Sep
08

Open Thread: Thanks, Swish

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(AP Photo/Bill Kostroun)

It’s amazing how one swing of the bat can make us all forget about that abomination of a game, and really the last four games. The Yankees played generally awful and uninspired baseball against the Orioles this series, yet Nick Swisher managed to send them into the road trip and tomorrow’s off-day on a high note. Amazingly enough, Swish’s walk-off shot today comes exactly one year after his last walk-off shot, which came against the Rays. Pretty cool.

Anyway, here’s your open thread for the evening. The Red Sox and Rays are on ESPN, and that’s pretty much it for baseball on the national channels. You guys know what to do by now, so have at it.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW
    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

      Oh, and, greatest or most disturbing viral campaign ever?

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/f.....971743987/

      • Carlosologist

        (looks for phone)
        (dials number)

        /half kidding

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          What the hell is that even advertising for?

          • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

            A movie

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            a movie

            • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

              Thanks Becca(s)

              I refuse to go look it up, because then the advertising would work in a sense….

            • seimiya

              This.

  • Carlosologist

    What a great way to end the afternoon. I had a good second day as a freshman and I saw Swish’s walkoff shot on my phone.

  • vin

    Swish really bailed the team out today. On the bright side, Alex seems to be making good contact. We all know what he can do for this team when he’s going well.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      8.1 innings of mostly agony, then AWESOME

    • Eirias

      Sure, the offense was miserable, but the pitching was great.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Overall, my prediction proved to be prophetic.
    plz to be making this a meme.

    http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....mon-etc-go

    • Carlosologist

      People like that piss me off.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      lol, wow. What a whiney douche. I probably shouldn’t talk, but man, talk about tooting your own horn.

    • Chris

      The guy [Granderson] has no plate discipline and can’t hit lefty.

      But I’m sure he can hit great righty!

    • esteban

      That guy is crazy, and wrong on several points.

      • A.D.

        Yup poorly constructed argument

    • Accent Shallow

      I thought Bleacher Report was a legit site. Clearly not the case if they’ll publish this sub-literate crap.

      (Regardless of content, this guy can’t write. Eeek)

    • Scooter

      It’s right up there in meme-dom with
      “Everything went better than expection. Regards Uncle Dolan”
      http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/.....lanjob.jpg

    • Ed

      That was painful. You can feel your IQ drop as you read it.

    • Once and Future Lurker

      If you read this as satire, it’s actually pretty good.

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    Did you guys see this article about why Perez and Castillo didn’t join the Mets to a trip to a Veteran’s hospital?

    http://www.nj.com/mets/index.s....._walt.html

    To save you the jump, Castillo said:

    “I didn’t go because I didn’t want to see that,” Castillo said.

    “I don’t answer,” Perez said, “anything about outside the stadium.”

    Class acts, those guys.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I’m pretty sure the vets didn’t even notice they were missing.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

        +42.

        Beltran’s excuse seemed, to me, passable. Giving him the benefit of the doubt at any rate.

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          Yeah, I was only talking about Perez and Castillo, because those excuses are hella lame.

          Beltran gets a bad rap, I dunno why. Dude is like the only Met that has insane postseason stats. I guess Met fans can’t forgive him for taking that called strike three in 2006.

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            That’s exactly it, the called strike 3 – never mind that he basically won Game 1 of that series for them. That and his first year as a Met was pretty bad, IIRC.

            • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

              .266/.330/.414 in his first year with them, so yeah you’re right. He flat out raked in 2006 though. Plus didn’t he offer to play for the Yankees for less money but got turned down?

              • vin

                That’s actually not far off from Jeter’s current line if he can just get a few XBH.

                • Accent Shallow

                  Yeah, that’s happening.

                  /weeps

          • Magnus Stultus

            If the Mets eat part of Beltran salary , say 6 mil or so, would you be interested as the Yankees. It’s unlike the two teams will ever trade, but hypothetically , any interests?

            • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

              No way.

            • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

              He’s owed 18 million next year, so even assuming the Mets pick up 6, you’re talking about paying 12 million to a guy coming off serious knee surgery.

              On top of that, our outfield is locked in for next year unless Cash decides to sell high on Gardner. Even if that happens, I don’t see a fit for Carlos.

