Game 125: SuperNova
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You're not in Trenton anymore, Ivan. (Photo Credit: Flickr user Russ Glasson)
Hopefully the Yankees enjoy the Blue Jays’ company, because tonight marks the first of nine games the two will play during the final 38 games of the Yanks’ season. That’s a touch less than one out of every four games going forward. The Jays come into this one losers in four of their last five even though they outscored their opponents 26-23 during that stretch. That’s what a 16-2 win will do for you.
On the bump for the Yanks will be Ivan Nova, who is making his first career big league start as you already know. With any luck, the Jays will experience the same “helpless against a pitcher they’ve never seen before” phenomenon that plagues the Yanks. Toronto will counter with Brandon Morrow, who hopefully will be in 5.1 IP, 5 R mode and not 7 IP, 2 R mode. At least he doesn’t feature a great changeup, like basically everyone else on their staff.
Here’s the starting nine…
Gardner, LF
Swisher, RF
Teixeira, 1B
Cano, 2B
Posada, DH
Granderson, CF
Nunez, SS – why is he at short and Pena at third? that’s backwards, defensively
Pena, 3B
Cervelli, C
First pitch is scheduled for a little after 7pm ET tonight, and it can be seen on YES. Enjoy.
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thats some lineup we got
Making Nova’s first win all that much sweeter. He’s going to do it with the D lineup.
The D lineup
or
The ‘D’ lineup?
I know things may go badly, but it’s still very exciting to watch a young guy make his MLB debut.
You had to put “MLB” in there and make it impossible to say “TWSS”, didn’t you?
I give because I love.
they’re auditioning Nunez at SS
Someone said it’s because Pena has more experience at third base.
Nunez, SS – why is he at short and Pena at third? that’s backwards, defensively
Because of the turf… just a guess
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....xid=si_mlb
What a surprise.
Unbelievable. Glad the Yankees are paying to stuff the Pirates owners’ pockets.
And we have a great gidp option on the bench… a first ballot HoF’er
http://sports.espn.go.com/bost.....id=5490371
Tommie: intrigued.
Joel Sherman had some SHOCKING news:
http://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/21937390269
Something happened with the Red Sox in 2004?? Hmm, this is the first I’ve heard of it.
When Joel’s on Twitter, he assumes his audience is 6 years old.
I feel like they did something…just can’t put my finger on it…
I laughed. A lot.
The Jays come into this one losers in four of their last five even though they outscored their opponents 26-23 during that stretch. That’s what a 16-2 win will do for you.
You see, this is why you can’t use run differential as a meaningful stat because it can be so misleading. Now the Blue Jays can play two more games, where they can win one 10-0 and lose another 2-1. Then their run differential will be +12, but they will have gone 2-5 over that stretch. Clearly, this isn’t an indicator of how good a team really is, like my 1975 Reds.
/Morgan’d
I’ve run the numbers: with that 26-23 run differential, the Jays are on pace to win 119 games this year.
/Hershiser’d
In fairness to hypothetical Morgan, run differential isn’t that useful over a five game span for precisely that reason.
Ummmm…yea. That was my point. That was how he answered a chat question last year. I just added in what Mike said. Obviously run differential is only valuable when looking at the entire season or at least much more than a handful of games. He doesn’t grasp that concept.
And really hopefully, he won’t be in 9 IP, 0 R, 17 K mode
First thing I thought when reading “7 IP, 2 R mode”
edit: with much due respect Mike, the Yankees aren’t nearly as down on Nunez as you are. Case in point: tentative Seattle/Cliff Lee trade. When Seattle wanted Nunez (instead of Adams) to complete the deal, and the Yankees said no – TWICE
I’m not so sure it’s that clear cut.
Agreed re the Seattle negotiations obviously, but at the same time, I have a hunch he’s right that the Yanks aren’t nearly as down on Nunez as Mike is. Just a gut feeling.
Agreed. But my point was more along the lines of even if it’s true that the Yankees refused to include Nuñez, you have to remember that they refused to include him in the package that was already Montero AND Adams.
If Montero is worth a dollar and Adams is worth 50 cents, it’s possible that the Yankees view Nuñez as only a nickel but won’t pay more that $1.50 total for Lee, so Nuñez (while not very valuable by himself) was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
Just a thought.
Yah, I agreed with you on that.
So…
Yankees & Mariner’s view of Nunez >>> Mike
At least Mike would of honored the trade and kept the relationship, therefore…
Mike >>> Mariner’s Z-GM
Ehhh can’t agree with this.
It’s not like they wouldn’t have traded Nunez for Lee, just that they felt including Nunez over Adams would have been overpaying for a Lee rental considering what they were already offering.
I’m with Mike on this one, the dude isn’t THAT good.
Nunez’s value isn’t tied directly to his individual ability. Much of his value is tied to his relative ability.
The SS position in the majors and minors is a wasteland right now. Relatively speaking, Nunez is a very good SS prospect and a very valuable commodity in baseball right now.
And really that value is all that matters in reality, because every team has to put someone at the SS position.
I also am not sure how down on Nunez Mike is anymore. To me at least it has seem to become a “thing” that Mike hates Nunez. I haven’t seen much Nunez hate this season from Mike, especially since he is having a fine season.
http://twitter.com/mikeaxisa/status/21853299945
http://twitter.com/mikeaxisa/status/21939434679
(Obviously it’s somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but still.)
haha. I see. I don’t follow twitter too much. I guess it is really just hard to deny Nunez is a legitimate prospect at this point and I haven’t seen Mike argue otherwise recently.
Which explains why he was left out of the top 30 list again.
Hahahahaha! Mike is too much.
Nunez has very little experience at 3B. Playing him there on astroturf with a groundball pitcher on the mound does not maximize their defense, especially since Pena is a good 3B and Nunez has become a good SS as well.
This was a funny piece from Zell’s.
http://zellspinstripeblog.com/.....fans-hate/
Someone needs to do the reverse, “Things Yankee fans love”
Pussytubing.
Well, that’s my favorite part of the Yankee fandom experience.
I disagree with #16. I don’t hate the Cleveland Indians drum, I hate the entire Cleveland Indians organization, top-to-bottom.
Who the fuck are the “Cleveland Indians”? Did you make that shit up?
I totally laughed at the fact that “Rays fans” is in quotation marks. Epic.
20. W.B. Mason Commercials
No way. I enjoy most of them, especially the janitors in the YES studio at 3 AM reality show. The choir one grates on me however. Not included were the Joba/Hughes rules and of course midges.
Here’s a list of some things I love
1.Bleacher Creatures doing the roll call
2.The facade back around the grandstand in YS III
3.Hip Hip Jorge chants
4.Phil Hughes developing into a future ace
5.Robinson Cano becoming a perennial MVP candidate
6.The Yankees finally using their prospects for more then trade bait
7.Alex Rodriguez’s chase for the Home Run record
8.Mark Teixeira’s spectacular gold glove defense at 1B
9.Nick Swisher’s infectious personality, the dude cracks me up
10.Monument Park
11. Bob Sheppard introducing Derek Jeter before each AB
12.Mariano Rivera being continuing to be the greatest closer ever in his 40′s
I could think of alot more but what else can you all think of?
The awesome Avis commercials.
So what previously mediocre but now suddenly buff Blue Jay is going to hit us up for a pair of taters tonight?
Aaron Hill
This was guaranteed as soon as the words “0 for his last 12″ came from Jack Curry’s mouth.
Bautista.
But he does that to everyone so it’s okay?
Game 162, Yanks and Sawx tied for the wild card, and up steps Johnny Damon with the sacks juiced and our man, Javy Vazquez on the bump…
Chances this happens: 0%.
What the hell are you talking about?
Here is a satirist. He isn’t serious.
See, I was too young to understand 2004 because I was like 8, but I do now. People like you are too hung up on one event. It has apparently scarred you for life. But my God, you have to stop fearing the worst when the Yanks are down in the early going. It’s been six years. It’s time to let go of the past and move on with your baseball life. The Yanks are in first place, Boston is fighting with the Jays for third and have no realistic shot at the postseason. Move on.
Note: I feel like I’ve been whooshed. But I digress.
The 2001 Series scarred me. Not for life, but enough.
It’s also because there were other circumstances in that entire year that just totally sucked.
I admit when Mo had the bases loaded with no outs in Arizona this year I threw a blanket over my head and went “Noooo, noooooooooo”
The fact that you’re this rational yet as young as you are makes me have hope for the future.
Hey Kevin Brown, this ain’t 2004 so go punch another wall already.
walk him at that point I’ve seen this movie before
6 IP, 8 H, 2 BB, 2 K, 1 HR, 4 R. That’s what I’m hoping for.
I will settle for nothing less than
9IP 0H 0BB 0R 0ER 21Ks
/unrealisticexpetation’d
Only 21 strikeouts? Pssh at least go out on a limb and say more.
29 Ks, Cervelli throws the ball into CF a couple times.
I have a feeling lyle overbay will strike during this season. This guy destroys the yankees on a regular basis
Are you back from Africa (at least I thought you said that was where you were going)?
Overbay has a .696 OPS vs. current Yankees.
Everyone said the Yanks fleeced the Braves this off season for Vazquez. But after watching him pitch this year, Melky, Dunn and Arodys Vizcaino having Tommy John sounds about right.
Nothing, huh?
Must have been too subtle.
Took me a second, but now that I get it, ahaha.
Wow, a sympathy laugh. Now I’m depressed.
ooh, ManBan makes his AA debut against Kyle Drabek
Probable MLB matchup at some point within the next two or three years.
That would be a good game to attend.
I thought Kyle Drabek was near MLB ready prior to the trade though, why is he not in AAA?
RAB is powered by Ford now?
Ben is built Ford tough.
…and Mike has an Edge.
What’s Joe got?
Herpes.
Totally
You got a problem with that?
GO BACK TO RUSSIA!!!!
Typical RAB having a sponsor that was bailed out by the government. Bunch of Pinkos here.
They had some extra bailout money lying around, I guess.
/Rose Bait’d
I think he’s gone. Or at least gone silent for the time being.
Gestapo picked him up.
I assume Pelosi and Obama had him arrested for speaking out against health care reform.
That’s a blatant violation of their powers of office. Probably unconstitutional as well. Somebody should do something about this, start a petition or something.
Bamstapo*
Domino’s Tracker? If you’re that anal that you need to know where your pizza is in the fifteen-thirty minutes it takes to be delivered, you’ve got problems.
Haha, you said anal.
/immature’d
They used to call me “anal girl.”
I was very … neat and clean.
(Or whatever that line is.)
there should be poetry books written about those eyes.
I thought she said “anal”, turns out she didn’t. I got in trouble.
Not sure if this means much, but Nove looks cool as a cucumber on the bench. He’s looking at Cervelli like he’s nuts, so Ivan is obviously thinking clearly.
I’m sure the whole Deadspin financial records have been delved into already somewhere in these threads but I’m just returning from an Axisaesque vacation. Anyone who’s perused care to give me the gist?
Long story short, the Pirates are making it rain in the owner’s box. Every night.
Ha. That part I saw. Anything interesting in the other teams’ financials though?
Have the Blue Jays ever had a good looking uniform?
(thinks)
No, they have not.
I like these:
http://tinyurl.com/26pg9ue (safe)
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
but in the lank of the skunk, the man with half a nose is king…
/takes off glasses
You wanna say that to my face, bitch?
/gropes air awkwardly
No love for the powder blues.
Do you not like North Carolina’s uniforms either?
I like North Carolina’s powder blue football and basketball jerseys. Baseball… not so much. (But college baseball uniforms are notoriously fugly, so whatevs.)
What I don’t like is this: http://www.unlockedsports.com/.....austin.jpg
Carolina Blue is your color. Navy blue is not. Stop with the ridiculousness.
but the hats were pretty cool
I actually like their home uniform better than the powder blue ones.
There you go. Let Morrow make his own mess.
At least they’re working the count.
Make it a TTO inning, Tex!
Over/Under 7 strikeouts on the day for our 7/8/9 today?
Under.
Under–they put the ball in play, just don’t do much with it at that point
Also, chances that, if the Yanks win, headlines are “Yankees win without Jeter” tomorrow: 0%.
Gonna be a long day if he gets that pitch.
Cano is still hot baby!
Fuckin’ Robbie. What a stud.
/notlazy’d
Okay Robbie, you can be MVP.
Fuck. Yes.
Cano!
This Cano guy is good at baseball.
Beautiful slide by Swish
Yay for early leads.
