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Josh Norris chatted with Nardi Contreras briefly, who talked about who might be going to the Arizona Fall League this year. We’re still waiting for part two of the interview, but check it out anyway.

Triple-A Scranton (7-4 loss to Toledo)
Kevin Russo, LF-2B: 3 for 5, 2 R – 14 for his last 42 (.333)
Eduardo Nunez, SS: 0 for 0 – left the game after fouling a ball of his face in the very 1st inning
Greg Golson, PH-RF: 2 for 5, 2 2B, 1 K – 13 for his last 39 with four doubled, a triple & three homers
Jesus Montero, C: 1 for 5, 1 RBI, 1 K – 15 for his last 35 (.429)
Juan Miranda, 1B, Jorge Vazquez, DH, Brandon Laird, 3B & Eric Bruntlett, 2B-SS: all 1 for 4 – Miranda K’ed … JoVa drove in a run & K’ed … Laird K’ed twice … Bruntlett hit a solo jack & K’ed twice
Colin Curtis, CF: 2 for 3, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K – three homers in his last nine games after hitting just one in his first 59 games
Chad Huffman, RF-LF: 0 for 4, 2 K
Lance Pendleton: 5 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 K, 2-6 GB/FB – 55 of 91 pitches were strikes (60.4%)
Zack Segovia: 2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 1-3 GB/FB – 24 of 35 pitches were strikes (68.6%)
Amaury Sanit: 1 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 WP, 1-1 GB/FB – 15 of 22 pitches were strikes (68.2%)

Double-A Trenton (3-2 win over Harrisburg)
Justin Christian, LF & Edwar Gonzalez, DH: both 0 for 4 – Christian walked & came around to score … Edwar K’ed twice
Austin Krum, CF: 0 for 3, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 SB
Dan Brewer, RF: 1 for 4, 1 2B, 1 K – 13 for his last 33 (.394) with two doubles & a homer
Rene Rivera, C: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 BB
Corban Joseph, 2B: 1 for 2, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 2 BB, 1 K, 1 SB – 21 BB & 20 K since the start of July
Marcos Vechionacci, 1B & Matt Cusick, 3B: both 2 for 4, 1 K – Vech drove in a run
Justin Snyder, SS: 0 for 2, 2 BB, 1 K – 46 BB, 35 K this year
Hector Noesi: 7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 9 K, 7-5 GB/FB – 71 of his 96 pitches were strikes (74%) … very nice rebound, he got smacked around a bit the last few times out … 133-24 K/BB ratio in 135.2 IP this year
J.B. Cox: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 1 WP, 2-1 GB/FB
Ryan Pope: 1 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 3-0 GB/FB – six runs allowed in his last 5.1 IP

High-A Tampa
Game One (5-2 win over Daytona in 7 innings)
makeup of a July 3rd rain out
Ray Kruml, LF: 2 for 4, 2 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI
Jose Pirela, SS: 4 for 4, 3 RBI – 14 for his last 40 (.350)
Bradley Suttle, 3B: 2 for 3, 1 2B, 1 BB – 13 for his last 36 (.361)
Melky Mesa, CF & Zoilo Almonte, RF: both 0 for 2 – Mesa drove in a run & K’ed … Almonte walked
Addison Maruszak, 1B & Jack Rye, DH: both 0 for 3
Mitch Abeita, C: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 K
Walt Ibarra, 2B: 2 for 3, 2 R
Graham Stoneburner: 7 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 6 K, 1 WP, 9-5 GB/FB – like Noesi, the last few weeks weren’t kind to him, so it’s good to see him get back on track … 129-30 K/BB ratio in 133 IP
Game Two (1-0 win over Daytona in 7 innings)
Ray Kruml, LF, Myron Leslie, 1B & Jose Gil, C: all 1 for 2 – Kruml drew a walk, stole a base & got caught stealing … Leslie scored the only run on a suicide squeeze
Walt Ibarra, 2B: 0 for 1, 1 RBI
Everyone Else: combined 0 for 11, 3 BB, 5 K, 1 SB, 1 CS
John Van Benschoten: 4 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 7-4 GB/FB
Pat Venditte: 3 IP, zeroes, 5 K, 3-1 GB/FB – he’s 29th in the league with 78 strikeouts despite being a reliever