    • vin

      Since I no longer live in NY, I don’t worry too much about what the Mets are doing. However, they really are a bad franchise. They’ve got a bad mix of players. A crazy front office. An owner who wishes he owned the Dodgers. It’s really too bad.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

    Oh hey, look, it’s Ben! http://www.flickr.com/photos/f.....972338200/

    I was actually sitting on the other side of the Stadium, two levels down. I love my camera.

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      what the hell kind of a camera do you have to zoom in THAT much

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

        Canon SX20 IS. It’s a point and shoot, which means the price is a lot lower than it’d be for a DSLR. One of my best investments ever.

    • Accent Shallow

      Is that Ben? Or just some guy who could be Ben?

    • thurdonpaul

      where you trying to look up that girls dress ? :)

  • Eirias

    Pitching Wakefield. Such drive for the playoffs.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      But but… ESPN told me this was a must-win for the Red Sox!

      • Neil

        Yeah, they tend to say stuff like that when they’re showing the game on ESPN.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      It’s smarter than pitching Buchholz on short rest with little notice, especially considering how careful they’ve been with him (for good reason). They’d basically have to sweep this series to keep their playoff hopes alive. When they lost the second game, I guess they figured there was no point.

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    Oh wow, when did the Red Sox call up Lars Anderson? This is Theo’s can’t miss hitting prospect right?

  • JFH

    per lohud….

    “This was the Yankees’ fourth walk-off win and major-league-leading 44th comeback win.”

    At what point is a comeback win considered a comeback win? If we comeback from being down in the 2nd inning, is that a comeback, for statistical purposes? (serious question).

    I ask, because it seems that wins like today are more rare than last year. Not specifically the walk-off, but at least late inning comebacks. Am I off base with that assumption?

    I sure am happy with Swish’s dinger.

    • vin

      I believe a comeback is recorded if you trailed at any point in the game. Pretty lame, and definitely not very telling.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

      You’re not off base, but I wouldn’t read too much into it:

      1) Last year was noted for how many there were–ie, a feat unlikely to be repeated, and

      2) a walk off or late inning come back involces a lot of luck and playing close the entire way. This year’s team has won a lot more comfortable, blow-outish games.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      If they’re at home and they’re down 1-0 after the top of the first, and they win the game, that’s considered a “comeback win.” FWIW.

      I have no idea but all the walk-offs in 2009 gave the impression that they had a lot of late-inning comebacks. It’s probably at least partially a confirmation bias thing. People don’t seem to realize that a year like last one with the walk-offs just isn’t all that likely to happen on any sort of regular basis.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      I assume it just means that they won a game in which they were trailing at some point. In other words, a pointless stat.

      And hey, just off the top of my head we had the dramatic Thames walkoff off Papelbon, and that epic comeback off Broxton in LA as examples of late-inning comebacks.

      • seimiya

        I’m thinking about that Thames-won game in Texas a few weeks back. /swoons.

  • Slappy White

    Any news on the Jesus situation ?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

      @frankpiliere (sp) is reporting that it’s an infection, don’t know anything beyond that.

    • Nick

      SWBYankees has it listed as a lower leg infection and day-to-day. Nothing beyond that.

      http://blogs.thetimes-tribune.com/yankees/?p=7287

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

        Eeeesh

  • mike c

    john buck might be seeing yankee bucks after this season with the posada scare and a potential premature jesus for next year

    • mike c

      he’s 2.8 WAR and holding a .306 OBP, is he that good defensively?

    • Magnus Stultus

      I would have taken Rod Barajas over Cerv which I am pretty sure they gave him away to the Dodgers.
      I also like Josh Thole on the Mets. He seems to be a high contact hitter in the John Jaso mode.

  • vin

    I saw in the fangraphs chat today that Dave Cameron thinks Roy Halladay is a HOFer if he never pitches another game.

    Definitely caught me by surprise. His HOF statistics per B-R are pretty much there (or close enough).

    Positives:
    Considered one of the 2-3 best pitchers in the game for the past 9 years. Doesn’t walk anyone, which helps him throw tons of innings. Pitched in the toughest division in baseball all these years.

    Negatives:
    He’s only had 7 seasons in which started more than 21 games. Never really a big strikeout pitcher (his sinker is too good of a weapon). Never pitched in the postseason (obviously not his fault).

    To me, there are three types of HOF pitchers…
    1) guys who had really good long careers (Spahn)
    2) guys who had incredible peaks (Koufax)
    3) guys with a combination of the first two (Clemens, Maddux, Johnson, and other slam-dunks)

    Doc doesn’t really fit into any of those categories. His peak has been really good, but not Pedro or Koufax good. Only starting more than 21 games 7 times definitely hurts him.