Oh Posada.
What was he looking for?
I think he was looking for the oil.
/FredLemond’d
haha
Oh Georgie, you gotta swing at that 3-1 pitch.
Bah, Jorge… at least you saw a lot of pitches.
Bet. Now Nova can win with a CGSHO, 1-0.
/ballsy’d
On pace for nine runs and a MLB-setting record of 27 strike outs.
3-1 Fastball down the middle wasn’t good enough I guess.
He can K the side every inning as long as we get a run first.
I can’t believe Seattle just gave Morrow away for a middle reliever.
#6org
Was it Brandon League? Both have great arms. Wouldn’t be surprised if League becomes the M’s closer, although I’d rather have Morrow.
IMO, I’d take the upside of starting pitcher over a potential closer any day.
That. League is a great young arm but trading Morrow for him is an unmitigated disaster.
Shhhh…the B-Jobbers may be watching. They come out a night, you know.
Ballsy move by Nova , wearing Ron Villone’s old number
#47? Who does Nova think he is, Erick Almonte!?!?!
PastadivingNunez.
93-94 so far. Needs to get that down though.
Pastadivingnunez!
Wanted to be the first to break that one in.
arg
This is what we call not a good start.
Fuck.
I didn’t realize Morrow has a 10.5 K/9 this season. Impressive.
So far so good.
C’mon, Nova. You make me nervous, but I’m sure you can do it (maybe).
Three pitches in and there’s already a jam? Goddamn.
Uh oh!
This is an inauspicious beginning.
Heh. GMTA.
Get your grounder Ivan, that’s all you have to worry about.
Well this is not going as desired.
no of course Cito’s not surprised who doesn’t double their HR totatls year to year jeez
Get well soon, Andy.
hmmm…not really how we wanted this one to start.
Uh oh. CAN’T HANDLE TEH BIG STAGE!!!!!!
This is an inauspicious beginning.
Come on Nova!
Perfect. A triple play in his first start.
Positive thinking.
1-2-3 DP…please
Whose the best comparison for Jose Bautista in terms of ridiculous imporvement in HR production? Brady Anderson?
Really can’t say for sure until after next year. If he only hits, say, 20, then Brady Anderson is a good comparison.
Bane
Triple play here…
wow, he is jazzzzed up. Get through this one and hopefully he’ll settle down.
Now way is he throwing 96.
This is not going well.
C’mon, Nova. Shake off the jitters.
fuck ya, kid.
He hit 97.
/silver lining
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH baby!!!
/Sam Rosen’d
Wow. Perfect throw. That’s the way to pick up your pitcher.
BG BABY!!!
OUT!!!!!!!
GGBG’d
see Ivan DP no issue
http://images.google.com/image.....8;gs_rfai=
You do NOT run on Brett!
Gardner has a laser!
Thank you Mr 3rd Base Coach
Fuck yeah!!!!
GUNNED DOWN BY THE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT MAN!!!
BTW-Johnny Damn makes that play look easy.
Brett Gardner may not have the strongest arm, but he is infinitely more accurate than Melky…
when will these fools learn? BG has a cannon
It’s one of those lessons teams only learn once it’s hurt them. Like don’t intentionally walk Mark Teixeira.
Experience is something you never get until just after you need it.
Well said.
If you are looking for someone who will lead the league in outfield assists, look for a left fielder with a decent arm. People always run on these guys when they shouldn’t.
You know who didn’t lead the league in outfield assists?
Juan Gonzalez in 1996, that’s who.
But that guy said you’re not supposed to put the ball in the glove when you tag the runner. Cervelli did it wrong!
+1
Non-traditional DP’s. Gotta love ‘em.
Cervelli trying to pump him up. Gotta love TEH ENERGY!
So this gun is totally broken right? I don’t see how Nova is throwing 96-97 lol
wow 98.
I’ll believe all the oil is gone from the water before I believe he throws 98.
Can these radar gun readings be right? I’ve never heard it mentioned he throws 98.
a bit juiced up here
is the gun hot? I thought he was mid to low 90′s
that is how you properly block the plate and position the ball for who ever said yesterday that posada was correct and his “coaches” taught him to fake the ball in the glove.
haha, Singleton still cant say Shin SOO Choo
Mike, is the gun off? I don’t remember hearing anywhere that Nova touches 9& MPH.
97* MPH
Either the gun is off, or he’s a little amped up. Never heard of him throwing that hard.
me thinks that there was a mix up
Cervelli just took a shot to the nuts. Ow.
Nice recovery, Ivan.
ha, wow
FUCK YEAH!
Crisis: Averted.
Nice job, Ivanova.
Foooor threeeee! Ivan… NOVA!
Nova! way to finish off the inning
SuperNova escapes. Not bad.
could’ve been alot worst….thank u gardyy
He did not throw one good pitch that whole inning. we must pray
thats not really fair
Nova only threw 16 pitches that inning
well it wasn’t pretty but hopefully he breathes deep and just throws from here on out
lol @ not having CC on the Text Poll
I think the question called for “other than CC Sabathia”.
The poll specifically said “Aside from CC, who are the frontrunners?”
My bad folks!
No love for Lee, in the text poll.
Run Curtis, Run!
Seriously, no Cliff Lee in the text poll? Yes, I know he’s had a bad couple of outings; he still leads the league in K/9 by a wide, wide margin and is best in IP/S.
And Buchholz over Lester???
TEH ERA!!!
It really is kind of amazing how underrated Lester is. Other than the “five aces!!!” babbling he’s ALWAYS looked at as not as good as Beckett or Buchholz. Which is ridiculous, as he’s a Red Sock who is a GENUINELY awesome pitcher.
Yeah, I dunno. I guess it just so happens that when it was him and Beckett, they looked at him as the #2. And now when he’s surpassed Beckett, Buchholz happens to be pitching better. He’ll get his due in time from them I’m sure.
We should just be thankful that King Felix is there and move along.
Yeah, but… they normally have 4 spots in the text poll, but they only offered 3.
It’s as if they intentionally went out of their way to NOT include him.
You can thank Jack Zduriencik for that.
That makes it even weirder–Felix’s inclusion makes Lee’s omission even more glaring
Michael Kay is allergic to road games I suppose.
He’s gotta do his radio show!
Ah I totally forgot about that… haha. HOW DARE HE HAVE SOMETHING OVER BROADCASTING THE YANKEES! >:O
via Twitter:
FrankiePiliere
Scouted Nova a bunch in the minors and never saw him throw that hard. Consistent 97-98? Amped up or not…impressive
They had Clay Buchholz in that text poll and not Cliff Lee.
…did I miss something?
Well, he is leading his team to a solid third place finish
Apparently I was late on this. My B.
Morrow has to be Top 5 of guys you don’t to get plunked by.
I though Nova was a soft ground ball type even if the gun is off by 3 mph 95 mph is not soft.
I certainly wasn’t expecting to see 96, 97, 98 in the first inning.
Cliff Lee not in the text poll? Explain please YES.
Cant beat AL East teams since a Ranger
SSS
This.
Axisa was right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11`!!
if you play SS you must hit into 6-4-3 GIDPs, it’s a rule
Nunez admirably representing Jeter in the lineup tonight.
is it me or had he just crushed the ball into outs and blooped his hits? What a strange game
Well Suzyn…
Nunez doing his Jeter.
Nunez is a fast learner. Already looking like the heir apparent.
Pena’s hitting .667 off Morrow, why isn’t he IBBing him?!!
fuck me, hahahaha
No thanks.
http://www.bustedtees.com/jerseygirls
Hurting my feelings :[
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-ni.....r/1099542/
Pena! At least we clear the pitchers spot now.
very funny
Jeez, maybe Pena does have Morrow’s number.
/he’s like a shittier hitting Enrique Wilson
And Morrow is a shittier pitching Pedro Martinez
Moeller couldn’t have done that.
thats a great job by the lineup clearing the pitcher 3 times in 1 inning
cervelli’s at-bats r really frustrating to watch
Over-under on Cervelli at-bats in 2010: 125?
Push.
Dang that bottom third is nasty. we have to do better than that.
Wow you’re right.
Newton’s Law: Cervelli cannot exert a force Major League enough to put the ball over the outfield wall. Fact.
neither can Wil Nieves
Thats harsh man. He’s his #1 Fan
+1
Yes, I take Wil Nieves’ career very seriously. My name is not sarcastic or anything.
You know we frown on sarcasm here
sarcasticaboutsarcasm’d
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......id=5219007
JGS, can you find one more recent?
considering that is his only big league home run…no
You’re an honest man.
I’ve got a sinking feeling we’re going to see way too many 2-0 counts tonight from young Mr. Ivanova.
When Frankie hits one high, I know it’s never far. And I cry a bit inside…
Nice play by Pena.
PastadivingNunez. (again)
Gardner gets that.
overbay of course
.696 OPS against Yankee pitchers coming into tonight.
/killing the meme’d
Get me his last 5 starts.
/old meme
Nice rebound inning by Nova.
Could be the best rebound inning in the history of baseball.
Much better inning. As long as he’s keeping it on the ground we’re in good shape.
This made me laugh:
http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/21942561967 (safe)
It made me laugh really hard and I can’t quite tell why.
I think it’s a tweet to illustrate his knowledge of Johnny’s cell number.
It’s because you can just hear Jon thinking to himself
awwww…he called me ‘buddy’….I like him. . . .
If Damon accepts an assignment to the Sox, how many writers will say this could be the move that vaults them into a playoff spot?
I want the Sox to take on Damon and Manny Ramirez to boot.
It’ll make it all the funnier when they still finish 8 games back of the wildcard.
My brother said this as well, but without the wild card thing. He just thinks it’s hilarious that they’ve gotten hit so hard by injuries that their FO is delusional.
Pitching And Defense 2010, bitches!!!
FIVE ACES.
Fuck. Beat me to it.
Obviously I don’t want him to go, but if he does I hope to Mo they play him in center.
I don’t want him to go either. I like Damon (not enough to agree that the Yankees should have paid him what he was asking), so I don’t want him to end up back with a really ungrateful bunch of fucks “cheering” for him. He should stay in Detroit.
Not going to happen. I went to the game at Fenway early last year where Ellsbury stole home. They hadn’t done much of anything at the plate all game, but I stayed until the end to hear Johnny Damon pinch hit, and the huge chorus of boos he got.
Yes-Andy will never pitch from the windup with a fast guy on 3rd ever again!
Most of them. This move also gets Damon in the Hall of Fame (if/when he gets to 3000 hits). With the Boston PR machine fully in his corner again he might be first ballet.
Ballot.
(Second time someone’s said “ballet” today, don’t remember if it was you previously.)
So few people call him “buddy” he gets quite taken with it.
Heyman and Damon: BFF4EAE <33333
Heyman and Damon, so perfect together it rhymes.
So, I like this Nova guy.
forgetting about Javy so far!
Javy who?
BTW I want the Coke guy to kill the Pepsi guy in this commercial.
Agreed. I don’t like the Pepsi (Max) guy pulling those shenanigans. Simply unprofessional. Plus, Coke is better.
Bullshit.
Nintendo is better.
Yea, how is their guy being a dick supposed to make you want to buy their product?
I like Pepsi more than Coke and I still want the Coke buy to kick his ass.
I agree.
BG needs a new approach at the plate.
BG always takes 2 strikes and flat foots his swinging strike 3. I still like it better than a first pitch groundout to short and one gidp per game.
/Jeets’d
One thing that leads me to believe that the Nova readings are correct: We all know that Morrow sits around 94-96, and that’s where he’s been. So if the gun is right for Morrow, then you would expect it to be right for Nova.
Take away: Nova is pumped up right now.
BETEMIT!!!
Brandon Morrow is good at baseball.
This Brandon Marrow is pretty decent. I bet you could get a 30 year old middle reliever for this guy if you looked around hard enough
Do the Tampa Yankees have a beat writer?
Not as far as I know.
Lame. Am I missing anyone on the Twitter for the affiliates? I got MAshmore, Norris, Pimpsner, Foley, and the swbyankeesTT one.
” Not sure Buddy”
verypleasantman’d
well done sir.
IETC
Come on Cano! Do it again!
ahahahahaha Tex tripled.
Come on Flash, get excited. Not as ridiculous as Michael Kay, but ya gotta give us just a little bit more.
Flash comes from the Red Barber school of baseball broadcastiug.
A-Rod isn’t as good as that 3B playing RF out there.
/Bret’d
Wheels.
Bautista lulz.
Bautista never bobbled the ball. Mark is just crazy fast.