Low-A Charleston (8-4 win over Hickory)
Slade Heathcott, CF: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 BB, 3 K – got picked off first … he’s six for his last 12 with four walks
Kelvin Castro, SS: 0 for 4, 1 R, 2 K
J.R. Murphy, C: 2 for 5, 1 R, 2 RBI, 1 K, 2 PB – he’s absolutely en fuego right now … 11 for his last 20 with a double & three homers
Rob Lyerly, DH & Neil Medchill, LF: both 1 for 5, 1 R, 2 K – Lyerly doubled & drove in a run
Luke Murton, 1B: 2 for 3, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 BB, 1 K
Kevin Mahoney, 3B: 3 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1 E (fielding) – he’s the new Chris Malec
Emerson Landoni, 2B: 2 for 4, 1 2B, 1 E (missed catch) – got picked off first
Francisco Santana, RF: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 3B
Brett Marshall: 5 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 5 K, 9-1 GB/FB – love the grounders … his strikeout rate is up more than one full K/9 since last year, pre-Tommy John surgery
Ben Watkins: 3 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 4-4 GB/FB
Gabriel Tatis: 1 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 2-0 GB/FB

Short Season Staten Island (6-5 win over Tri-City)
Kelvin Duran, CF: 0 for 5, 4 K – he’s now 0-for-9 with 7 K with SI
Shane Brown, 3B: 2 for 5, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 K, 2 E (fielding, throwing) – I didn’t even know he could play the hot corner, but then again he might not be able to be, judging by the errors
Kyle Roller, DH: 1 for 5, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 K
Kelvin DeLeon, RF: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 K – threw a runner out at the plate
Garrison Lassiter, 1B: 0 for 2, 1 R, 2 BB, 1 K – five more walks than last year in 60 fewer plate appearances
Jose Mojica, SS: 0 for 4, 1 K, 3 E (all throwing) – just one for his last 23 (.043)
Mike Ferraro, LF: 2 for 4, 2 R, 1 HR, 3 RBI – first career homer
Nick McCoy, C: 2 for 4, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 2 K,1 SB – eight for his last 20
Luis Parache, 2B: 1 for 3, 1 2B, 1 BB
Zach Varce: 5.2 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 1 WP, 4-4 GB/FB – opponents are hitting over .310 off him
Michael Recchia: 1.1 IP, zeroes, 1 K, 1 WP, 0-2 GB/FB
Preston Claiborne: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 0-2 GB/FB
Chase Whitley: 1 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 2 WP, 1-0 GB/FB – moved the tying to run to third with back-to-back wild pitches, but stranded him there

Rookie GCL Yanks had a scheduled off day.

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  • Angelo

    Murphy’s numbers are looking pretty good for a 19 year old catcher in Low-A

    • hello9

      seriously. i retract my skepticism about his prospect status from a couple weeks ago

      a mid 700 ops in a pitcher friendly park at his age is nothing to sneeze at

      also Free Venditte!

  • Don W

    Charleston didn’t lose, they won 8-4.

  • Simon B.

    I wish they would promote Venditte.

    Okay, we get it Yankee organization, you don’t think he’s very legitimate as a prospect. Reward him and the fanbase by at least giving him the opportunity to fail at higher levels after he’s dominated so well at High-A. God knows not everybody on the AA/AAA squads is very likely to be a major leaguer.

    • Big Juan

      Like we’ve all said before, who would you like demoted to make room for him? The issue isn’t as simple as just moving him up.

      • hello9

        I would consider demoting guys like Bleich, Cox and Castillo.

        Additionally, I imagine the yanks will try to unload igawa and eat as little salary as possible this offseason.

        • Angelo

          I seriously doubt anyone would take Igawa and most of contract.

        • whozat

          So Igawa’s not going anywhere. And he’s at AAA anyway.

          Also, it makes no sense to demote someone who might have a future just because it’d be fun.

          • hello9

            Yeah, the point I made about eating as little of his contract was made specifically in the context of that article. As of now Igawa is essentially just occupying a spot on the AAA roster because the organization has decided its worth less than 2.2 mill. There is some number though at which he will become expendable depending on how much another team could pick him up for. While he’s been a bust there has been interest from the nl in him even up to this year. Whether there’s enough that it’ll hit the limit that the FO has set is pretty doubtful but should still be pursued.

            The three guys I suggested weren’t pulled out of a hat. For a guy who was touted as having a plus fastball and good control Castillo has struggled with his command even at Tampa. It hasn’t improved at Trenton. Bleich is going to have to prove he has the same stuff after he recovers from the torn labrum (especially considering how mediocre he was even before). Cox might consider retiring.