    He wouldn’t be in my HOF. He almost certainly wouldn’t be in the old-guard’s HOF. Perhaps the SABR’s HOF would accept him.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      He’s won 20 games twice, that might help the old guard. They’ll also cite his dominance pitching on a bad team in the toughest division in baseball, during and after the steroid era.

      His 2008 season might fulfill that “peak” too.

      From the statistical approach, tough to make the argument. His ERA+ doesn’t wow you and he doesn’t have the longevity yet so you can’t make the case for “if he never throws another pitch” like you said.

      • whozat

        Yeh. I expect he’ll put up several more very-good-at-least years in Phillie, which will make him a slam-dunk. But, I don’t know that I could put him in right now.

        Is the argument that he’s an on-the-bubble-but-could-make-it kind of guy right now? Or a Jeter/ARod/Mo kind of “if he was done yesterday, he’s in in the first year or two” kind of guy?

        • vin

          Cameron didn’t seem to have much hesitation in today’s chat. I was just caught off guard, and there were no follow up questions on the issue.

          He’d probably be a Blyleven type guy. Not get much support initially, but will gain momentum as time goes by (and during those years where there’s no certain candidates).

          I always find HOF discussions fascinating.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Boston Red Sox. WHAT ARE YOU DOING???

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      as I was saying -_____-

    • Kit

      Being hopeless, which is not surprising at all.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        I’d normally laugh but I actually want those MFers to win today

        • Kit

          I’m having one of my usual internal conflicts where I don’t know whether I want them to win or lose. Winning would help us out a lot, but I really hate Boston.

          • seimiya

            I just want Tim Wakefield to win, who I like. Everyone else can fall over.

  • Cecala

    Anyone else excited to see the double rainbow guy on Tosh.0 tonight?

    Just in case anyone here has not seen the double rainbow
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI

    • vin

      Sweet. My DVR is ready. Love that show.

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    I’m awfully tired of ESPN and people in particular saying the Rays have a much better rotation than the Yankees. Especially now that we can reasonably assume Pettitte will be back in a week or two.

    The Yankees have:

    CC Sabathia – shutdown lefty ace. No concerns.
    Andy – solid #2
    AJ – wildly inconsistent, but capable of spinning a gem
    Hughes – young pitcher who’s been up and down

    The Rays have:

    Price – shutdown lefty ace. No concerns!
    Garza – solid #2
    Shields – ERA over 5 in the last couple months, capable of spinning a gem
    Davis – young pitcher who’s coming off injury

    I mean… they’re awfully close. I’d take Shields over AJ but other than that? I don’t see this “huge” difference that people keep referencing.

    • Cecala

      Boston still has 5 aces no matter how much you compare the AL East pitching

    • Kit

      Listening to ESPN is like losing brain cells, for me, so I typically ignore their bullshit. I can see why they give Tampa’s rotation a lot of compliments, because it’s pretty good, but they have the same issues that we have, their pitchers are just younger. I just think that since they’ve been able to have more series wins against the Yankees and Boston, it qualifies them as the better rotation.

      • Slappy White

        I dont really think that you believe they are better than a rotation that has 5 ACES……..5

        • Kit

          I don’t believe it, that’s ESPN’S doing. I believe in the FIVE. ACES. FIVE, SLAPPY. FIVE.

          • Slappy White

            If not for the INJURIES

          • David (In Seattle)

            uhhhh….. Ten aces when you include Casey Kelly, 13 aces when Kelly learns to switch pitch

      • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

        Yeah, I just have a problem labeling them as better. They’re almost eerily similiar (AJ – Shields, Niemann – Javy) yet it isn’t portrayed that way.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          I think it’s because Tampa Bay got off to such a hot start, pitching-wise.

        • Kit

          Yep. I was going to add Niemann is the poor man’s version of Javy, but I like Javy and didn’t want to insult him.

    • vin

      And I’d take a healthy Pettitte over Garza – given how well he had been pitching this year, plus he’ll have a fresh arm, and ample postseason experience (fwiw).

    • mike c

      i’m still pushing for javy to be AJ’s life preserver for october. his endurance is questionable with the dead arm stuff, but he has shown as of late that he has the stuff to shut down potential meltdowns coming out of the pen early

    • Jake

      I think part of the difference is that Pettitte has been out for a while. It’s no guarantee that, at his age, he will step right back in and pitch as effectively as he was. The Rays also have Hellickson. I agree that the gap between the two rotations is not as drastic as the MSM makes it out to be, but I would still give the Rays the edge.