Cito Flabber Gaston.
That was…NOT(!!)…a good play Bautista.
/Borat’d
55 pitches through 3, I’ll take it.
Gardner’s zone swing percent is 44.6. How can that possibly be that low? I’m impressed.
It’s really too bad the Jays didn’t let Morrow stay where he belonged in the bullpen.
It’s really too bad the Jays didn’t let Morrow stay where he belonged in
the bullpenSeattle’s bullpen.Fixed.
Six Ks through 3? Damn, my MLB 10 The Show pitcher does that by the second.
That slider in on lefties is pretty ridiculous. I have no idea how the hell you’re supposed to get a bat on that thing.
Guess fastball and be right.
Morrow is so fucking filthy. Stop that shit. At least he’s thrown a lot of pitches.
Who has a better slider in the game right now, righty? Off the top of my head I can only think of Josh Johnson…but I don’t think his is even as filthy as Morrow.
He should bathe then.
2nd time through the order, big test for any rook.
Mo Damn, Tex is so good.
Robots please. Fucking insane.
boo that shit, Tex stayed on
OUT.
robot umps please.
robotumps
Ugh. I hate umpires. So much.
They helped us yesterday with that blown call at home.
Personally, I’m more of a “get it right” type of person. I enjoy it when it benefits us, don’t get me wrong, but I’d rather things be right.
That. I’d rather the umpires get things right than the umpires call 105809860968 incorrect calls against the Yankees.
incorrect calls FOR the Yankees*, sorry, to make my point.
Bad call there.
Tex got fired up. He probably crushes a fastball in his next AB.
http://assets.sbnation.com/ass.....Umpire.jpg (safe)
Have we played Chicago yet this year?
Back in May.
Surprised Joe got up for that vehement and passionate support of tex….
Girardi would have to take a few CC fastballs to the head in order to decide to leave the yankees for the cubs
Of course. Umpires 2, Yankees 1.
That was a pretty bad call. Worst part is Ump was in position and apparently is half blind.
Why throw hanging curves to that guy?
To be fair, I don’t think pitchers want to throw hanging curves to anyone. It just happens, sometimes.
Should have been a solo shot, but nothing the Yankees can’t come back from.
Why is he getting any pitch that’s middle and/or in? Just bounce it in the other batter’s box.
Look at that, Bautista’s 39th homer on the 39th pitch from Nova.
I SAID IT BEFORE YOU!
… in my head.
Damn this crazy fucker Bautista and his insane unsustainable hot streak.
Sustained it for about five months now…
We’ll see what he does next season. Maybe this is his “Brady Anderson meats Adrian Beltre” year.
WORST. PORN. EVER.
Is that like his 39th HR against the Yankees this year?
Anyone believe that he’s clean? I don’t.
/angry
Shrug
http://www.baseball-reference......da02.shtml
See 1973
Shrug back.
There are other UFO seasons. Boggs ’87, Campaneris ’70, Cash ’61 (less for the HRs than the overall hitting), Anderson ’96. They’ve been part of the game since there was a game, although we remember the extreme cases because they are extreme, and they are pretty rare. Some times there’s a clear answer looking back (expansion ’61, PEDs ’96), some cases not. We now live in a time where any sudden increase in hitting, especially on the HR side, will draw questions, and it is okay to consider PEDs as an option. In fact, to not consider it is a head-in-the-sand approach that allowed PEDs to go unchecked for so long.
It’s with us forever.
He’s been hanging that sucker all night. Someone was going to kill it.
Umps 2, Yankees 1. Whatever, it’s not insurmountable.
well that cost us a run so awesome
So I still don’t fully understand waivers. Since the Red Sox claimed Damon, unless the Tigers pull him back, the Sox have to take him right?
That’s how it goes.
he still has a no trade clause
Yes. The only other wrinkle is, if a player has an NTC with the team that claims him, he can block the deal and render both teams’ actions moot.
That’s what’s going on with Damon and Manny Ramirez as well.
I missed it. Did someone claim Manny ?
I think the Dodgers are considering putting him on waivers.
No, the Dodgers haven’t put him on waivers yet, but Olney says they’re expected to and he’ll be elsewhere by August 31st.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-.....id=5490103
I’ll say… the White Sox.
Manny and Ozzie? TOGETHER?
Plz 2 b revitalizing “The Club” for that…
Man, that will be the biggest and most hilarious mess ever.
Shit, Manny and Ozzie would probably get along smashingly.
Peas and carrots. They’re both crazy and they know it. Ozzie will let Manny hit and not get in his way, Manny will appreciate having a manager who leaves him alone.
Right, but the reality is those teams get added to the NTC because they are likely to select the player, so it gives him added leverage to possibly squeeze an extension out of the team that selects him. It doesn’t mean that he doesn’t want to play there, not at all.
I never implied that that was the case.
Talking to all readers, I do that a lot.
Copy.
If Damon doesn’t agree to the trade then the Tigers have to pull him back. When a team claims a player on waivers, then the two teams work on a trade. Yet it’s entirely possible the team that put the player on waivers can just say “He’s yours.” Then the claiming team has to take the player.
But once they pull him back, it’s irreversable. If they put Damon back on waivers a 2nd time after failing to make a deal, it’s ‘irrevocable waivers’ and any team can just take him and pay his salary, w/o giving up talent.
My guess is even if the Tigers and Sox couldn’t agree on a player, the Tigers might have just turned around and said “you own him” to save $2 million. The Sox would have to take him. I’m also guessing that Damon’s contract still means he could reject the deal.
Should be 1-1 at worst. Fuckin non-robot me-hating ump
Agreed, the foot was clearly on the bag. Great play by Tex.
Yo, Eduardo, stop bouncing the throws.
Had to predict taht, didn’t ya, bex?
She’s a witch! Burn her!
(cries)
Nunez has a cannon.
Keep stylin all the way to the golf course in October, Jose. Classless.
+1
39 homeruns wow. I wonder if we’ll ever see another season like that out of him.
(goes out on limb)
Nope.
It’s crazy, someone like Beltre has been all over the map but it’s not impossible to imagine his 2010 season. Just don’t get it.
He was probably never as bad as he was as a Mariner. Safeco is where offense goes to die.
He did have a godly season in Dodger Stadium which is also where offense goes to die (though not as much as Safeco). And he’s been insanely good on the road this year – it’s not just Fenway. I think it’s more likely it’s just a really good year. Does he have some crazy BABIP going on or something?
.340, his career avg is probly right around .300
Something tells me no.
When did Manny get traded to the Blue Jays.
/act like you’ve hit a HR before you jackass. It’s a fucking rookie pitching.
What’d he do?
a big ol bat flip after he hit the ball with a little skip at the end.
calm down most of the yanks have little things they do when they jack one that isn’t exactly top self in the sportsmanship department
Cano’s got the Griffey HR act down pat.
Hell Cano even admired a double the other day.
Shit, if I was Jose Bautista, I’d be grabbing my nuts and gesticulating wildly after every homer, because Mo only knows how many more of these I’ll get to hit before my deal with the devil expires.
i gotcha. but dude’s in his first big league start. Just put the bat down and run the bases. We don’t need no flip and a skip.
I. Hate. Flash. So. Much.
I was glad to see Flash made the “Things Yankee fans hate” list on Zells.
Can we just officially all agree that Bautista is cheating?
It’s ridiculous the number of homers/distance/swagger he has compared to what he was before
and hes coming up with Mark McGwire mechanics excuse
Not without proof, that would be ridiculous.
Can we just officially all agree that Bautista is cheating?
No.
Even independent of steroids/PEDs/etc., sometimes hitters/pitchers just have great seasons where they’re in the zone all year long (and then it disappears).
1973
…the fuck?
Yep. They used to be called ‘career years’ before the steroid era.
Career years where you go from 13 HRs to 45?
Nah, its not at all odd to see a journeyman increase his HR total by 243%
</sarcasm>
It’s not unheard of either
Just because a player goes from barely making a roster, to becoming the leagues top power hitter, all in one year in his late 20′s, doesn’t mean he’s on steroids. That’s just stupid talk.
/David Ortiz
IETC
87mph change for strikes from Nova is nice. less pitches than Morrow-not terrible by any means so far
Jose Bautista leading the league in homers personally offends me.
Friggin’ robbed. It’s a reason they play and officiate in America’s cap (Canada).
Conclusion, robot umpires. Forget replay.
Via @riddering–If this was the little league World Series, the umpires could have reviewed that call at first.
LLWS at least recognizes their umps suck unlike MLB.
They have the replay and have overturned at least 2 calls from what I’ve seen.
LLWS > MLB
so he has more than found it great just great
Why are there no Indy Car drivers in an ad for the IZOD Indy Car Series?
#thatdoesn’tmakesense
Why is the IZOD brand still in existence? Who the hell wears IZOD?
White people with popped collars on jetskis in the Caribbean?
I sit corrected.
Of all the nights for the umps to cost the Yankees a run…not insurmountable, but they’ve got their F- lineup out there tonight
This iO commercial is Ron Dibble bait.
I was thinking the same thing.
He probably wrote the script.
Did you guys hear what he said about Strasburg? What an asshole.
(“Suck it up, kid. Go pitch. Period.”)
Is he serious with this shit? Why does he still have a job?
I remember in spring training 2001, Dibble basically said he’d eat his hat (or something like that) if Ichiro hit .300 in the Majors with that swing.
lol, yeah, that was great. Shows how completely out of touch he is suggesting that somehow it was his decision.
Odd statements coming from someone who
a) never made a major league start, and even more importantly…
b) threw 26.1 innings after the age of 29 (and none after 31) because his arm exploded
Seattle up 1-0 over Gomer Pyle Lackey in the 5th
Jed Lowrie made an error on the scoring play and Lackey threw his hands up and yelled something at him. I guess when you have a 5 ERA and make 20 mil a year you can do those things. Its why he’s such a competitor and bulldog.
How about no more rolling curves.
Good fastball Good change. Needs to work on the curve.
not to dwell but they should dust Bautista his next AB I know they won’t but they should
Does Overbay seriously have “Jeremy” by Pearl Jam as their at bat song? What the hell is wrong with you?
*his
They used to play “Better Man” for Betemit.
Wow that’s an AWFUL at-bat song o_O
Not that I’m a huge fan of the song…but why’s it such a bad at-bat song??
..maybe the topic?
It’s about a kid that goes on a shooting spree, no?
The song is essentially about an emotionally disturbed child killing himself. Why would you want that as your AB song?
Haha yeah that would be a good reason. Never bothered to listen to the lyrics much I guess.
Most major leaguers don’t pick their walkup music, but who knows.
I was thinking the same thing. Seriously. Great, but absolutely depressing song. Who wants to come up to that?
You might have an outside shot an argument for using the song if your first name is Jeremy. Otherwise, it just doesn’t make sense.
I saw CC pitch for the first time yesterday and love that he comes up to Biggie. So appropriate.
Interesting too since CC grew up on the West Coast during the whole East Coast–West Coast battle.
Nova’s changeup about same speed as javy’s fb. Throws it 3-1-impressive.
Less curves, more changes!
second that
thirded
Nice changeups in hitter’s counts for the strikeout.
Yes Sir!
nice!
change!
Score: Yanks 1, Jays 1, Umps 1. Advantage Jays. Cmon Meals, let’s get some boarderline ball calls!
Amazing. How can the Little League get it right when MLB clearly values degenertive old man eyes as opposed to getting the call right replay. I’m still fired up over that!
Nice sequence to end that AB against Overbay.
Nova has a lot of weapons. Different ballgame if he had a feel for the curveball tonight. I also didn’t expect this kind of velocity. You might not need all that much deception if you can get it up to 97.
The only bad thing is he has no deception. He could be a #5 starter for quite a few AL teams and almost a #4 on all NL teams. Hopefully, Nova goes out and shows some good stuff and good results.
Trade bait. A lot of teams will be enamored with his stuff.
I must admit, Derek looks youthful and athletic sitting on the bench. When he’s in the field or at the plate, he looks old and slow.
That’s because in the regular world, which includes sitting in the dugout, he is a young and athletic man. When he’s out in the field, he’s a 36-year-old shortstop.
Robbie: Stay the hell away Eduardo, I’ve seen what happens when you try to throw the ball to first.
im likeing nova…hes come far since not even being good rule 5 material
The Rogers Centre didnt put out their “A” lineup tonight either judging by the waitresses they have working behind home plate tonight.
I seriously believe that the Yankees need another hitter.
