Open Thread: Walking on hallowed ground

Rehab Update: Pettitte & Aceves
Noesi, Stoneburner dominate in wins

I haven’t been to a game in a few weeks, so I haven’t been able to check up on the status of the demolition of the Old Stadium across the street. Yeah, I know it’s a giant hole in the ground now (and has been for quite some time), but building and construction nerds like me enjoy that stuff.

With a big ol’ tip of the cap to Sliding Into Home, Baseball-Fever.com user DN4L posted some pictures of the new walkway that allows you to walk across the land where the Old Stadium used to be, like the one you see above. From the looks of things, it allows you cut across from 161st St. to the middle of Macombs Dam Park, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. That’s certainly useful if you’re coming from the New Metro North Station, which of course I never do.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the evening. The ESPN Sunday Night Game features the Mets and Phillies, with the primo pitching matchup of Mike Pelfrey vs. Kyle Kendrick. Santana vs. Halladay it is not. Enjoy the game if you partake, and feel free to talk about whatever you want.

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Rehab Update: Pettitte & Aceves
Noesi, Stoneburner dominate in wins
  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Over/Under: 8.5 hits allowed by Pelfry.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      In the first inning?

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW
    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      This post: awesome.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

        =D

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

    Greg Golson pinch hit for Eduardo Nuñez in the first inning. Just a heads up…

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

      Or maybe not.

      RT @AndyInSunnyDB

      @rebeccapbp Injury. It read like he fouled a bunt attempt into his face or head.

  • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

    Bullington has never faced the Yankees before, so we’re going to have to deal with the whole “ZOMG a pitcher they’ve never seen before” phenomenon. Don’t ask me why, but I feel confident about this one (that means they’re doomed).

    Alas. I felt the same way a few weeks ago when analyzing the Cleveland series. I figured three of four then, with either the Burnett/Carmona game or the Moseley/Talbot game being the loss (but not both). I saw a Sabathia/Tomlin matchup, but even with the Yankees purported struggles in mind, I wasn’t going to let that make me think the Yankees were at a distinct disadvantage that night. Always expect to win with the ace on the mound.

    FAIL.

    That in mind, I did the same thing when analyzing this series. Figured three of four, the loss likely being Friday with Moseley. Sure enough, that one happened. This matchup featured that lethal “never-faced-Yankees-before” aspect, but since Bullington has sucked ever since being drafted, I liked the Yankees chances.

    All this leads me to believe is this:

    Fool me once: shame on you
    Fool me twice: shame on me
    Fool me thrice: fuck you

    That last one isn’t going to happen, luckily. I dunno when this opportunity next presents itself, but games like today’s are just friggen ridiculous.

    Ah well, Boston lost. Still a good six clear of the playoffs. As long as the Yankees sit around 89-90 wins by the time they return to Texas, I’ll be content.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      I’d also like to point out that the two games we lost came on a game delayed by rain twice for two and a half hours (and where the winning run was a homer that hit the foul pole) and on a game where we held the opposition to 1 run over 9 innings.

      We lost two hard-luck games to the Royals. It’s not like we got blown out twice by the Royals.

    • boogie down

      “There’s an old saying in Tennessee, I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says, ‘Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.'”

  • Ross in Jersey

    With a big ol’ tip of the cap to Sliding Into Home, Baseball-Fever.com user DN4L posted some pictures of the new walkway that allows you to walk across the land where the Old Stadium used to be, like the one you see above. From the looks of things, it allows you cut across from 161st St. to the middle of Macombs Dam Park, but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. That’s certainly useful if you’re coming from the New Metro North Station, which of course I never do.

    As someone who goes often and comes from the station on that side of the stadium…

    The new walkway was put in sometime between Tuesday the 3rd and that Friday before the Boston series. It really doesn’t make the trip to the stadium much shorter by my measure, and they funneled everyone into that walkway rather than the normal pathway adjacent to the parking garage. They both go right to the stairway that leads to the Metro station. You maybe save a couple hundred feet of walking distance? So not entirely sure why they made the change.

