, the Dodgers have been using catchers slugging less than .250??!! That’s Ramiro Pena-esque.

  184. Total Dominication says:

    This game was Total Dominication.

  185. cano is the bro says:

    come on joba i want the shutout lol

  186. JobaWockeeZ says:

    A tongue depressor?

  187. Total Dominication says:

    A tounge depressor Kay? Really?

  188. Pat D says:

    Joba, just have a nice, quiet inning.

  189. Wil Nieves #1 Fan says:

    Kotchman’s uniform is a little dirty.

  190. Pat D says:

    Well Braden’s perfect game, no hitter and shutout are kaput!

  191. Fred Lemond says:

    Great win

  192. Total Dominication says:

    Yankees Win! Total Dominication! Fuggedaboudit!

  193. Adam says:

    Highest record of season, 30 games over! But I thought after a loss to Kansas City that the world was coming to an end??

  194. Jose the Satirist says:

    Nice job by XP predicting a 10 run win.

  195. JobaWockeeZ says:

    I love Robinson Cano.

  196. cano is the bro says:

    an absolutely dominating performance from CC (8 K’s no walks), along with zeroes from the bullpen and another explosion from the offense. What more could i want in a win?

  197. 28 this year says:

    We are now 12-0 without Arod and our runs per game just went up. Who needs him. I say we have Nunez and Pena on the playoff roster instead of Arod. So much better that way.

    • Hughesus Christo says:

      I think Girardi manages the team differently with ARod out, but that’s Joe’s problem not ARod’s.

      Come on Cubs… you know you want it.

  198. bonestock94 says:

    lawls, Garza just got robbed with a balk call w/ the bases loaded. Tie game.

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