I don’t know if it’s Manny or not. But with all the injuries and the inability of our rookies to hit like the Red Sox rookies, I just feel insecure
Can Manny play 3B/SS/OF?
Team doesn’t need another hitter, just need A-rod and Puma to get healthy.
I know that but we dont have a 10 game lead in the division as a buffer
We have a 7 game in the L column lead on a playoff spot. We’re in good shape. If the team goes 23-15 in this last stretch they’ll win 100 games. They don’t need to go on a tear as much as you think. Just win series and tread water.
That doesn’t mean we need another hitter, though.
Yeah, why can’t we be like the, what, six-and-a-half-games out Red Sox! ;_;
They have grit and guts, don’t make fun of them you fucking bastard!!! They are going to make the playoffs based on that you know.
We don’t need another hitter. We picked up two at the deadline. We’re thin in the lineup now because two guys are on the DL purely because we are thinking about October. If we were 1 game up on the wild card, neither Berkman nor Arod would be on the DL. Barring setbacks, they will both be back the first day they are eligible. Once that happens, we won’t need any hitters.
That sounds like a “you” problem.
/dick’d
However it is accurate.
The “you” problem part, not what he was saying.
It kind of is because I hate trolls and they are reaaly hard to ignore
Wait, who’s a troll? What are you saying?
Trolls are bastards who come on chat boards and mess with you. THey are all over the ESPN board
… I have no idea what’s going on anymore. Are we on the ESPN boards?
Isn’t this RAB?
I seriously believe that the Yankees need another hitter.
We’re gonna go trade for two in August. Their names are “Alex Rodriguez” and “Lance Berkman”. We’re also in talks to add a third named “Nick Johnson”, but that’s still speculative.
Nick Johnson’s not a hitter. He’s a walker
Walking is still better than making an out.
Jed Lowrie, the only good thing about the 2010 Red Sox.
/PeteAbe’d
Who would be Cano’s competition for the Gold Glove ? Unless, of course, they give it to Pedroia for his ground balls in chair technique
UZR has Orlando Hudson (8.8) as the only one ahead of Cano (3.2) among qualified AL second basemen
PastasittingPedroia
Let’s go bottom turd of the lineup!
Nice at-bat by Pena, regardless of outcome.
Agreed. Same goes to Cervelli. Working counts is fine at this point.
With a vet batting, that pitch to Pena is probably called a ball.
Morrow has a ridiculous slider this year, I seem to remember his fastball being much better when he came up in Seattle
not that his fastball still isnt great
He’s always had great stuff. When he’s on, he dominates.
He’s their AJ Burnett, the guy with TEH ELECTRIC STUFF!!!!
I don’t remember Molina moving the glove so much after a catch while on the Yankees.
since when does cervelli wear batting gloves?
He started a few weeks ago.
i guess i have been oblivious as this is the first time i noticed it. wow. lol.
Jays have a great staff, great power. Why are they in 4th place?
Because they’re in the AL East.
They’re 5th worst in all of baseball in OBP.
Not making outs at a high rate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else
Bullpen sucks, and while their offense hits a ton of homers, they’re actually at the bottom of the league in OBP. Less baserunners = less runs = less wins.
what AJ should be
Actually, this is what AJ was against us when he was a Jay. One of the reasons we gave him so much money.
I was thinking more like Joba. Mid-90′s fastball, strikeout slider. Although Morrow’s pure stuff is better than Joba’s.
At least he had to use 13 pitches for his strikeouts.
Yeesh, nine strikeouts through five.
morrow is what i though joba would be…or should i say was for a period of time
/2008′d
If Clay wins the Cy Young I am going on some sort of spree.
BABIP: .265
FIP: 3.6
xFIP: 4.2
tERA: 3.8
tRA+: off the charts
What the hell was that, Brett.
If he’s going to do that he might as well do the ‘ole Baltimore chop.
how could a guy that fast not have learned how to bunt ? Im sure every coach he’s ever had has tried to teach him
at least you didn’t strike out
barf
I think i would have preferred that, it would have taken at least 3 pitches.
YES voters fail
I vote for the guy who steals the most laptops.
I missed the results. What was it?
They voted for Price. Which is better than Buchholz I guess?
Thanks. And I agree with Price.
The text poll question was “Are People Dumb?” The choices were “Yes” or “No”.
“Yes” won.
it’s not the first time
I can’t tell if that’s a shot at Price, me, or the voters.
The voters.
I propose some broadcasting roster moves:
Kenny – full time play by play
Jack Curry – called up to the booth
Flash – optioned to the sidelines
Call up Bob Lorenz too. Nancy Newman can handle the studio
Can Nancy get under the table faster than Suzyn? If yes, put her in the booth!
Curry and Lorenz need to see more booth time.
You mean Kenny, the same guy who couldn’t get Shin Soo Choo’s name correctly for a full series?
Nova’s command is pretty spotty, but he sure looks like his ceiling is higher than “back of the rotation”
Command is what separates MLB-caliber pitchers from everyone else, though.
No deception and no real put out pitch will keep him from going above a back of the rotation starter, but he is a guy that could keep a job for awhile.
I wonder what Canadian Pizza tastes like.
They make it on toast and use goat cheese. Frickin’ Cannucks
Too many fly balls for Nova, methinks.
Five total in the game, three in that one inning.
N to the izzo V to the izzay
Nicely done, Ivan. Keep it going.
Nice inning there. Other than the hanger Nova has done pretty well.
It wasn’t one bad pitch, he was hanging a bunch of them early. He was lucky to get away with some of those pitches in the 1st inning, and with the bases loaded that could have got ugly.
But he’s really settled in and done a nice job since then. You can’t kill a guy for having jitters in his MLB debut
/justfortommie’d
Party pooper.
if that’s what his good curve-ball looks like I’m in love.
Nova’s doin a great job. We need to get this kid a win somehow
Really found the feel for the curve now.
65 pitches through 5, let him go 7 and/or 100 and call it a night. Nice job so far.
I loved the way the grounds crew haule ass off the field when the argument was goin on…..hilarious
Escobar just looks like a douche. Probably doesn’t help his cause.
http://tinyurl.com/2dj3qof
Rock on, blue.
Escobar probably shouldn’t have said/done anything.
That being said, umps who toss people out for arguing is yet another example of idiot umpires putting themselves in the center of the game. He looked at you and “showed you up”? I don’t give a shit. Nobody cares. Move the hell on.
NFL and NBA players argue and plead and drop F-bombs on their sports’ referees all the time. They turn their head and ignore it. You should do the same, MLB umps.
Get over yourselves.
NBA refs do not turn their heads and ignore it, far from it. NBA refs are just as bad if not worse than MLB umps.
Okay, fair enough. But they don’t toss people as frequently as MLB umps do. And at least they issue a technical first as a warning, it’s not a zero-tolerance policy.
In fairness both sports have umps/refs who are more tolerant and not as bad as others obviously.
It does seem though that NFL refs are the most fair in terms of player ejections of all the sports. They do on occasion throw 15 yard unsportsman-like conduct flags but mostly you never see players ejected for just arguing with refs.
Yeah, NBA Refs should never be complimented for any reason. The officiating is SO bad that when the FBI proved that one of the leagues top officials was fixing games the general reaction was “huh, makes sense”
Touché.
I amend my statement and only wish MLB umps to emulate NFL referees. You all have called me out on my poor claim.
Withdrawn.
Should I go get him?
Nah, Lets see how he reacts
Um, NBA refs give technical fouls for those actions all the time
I love you Swish but… that’s a strike.
That’s a strike.
Holy lord Morrow is sick.
swisher really does really try to walk a little too hard sometimes… a guy who can hit HR’s like that should be a little less afraid to swing at a borderline pitch
That was a perfect back-up 2 seamer on the black, at the knees. He would have missed if he swung at that, maybe beat it into the dirt if he was lucky.
He has the highest O-Swing% of his career by a lot this year and has cut his walk rate significantly.
Cmon Tex!
This is just awful good pitching at this point. Please Cano!
He’s like AJ Part II. Dominate, suck, dominate, suck. We keep getting him on dominate nights.
AJ’s pattern is actually dominate, dominate, suck, rinse and repeat.
I like the fact that both of tomorrow’s journeyman starters are sporting a 4.76 ERA on the year.
Rzepczynski is 24 and making his 16th big league start–a bit early to call him a journeyman
Meh.
Wow, tough to find good ball boys in Canada…..
…is it too late to rephrase that?
OH SHIT STEVE LEFT ME AN OPENING
(TWHS)
(buries head in shame)
/points
/laughs
That was a good call ump
Same pitch to swisher is called a strike. I hate inconsistency.
Good lord, I thought that “K” girl was going to fall.
How did Cano even foul that ball off? Dude’s locked in.
Morrow is a beast. No question.
We have a beast too. I’m sure you know his name.
CC!
Atta boy! *gives you cookies*
I also would like some of your cookies, Kit.
/doubleentendre’d
Too many strike outs. Frick.
Attaboy Robbie. Might get him out of the game by the 7th now.
Nice job Robbie. Hopefully they get him over 100 pitches this inning then go to town on the bullpen.
Tag one Jorge!
Spec-freakin’-tacular at-bat by Robinson.
Great AB! got that pitch count up too
Yes Jorge!
Fuck yeah Posada!
HIP HIP!
To the HOF!
For one hit? Why not, it worked with Mazeroski
Hip fucking hip!
YESSSSSSSSS
Jorge !!!!
Business: we’re in it.
Sado getting it done, lets get one more for Ivanova
Hip hip!!
Hottie behind homeplate
A fan or a Blue Jay employee? I remember them having a real cute girl back there earlier in the year.
Nah shes a fan I think, sitting next to some old dude.
You like Molina, Esteban?
GET A ROOM YOU PANSY HOMOS
/IronHorse’d
Cano may have just saved the Yankees from an additional inning of Morrow and Posada gave the Yanks new life.
Jorge!!!
Jorge Po and Robbie Cano!!!!
That’s my boy.
Hip Hip…
JORGE!
Woo, Jorge!
What’s tough is we can’t pinch hit for anyone in the bottom of the lineup.
Totally sit up by cano and Jorge delivers nice work.
This is the part where some yankee “fans” would say AJ has a 2 cent head.
Steal home, Jorge!
#12consecutivesteals
Morrow doesn’t like Granderson.
Wow Curtis… that was a hanger dude, pull the trigger!
Easier said than done. Morrow’s power stuff throws your timing off.
You got to think that is the last inning for Morrow.
Gotta protect there, Curtis!
1-2-3 bottom of the inning please!
Oh fuck. Please don’t guys.
Roid rage….
Hell yeah Nova, lol.
He’s a rookie. C’mon, Jose. Seriously.
HOLY SHIT I LOVE IVANOVA
Second that !!!!
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
That did it…I LOVE NOVA !!!!!
Umps wrecking games.
Bautista is being a bitch.
Thanks for saving my team Bautista especially in the HR category but fuck you.
These jerk-offs always get uppity in August.
Damn your lack of YES, SUNY cable, damn you!
Umm, please dont tell me your talking about the cable that the SUNY schools use. I go up to Cortland next week, and this would be really deflating…Although, at orientation, I was watching the game on YES on the TV in the lounge, so maybe Cortland uses different cable…
I’m in Brooklyn. The cable they give us doesn’t have YES or MLB Network, and I’m in Brooklyn so mlb.tv is no good either. Sterling and Waldman is all I have. This is my second day back and I already can’t stand them
Ivan Nova: my new favorite player.
Jose Bautista: huge douche/gigantic pussy.
And fuck Jerry Meals for being such a pansy. Get back behind the plate and stop making a situation out of nothing.
LOL @ Nova starting a fight in his first big league start. That said, I would rather not have fights…
bautista started it… no way the kid tried to hit him intentionally. and by the way he mouthed off to the kid, he should have deserved it
No need for anyone to get suspended here.
I don’t mind that at all.
I want to see CC crush some people.
I would love that. I feel like once they see CC they’ll be like ‘We should probably back the fuck up now.’ But no, no bench clearing brawls right now.
CC and Mike Harkey. I feel like they could take an entire starting nine by themselves.
CC alone can eat 1,000 Dustin Pedroia’s.
CC alone can also eat 1,000 cookies made by Dustin Pedroia.
Mike Harkey is a monster of a dude too, so I wouldn’t doubt that for a second.
kyle farnsworth says hi
I want Posada to punch someone in the head again.
now he should really drill that no-class bully
wheres kyle farnsworth when you need him?