            Are there other guys who might be more worthwhile to promote over Venditte from the Yanks farm perspective. Perhaps. I’ll admit that Venditte story and ability to perform at each level has left me a little biased. In spite of that, his performance is eventually going to warrant a move up.

            • Steve O.

              It’s a little disappointing, sure, but guys who throw slop are the last guys to get their chances. Pitchers who throw low 90s will get numerous chances before Venditte gets his first. Not to mention fire ballers. Process over results, if you will.

              Dems da breaks, man.

          • Chris

            How about demoting Wilkins Arias? Or Josh Schmidt?

            Every roster has some dead wood that can be cut loose if needed.

        • kosmo

          Bleich is injured.Cox looks like he´s all the way back from injury and has pitched well of late .

          Remember the MILB season ends in a couple of weeks doesn´t make alot of sense to promote players at this time.

          Although I agree Venditte should be set free.One will assume he´ll begin 2011 at Trenton.I´´m guessing if Venditte has a 1/2 season of success at Trenton he´ll be promoted to Scranton.

          Why Sanit is still on Scranton´s roster remains a mystery to me?

  • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    Greg Golson’s making a late push in the “Don’t DFA me this winter so you can protect a better prospect” race with Huffman.


    Someone recently (don’t remember who) mentioned that Murphy and Sanchez both have the athleticism to probably move out to different spots on the diamond if they’re blocked/can’t stick at catcher. What spots would those be, do you think? (I’m talking to the entire board.)

    Could one of them be our long-term answer at 3B (if Laird doesn’t answer it first)?

    • JohnnyC

      Murphy was an outfielder in prep school before catching in his senior year. Sanchez has always caught apparently. I doubt that the Yankees would convert them anytime soon. Laird may or may not be the long-term answer but don’t forget Bradley Suttle, a better defensive player with less power but maybe better contact skills than Laird.

      • Angelo

        The problem with this is, Suttle hasn’t really improved, and has largely been a dissapointment. Also:

        23 years old, Laird is Triple-A Scranton

        24 years old, Suttle is in High-A Tampa

        • JohnnyC

          Suttle missed the better part of 2 seasons with injuries. It’s hard not to disappoint when you can’t play.

          • Angelo

            I know that, but you can’t say Suttle is better option in the future. That’s hard to say. He’s been injured and hasn’t performed much when healthy. Plus he’s way too old for High-A.

            Not performing plus injuries plus too old for level = not very valuable.

            • Steve O.

              He doesn’t have much trade value, but he’s a good guy to have around if everything clicks. He may be 26 or 27 when that happens, but that’s fine with me, give him a shot then. Better with us than some other organization.

              It’s a longshot, yes, but nothing wrong with wishful thinking.

              • Angelo

                Yeah, there’s nothing wrong with wishful thinking, but at this point Laird is far more valuable.

                • Steve O.

                  Oh yeah, it’s not particularly close either. I’d love for the Yankees to pull off a heist to a team financially strapped for a 3B. The Marlins or the Braves seem like good fits for Laird. Although they will probably move Coghlan to 3B next season.

                  The Braves also have a surplus of pitching prospects to deal from and could use a RHB in Laird.

                  Just baseless speculation here.

                  • kosmo

                    The Yanks don´t need anymore pitching prospects via trade.I wouldn´t go so far as to say the Braves have a surplus.They do have a few good PP.

                    The Yanks have to consider the age of the left side of the IF.AROD could transition to DH in a couple of seasons.In 2 seasons they will have a 38yr old SS and a 37yr old 3B.Loss of range is imminent.
                    Laird in my opinion is a legit prospect with 30 HR 100 RBI potential.Outside of Montero I don´t see anyone within the org. with that kind of upside.
                    Why trade him?

                    • Angelo

                      30HR potential? Where are you getting this stuff from. You’re pretty off. He’s not that good.

                      There aren’t many minor league or major league players that can do that.


                      They are nowhere near the same in skill level. Laird has a plus bat, but he’s not a great prospect. He’s only recently been seen as a good prospet in many scouts eyes this year.

                      It sounds like you’re looking at Laird’s stats and coming to assumptions.

                    • kosmo


                      Laird was a 27th round draft choice which doesn´t get much play with these so called experts.So it´s taken a couple of years for Laird to start drawing scouts attention.

                      Does that make sense to you ?

                      He´s all of 22 years old and he´s made it to triple A.That says something for being such a low draft choice.
                      He may not be as highly touted a prospect as Montero but he´s legit.