    • seimiya

      I don’t know if you left out the total lacking of #5 starters here, but Jeff Neimann has been a mess since coming off the DL, and the Yankees have some combination of Nova/Vazquez/Moseley. Nova, the 23-year-old rookie, has been the most impressive.

  • forensic

    MLB Network:

    “Playoff preview on Saturday with Derek Jeter and the Yankees vs. Vladimir Guerrero and the Rangers.”

    Really guys??? I know it’s all about name recognition, but with all the really good players on both teams couldn’t you have picked two guys who haven’t been completely terrible for at least the entire second half of the season?

  • Kit

    So can anyone clear up my confusion over the Yankees rotation. I know Moseley is going in for Phil, but who goes when? If I’m not mistaken it should be Javy, Moseley, and AJ against Texas (and now that it’s written out, it worries me). Is that right?

    • vin

      Here’s my post from earlier today:

      So it looks like the rotation for next week will be:

      mon – CC (5 days rest) @ tampa
      tues – Andy (4 days rest – if he only needs the 1 rehab start) @ tampa
      wed – Hughes (a bunch of rest as mentioned) @ tampa
      thurs – OFF DAY
      fri – Javy? (6 days) @ bal
      sat – AJ? (6 days) @ bal

      The playoff rotation will probably look like that, except with AJ getting the start over Javy. I bet they use that Thursday off day to give everyone an extra day of rest.

      • Kit

        So is the Javy, Moseley, AJ combo versus Texas still a go?
        And thanks. I’m hoping Andy only needs one rehab start, but I feel that it’s unlikely.

    • forensic

      Javy Friday, AJ Saturday, Moseley Sunday, CC Monday. Then it depends on Pettitte or Nova on Tuesday, then Hughes Wednesday.

      • Kit

        Cool beans. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

  • vin

    Beltre with the contract push.

  • Jose the Satirist

    I loved every minute of this afternoon’s game. You can’t give up on games and even when down you still gotta have faith. Maybe I’m just a zen master. I liked reading through the thread afterwards.

    “THe Yankees Took the Orioles lightly and they are about to be swept by them.”

    “Jorge better fucking be hurt.”

    “maybe we need to lose 8 in a row to change this line up”

    • Kit

      I’m kind of glad I wasn’t around to read the thread.

    • Slappy White

      You left out the gem that if we lost it was like 4 un-wins from the 8 game win streak

      • Kit

        And the comparisons to the Padres last night. If we lose 4 in a row, we will also lose 10.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          and the “in an ideal world, we would win 8, lose 1-2, then win 45, lose 1…” In an ideal world the Yankees would be 162-0.

      • esteban

        I still don’t understand how that works.

    • whozat

      The “took them lightly” argument is hilarious to me.

      Do people think that these incredibly driven professionals, who are managed and coached by incredibly driven professionals, were like “nah, all that prep work I usually do? Screw it. I don’t need to watch video for these pitchers.”

      Really? Did CC walk in yesterday with his shot for 20 wins and say “Shut up, Dave, I don’t need a scouting report”?

      • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

        Did CC walk in yesterday with his shot for 20 wins and say “Shut up, Dave, I don’t need a scouting report”?

        For some reason I found this really funny. I’m playing it out in my head and it’s even funnier.

      • Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Blog

        It’s funny, I’m totally with you on this. However, I thought it was odd the other night when Garza gave his “hair on fire” speech and basically said he was gonna bring it to the Orioles.

        Does that mean the time they beat him up he wasn’t trying as hard as he could?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Reading through the thread after we won was the most amazing/horrifying thing. Just… the stupidity and the hostility. Wow.

  • Eirias

    Holy shit has Broxton imploded this year. Why?

    • Kit

      Joe Torre. That is all.

      (No, I’m kidding, but Torre’s bullpen management probably has something to do with it.)

      • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

        Don’t you dare question the manager!

        But yeah, Torre using him each and every day probably didn’t help.

      • Magnus Stultus

        Scott Proctor , Vizcaino, and Gordon are just few of the names I can think of.

        • Kit

          I always think of Scott Proctor at any mention of Torre’s bullpen management and I feel fucking terrible for him.

          • vin

            Paul Quantrill says “hi.”