Or Shelley Duncan
or Darryl Strawberry?
Graeme Lloyd
Or Big Frank Howard from the coaches box
/olskool’d
That’s the way we do it in Scranton baby!!!
http://meggancowan.files.wordp.....n-mike.png
Batflip that, douche.
My cable just went out — what happened? Nova threw upstairs to Bautista, Bautista took exception?
Toronto fans need to STFU. That wasn’t close.
Well, it was up at his head.
and his head is giant from all the HGH
his swollen head has actually started to bring baseballs into orbit around it, it’s just simply obeying the laws of physics
Those in glass houses, Yankees fan.
In Nova’s defense, Bautista’s head was in the way of his pitch.
Nova won that one, bitch.
/unlady like
/coolladylike
Pride Filled Fail by Bautista.
Hey. Get off the edge of his mound.
BAUTISTA RAN ACROSS HIS MOUND!!!
DID YOU SEE THAT? DRILL THE SONAFABITCH!!!!
Shelley Duncan would had been perfect in this situation.
I fuckin love Nova now!! BTW gotta say if there are 3 players on the Yankees who probably couldnt beat up a fly its Cano, Arod and Jeter. lol
Nova just looks Ghetto. Kinda like King Felix.
Cano is a sweetheart, Derek probably can’t get involved because of his captain status (set a good example and all that), and Alex is too precious to get into a fight. I’m sure out of those three, Cano will be the one to school someone though.
Bautista walked on Nova’s mound!111!!!1 BEAT HIS ASS!
great over swing and he can sit his punk ass down
Postgame should be fun!
I would have loved to see Nova go inside again and see Bautista charge the mound, only to see Nova deck his ass a la Porcello v Youkillis last season.
How was that a single?
Btw where was Mo during all that? I’m pretty sure he didn’t even bother running out. I think he was out back sipping tea.
meditatin’ and shit yo!
Doing a Canali shoot. Will be finished in the 8th inning..
Heh.
I still remember during that one game at Fenway when Beckett basically went completely nuts, throwing at people with the bases loaded, and tensions were really rising at one point (I think when he drilled Jeter in the back with the bases loaded?). A-Rod was barking fucking asshole and the like. It didn’t lead to a fight, but people were pissed. And anyway, there in the dugout, not looking too pleased, was… Mariano.
I was like OH SHIT NOW THE RED SOX ARE GONNA GET KILLED WITH LIGHTNING.
Haha, Bex. I would be completely pissed too. I’m sure Mo could kick someone’s ass if he wasn’t religious.
LOL @ religious people not being violent.
that seemed a bit premature, no?
Wow, that’s a quick hook.
WHY?
WHY?
WTF?
To me that’s a quick hook there by Joe G.
Meh. MLB debut, throwing harder than usual all night. He was pretty amped up, those are stressful innings.
For the lulz, A-Rod makes that play. Wait why is Nova getting taken out?
What the fuck, Girardi?
What the hell is the point of using Nova and a B lineup if you’re going to take him out after 70 pitches in a tie game? This makes no fucking sense, Joe.
He’s a rookie and you don’t want to overexpose him? And he just almost started a brawl? And we have an excellent bullpen?
(I thought it was a bit of a quick hook as well, but I see some form of logic behind it.)
First one, fair point. He’s been starting at SWB though, not like he’s not used to the stress on the arm.
I don’t think the high pitch was intentional. Hilarious, but not intentional. And I’d prefer not to overextend our excellent bullpen whenever possible.
Good job, Nova.
Why pull him so early?
Not a fan of pulling Nova here…
Your taking him out because he gave up an infield single? Does Girardi get paid by the managerial decision or something?
I think he’s more getting pulled for the whole “throwing at the head of the guy who you just gave up a homer to”.
That’s a dumb reason to pull a pitcher, especially when it was not really that close. And he ended up getting him to fly out.
This is where you and I (and Joe Girardi) disagree. It’s not really dumb to take a pitcher out of the game who might be a bit more emotional than you want him to be in a certain situation. Especially in his first ever major league start.
True. The kid looked immature pretending to be a ‘gansta’ (while he conveniently doesn’t have to step into the batters box himself). Real tough guy.
Clap for ‘em clap for ‘em eyyy
I dunno if a star was born but I’m glad a Yankees pitcher finally knocked an opposing player on his ass, is that why he got the hook?
WTF? Nova has 73 pitches. Considering no one is giving the Yankees length I don’t know why you unnecessarily go to the pen now.
This pitching change seems a little … premature.
Damn right!
It’s justifiable, though.
I agree.
yep.. cuz our other 4 starters usually give us great length
Another start in Chicago. If Nova punched us in the face, we would enjoy it.
/stay thirsty’d
I’m sorry but that’s bull shit.
73 pitches!
I think you need to step back and look at it with a little more perspective. Girardi had some reasons to pull him that make sense.
Big picture.
Big picture:
our bullpen has been GREAT.. the chances of them remaining so in the coming month(s) when we need them will decrease with an increased workload..
Agreed, we shouldn’t overtax the bullpen. But if Nova needs to get pulled right there (and I believe he did), he needs to get pulled and you deal with the consequences.
We have a strategy but sometimes pressing issues force you to alter the strategy for an individual game.
Who was it that I said looked like a pigeon? ‘Cause Damaso Marte totally does, too.
I dunno if it was you but V-Mart totally looks like a pigeon.
Yeah, I probably said it. I’ve always thought that.
great night for the kid, i would have given a B+– but sending bautista flying in the dirt makes it an A-
In two games when our bullpen is tired, we can remember this move.
but your starting pitchers will have gotten extra rest, which they definitely need
Seriously Joe that’s fucking stupid. Let the kid save your bullpen. Terrible managing.
yep
so agree!
give him a break, his first start and it was weird and stressful. the bullpen is hot right now, you gotta go with them if you want to win a tight game like this
I thought we didn’t want to over-extend our bullpen. If Nova is pitching well and throwing very few pitches, why put unnecessary strain on the pen? Curious Joe.
Bench clearing brawls would be a lot more fun if there were more brawling and less bench clearing.
Nova looked good, shoulda kept him in. He looked locked in.
LMAO at Jose Bautista. What a pussy.
BTW, Cano’s reaction was priceless. I wish I could have taken a picture of it. He was just laughing at how retarded that was of Bautista.
Now, the Blue Jays are going to hit us, and a brawl will break out, and people will get suspended all because Jose Bautista is a fucking pussy.
Maybe Nova’s pitch wasn’t an accident and Girardi is punishing him.
that would be…
no
I think the pitch and pulling Nova were related, but I don’t think Nova was intentionally throwing up and in.
Starting pitcher pulled at 70 pitches in a tie game?
Girardi wants the Chicago job a little early I see…..
Keep dreaming. The Yanks will have to collapse 07/08 Mets style for that to happen. Girardi will be managing this team for the next 10 years, the brass loves him.
… Yeah. I see
This.
All.
Over.
micro-managing
no reason to take the kid out
Did Logan comeover in the Granderson deal?
Vazquez deal.
Vasquez deal.
Javy.
Thanks all.
Jinx
Yeah gotta say this decision was a bit overmanaged.
reminds me of something Joe Torre would do. “At 3pm i decided that I wanted 5 innings out of Nova, and then we’d go to the lefty-lefty match up”
What the hell are you talking about, Torre is sleeping at 3pm.
/unnecessary’d
and 4pm, and 5pm and sometimes in the middle of games
Well at least Boone is getting the job done.
Umm, really, Joe? Really? Im sorry, I havent questioned you alot this year, but I mean, come on. Nova was solid after that 1st inning and only had 73 pitches! What ever happened to not overworking the bullpen?
Ugh sometimes Girardi baffles me.
The only thing I can think of is that Nova was on a pitch count
Ivan Nova is a rookie who’s been throwing really hard all game and just threw over the head of the guy who hit a homer off of him, almost igniting a brawl.
Think about that for a moment and then evaluate Joe’s decision again.
Meh.
I can see the logic, but I didn’t see anything that indicated Nova had lost his composure or his stuff. The move worked out in the end, so I’m not complaining, but I would have enjoyed seeing how he worked through that inning.
Maybe for a first major-league start, 75 pitches (or closest batter to that) was the magic number.
Other possibility – the first inning was definitely high-stress. Maybe Nova was getting gassed. The pitch to Bautista might have been a clue
Good job Boone. To the binder boys!!
We can say what we want about that pitching change, but those three sliders were straight filth from Logan.
No one’s questioning how good the bullpen has been, but these are bullets that should have been saved for another day. I thought the whole point of bringing Nova up was to give people rest?
It was. But if Nova’s pitching like a hothead, sometimes you have to alter your plan mid-game.
His team is the middle of a rough stretch without off days, he has Moseley going tomorrow, he decides this is a good day to get 4.2 innings out of the bullpen when it’s not needed?
Sorry, don’t see how one can defend that.
…he decides this is a good day to get 4.2 innings out of the bullpen when it’s not needed?
It’s never a good day to have the bullpen get 4.2 innings, but he felt it was needed because Nova needed to not be in the game and to be sitting on the bench next to Damaso Marte getting talked to about how to be a professional.
Was Logan warming up before that pitch to Bautista?
Not to my knowledge, no.
It’ll only be 4.2 innings if they go to extra innings (Nova went 5.1). Also, don’t they have an extra pitcher up now?
Yes, Nova.
Perhaps Girardi wanted to pull Nova to hopefully prevent a Yankee from getting hit.
That too.
Look, I’m positive Joe would have loved to have Nova throw 100 pitches and give us great length, but that Nova/Bautista episode changed the calculus a bit, and sometimes you have to abandon Plan A and deal with the consequences.
If a Jay wanted to hit a Yankee, I don’t think Nova being in the game or not would matter. Those “payback” hits sometime come days or weeks later…
If Nova stays in the game and another pitch goes up and in on someone, it increases the chances of retaliation.
I think you can tell from my previous comments that I agree with you. I’m just saying, great job by Logan.
Clearly, this was so Logan could make Lind look silly.
Come on.
Nothing wrong with those results.
Watch, people are going to start throwing shit at Logan.
Did Nova pitch well enough to give himself another start or will he just be a long reliever for when AJ and Vazquez pitch.
I think he and Moseley are so closely lined up for a reason.
True, but Vazquez has been quite awful the last few starts I would not be surprised to see Yankees give him time off to straighten out Vazquez. However, Nova impressed me today. Too many pitches up in the zone, but at least he has enough stuff where his location does not have to be pinpoint every pitch.
And Mosely going for you tomorrow.
You idiot!
i’m sorry I never ? Joe but I can’t help this one.
WOW!
It’s not nearly as idiotic as you’re making it seem, mustang. It makes perfect sense, depending on how Joe evaluated what was in Nova’s head.
What he is a fucking psychiatrist now?
look at his stuff, pitch count and tomorrow
Baseball is simple sometimes Joe makes it hard
/boversimplify’d
Yes sometimes its that easy.
No, it’s not.
They need to get robot umps and robot players. Then it would be that easy.
Wow, that really blew up in Joe’s face.
It didn’t but now he plays mix and match the rest of the night.
Why waste the pen when you got Mosely starting tomorrow?
He’s going to use Joba, Robertson and Mo the rest of the night. None of them will be more likely to pitch because Mosely will go tomorrow. Gaudin and Mitre are the only relievers that need to be sure are fresh tomorrow.
I don’t think they’ve let Mosley throw more than 75 pitches in a game either
Moseley’s an experienced,, veteran pitcher who as a sinkerballer is likely to give you depth.
Nova’s a kid, making his MLB debut who was throwing 3 MPH faster than usual all night. He was obviously amped up, just almost started a brawl.
Nova’s a kid, making his MLB debut who was throwing 3 MPH faster than usual all night. He was obviously amped up, just almost started a brawl.
Repeated for emphasis.
Not to nitpick or anything, but it’s not Nova’s MLB debut. They said it was on the radio too…
Good point, thanks for the correction. It’s his starting debut, though.
…debut as a starter. Happy?
No more Morrow!!! Party time!
I don’t like the move at all, it smacks of the “burn out the good relievers and lose the game with Gaudin in the tenth” road game
Ramiro doesn’t want Nunez to steal his job
Whoa Whoa WHoa, Ramiro with two hits in a night?!
Something about Rakin’ Ramiro Pena?
John Flaherty: impressed by 16 RBIs.
Well for a former hitter like Flaherty, thats great in his eyes.
He’s proud of his clutch hits.
We have to win this game because Pena got a hit.