  • Carlosologist

    I just looked on FanGraphs, and with the 3 HR game last night, A-Rod has boosted his WAR from 2.2 to 2.7. That’s pretty cool, IMO.

    • YankeesJunkie

      It was pretty awesome I am not going to lie. He should have had another home run today if it were not for damn wind.

    • boogie down

      IMO2

  • Gonzo

    Anyone see how many SO’s Max Stassi has this year?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Holy crap.

    • Carlosologist

      He’s not even in Mark Reynolds territory yet.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Over a 31% k-rate. Awesome.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        He’s approaching the classic “ten times as many strikeouts as homers” pace.

        Also known as “The Juan Samuel Ratio”.

        • Gonzo

          Classic.

  • Yankee27

    Any further news on possible last minute draft signings by the Yankees?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

      They’ve already signed their top three picks. Life is good.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    So is the signing deadline midnight tonight, as in going into Monday morning, or is it midnight going into Tuesday?

    • YankeesJunkie

      Pretty sure it is Tuesday at 12 am EST. I will be shocked if Bryce does not sign with the Nats. You don’t turn down many offers for 10 million dollars.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Midnight tomorrow. ~28 hours from now.

  • Hughesus Christo

    Guys… is @yesmichaelkay actually dead? WHAT HAPPENED?

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Why in the FUCK are they starting this game? That field is not playable.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Remember when Mike Pelfrey was like a legit Cy Young candidate before the ASB?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Well let me clarify: his K/BB rates made me and I think others go :/ a bit even when his ERA was well under 2.50. But his regression was way worse than most expected, I think.

      • Zack

        He had a 4 game stretch where he gave up 52 base runners in 14.1 IP. That’s bad.

  • boogie down

    For all of my fellow Jet fans (or anyone who wants to chime in)… when do you think the Revis holdout will end? Also, what terms will the two sides agree to?

    I say Aug. 28th and 10 years, $120M w/ $40M guaranteed. Just spitballin’ here.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      I’ll play.

      Put me down for two days after the season opener and 8 years, 120M (15 per) with 45 guaranteed.

    • Gonzo

      I want to say they will guarantee $50mm. Although, I would love for him to sit out the year. I would love the drama.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    This tumblr rules

    http://baseballsecrets.tumblr.com/

    The only problem is that some of the stuff is like “MARIANO RIVERA IS AWESOME!!!!” and that’s… not really a secret.

    Also, the first two secrets are this –
    http://29.media.tumblr.com/tum.....o1_500.jpg
    (Hell no. And I didn’t even see today’s game, though I heard.)

    and this –
    http://29.media.tumblr.com/tum.....o1_500.jpg
    (YOU SPELLED HIS NAME WRONG >:()

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      I found Ron Dibble’s baseball secret:

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.t.....zZ3Tur0%3D

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        Nah, his would be like “I can’t stand actually going to baseball games because of those damn women talking about shopping all the time.”

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          I just submitted one. Let’s see if you can spot it when it gets posted.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      I know to each his/her own but Lincecum, really O_O

      http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.t.....%2BUxFA%3D

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig
      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        You mean “the man”? That’s Phil Coke.

        You mean who submitted the secret? I actually have a pretty decent idea but a. I don’t know for sure; b. it’s no one anyone here would know; and c. as it’s Baseball Secrets I wouldn’t reveal his/her identity anyway.

        • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

          I don’t care who sent it lol. I’m just confirming that this person feels that Phil Coke makes the entire trade worthwhile. Phil effing Coke.

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            If there’s a baseball player, there is a contingency of really enthusiastic female fandom around him. Trust me.

            • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

              Yeah I have a female friend who thinks Yadier Molina is hot.

              • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                He kind of is.

                …for a Molina brother, that is

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              This one made me laugh:

              http://24.media.tumblr.com/tum.....o1_500.png

              I wish the opposite, though. I can’t wait for a true sports superstar to come out of the closet and be gay, just to see the heads explode on homophobes everywhere.

  • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag

    To all who care, which is probably not many (or any), but I’m going to feed my ego by posting this anyway:

    Just a heads up, I’m going to be posting MUCH less as the season goes on. Nothing bad or anything like that, just got shit to do.

    Just an FYI.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      What a deuce bag you are.

      • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag

        A real teriost.

    • Zack

      Are you painting a centaur in your bedroom?

      • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag

        TSJC, I told you that was secret, dammit!!!

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama
    • Gonzo

      It’s all kinds of awesome! All you have to do is substitute Red Sox players for Yankee players and Theo for Cash, and viola! Or any high payroll team for that matter. It’s gold! Gold, I tell you Jerry!

      • JohnnyC

        He’s probably a disgruntled Mets fan who doesn’t yet realize that his team has 7 players under contract for ~$120 million in 2011. Happy New Year!

  • Gonzo

    Mike, what do you know about Mike Newman from Scouting the Sally? He hasn’t seen JR Murphy first hand, but he tweeted that he has heard that he’s not very good.
    http://twitter.com/Scoutingthe.....1184511555
    http://twitter.com/Scoutingthe.....1184645335

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I saw that. Seems to contradict what KLaw and Callis said recently.

      • Gonzo

        Exactly. Didn’t KLaw say he might be the CoTF?

        • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

          Crap on the farm?

          • Gonzo

            Catcher of the Future. I think I made a booboo by using CoTF instead of CotF.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Yep.

    • pat

      That kid’s a douche. He sees a couple games here and there and all of a sudden he’s qualified to flat out say someone is no good?

  • larryf

    Saw a note in the Times today that Jeter is sitting second in all time strikeouts for a Yankee between Ruth 3rd and Mantle 1st. He will probably break that record too! I wonder where he will end up in all time gidp standings

    • JohnnyC

      He’s already first with 228 GIDPs, five ahead of Bernie Williams and about 30 ahead of Mattingly. They’re the top 3 all-time Yankees for GIDP. Cal Ripken is #1 all-time with 350. Hank Aaron is second (328). There are about 10 active players with more GIDP than Jeter.

  • Zack

    Anyone else sick of the BP commercials? Nobody likes you, go away

    • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag

      Personally, I think the woman in the Sienna commercials is a real bitch.

      • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

        I have reached the point of “very annoyed” with the Progressive lady.

        • Gonzo

          I think she’s kinda hot in an annoying nerdy way.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Flo? She’s hot in a “do anything you want with a smile on her face” kind of way.

          • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

            Hah, she reminds me of the “someone’s got a case of the Mondays” chick.

        • boogie down

          Yes, absolutely.

          • JohnnyC

            I’m buying whatever Linda McMahon is selling!

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Over/Under: 10.5 national articles trashing Gardenhire.

    • Zack

      Probably over, and of course they wont mention that he missed his last start with an elbow issue

    • boogie down

      Over. I’m sure those writers will attach a distributive “yeah, but” to the facts that Slowey missed his last start due to elbow tendinitis, he had already thrown 106 pitches, the Twins are in the heat of a playoff race, and Slowey is more valuable if he’s healthy during the stretch run, something that’s more easily achieved if he isn’t pushed unnecessarily.

      I agree with Gardenhire’s move, especially at this juncture of the season.

      The team’s ultimate goal >>>>>>> One player’s personal achievement

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        The team’s ultimate goal >>>>>>> One player’s personal achievement

        Repeated for emphasis.

  • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

    I’d like to take this opportunity to thank Mr. John Carlos for losing to me so handily in fantasy this week, allowing my tepid push for a playoff spot to continue.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      I give because I love.

      I’m just looking forward to this offseason, when we have promotions/relegations and keepers. It’s gonna be epic.

  • Gonzo

    Is The Expendables worth going to see?

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      Yes

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Mythbusters just showed that bulls in a china shop will not break shit.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Ok, they were bulls in a china shop, but did they have a bull in a china shop mentality? That’s the key.