                    • Angelo

                      I never said Laird wasn’t legit, but you were overrating how good he is. And low draft choice or not, talent is talent. I seriously doubt people would ignore him just because of that.

                      I have never heard anyone (with decent knowledge) say that Laird has 30HR potential

                    • kosmo

                      What now your going to tell me you have “decent knowledge“? Bullshit.

                      Laird in 3 full seasons in the minors has averaged 20 HR and 85 RBI in the course of around 125 games per.

                      What does that tell you ? That he`s already shown good power potential .

                      Laird wasn´t a high profile prospect so hence he wasn´t on anyone´s radar until now.
                      It happens .

    • zs190

      Murphy is a really athletic guy, I believe he played both 3B and OF in high school before converting to a catcher, he probably could handle those spots still.

      Sanchez is probably a corner OF if he has to move.

    • Steve O.

      If I’m not mistaken, Golson only has one option left. Because of this, the Yankees can decide whether he has a future with the team. If not, they can trade him or DFA him. It helps clear things up a bit. He’s presenting a case, but ultimately I think he gets traded/DFA’d or they might keep him through spring training for some good depth, then DFA/trade.

      As for Laird, He might be useful if the Yankees don’t believe in A-Rod playing third going forward. I’d rather trade him because I don’t see him gathering enough ABs for him to have a lot of value to the Yankees. He’s more valuable as a trade chip.

    • larryf

      You can’t teach speed. hmmm..maybe Greg could teach Brett a bit about basestealing. 1/2 step improvement is all we need…

    • Brian in NH

      I think we like to dream up scenarios where our team is mostly comprised of guys we call up from the farm system (a la TB) but i think the truth of the matter is that unless these guys are absolutely amazing we will likely only see two out of montero, romine, murphy, and sanchez even play with the big club. Even if they are good enough to crack a ML team…i see them getting traded for top quality pitching.

  • pat

    Trenton’s rotation is going to be straight unsportsmanlike next year.

    Banuelos (Might not start there, but he’ll be up soon)

    • pat

      Shit, Noesi will probably start the year in AA meaning Manny will prob start in Tampa and they’ll be promoted at the same time.

    • Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

      Jesus that’s insane.

    • Naved

      Brackman will probably start in AAA if he can get good.

      • Rob Has no Innings Limit

        This. Brackmonster at AAA (as long as he finishes strong this season in AA). AA rotation:


        Which I will so very much enjoy following on DotF.

    • kosmo

      Add Shaeffer Hall to the list while Brackman will get a fair shot at AAA in 2011.

    • Rob Has no Innings Limit

      The caveat to this should be IF the Yankees don’t include any of those guys in an off-season trade.

  • dmh08

    I could see Murphy moving to 3rd base if he’s blocked but Sanchez seems like he has all the tools to step into our long term catchers role but this is all kinda premature. Murphy is about 3-4 yrs off and Sanchez could be even more, unless Sanchez can stay on this kinda tear i would be surprised if he moved more than one level a yr especially if he sticks at catcher.

    Another thing to remember is that i doubt they move any of these guys away from C because we re going to need trading chips down the road and other than a young starter, a young catcher who can hit is 2nd best in my book

    • Angelo

      Use the reply button next time. Thank you.

      And I agree that it’s way too premature to start thinking about those sort of things.

      • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Yeah, I wasn’t saying they should be moved anytime soon, just speculating for years and years in advance. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

        I was hoping the “3B of the future” implied that they wouldn’t move to 3B for 5+ years, since ARod is probably manning 3B for the next 5 years minimum.

        • Angelo

          Yeah, I get that. Maybe the Yankees haven’t drafted that player yet :)

          • Rob Has no Innings Limit

            Unless that future 3B is a college stud, I sure as shit hope they’ve already drafted/signed him, otherwise he’s even further off in development than the guys they’ve got already.

  • Jake H

    Is the Yankees farm system top 15? I think it has moved up there. It’s taken a huge step up with Brackman, Dellin, Noesi and Stoneburner.

    • hello9

      Easily. It’s likely top 10.

      • Angelo

        This is more like what I was thinking.

      • matt montero

        And where will the Sawks be ranked :)

        • Dirty Pena

          #1-5. Each level gets its own spot.

        • hello9

          In all seriousness I”d guess 12-20 (yeah, real gutsy stuff by me).