Gotta say I love that Nova was challenging Bautista. That’s what you do when a hitter is too comfortable at the plate. You throw inside. If it hits him, it hits him. That’s the mentality you have to have on the mound. Good to see that type of attitude out of Nova in his first ever start in the bigs.
saying that Joe G pulled him because of that pitch better not be true. How passive can a manager be?
You have to be passive when you’re in a pennant race. You don’t want players ejected, suspended or injured. Especially not when you already have injuries to certain players on your team. It was the best move. It worked out. Let it go, please.
I will stick with nick on this one. You don’t have to be passive in a pennant race. Disagree. I thought nova was saying “I wasn’t trying to hit you”. He said the same thing 3 times.
He said “It wasn’t fucking near you” three times. He never said he wasn’t trying to hit him.
whatever Tommie…..Ivan can pitch inside to a guy who dives in to the ball. Happens to Jeter with his 9HR’s all the time…Bautista’s a jerk who beat us…
Here’s something else:
I went back and watched that Bautista PA again. On the first pitch of the PA, Nova threw the pitch and then stood in place and pivoted to watch the ball Bautista hit fly foul into the stands.
On the next pitch, he threw at Bautista’s head and then took three steps off the mound towards the plate while looking at Bautista. That, in addition to the pitch itself, is what set Bautista off.
I’m sure Joe saw that as well. The more I see of this, the more I agree with Joe’s quick hook.
Who said Pena Sucks…well I did but still…
“As a left handed hitter, he really is not bad”
-John Sterling
Pena as LHB, 2010: .083/.115/.083
Those are his right numbers
he’s .234/.270/.266 (going into tonight) as a lefty.
Good call
/DFAs self
Oh good, Cervelli’s up.
come onnnnn reverse jinx.
Ramiro “Mendoza-line” Pena…
You can only hope to contain him.
WTF… blue jays commentators just said that Yanks are so good in hitting in RISP
Yeah… we actually are.
eh, without looking at any other teams numbers for comparison, .263/.364/.434 is not that great
Well I guess they have a 112 OPS+ with RISP, so I guess they’re better than average.
Wasn’t there just a big debate about this?
Was there? I don’t remember or didn’t see it.
I believe that was how we’re 8 sac flies behind the leaders in sac flies, proof that Girardi can’t manage because he doesn’t tell his batters to sacrifice enough
They’re hitting .268/.349/.438 overall (second in the AL), their RISP line would also be second in the AL.
Really? That looks great for a team stat.
On second thought, you’re right, that does look pretty decent.
6 out of 30 teams in OPS with RISP. #1 in RBI and Runs.
The entire league as a whole (Yankees included) hits .259/.343/.400 with RISP
I didn’t look at the numbers but I’m willing to bet that other teams are even worse with RISP.
i think that was a kfc commercial
wait cerveli wasnt wearing batting gloves this time up…
….
Nothing good ever happens with Cervelli at the plate. Ever. Seriously, when is enough enough with this guy? When his OBP finally dips below .300?
yeah enough already, it’s time they kicked him out of the no-homers club already
Terrible DP.
Big thread tonight.
Nova pitched as well as I expected. We should all be pleased with a 2 run, 5.1 inning start.
Fun fact: Ramiro Pena has 24 hits on the season. The Yanks are 14-4 in games in which Pena has a hit.
And the placeholders remind us why they are placeholders.
That sequence is why the Yanks need another hitter. Call up Montero just do something. THe bench is awful
Why the urgency with Montero? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, he took time to adjust to AAA pitching, it will probably take him time to adjust to Major league pitching. Flailing at balls will not be useful to anyone. This line up and defense is a temporary fix for a not severe problem. Tomorrow Derek will be in the line up and Cervelli won’t.
I know but these games are so crucial
They’re all crucial, and yet they’re also not crucial at the same time (because there’s so many of them).
I also believe that is a problem for baseball. The long season doesn’t work in a society that wants results quickly.
If it’s all about October, let’s get to October
This doesn’t make sense.
What I mean is that it is a what have you done for me lately society . Every game is scrutinized and every game can be seen. If these games dont matter why should we cover them ad nauseum
For the second time tonight:
That sounds like a “you” problem.
That’s what’s nice about baseball. You don’t have to get all strung out on one game. There’s always tomorrow (until the last day of the season).
They’re not that crucial. They’re important, but they won’t decide our fate immediately, here and now. Bringing up someone who is not fully developed as a player will not benefit the player or the team.
I’m still not convinced that the poor start wasn’t related to his broken hand from last year. He completely sucked in the Venezuelan winter league last year, too….
Interesting point. Not sure why I hadn’t thought of that.
I can’t tell you if it is related or not, but the fact of the matter is, that it takes time to adjust to pitching either way. The Yankees are the prime example of that. Good pitching will confuse any major league hitter. If it’s pitching you’ve never seen before, especially with talented veteran pitchers who know how to mix pitches and get you out, you’re not going to go on a tear. You’re not going to hit as well as you’d like to. I like Montero as much as everyone else. Believe me. But I’m also aware of the fact that he’s young, he’s still has some skills to work on and improve, and if he’s going to be on this team, I will not accept a sub par performance. I expect great things out of him, and I would like him to get the experience, the necessary skills, and the confidence to own as many pitchers as possible.
No. We’ll be fine when ARod and Berkman return. No need to panic.
Hey if they send Nova down, can they bring him back up when the rosters expand or do they have to wait the 15 (I think it’s 15) days?
I am not saying they will, should, or need to send Nova down, but do you think they would bring up Romulo or Albie as a bullpen saver as the counter move? That may explain Nova’s quick hook. I don’t quite agree or think this is the case though.
It’s 10 days and I believe they have to wait.
Just pulled up the game and thought I was watching Major League: Who are these guys?
Who are these fuckin guys?
FTFY
wow…this is actually a fairly big spot for Joba.
Joba Chamberin IS Goose Gossage
/Mike Francesa
I don’t get nervous when Joba comes into a game anymore. This is improvement.
/zen’d
Nice try, Swish.
Your weak “Yankees suck” chants do not impress me, Canadians.
Were they chanting “YOU DID STEROIDS!” before or did only I hear that? Who the heck are they chanting that at, anyway?
I have no idea. I didn’t hear it, but they’re Canadian, so by default, not intelligent. No, I’m kidding. I wasn’t actually listening, so I have no idea. If they did, then who in the hell were they chanting that at…
Bautista?
/Obvious’d
Obviously Brett Gardner.
Someone has got to update Flaherty on Cervelli’s numbers. Flaherty keeps saying Cerv can “handle the bat.”
I’m sure he can handle the bat. He just can’t hit with it.
Joba looks thinner…
You smoking. Dude is fat.
I laughed.
eliminating the krill and plankton works wonders…
My Brother as I walk into the house: It’s 2-2, Cano got a RBI 2b, and was driven in by Posada. Jose Bautista got a 2-run home run
Me: Someone got on base for Jose Bautista?!?!?!?!?
Joba pissed that Ivan Nova is starting and he isn’t.
Well done, Joba. Well done.
Hey guys (and ladies), question.
Is it just me or does John Flaherty just suck the life out of the room every time he opens his mouth?
Yes.
Buster Olney just compared Nova to Hellickson. Wrong for so many reasons.
Bret bait!
Heard This: Source says Nova is the next Pedro Martinez.
Heard This: Source says Nova is better than Lox. Yes, the source was Jewish.
The earlier posts on this thread mention that NOVA got the 4 seamer up to 97 mph.
I can imagine the league interest in Nova’s second start has shot waaaaaay up if Nova repeats that velo reading. But did Nova generate any strikes from those FBs?
13 innings one run. Nice to see Joba’s results are starting to catch up with his peripherals.
C’mon BG. Now would be an opportune time to get on base.
Yankee pitchers many people wanted DFA’d at some point this season:
Boone Logan
Dustin Moseley
Sergio Mitre
Chad Gaudin
Still want them all DFA’d?
3 of those 4, yes.
I say all four have contributed in some form and have helped the Yankees.
No reason t…..oh fuck it troll.
O:S:
He’s a troll b/c some very useful players were widely mocked on this site as a general rule?
No one is off limits here. You can be the most productive player in the world, and if you do something stupid, you will be mocked. Simple as that. We love great players. And if you’re not great, you will get ridiculed.
Am I? Look closely.
Whoah, I didn’t notice that. Well played, sir.
Holy shit, didn’t see that.
Better question at this point is which of them will make the postseason roster, if any.
Logan has been very good. Even if Marte comes back, I can see Coffee Joe having both on the roster. The question is does Javy make the postseason roster?
Logan – No.
Mosely – Don’t care (sort of need him with Pettitte on the DL)
Mitre – No.
Gaudin – Yes.
Still want them all DFA’d?
Nah…just mitre, moesley, and gaudin.
Love the name.
That was a strike!
Bunch of borderline calls in that AB.
Rough day for Gritt. Shouldve protected on that one.
Damnit.
I love two pitch at bats from the number three hitter with the go ahead run on base.
/grr face
Not to mention this is the guy who is supposed to be carrying the team with A-Rod out.
Tex pulled a jeter there.
Having a pretty good offensive year? Didnt I just see his OBP at .265?
Son. Of. A. Bitch.
God damn.
Missed location
What a prick bastard.
But of course.
Brady Anderson strikes again
WOOD TO TEH 8TH!!11!!
Wow D-Rob missed his spot but more than a feet their.
Take a little longer running around the bases, fucking asshole.
Fuck!!!!
Jose Bautista: http://www.myfacewhen.com/3/
Holy shit. Someone check this man’s piss.
Boy, Bautista’s got that bat flip down, eh?
Enjoy fourth place, loser.
There’s roid rage going on here, roid rage, I tell you. If not from Bautista, then from me!
Whatever pitching book we have on him should be set on fire.
Ortiz-esque trot there.
(Also ugh I called it.)
Who does Bautista think he is? Miguel Cabrera?
Jose Bautista WILL get beaned this series.
damn that sucks
Robertson missed badly there. Yikes.
Why is it the same assholes that continually hit HR after HR against this team?
Why is he an asshole?
Did you see his 30 second trot?
This “King of the Troglodytes” and “Trog of the Klingodytes” thing is going to get confusing. Which personality is supposed to be which person?
guess i’ll be the only one to take exception with the Manny act on that one.
Cue everyone trying to justify mocking someone who’s having a great season by lying and saying his head is huge from HGH.
we’re mocking him because he’s a douche, not because we actually believe he’s on drugs (although they are legal in canada)
No ‘ im mocking him cause I think he’s on the juice AND he’s a douche
it must be the douche juice
There’s a zero percent chance that the rest of this series will be without further…incidents.
legal canadian hgh, that is all
Dude needs to get his ass flipped. On multiple occasions. Hope he enjoys his one year in the sun.
As much as it’s possible to be in the sun while playing on a fourth place team, in a dome, in Canada
There you have it folks. Joe Girardi wants to let the Blue Jays walk all over the Yankees. Sorry, that’s horrible.
Yea, putting Robertson in the 8th is unprecedented and unacceptable.
I think that’s the first run he’s let up the entire 2nd half.
More like making it seem like what Nova did was unacceptable.
Nova wouldn’t pitch the 8th anyways, Robertson would.
Do you read? I’M NOT MAD AT THE HOME RUN.
You make zero sense.
How is that Girardi’s fault?
He opened the door to that when he took out Nova. Basically told his team “please, let Jose Bautista continue to show you up”
No. I’m pretty sure he told his team, “I believe Boone Logan gives us a better chance to win this game right now”.
#letitgo
He did nothing of the sort.
He basically told his team “I don’t care if Jose Bautista is an ignorant, self-obsessed asshat. We have business to take care of, we’re not going to get injuries or suspensions from engaging in some stupid dick-measuring contest. If you don’t want him showing you up, don’t give up homers.”
What did Girardi do to make Robertson throw a cock shot? Sorry, but your Girardi rants are a bit much at this point.
That.
I’m not mad at the homer. I’m mad that Joe seems to think it’s acceptable to let Jose Bautista show up his team.
He has more important shit to worry about than some preening clown on a 4th place team.
That.
As much as I want to see Bautista get drilled, I care more about them winning the game.
How much did you hate Joe Torre? If you perceive that Girardi doesn’t like retaliation (I don’t agree), then you must have seriously hated Torre.
I despised Torre. Still do.
It’s Girardi’s fault that Robertson missed his spot by 3/4 the length of the plate?
