Archive for August, 2010
Buyer Beware……….in 2015
Posted by: | CommentsFelix Hernandez recently became the 3rd youngest player since 1950 to reach 1000 career strikeouts. While the offseason extension he signed may have put a damper on the King Felix to NY dreams, he still will hit free agency at the age of 29. Next time around don’t expect much of a team friendly deal though, and the Yankees will certainly be in the mix barring a disaster for Felix on the way.
What are the odds of this disaster? As a young guy with a ton of pitches already on his arm, is he more predisposed to injury or burning out too soon? I decided to take a look at other pitchers who reached 1000 strikeouts before their age 26 season. Since 1950, 11 pitchers have done this. Let’s take a look at who they are and how they performed until they were 25 and how they performed from 29 (when Felix will likely become a FA) to 35.
Future Hall of Famer Bert Blyleven is 1st on the list. While he was still a very good pitcher, he saw decreases in his K/9 rate (to 6.7) and K/BB rate (to 2.79). Also, his ERA+ dropped from a stellar 132 to a decent 118. His best years certainly came before hitting 29 but he was very productive into his mid 30’s.
Everyone is aware of Dwight Gooden’s problems and his career certainly peaked early, but if his early workload was a factor(likely), it was only one of many. Doc certainly battled his demons throughout the years. Ages 29-35 were not pretty for Doc, with a 6.1 K/9, 1.44 K/BB and a 96 ERA+. He was done at the age of 35.
Sam McDowell’s last good year as a major league pitcher came at the age of 28 (after a league leading 305 innings at 27). He was done at 32. From 29-32 he was bad, with a 6.9 K/9, 1.23 K/BB and 87 ERA+. After a very solid start to his career, McDowell was out of the game at an age where Randy Johnson had just 104 wins.
Fernandomania is next. Even though he came along later than most of the guys on this group, Valenzuela still came up in an era where pitch counts were mostly ignored. While he also battled some conditioning issues, I think the workload certainly caught up to Fernando. After a stunning start to his career, Fernando’s last good season came at 25 and was less than mediocre after the age of 29. From 29-35 Fernando had a 4.8 K/9 ratio, 1.38 K/BB ratio and 91 ERA+. He retired at 36.
While Don Drysdale is in the Hall of Fame, his late career was not great and he retired at 32. From 29-32 his K/9 ratio was 5.8 with a strong 3.17 BB/9 ratio and about a league average ERA+ of 105. Leading the league in starts for 4 straight years from 25-28 (eclipsing 300 innings every year) certainly couldn’t have helped him in his twilight. He basically did nothing after the age of 28 that bolstered his Hall of Fame chances other than compile a few more wins.
Frank Tanana was a great young left handed fireballer (I’ve heard Jon Lester as a good comp.) who was one of the best pitchers in baseball before he hurt his arm. He came back and reinvented himself as a soft tosser. While he was pretty successful afterwards, he never again approached his early career success. From 29-35 he had ratios of 5.9 K/9, 2.12 K/BB and a 107 ERA+.
Denny McLain had some Gooden like off the field issues, but was out of baseball at 28 primarily due to serious arm problems. At ages 24 and 25 he threw 661 innings combined and threw just 384.1 the rest of his career. He appeared to be on his way to the Hall of Fame (114-57 thru 25) but clearly never came close. He never even reached his age 29 season, but from 26-28 he struck out just 4.3 batters per 9 with a 1.46 K/BB ratio and a 73 ERA+. The workload certainly got to McLain soon after he was old enough to rent a car.
Larry Dierker’s career got started at 17 (and think of how impressive what Jesus Montero is doing in AAA at the age of 20). Shockingly enough (or not shocking at all), Dierker was done at 30. At 29 and 30 Dierker had a 4.7 K/9, 1.34 K/BB and an 87 ERA+. Good thing he threw those 305 innings at the age of 22 though.
Former A and Yankee Catfish Hunter is up next, and while he stuck around long enough to be enshrined in Cooperstown (his worthiness is another discussion) Catfish’s career also ended early and his career as a great pitcher ended as soon as he hit 30. He actually wasn’t a great pitcher from 19-25 but racked up a ton of innings getting him plenty of strikeouts. His best years came from 25-29 but was about average after that. From 29-33 he struck out 4.5 batters per 9, had a 1.84 K/BB ratio and a 103 ERA+ that includes his 144 ERA+ at 29.