            95 innings in 2004. For a team that went on to win 101 games, and clinched a playoff spot by 10 games.

            • Kit

              I laughed a little. And felt bad. Sorry Paul.

              • vin

                Everyone always points to the handling of bullpens as a key difference between Girardi and Torre. But to me it’s much more than that.

                Torre operated his pen like a puppet master. He must’ve felt like he was bigger than the relief pitchers, and therefore he could over/under work them as he desired.

                He probably figured that he’s the one who gets the blame if the team blows a lead, so why should he risk losing the media and fans’ and ownership’s faith by letting Gordon or Proctor sit on the bench. It’s his neck on the line (or so he thought).

                On the other hand, Girardi has gone out of his way, numerous times, to say that he’s not just concerned about winning games, but also not jeopardizing players’ careers. Perhaps the ownership change has had something to do with that (ie giving more power to the sane Brian Cashman).

                They really are different managers.

                • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                  I wouldn’t go that far with Torre. I don’t think he was evil or whatever. But whenever Girardi gets snippy with the media about how he really cares about protecting his pitchers, I get very tingly.

                  • vin

                    No, I don’t think he was being evil about it. I think Torre was just taking the “them or me” approach to managing. He probably didn’t want to lose his high-paying managing job so Luis Vizcaino could play another 5 years.

                    In the past I would’ve given him the benefit of the doubt, but his book really hurt his credibility in my eyes. He’s not interested in protecting players, or keeping certain things private. He’s only interested in covering his own behind.

                    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                      Gotcha – fair point. That book knocked him down a lot for me too.

                • Kit

                  I don’t think Torre was intentionally sadistic or anything. I just think he had a lot of faith in certain players and tended to abuse them.

      • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

        On June 27, 2010. Joe Torre fell asleep in the dug out with Broxton on the mound. 48 pitches later, he woke up and took him out.

        Before June 27:

        ERA: 0.83
        BA: .217
        OBP: .254
        SLG: .258
        OPS: .512

        June 27 to present day:

        ERA: 7.77
        BA: .309
        OBP: .398
        SLG: .464
        OPS: .862

        • Kit

          That is still one of my favorite games of the season, but that was the starting point of his implosion. Sorry, Broxton, but plenty of Yankee relievers have felt your pain.

        • vin

          I was thinking about that game after I saw Papelbon threw nearly 50 pitches in his blown save to the Chi Sox.

          Torre really painted himself into a corner when he had Broxton start that inning, despite having a 4 run lead, and working the night before (if memory serves).

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            He’d pitched four out of the previous five days and had warmed up in the one he didn’t pitch in, I believe.

            http://mikesciosciastragicilln.....w-i-guess/

            (It’s a Dodger blog but it’s FANTASTIC, highly recommended.)

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      He honestly hasn’t been the same since the Yankee series. I think he’s been overworked the past few years and it all came to a head there.

  • Magnus Stultus

    Is anyone rooting (against) for Pods to collapse utterly? My proxy team du jour is the Giants , go Buster!

    • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

      I don’t have anything against Scott Podsednik.

      • Accent Shallow

        I do.

        Screw that guy.

    • vin

      When it comes to rooting for or against NL teams, I always think about what would happen if the Yanks faced the team in the WS. Needless to say, I’m rooting for the Padres.

    • seimiya

      Because my team will never be the “feel-good team” of the playoffs, I always like other feel-good teams getting in so I can root for them up until the World Series (or whenever they face my Yankees).

      So, I’m for the pods. I’m in the Bay Area, but the A’s are my team du jour, because they’re so cute and scrappy.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    I’m going to Trenton tomorrow. Oh boy.

    • Kit

      I’m jealous. TAKE PICTURES.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        he’s gonna have high socks omfg

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          I wonder if they’ll let you browse RAB from Trenton regional lockup? ;)

        • Kit

          And this is why I wish I had a car. *cries into hands*

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            I don’t have a car. I’m gonna be on public transportation for like 15 hours tomorrow. FOUR INNINGS OF PETTITTE IN HIGH SOCKS IS TOTALLY WORTH IT THOUGH

            • Kit

              Where do you live?! 15 hours is terrible, but I guess it would be worth it.

              • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                It’s an exaggeration, I won’t be on public transportation THAT much ;) I have to travel into the city, then take the ~75 minute train from the city to Trenton. And back.

        • seimiya

          I AM SO FREAKING JEALOUS OF YOU BEXY.