*checks the score* “Walk all over” may be a bit strong.
Girardi’s done plenty wrong. This was not one of them.
Robertson’s been money and made ONE bad pitch. The blame should go to him; not the manager
Dude, you’re smart, but sometimes you say things that don’t make any sense at all.
I guess I worded it wrong, because no one seems to have any idea what the fuck I’m talking about. There’s no excuse to letting a guy show up the team like that, EVER. No one is going to get hurt or suspended, but don’t let fucking Bautista do whatever the hell he wants!
See but this is where we disagree. Why not let him do what he wants? When October comes he’ll be doing what he wants at home while the Yanks play for number 28.
That.
They day we start caring about how much Jose Bautista admires a homer is the day we stop focusing on what’s important.
Winning this game and not getting in a brawl with a 4th place team that has nothing to lose and doesn’t give a shit about anything other than fighting the Yankees >>>>>>>>>>> Letting Bautista do whatever the hell he wants.
Bautista flipped a bat twice after two big homers? I don’t give a shit. It’s irrelevant. We don’t need to sink to their level and lose sight of what’s really important here.
Let him preen, he’s an idiot.
Move on.
Ahhh, gotcha.
I mean… I guess I get it but I’d rather see Bautista pimp a HR than the Yankees get into a meaningless brawl.
That was an awesome taunt at Cervelli.
i think that celebration at homeplate was a shot at cervelli
Completely identical fist pump
I thought it was a shot as well. I have never seen Bautista do that fist pump.
Good, when you’re a shitty player you shouldn’t be fist pumping
Wow, when’s the last time Robertson gave up a tater?
Also, this is your fault, bex.
I love it when players in a 4th place division team are smug about their accomplishments. Guess where you’re going in October? You guessed right, bitch, you’re going home.
/unlady like again
It’s true, these douchebags did the same thing last year with the Posada fight.
And dont forget that fat ass bench coach acting like he wanted a piece of ARod after the “hah” play
4th place teams love playing spoilers – need something to play for.
Yeah, the MLB HR leader is smug for no reason.
He’s on a 4th place team. He’s accomplished literally nothing that’s meaningful. Put your bat down and run the bases.
He’s accomplished literally nothing that’s meaningful.
Hitting homeruns is somewhat meaningful. Sure, it’s not as good as winning games, but it’s something.
Perhaps I overstated my point. I’ll concede that.
Fair enough.
He kind of did, though. He’s the MLB HR leader, (perhaps) got a pitch thrown at his head by a rookie, then said rookie acted like a wanna be gansta towards him, then he got revenge by hitting a second HR to take the lead. Sounds like he had a good night so far.
Go watch the replay of the pitch in question. It is high but right over the plate. Jose overreacted and then tried to pull a tough guy act by walking out to the mound with his bat (soft).
Not every team can spend $200 million.
Who are you?
who-who. Who-who.
We dont apologize for being the New York Fucking Yankees…I hope we spend 300 million next year
That’s right. Most teams suck.
We do not suck, which is why we spend 200M regularly and win titles regularly as well.
Yup. He’s smug for no.fucking.reason. What’s your next smart ass comment?
oooooh! tough guy!
Better believe it. Also not a guy.
Seriously, how the fuck do you let Jose be the one to beat you there?
Because he’s good at hitting homeruns. In fact, he’s the best in baseball this year. It’s not that crazy.
I think that was his point. Don’t throw him anything that gives him the chance to beat you.
He set up outside, DRob threw it inside.
New rule. DO NOT THROW BAUTISTA A FUCKING STRIKE.
Throw at his fucking head
I hope someone just drills Bautista and then goes on to beat the shit out of him when he tries to attack.
Fucking Jose bautista
Better living through chemistry…. Bud Selig once again, like the mayor in Jaws, will ignore this problem until it swims up and bites him in the ass..
Everyone wants Bautista plunked. You think Moseley will do that?
Cano is Dominican for God of Walks
Playing the Red Sox this year is less painful than playing the Blue Jays.
/things I shouldn’t say’d
Amen. lol
/but things that are true’d
I’m honestly more amped up about this game than any Red Sox game this year. There hasn’t been much excitement to the series this year.
Yeah. You’re totally right about that.
Lots of mentally healthy people here.
Why are you here if you clearly don’t enjoy the site?
Unlike you, people here actually know and understand rationality, humor and baseball. If you’re not a Yankee fan, why don’t you go cheer for your decrepit Red Sox and just back the hell away? You’re only going to face more and more scorn.
Damn… tough loss for the Yanks.
… jump
Ok…Drew!
The game ended?
i was not aware of MLB’s new rule change to an 8 inning game
/sarcasm?
Really? Let’s at least wait until there’s an out in the 9th.
OMG, the dick parade is in town.
Because they didn’t call the game over in the eighth inning?
Such a douchenozzle. Watch out Bautista, watch out.
So right now it looks like Cano, Posada, Granderson, then Jeter. Hopefully Bautista makes a huge error that costs the team the game and then gets beaned.
This game should be tied. Friggin’ umps.
9 HRs in 28 career games against the Yanks. Someone scout this guy, please. While you’re at it, scout Russell Branyan, too.
What does scouting him have to do with it? D-Rob was trying to go away and left a 92 mph heater right down the middle. That’s not where he was trying to throw it.
And what about the other 8 times?
I can’t recall the first 7 specifically, but the 8th was a hanger from Nova. If a pitcher misses his spot as bad as Nova and Robo did, the gameplan is useless.
At least Branyan has a history of hitting the long ball (if nothing much else). Bautista? Yeah, if he were a Yankee right now with 40 home runs after a career high of 16 you’d have Selig himself drawing blood from his arm.
Gregg is beatable, lets do it
Rally time, mother fuckers. Start it up, Robbie.
I approve this message.
NOw I have to listen to ESPN suck Boston off
Just say No. Don’t listen to ESPN!
I don’t think much of Kevin Gregg, but 7-8-9 will do their best to kill any potential rally.
Is Bautista on a one-year contract with the Jays? If so, I wonder what team is going to get suckered into overpaying for him.
Still in his arb years (I believe).
so cano is gonna hit a ball and jose bautista is gonna try to rob the home run but its gonna hit him in the face and bounce off and go over the fence
should have crushed that…right down the middle.
Damn, that pitch had just enough run to not be a complete meatball.
Posada take his ass deep
somebody add the beavis & butthead laugh
…lol.
Cano clogging up the bases with his fancy OBP stats and plate discipline.
clutch BB Cano
Damn I thought he had that one.
Man just missed it
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
DAAAAAMMMMNNNNIIIITTTTT
He’s at 47 now. Over/Under: 60.5 walks for Cano this year.
Woof. That one hurt my feelings.
I thought he had it.
Gave it a ride Posada, crap
FUCK! just missed it…
good news that Jorge’s at least rediscovered his stroke..
Fuck. You. Sterling.
Why, oh why do I fall for Sterling’s missed HR call every single time?
o my gosh.. i feel for both of you (JGS and Zooboy).. thankfully i’m not listening to him on radio
what did he do this time???
ARE YOU SERIOUS???????
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?????????
holy shit, what the hell kinda strike zone does this guy have????
Awful fucking call!!!!
Meals is fucking horrible.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
Horrible game for Grandy tonight.
That was not his fault.
Totally agree that pitch was almost a foot outside just saying 0 for 3 with 3 K’s batting 6th was not what the Yankees needed considering the 3 hitters following him thats all.
the umpires..they sicken me
Yikes
COME. THE. FUCK. ON. JERRY. MEALS.
Wow, terrible call.
Just stand there Joe, it’s cool, don’t hurry to defend your hitter or anything.
Now we’re in agreement. Absolutely.
i think i would’ve taken the ejection on that one
that was just plain absurd..
Granderson wasn’t ejected, so there was no need to get up.
If Curtis is complaining you know it’s bad.
as usual, umpires stealing the show
QUE
That shit was in the other fucking box!
Umpires are seriously horrible. I hope he gets a broken bat to the helmet.
WOW.. so now the strike zone extends to the batters box?? LMFAO!! what a fuckin joke man
and any time Curtis argues, you know you were wrong
NEED ROBOT UMPS!!!
That’s absolutely fucking awful. Not even remotely close to be a strike.
fucking terrible
The strike zone has been complete crap all game for both sides.
And now I hate Canada
I always hated Canada. welcome.
Same here.
fucking bullshit.
4-6 against Toronto. Unacceptable.
this game leaves a terrible taste in my mouth bullshit everywhere
UCH.
Giant crock of shit. Oh well, go get ‘em tomorrow… Dustin Moseley.
Drew says:
August 23, 2010 at 9:43 pm
… jump
was being sarcastic but now kiss my ass… I was right.
Yay, the Yankees lose!
/iYankees’d
Seriously, I said tough loss and this is what you come up with…. immediately I am a ledge jumper. What the fuck is going on here tonight that everyone is outer limits.
That is why I am here to cheer the Yankees losses. Your an ass sometimes.
You’re constantly like this, declaring games over when they’re not, generally only saying negative things about the team. I find that terribly annoying and I suspect I’m not the only one. I never said you were a ledge jumper.
And you’re right. I am an ass sometimes.
constantly?????? Wow, did not realize I was enrolled in the Tony Robbins Yankees school of “drool all over”.. You make is sound like I am baby carlos or one of those other yahoos.
Let me know when you are back from hyperbole.
Wow, did not realize I was enrolled in the Tony Robbins Yankees school of “drool all over”.
I have no clue what this means. Seriously.
A lot of the time, you are.
I think people get annoyed when you declare games over when they’re… you know… not. I know I do. And no, it’s not just you that does that. And then you brag after the game’s over because you called the Yankees losing? C’mon, man. Not the way to be.
And then you brag after the game’s over because you called the Yankees losing? C’mon, man. Not the way to be.
That. The only thing more annoying than preemptively declaring defeat is bragging about being right preemptively declaring defeat.
It’s as if you’re more interested in the Yankees losing so that your fatalism can be proven right. Those are fucked up priorities.
“Your an ass sometimes”
The person who just asked someody to kiss his ass is now calling somebody ELSE an ass.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony
It’s one fucking game, get over yourself.
I’m in a bad mood too, as you can see, but don’t act like a dick and a three year old because the Yankees lost one fucking game with a kid making his first start out on the mound and the D lineup out. You’re embarassing yourself.
embarrassing myself? REally? I said it was a tough loss. That was it and you freaks of nature go off like you do on everyone else.
Good God. It was a tough loss, Nova pitched well, Arod is out, Captain DP sat all night, Nunez, Cervelli, and Pena all played. Perhaps I missed something.
Not to continue to kick up shit, but the fact that you were being childish is what pissed him off. Telling someone to kiss your ass is unnecessary and uncalled for. You were right, but declaring a loss before the end of the game annoys everyone.
No, he wasn’t right. The game wasn’t lost at that point, the game is not lost until the final fucking out is recorded.
That we ended up losing does not mean that we lost.
And asking soembody to kiss your ass makes you sound like a complete dick.
I meant he ended up being right about the loss.
No, he said the game was already lost. Regardless of whether they lost or not, he was wrong-one fucking run isn’t even close to a lost cause.
So no, he was wrong.
I read it wrong then. Disregard that.
Sorry if I sound like I’m mad at you, because I’m not. But when people not only make asinine comments but also act like dicks, it pisses me off.
It’s okay. I understand your argument completely and I agree with it.
Whatever. Whether I said it at the bottom of the 8th or said it now, it was a tough loss.
These are NOT the 2009 comeback Yankees. These are the 2010 Yankees with one, maybe two players hitting .300 or higher. They struckout 10+ times tonight, only had 6 hits and did not have their best line up – unless you consider that their best line up.
It is reasonable to assume they would not score in the top of the 9th. Granderson, Nunez, Pena, and Cervelli were a combined 2 for 12 with 5 men LOB. None of them scored or had RBI’s. Pena’s hits were insignificant in the scope of 9 innings.
So while I would LOVE for the Yankees to rally, they are not built that way right now. August has been up and down – meaning one game they hit and score, the next barely.
I fail to see a pronouncement of a loss a half an inning early as an avenue for the crap most hold and wait to just pounce on anyone posting something sarcastic or deemed negative.
If you didn’t think the Yankees had a shot of scoring one run in one half inning, you don’t understad baseball.
BTW, we lead the league in comebacks. At least last I checked, which was like a week ago. We have to still be top five.
I fail to see a pronouncement of a loss a half an inning early as an avenue for the crap most hold and wait to just pounce on anyone posting something sarcastic or deemed negative.