Last on the list is Joe Coleman who was done at 32 and threw just 378 innings after 29. He had a 4.9 K/9 and a 1.25 K/BB to go along with a 101 ERA+. At 18 he threw 93 innings between the minors and majors. At 19 it was 208. Too bad Tom Verducci wasn’t around to save the day.
I didn’t know what I was going to encounter when I started this post, but maybe Nolan Ryan should take a look. A lot of these guys burned out early and it would be interesting to see what they could have accomplished with today’s workloads and pitching programs. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that a lot of these guys were out of the game so early, and none of them could match their early successes. While I don’t think too much can be culled from these comparisons I think it’s interesting nonetheless. Clearly Felix has been groomed differently as a big money bonus baby whose every move and pitch has been tracked since he signed. Still, there is no guarantee he will be healthy down the road, and some believe you only have so many bullets in an arm before its shot. I hope Felix is sitting there as a big free agent at 29 because that will mean continued health and success for him. If he ends up on the Yankees down the road, lets just hope he breaks the mold of the list of guys above.
Noesi makes Triple-A debut in win
Posted by: | CommentsAdam Warren was In The Team Photo of this week’s Prospect Hot Sheet. Also make sure you check out Rebecca’s photos from last night’s SI game.
Triple-A Scranton (10-7 win over Lehigh Valley)
Kevin Russo, 2B & Greg Golson, CF: both 1 for 5 – Russo drove in a pair of runs & stole a base … Golson doubled & K’ed twice
Jesus Montero, C: 2 for 5, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI – nine for his last 26 (.346) with a double and two homers
Juan Miranda, 1B: 0 for 4, 1 R, 1 BB
Jorge Vazquez, 3B: 1 for 2, 3 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 2 BB, 1 E (fielding) – very nice night, save the error
Colin Curtis, RF: 1 for 3, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 K – 13 for his last 35 (.371) with seven freaking doubles
Chad Huffman, DH: 1 for 3, 2 R, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 2 K
Eric Bruntlett, SS: 2 for 4, 1 R, 1 2B, 2 RBI, 1 K
Reid Gorecki, LF: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 RBI – first game since August 13th … wow
Hector Noesi: 6 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 8-3 GB/FB – 54 of his 80 pitches were strikes (67.5%) … not a terrible AAA debut
Al Aceves: 1.2 IP, 2 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 2 HB, 0-3 GB/FB – just 22 of 42 pitches were strikes (52.4%) … second rehab beatdown in a row
Eric Wordekemper: 1.1 IP, zeroes, 1 K2-1 GB/FB – a dozen of his 16 pitches were strikes
Pettitte feels fine after bullpen session
Posted by: | CommentsVia Marc Carig, Andy Pettitte felt fine during his 25-pitch bullpen session today, though he did not throw with maximum effort. His next throwing session will come either Sunday or Monday.
With any luck, Andy will be able to throw with full effort next time around, which should put him in a position to throw a simulated game and then a rehab start a two. The minor league season ends in less than two weeks, so chances are he’ll have to make any rehab starts during the playoffs. That would be a pretty nice boost for the minor leaguers, no?
MLB investigating Nova, DeLaRosa
Posted by: | CommentsVia Baseball America, Major League Baseball is investigating both Ivan Nova and Wilkin DeLaRosa for allegedly injecting each other with B-12 shots while the two were teammates last season with Double-A Trenton. B-12 is not on MLB’s list of banned substances, but only licensed physicians are allowed to inject the medication without a subscription. And, of course, they want to make sure neither player injected themselves with something other than B-12.
I honestly don’t know what happens from here, if there’s a penalty or something since it’s not a banned substance. Hopefully nothing comes of this.
Sanchez dealing with some kind of arm injury
Posted by: | CommentsVia Donnie Collins, Romulo Sanchez is on the disabled list with some kind of arm injury. We first heard of his move to the DL last night, but no details were provided. Romulo was seen with a wrap around his right elbow in the clubhouse yesterday, but Collins’ says it could still be another part of the arm that’s bothering him.
Sanchez was reportedly going to be one of three players – along with Jon Albaladejo and Juan Miranda – the Yanks were set to call up on Sept. 1st, but obviously that’s not going to happen now. The only other pitcher in Triple-A on the 40-man roster is Hector Noesi, but I can’t imagine the Yanks will call him up so soon after promoting him from Double-A. Heck, he hasn’t even pitched for Scranton yet. Al Aceves should be ready to return soon, so chances are he and Albaladejo will be the only help the Yanks’ bullpen help gets in the first wave of call-ups.