    • pat

      And that is why I love Mythbusters. That and Kari. I love me some Kari.

  • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

    Baseball-reference can be a real pain in the ass about recognizing names sometimes. Does anyone know a quick way to bring up J.R. Murphy, without having to scroll through all the Murphys?

    • http://twitter.com/cb8720 FIPster Doofus

      I Googled “jr murphy yankees baseballreference” and it came up right away: http://www.baseball-reference......rphy029joh

      • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

        Oh, well I meant if you’re already actually on B-R.

        • FIPster Doofus

          Then I can’t help you. Sorry.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Every time I type “baseball reference ike davis” it brings me to an old Ike Davis.

    • JohnnyC

      It recognizes J.R. Murphy not JR Murphy.

  • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag

    I just discovered the free youtube video-MP3 file converter.

    My life: Complete.

    I’m literally shaking right now.

    • http://twitter.com/iiKeane JobaWockeeZ

      Heh just now? Yeah it’s a great tool. Is it Zamzar or KeepVid?

      • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag

        No fucking idea. I found one on stumbleupon that didn’t work. I looked for another on goodsearch. It’s called “Video2MP3 Beta”.

        • poster on another computer who happens to be a deuce bag

          This just in: I am never, ever paying for a song again.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    You know what bums me out about that Coke/Pepsi ad? The guy playing the Pepsi driver was in Band of Brothers. Now he’s reduced to that? Bummer.

    • Ross in Jersey

      Isn’t that Richard Speight Jr.? If not, it looks a lot like him..

  • candyforstalin

    top ten american films of the 90’s.

    goodfellas (1990), martin scorsese
    unforgiven (1992), clint eastwood
    groundhog day (1993), harold ramis
    fargo (1996), ethan and joel coen
    buffalo ‘66 (1998), vincent gallo
    rushmore (1998), wes anderson
    the thin red line (1998), terrence malick
    magnolia (1999), paul thomas anderson
    the straight story (1999), david lynch
    the thomas crown affair (1999), john mctiernan

    an alternative list, consisting only of films starring natalie portman, is being made.

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      maybe it’s because I was really young at the time (12), but the thin red line was decidedly meh.

    • nsalem

      What would you say the theme of Magnolia was?
      What did you like about it?

      • candyforstalin

        i have this picture in my mind of paul thomas anderson and todd solondz (happiness) in a ring with frank capra.

        • nsalem

          Have you ever seen todd at all live. what a strange person, i saw him in an interview with conan just before the release of stroytelling, Conan could not deal with him. He really has dropped out of site since Pallindrones. I saw he cam out with a movie this year “Life During Wartime”. I think thats his first one since 03 or or.

          • candyforstalin

            i haven’t. i hated storytelling (with passion) and i din’t see palindromes.

            • nsalem

              I can see why. He’s really got into shock value. Welcome to The Dollhouse and Happiness were interesting but after that he went over the top. Never thought about it back then but I wonder if Welcome to The Dollhouse is a reference to Ibsen.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      I fucking LOOOOOVE Magnolia.

      I fucking HAAAAAATE Buffalo ’66.

      • nsalem

        Loved the Scott Norwood references in Buffalo 66 Gallo was a really creepy character. I could see where it was a turn-off. Magnolia was a great but one of the saddest movies I have ever seen. What did you love about it?

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          I loved the atmosphere, the music, and most of the characters. So uh. Basically everything. Haha.

          • candyforstalin

            aimee mann is just God being thriftless.

            • nsalem

              She didn’t come east for her xmas show last year. I saw her in July 09. I think her band fell victim to the recession and she used electronic drums and a couple of guys playing synthesizers. It just wasn’t the same. Unlike the Yankees she can not overcharge people to see her perform. Hope she finds away to bring them with her next time around.

              • candyforstalin

                she came here (portugal) twice but i didn’t go. concerts are not my thing.