          Kelly is still a great prospect but the shine is off a little bit. The unfortunate Westmoreland tragedy is another blow. The huge range I’m hedging with reflects how much you value kalish/doubront. The sox easily have enough depth in their system to avoid being a bottom third farm even if both those guys somehow radically lose value by the next rankings. If you thinking Kalish could be real good (like I do) and take (relatively) bullish views on Lars, Rizzo and Reddick I could see a near 10 ranking.

          • Chris

            I wonder whether they consider guys that are no longer rookie eligible in evaluating the farm system. I’m pretty sure that Reddick won’t be eligible next year (too long on the 25 man roster), but he’s certainly still a prospect.

            • hello9

              Good point – in reality Reddick won’t affect the ranking too much but Kalish and Doubront might be nearing the limits w/the big league team if they stick with them (potentially through the playoffs).

              Still with jose ‘ozzie smith with power’ iglesias and kelly the sox will still be beloved by just about every analyst.

    • Angelo

      I mentioned this here the other day.

      You forgot a lot of names, haha, but yes. They will most likely rank better than #15.

      • Jake H

        I think it’s top 10.

        • Angelo

          Yeah, that’s what I said up above. Top 10 is more likely.

    • zs190

      I think it’s top 15, around the fringe of top 10 depends on how signing deadline shakes out for all the teams.

  • Doug

    Any concern over Slade’s strikeout rate yet? I mean, 16 of his last 26 outs have been by K.

    • Steve O.

      Not really, it’s about a 26% K rate. It’s understandable for his bat to slow down a bit due to the grind of his first full season. It’s not a ridiculous rate either.

      • Andrew

        What about the lack of home runs? Any concern there?

        • Steve O.

          No, not yet atleast, power is usually the last tool to develop. You can be concerned in a few years. He’s also a centerfielder, making less power more tolerable at that position.

      • Doug

        it’s a bit late, so maybe my brain is just not all there right now, but how is 16 of 26, 26%? or 16 of 36, adding back in the hits? or even 16 of 44, adding back in the walks?

        • Chris

          The 26% is on the season (K / PA).

          • Doug

            ah, thanks.

            just a lot higher recently….hopefully just a long season for him like steve said.

            • Angelo

              Which makes what Murphy has done seem that much better since he’s a year younger and a catcher (big grind for catchers)

  • Bobby’s World

    Talking about players being 23 or 24 to old for this league or that league.Ryan Howard came up at the end of 04 and in 05 was his first full season.How old was he.

    • Steve O.

      Using one player to contest an idea is not the way to go. Ryan Howard was drafted out of college. All things considered, if you are older than the average age of a level, then you are old for the level.

      Lets break down the ages at each level:

      He got a cup of coffee as a 24 year old, then started off in AAA the next season, then became a full time player that year. He wasn’t too old for any level. A little old for low A ball, but he was a college guy, so it’s understandable.

      • Angelo

        Are those really the average ages? That seems a bit off. Any link?

        • Steve O.

          That was Ryan Howard’s age at each level.

          No link, but it’s probably something like this:

          A:21-22, 23 is old
          A+:22-23, 24 is old
          AA:23-24, 25 is old
          AAA-24-25, 26 is old

          • Plank

            Just wanted to point out Montero is still 20 and mashing in AAA.

            • Brian in NH

              like we need that reminder ~_~

    • All Praise Be To Mo

      Howard was ready way before he was called up. He was blocked by Thome though and Thome had some monster years in Phily before getting hurt and then traded to the White Sox. They didn’t have a DH position, he wasn’t athletic enough to move anywhere else and they knew he was going to be good, that’s why they didn’t trade him despite many offers for him. Sorry, huge Ryan howard fan and would have loved for us to been able to get him a few years ago when he was blocked, that swing in YS3, wow…

      • Steve O.

        All things considered at the time, the Yankees at the time didn’t have the trade chips and also had Giambi entrenched at the position for the better part of the decade. The Phillies also had no incentive to trade him either.

  • Joe R

    How many times has Heathcott been picked off first this season? Seems like alot.

  • Joe in Upstate NY

    In the FWIW column, I was in Syracuse last week on business, but had a free evening to see the SYR Chiefs play a doubleheader against the Columbus Clippers. It turned out to be a historical moment, since former Yank (actually, former everybody else, too) Ron “Suitcase” Villone pitched what turned out to be, or, reasonably likely will be, his last professional pitch. A day after the game, the Sky Chiefs released him to his fate. Now a free agent, Suitcase returned to his New Jersey home to see where his future is. On teh bright side, he is a record-holder: Suitcase had tied the record for playing for the most major league teams: 12.