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Mailbag: Killer B’s, Garcia, Wood, Bad Contracts
Posted by: | CommentsTime for another edition of the RAB mailbag, which I hope will one day be as awesome as KSK’s Sex/Fantasy Football Mailbag. Yes, I like to dream big. These week will discuss the futures of two prominent pitching prospects and one former prominent pitching prospect, whether or not Kerry Wood will be with the Yankees beyond this season, and my personal favorite, ugly contracts.
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Anonymous asks: Who do you like more, Betances or Banuelos on reaching their ceilings?
I like Manny Banuelos‘ chances of reaching his ceiling because he’s got a much better track record when it comes to the health of his arm. Yeah, he missed a big chunk of this season with an appendectomy, but that kinda stuff happens. Other than that, he’s had no arm problems during his time with the Yankees.
Betances, meanwhile, dealt with some nagging elbow issues before finally having reconstructive elbow surgery last year, and he also missed over a month with a sore shoulder back in 2008. He has yet to have a full, healthy season starting in April and finishing in September in his three-plus year career while Banuelos did it just last year. If you can’t stay healthy, you can’t stay on the field and develop into the best player you can be, so that’s why my pick is on ManBan.
Mike asks: Whats the latest on Christian Garcia? Is he back from injury and are the Yankees looking to re-signing him to a minor league deal?
In his interview with NoMaas this week, Mark Newman said they “haven’t had a discussion with (Garcia) or his agents about (rejoining the organization on a minor league deal). He’s got a ton of rehabbing to do.” It doesn’t get more reliable or up-to-date than that.
Anonymous asks: We all know about how poorly (predictably) Cashman’s moves have gone this year, and you’ve already talked about Kearns, but what are the chances of Kerry Wood staying with us? He seems completely revitalized by a playoff hunt and is throwing well. Will his closing experience put him out of our price range? Will we go cheap in the pen to sign Lee/Crawford/Werth etc?
Why is it predictable that his moves failed? So typical.
Anyway, the Yankees have gone cheap on the bullpen for three years now, and I really don’t expect that to change. Taking a one year, $1.2M flier on Chan Ho Park is a lot different than committing multiple years and big bucks to someone like Wood. Cashman has built the bullpen around cheap strikeout pitchers with enough depth that anyone who’s ineffective can be replaced with someone from Triple-A. It really is the best way to build a relief corps, having plenty of cheap and interchangeable options rather than putting all your eggs in one basket.
However, when I first read this question, something popped into my mind. Given his injury history and the current market, there’s zero chance Wood will get another multi-year deal worth $10M+ annually this winter. What if the Yanks could woo him with say, a one year deal worth $3M and incentives that could put another $5M or so in his pocket with the promise that if Mariano Rivera decides to call it a career after 2011, Wood gets the closer’s job as long as he’s healthy?
Obviously that’s a bit of a reach, because a guy with Wood’s pedigree should be able to find a closer’s job on the open market, and saves equals money the next time his contract is up. Maybe the lure of being Mo’s heir apparent is enough to keep him in pinstripes, but I’m sure his number one goal is to secure as much money in his next deal as possible to make sure he, his kids, and his kid’s kids never have to worry about a thing financially.
Kevin asks: If it was decided that every team could clear one contract from their payroll with no penalty, who do you think the Yankees would choose? A-Rod is such a vital part of the team, but they couldn’t blink on getting rid of those last seven years could they?
It has to be Alex Rodriguez. I love the guy, he’s a great player, the best I’ve seen in a Yankee uniform, but that contract is just awful. There’s still $174M and seven years left on that sucker after this season, and that doesn’t include the extra $30M he could earn thanks to the historic homerun milestones. There’s basically no chance of A-Rod retiring before the contract is up and forfeiting whatever is left on it because we’re talking generational wealth here. And you know what? If I was in the same boat as him, I’d do the same thing.
I love the guy, but I’m sorry, I’d shed him and his contract in a cocaine heartbeat if given the opportunity. I think A.J. Burnett‘s would be a close second, or maybe I could preemptively say whatever Derek Jeter gets after the season, which is almost assured of being too much for too long.
With finances laid bare, what future revenue sharing?
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Earlier this week, a leak rocked the baseball world. Now, this wasn’t your run-of-the-mill steroid leak. This wasn’t news of a player traded, suspended or otherwise disgraced. This was a meaty, juicy leak of MLB’s hard-to-find financial information, laid bare for all to see.