          I WISH I WAS IN JERSEY :(

          PLEASE TAKE VIDEO OF YOU TACKLING HIM ON THE MOUND.

      • Accent Shallow

        Taken out of baseball context, these comments are hilarious.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          Agreed.

    • Slappy White

      To see Andy ? we wont be reading about you Friday morning, will we ?

    • Cecala

      DOTF: RAB Regular Kidnaps Andy Pettitte

      After 5 solid innings fighting through the scorching Trenton heat, RAB regular Bexarama jumps out of the stands and grabs the hot and sweaty Andy Pettitte. I don’t think hes going to want to spend more time with his family after this one.

    • CBean

      I was really really tempted to take the day off and go myself but I’ve barely actually been in the office for meetings the last week or so and it would be frowned upon. Tell Andy we love him and we miss him.

  • bonestock94

    I bet the people calling for Girardi’s head feel dumb now.

    In other news I just grabbed a pair of box seats for Yanks at O’s in a couple of weeks. Very excited, heard Camden Yards is beautiful. I hope I draw a CC or Pettitte start.

    • vin

      Not for nothing, but I hope you draw a Chad Gaudin or Sergio Mitre start. ;)

      • bonestock94

        Exactly what I’m scared of lol.

    • Cecala

      I am sitting behind the plate, the prices were so much cheaper than Yankee Stadium it was amazing

      • bonestock94

        Nice! I grabbed up some box seats off of stubhub, the good seats were gone from the official box office.

        • larryf

          I’m going on Sunday without tix. Gonna buy the cheapest and move down. Easy to do at Camden when the home team is 35-40 games out….

  • Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Blog

    Hey, I just wanted to apologize to Ross for jumping into the game thread late and starting with a personal attack.

    I don’t get into game threads very often, but I did it poorly today.

    I hope to come in another time and talk about the game threads and how people react to things, but I won’t do it now for fear that I would be implicating Ross for stuff that he hasn’t done.

    Go Yankees.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      I guess I’m stupid because I can’t tell if this is a true apology or a backhanded insult.

      Either way, sorry for overreacting to your comments. I was frustrated at the time (like we all were) and was astonished that you skipped over all the retarded comments (including the guy wishing for Jeter to get beaned in the head) to get on me for saying “I could manage better than this”.

      I don’t mean to make a newcomer feel unwelcome here.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        The guy who wanted Jeter to get beaned in the head came really late. And was obviously completely unacceptable and I’m glad Mike told him to die. /honesty’d

      • Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Blog

        No, was sincere. I also wanted to talk about the people like beanball Jeter guy, but since I had mentioned you in the comment I didn’t want to associate you with people like that.

        Although I change handles and I’m not around much, I’m not a newbie.

  • Magnus Stultus

    I think it should be mandatory for Yankee Players to wear Cervelli size helmet. Just in case , it would also be a funny sight to observe.

    • Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Blog

      Isn’t there a new one out there now that’s not Gazoo sized?

      • bonestock94

        I always thought that was the new one, and players refuse to wear it.

  • Kit

    All I heard just now was Mike Scioscia three times in one sentence. Shut up, ESPN.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      S-s-s-s-cioscia face, S-s-scioscia face

      • seimiya

        Bexy, I want to punch you in the face right now.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          That’s not nice. :(

  • bonestock94

    I am moderately pleased at this development

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    Dammit, whyyyyy did I start Garza tonight in my fantasy playoffs :(

    Oh well, 3rd place game here I come

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Hey Boston! Thanks for stopping the herpderping. Of course, this comes down to your bullpen vs. Tampa’s bullpen so that won’t be pretty so uh.

    • Kit

      Keep hitting, mofos.

      /internal conflicts

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

    Why’s it so windy?

  • forensic

    With the three ugly pitching matchups clearly in Texas’ favor this weekend, how awesome would it be to somehow go in there and still take 2 of 3. Not expecting it, but it sure would be a nice surprise.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      Texas hasn’t exactly been lighting it up recently. Chances are Hamilton won’t be in the lineup and I doubt we’ll see Lee on Sunday with his back issues.

      The Rangers should actually be thanking the Yankees, sweeping Oakland did them a pretty big favor. If that series went differently the As could theoretically only be a few games back of them right now.

      • Kit

        I’m not sure about Cliff, but seeing as how Hamilton needed two weeks last year to recover from the same injury, he probably won’t be in there. They’ve been scuffling of late. It would be nice to see Javy and AJ get it together against a solid, competitive team.