          • nsalem

            Great Soundtrack Aimee Mann was terrificc, she’s still pissed that Save me lost to a Phil Collins song from Tarzan. She mentions it every time she performs it live. I love all of PT Andersen’s movie and Magnolia is probably my favorite. Almost all of the characters with the exception of Phillip Hoffman and John Reilly were really such pathetic and lost souls. What a great statement on the human condition. I still watch it at least twice a year.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Groundhog Day? Really? Bleh.

      I’ll keep Goodfellas, Unforgiven, Fargo, and The Thin Red Line from your list. Scratch ALL the others and replace them with:

      The Shawshank Redemption
      Reservoir Dogs
      Pulp Fiction
      Jackie Brown
      American Beauty
      Malcolm X
      American History X
      The Usual Suspects
      Glengarry Glen Ross
      L.A. Confidential
      Fight Club
      Boyz ‘N’ The Hood
      Se7en
      Miller’s Crossing
      A Few Good Men
      Three Kings
      Dazed and Confused
      Clerks
      Boogie Nights
      The Last of the Mohicans
      Saving Private Ryan
      Schindler’s List

      I’m sorry, but Groundhog Day probably isn’t one of the top 50 films of the 1990s. Not remotely.

      /arguingoverpersonalopinionsisprettypointless’d

      • nsalem

        Great list Would have left off Malcolm X (probably because of my love of the book) and I was comparing. I saw Reservoir Dogs when it came out in the theater in 1993. The scene where Tim Roth is bleeding out in the backseat of the car was so much more vivid at the movies as compared to the video. Still have not gotten over
        Shawshank losing to Forrest Gump for the best pic in 1994.
        Shawshank oddly enough had incredibly low box office numbers and only average reviews. Many famous reviewers really dumped on it
        and went back and reviewed the movie in a more friendly manner the second time after it became a major hit on the secondary market. Many older “art house” types are in love with Groundhog Day and compare it to It’s a Wonderful Life. I enjoyed but its nowhere enar the top of my lists.

      • candyforstalin

        groundhog day is fantastic. i like tarantino a lot but there’s no emotional connection. 90’s steven spielberg is just not good enough. david fincher’s films are like bad remakes of david mamet’s house of games. but no ron howard so we’re good.

        • nsalem

          House Of Games and Things Change were up there on my Mamet list.
          My favorite movies from that era were the early Hal Hartley’s
          Trust and Unbelievable Truth, and all of Jim Jarmusch especially Stranger Than Paradise and Dead Man. He even goofs on Tim McCarver in Mystery Train. The Roberto Begnini vignette in Night On Earth is the funniest ten minutes of film I have ever seen.

          • candyforstalin

            i never really liked hartley’s films. jarmusch i like a lot but haven’t seen anything prior to ghost dog.

            • nsalem

              Besides Trust and Unbelievable Truth most of what Hal has done is quite disappointing. Love all of Jarmusch except I couldn’t understand his last movie “Limits Of Control”.
              Many consider Stranger Than Paradise the seed that planted the independent movement of the 1990’s

              • candyforstalin

                i saw amateur, flirt and henry fool. none of them did anything for me. haven’t seen the limits of control yet. but early jarmusch i’ll definitely look into.

                • nsalem

                  definitely do very interesting stuff most of his movies revolve around the theme of a a stranger coming to a new place an the related feelings of alienation. Nice talking movies. 2 am on in New York and work is 6 short hours away. goodnight

  • Pat D

    Has anyone forced bex to explain her absence from today’s game thread yet?

    • Pat D
      • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

        Can someone explain the origin of calling Rob Dibble, “Ron”?

        • Pat D

          I think the other day when the discussion was centered on Rob Dibble’s sexist comments, someone called him “Ron Dibble” by mistake and then someone else said that sounded better and flowed easier than “Rob Dibble,” so that became the meme, apparently.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Sometimes I have a life. Doesn’t happen too often.

      • Pat D

        You know I’m just joking, right? I hope so.

        Your absence was noticed, that’s all.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          Oh yeah, I do. Apologies, that response sounds really snippy when I didn’t mean it to be that way at all.

  • Esteban

    I think Joe Namath just said mind bottling