The documents, originally posted on Deadspin included the Pirates, Rays, Marlins and Angels in one leak, the Mariners in another and the Rangers in a third. The numbers are in line with what most industry-watchers perceived them to be. Small market teams have been, thanks to revenue sharing, turning small profits while putting teams of varying quality on the field. It’s not so much an outrage as it is a giant question mark for the future of the game and baseball’s next collective bargaining sessions in 2011.
Over at the Biz of Baseball, Maury Brown contextualizes the numbers in the documents. Since two of the clubs — the Angels and the Mariners — dole out revenue sharing money while three others — the Marlins, Pirates and Rays — receive it, we can see the disparity between the haves and the have-nots.
Florida, for instance, had a combined net income of $32 million over the past two seasons while receiving over $90 million in revenue sharing. The Rays had a net income of $15 million while taking it $74 million in other team’s money. If Yankee fans want to a bit jilted, they have every reason to. In a sense, our team is paying to compete against Tampa Bay this year.
This glimpse at the numbers leaves us wanting more. We don’t know how the Yankees’ finances look; we can’t see the Red Sox’s books. We can only guess from the Angels’ ledger — and their $30 million revenue sharing charge — the top-tier teams must contribute to Major League Baseball’s pot. Without a full sense of how each of the 30 clubs are doing, it’s tough to issue many conclusions about the state of revenue sharing and the luxury tax in baseball, but we can try.
Maury Brown, writing this time for Fangraphs, already has. In a piece earlier this week, he made the case for increased revenue sharing. Even though teams are seemingly overly subsidized, Brown wants to see what he terms “salary compression.” Because, as he puts it, “subsidizing clubs at the current levels that continue to lose repeatedly may not be incentivizing them to move up the standings,” the top teams’ spending must be reined in while revenue sharing continues in an effort to level the playing field.
Over at Sports Illustrated, Joe Sheehan has a different proposal. He would prefer to see Major League Baseball establish a market size-based model of revenue sharing. Instead of a welfare system where mediocrity — or downright losing — is constantly rewarded, Sheehan too pushes for something that can create economic parity by adjusted for the market. “If a team does a particularly good job of leveraging its market to make money,” he writes, “they shouldn’t be penalized for that. Similarly, if a large-market team becomes a sad joke, they shouldn’t get bailed out by dipping into the fund. Revenue-sharing shouldn’t be punishment for failure or reward for success; it should be a tool to create a fair and level field of competition.”
Should we, as Yankee fans, be satisfied with either of these answers? After all, although revenue sharing is billed as a way to penalize all of the teams, its primary purpose is to limit the Yankees’ natural economic advantages, and thus, any revenue sharing/luxury tax proposal will inevitably hit the Yankees the hardest. Some might say that if the Yankees are unhappy, the revenue sharing is doing the job, but as long as the Bombers are outspending everyone by significant margins, MLB’s shot at parity isn’t working.
It’s easier to say first what shouldn’t happen. MLB can’t simply increase revenue sharing money that goes to the teams without money. An extra $5 million in the pockets of the Pirates won’t help them become competitive. Perhaps it will allow them to spend more at draft time, but the two-win player $5 million can buy on the free agent market will be the difference between a 90-loss season and a 92-loss season. Fans won’t come out in droves for that quality of play.
Major League Baseball also cannot put itself in a position of penalizing owners for making a profit. It’s easy to fault the Pirates and the Marlins for taking millions out of their baseball clubs while the Yankees invest millions in the on-field product, but that’s a calculated business decision. Owners get into the game to make money, and the $10 million will do just as much on the field as it will in the pockets of an ownership group. The Yanks shouldn’t be paying out more dollars just so that the Pirates owners can enjoy higher profits from a team that’s consistently losing.
So we’re left trying to find some economic incentive to invest. Maybe baseball should allow revenue sharing for small market clubs on the verge of competitiveness. On a case-by-case basis, MLB can assess how much money a team would need to field a competitive club. Of course, this would lead to a situation where non-competitive clubs see their margins shrink. In essence, this could create contraction by market forces as the clubs that don’t compete can’t and are no longer viable MLB teams. The union would demand an expansion of the active rosters, but baseball would see the gap shrink between the haves and the have-nots simply by economic attrition.
Despite this glimpse into baseball’s tortured economics, we’re left where we started: with few real answers and no good solution to a problem that will dominate headlines for the coming year. Baseball certainly has a competitive imbalance as the Yankees and the Red Sox can pump more money into their teams in one season than some clubs can in three. Even as we learn more and more about baseball teams’ ledgers, to solve this problem while encouraging competitiveness remains an ever elusive goal.