Do you at least see the blatant asshattery of posting again later to say “Called it!”
Because that’s fucking childish.
It’s one thing to look at my son’s low SAT scores and tell me he probably won’t get into a good college… it’s a whole ‘nother thing to bother me again when he’s flipping burgers at McDonald’s and say “See, I told you his dumb ass was a loser”.
You’re right. They’re not the 2009 Yankees. That doesn’t mean this isn’t a good team, and the 2010 Yankees still lead the AL in comebacks. More importantly, teams do not need X exciting comeback wins to be good.
It is reasonable to assume they would not score in the top of the 9th. Granderson, Nunez, Pena, and Cervelli were a combined 2 for 12 with 5 men LOB. None of them scored or had RBI’s. Pena’s hits were insignificant in the scope of 9 innings.
We also had Cano and Posada coming up, who are power threats. And Pena’s hits would’ve been significant if there was a guy on third when he got them. That’s how baseball rolls, though.
These Yankees have had some ass-kicking comebacks this year – but they’ve been doing it away, noticeably, so they weren’t walk-offs.
Exactly. Dodgers, against a closer who had been untouchable until then? Texas, facing Cliff Lee with a large deficit late in the game?
embarrassing myself? REally? I said it was a tough loss. That was it and you freaks of nature go off like you do on everyone else.
The reason people went off on you was because you declared it a tough loss before the game was actually over. It wasn’t a tough loss at that point. We were only down one measly run.
That’s ledge jumping, whether you admit it or not. Declaring defeat before we’re actually defeated is textbook ledge jumping.
Not only that. Also because he asked somebody to kiss his ass.
Even if he was actually right (and he’s not) that’s childish and asinine. All of that gets magnified when you realize he was wrong, because the game was not over.
Congrats. You the man.
This was a very disappointing loss.
I hate this team, whatever, tomorrow.
If you hate this team, why don’t you become a fan of a different team?
I definitely wasn’t talking about the blue jays
Granderson’s AB
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=1.gif
well, somebody’s going on my hit list of umpires…
Unbelievable.
Umpires suck.
wow.. just plain sickening
Jeez that wasn’t even close.
Don’t know how he didn’t bash that first pitch though…
the human element is charming
/not
Jeter into the game when you have Thames and Kearns on the bench.
Seriously Joe, are you kidding me?
joe doesn’t post here anymore
He did take Nova out who looked to be pitching quite well. Joe is not always the smartest manager at times, baseball common sense wise.
Joe was justified in taking Nova out when he did.
Total BS. unacceptable.
UMPIRES WIN! THHHHEEEE UMPIRES WIIIN!!!
Robots, Bud Selig … Robots.
F*ck me, I just looked at the Trenton game. Sh*tty night for the prospects too.
Nice game by Nova, lousy game by the umps.
Back tomorrow.
I think the new umpire contract guarenteed that theyd get more tv coverage. cause they sure are getting too damn contriversial for there own good
Robot umps would be nearly perfect. Obviously times they may be adjusted an inch wrong, but still about 20 times better than what is there right now.
Go…(shudders)…Angels.
Well the umps effectively screwed the Yankees at every point of the game. The 2 run homer that should have been a solo shot and extended strike zone for Canadians. Umps need a union because if there was not they would all be fired for being shit.
I’m going for a fucking walk, this is the most aggravated I’ve been in a long time. Just an awful AWFUL game.
Nova did a great job. If only the offense was remotely close to flatline.
I definitely keep reading your handle as part of your comment. It has a nice effect.
Oh well cant say didnt expect to only score 2 runs and lose tonight considering the lineup. Just sucked cause Nova pitched well and the game was tied heading into the 8th inning.
I didn’t choose Bautista as the Player of the Game.
For the 1,000th time in a row, I have chosen tonight’s umpiring crew as the Players of the Game. They really stepped it up and made it very dramatic with the human element we all love. This game would have been boring as hell without those blown calls and extra baserunners and arguments and the ejection.
Those guys brought it today, and they’re why I love baseball. I love watching the umps do their thing. It’s captivating.
It’s Beyond Baseball.
Shit… in lighter news… Rich Harden’s no-hitting the Twins through 6… yay…
and yes, go angels
In very light news…
Can’t wait to see Bautista to get rocked.
That ate a giant pile of ass.
Can the Yanks please figure out Shawn Camp? He’s only allowed 2 runs in his last 16 innings to this team.
Hall and Nokes says:
August 23, 2010 at 6:50 pm
So what previously mediocre but now suddenly buff Blue Jay is going to hit us up for a pair of taters tonight?
ugh
I got $5 on Aaron Hill. 0-16, he is due!
I think we should all chip in and send ARod a get well package
/conte’d
Bitter loss — and I mean, Betty and Don Draper divorce bitter. The bad call leading to a run, Bautista flaunting it and getting away with it, the false alarm on Jorge, the insult-to-injury call on Granderson in the 9th.
I’m almost glad the team had that decisive loss to King Felix Friday. Otherwise we’d be in a trough of so-close-you-can-taste-it losses that are more typical of the pre-’04 Red Sox.
At least Nova showed well.
Anyone who can smoothly incorporate a Mad Men reference into a baseball discussion is a-ok in my book.
Batista needs to be hit tomorrow. Staring at those HR’s is pretty disrespectful.
Yanks need to learn how to pitch to a .260 hitter.
OR: we could just strike him out. There’s that as well.
I’d happily settle for a Jeterian grounder to SS.
I’d happily let him flip as many bats as he likes, and then invite him to “Kiss the rings, bitch” when the Jays come to YS3 in 2011.
Not if the Jays play spoilers and knock the Yanks into a wildcard spot. I don’t their chances against Lee and Wilson in a short series.
I don’t like anyone’s chances against us in any series. Because we’re the fucking Yankees, and they’re not.
This is not last year’s team.
And you know what? At worst, we’ll be second in the league in wins.
I’m afraid of nobody. I think we’re actually better than last year’s team.
Agreed, I just don’t see it.
Troll, you might be my favorite poster.
Thanks Deuce, this game was a pisser to watch though, it’s not helping my alcoholism one bit.
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/...../#comments
Damnit TSJC, your opinion took up too much space the first time, we get it, you love you some 2010 Yanks.
You’re right, it’s better than last year’s team.
I love tsjc just for saying crazy bold shit like that.
I love tsjc just for saying
crazybold shit like that.I may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, and a porn star, but I am *not* crazy!
Well they can’t be better in terms of titles won, so I assume you’re saying they’ll win more games, and that just seems to be wrong at their current rate.
I’m saying they’re better in terms of overall talent, so I expect them to win the title again (regardless of how many actual wins they finish the season with).
It’s nice that we can agree to disagree. If they don’t win the division, then there’s no way I can say they’re a better team. I don’t think the lineup 1-9 is better as it’s definately far less consistant (lots and lots of Cervelli) and you listed Pettite as still being our #2, but I don’t see him pitching… you are assuming a thing or 2 in your opinion, and that’s good for you. I’m just not.
Last year’s team would have beaten this team 110 times in a 162 game schedule. Melky would’ve had about 8 walk-offs.
Last year’s team would have had more walk-off wins simply because their pitching was shittier and they fell behind more often.
The 2010 Yankees are better than the 2009 Yankees. Book it.
This.
I’m not afraid of the Texas Rangers.
At this point the Wild Card is playing the Twins, IIRC. Not that they’re slouches.
You know how you avoid that? Don’t let him hit a HR. Make better pitches.
Angels are Bout to get rocked. Goodbye first.
DOOOOOOOMED.
If the Rays win, we’re actually still in first, just you know, tied.
Not sure about resting key players, i think they gonna have plenty of rest in october if the bottom third of the line up is going to be cervelli, pena and nunez
Your name and your comment do not go together. What you said is not something that a doctor of reality would say.
Guess what i mean is if they have to keep playing pena, cervelli and nunez there might not be an october
Yeah…no.
Bold statement. So confident of a 5.5 game WC lead are you?
That’s a big fucking lead.
37 games left, that’s alot of fucking games. 6 against the Sawx, that’s alot of fucking Sawx. You calling the race over in August is not dissimilar from iYankee calling the game over in the 8th, hope you can see that.
1-0 Rays already, and no Jered Weaver this series.
well there hope tomorrow – Mosely is on the bump
seems like Angels like Angels are rolling over for rays and sux
The Angels are the Red Sox’s bitch. It’s probably mental at this point (1-9 in 2010).
The Angels have only played 3 games against the Rays, though, and they’re 1-2. And they’re about .500 against them in 2008-2009. Not a big deal.
4-0 Rays in the 2nd, good to have company at the top again… at least we have our stopper going tomorrow, good ol’ Dustin Mos….. shit.
Hey Jose Bautista, congrats on your 40th home run, but your team is still 11.5 games out of first place. You fucking loser.
Last I checked, he won tonight.
Last I checked, his team was 11.5 games out of first place.
I hink calling him a fucking loser is going to far, but honestly the best thing Toronto can be right now is spoiler, and that’s a shitty, shitty consolation prize.
…And hink should have a t in front of it.
See previous comment. One game doesn’t matter that much.
Apparently they didn’t go over not letting Bautista beat us in the scouting report on the way to Toronto.
Maybe they should confiscate Bautista’s bats to see if he’s cheating the old fashioned way. Seriously, corking your bat has got to be an under the radar way to cheat nowadays in the era of steroid testing. Miguel Cabrera didn’t even hit the ball that hard against the Yankees last week. The ball comes off his bat like a super ball.
If you played in Canada, for a team that is so division fucked that it isn’t funny, wouldn’t you cheat all you could?? I doubt they even bother to test anyone on the Jays for anything.
/lible’d
/slander’d
/canadian’d – so does it even matter
I’m saying Girardi should have the umps take his bats away tomorrow to get X-rayed because the Yankees play the Blue Jays 8 more times. We can’t have one friggin guy on a 4th place team deciding a pennant race. You don’t think Joe Maddon would do this if he was costing the Rays wins? Even if it turns out legit and he’s just having a career year it doesn’t hurt to make sure. Best case scenario is his bat explodes into a million pieces like Sammy Sosa’s when he got caught corking.
I would literally shit my pants. Literally.
Hunter Pence got tested after his two-HR game against the Mets (he said it on Twitter, it was fucking hilarious). And he’s on the Astros!!!!
Houston = in America.
That’s debatable.
This. Helps me to understand where you’re coming from when you say this year’s team is better than last.
/hewasara-tard
Cheating nowadays has nothing to do with what team your on. It’s all about boosting stats to get your next contract to go way up. I dont know what Bautista makes now but he can seriously ask for $10 million in arbitration next year and thats probably low balling it because he could end up hitting 50 HR this year.
So he basically hit himself off the Jays
No way they gonna end up with another vernon wells contract
He’s not a free agent so if it’s only for one year he could be back in Toronto.
He won’t get a long term extension there. I could see Boston or the Angels offering him a 4 yr $60 million contract if he’s non tendered. And then he crashes back to earth.
Is HGH readily available in Canada
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I wonder
Can anyone clarify how to pronounce Ivan Nova’s first name? Is it EE-vahn or EYE-vihn? Swear I heard them say it both ways on YES
I believe it’s “EE-vahn”.
hmmmm i thought it was EYE-vin…. Ben, Mike, Joe…. clarification?
This, the AA loss, and I haven’t seen the sun in days.
/doom&gloom’d
So Mitch Williams said he respected “Nava,” I believe that’s how he pronounced it, for coming inside to Bautista but chastised him for throwing at head level.
After seeing the replay, I say that I’m glad Nova did that. Fuck Bautista. And if the Yankees are smart, Moseley will hit Bautista his first at bat tomorrow, so that it draws a warning and Toronto won’t be able to retaliate.
Wow, ESPN announcers (and it sounds like Aaron Boone) = t3h fail.
Talking about how Matt Cain is a ‘bulldog’ and how he wasn’t shut down after 150 innings in 2006, and how he learned from Jason Schmidt to be a ‘bulldog’.
Um, :facepalm: – Matt Cain threw nearly 200 innings in 2005, between the minors and majors. The ’150 innings cap’ is to keep young pitchers from throwing too many innings when they AREN’T accustomed to it.
And… Jason Schmidt… um… the mediocre pitcher, who had two great seasons, then promptly fell off the cliff with some injuries? Yeah, THAT’S what I want my young prospects to turn into. ROFL.
Aaron Boone = not a future manager.
Fuck the jays