        • Kit

          I just read that Cliff will be making his start against us on Sunday.

          BOO, CLIFF! BOO!

          • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

            Man, I wouldn’t mess around with a bad back. They better not be damaging our future goods!

            *shakes fist*

            • forensic

              I’ve never fully been in the camp of wanting Lee for some reason. And this really pushes me even further away from it. He would really worry me now for a long term investment.

              • Kit

                You’re probably worrying for nothing. Lee is an awesome pitcher and I’d rather see him on our team than on any other where he could be a threat. The random injuries that don’t land him on the DL are no worse than the starting rotation shuffling that has gone on with Javy. You’re also forgetting that other teams aren’t as careful with their players as the Yankees are.

            • Kit

              I hated it when he was pitching CG’s for the Mariners, so I’m definitely worried about this (though it’s mostly because I want him to sit out and give us a chance to win). Though if he gets hit around I wouldn’t be mad at that either.

      • forensic

        Yeah, they’ve been playing even worse than the Yanks, but they still have a pretty significant starter’s advantage in the game. I do expect Lee to play (I like to plan for the worst), but hopefully the Yanks treat him like everyone else treated him for about a month. It would be really nice if Hamilton wasn’t playing though.

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          “Even worse” than the Yanks? They’re 9-3 in their last 12!

          Anyway, sure, they have the advantage, plus Kinsler is back and hitting well. Still, games with Texas seem to turn into a battle of the bullpens, and I’ll take the Yankees pen any day.

          • forensic

            Yeah, 9-3, but 4 of those were against Oakland and then the 3 game losing streak of pretty ugly baseball makes it not quite as nice as it could be.

            The bullpens probably lean toward the Yanks a bit, but the season numbers are actually pretty damn close (though the Yanks blow them away recently).

            • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

              4 of those were against Oakland

              So? They might not be a contender but it’s not like they’re awful. We beat up Anderson, Cahill, and Braden, too – three pretty darn good pitchers.

              • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

                Hell, the entire Oakland rotation is pretty legit. It’s their offense that sucks.

                That, and it’s never easy to sweep a team, let alone in four games. The last three days should’ve proved that.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

    Boston, I know you guys suck and all. But can you not be completely useless, and maybe win the game?

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    By the way, as old friend Pete Abe points out, Wakefield’s performance bonuses kick in with this game. His salary just went up $500,000 for breaking 130 IP.

    Woulda been smarter to release him and just start someone from AAA, no?

    • bonestock94

      I guess it evens out with the awful extensions some of their players sign.

    • Magnus Stultus

      I am pretty sure Wake takes a discount to stay with the Red Sox over the years. Maybe, the Sox felt that they owe him some kind of loyalty towards him?

  • Goosemania

    Dont know if anyone else checked it out but Montero isnt playing tonight in the first playoff game for Scranton… could this be a call up?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      he has a leg infection :(

    • Kit

      No. He has an infection so he’s sitting out.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      Was mentioned in the other thread. Timing is just a coincidence, he’s out of the lineup due to some kind of infection.

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      it’s not a call up, lower leg infection

  • Accent Shallow

    See, that’s the thing about the Orioles — you can’t fall behind early, because their bullpen will lock you down. Wait, what?

    I don’t think I could have taken three games in a row where the Yankees fail to capitalize against those guys.

    • CBean

      I had gotten very attached to us not having a losing streak longer than 3 games this season so I was very nervous about a 4th loss. I love you Nick Swisher!

  • Accent Shallow

    Who’s seeing Best Frenemies Forever solely because of Betty White?

    No? Nobody?

    Not even after “the Twitter”?

  • Goosemania

    Oh ok thanks… guess I got too excited haha

  • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

    Wow, Garza has given up 4 HRs so far.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      107 pitches through 4.1 o_O

      • Kit

        Whoa. Not a good start there, Garza’s beard.

    • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

      Which reminds me – I’m pretty sure Liriano’s only given up 4 home runs all year.

      That’s pretty ridiculous.

      • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

        That is plain nuts.

  • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

    How do we analyze the Rays rotation? Obviously, Price is a sure thing, but Shields has been wildly inconsistent all year, Niemann has been awful of late, and nights like tonight remind us of Garza’s combustibility.

    Compared to the Yankees who only have C.C. as a sure thing right now, I’ll concede the Rays at least have two sure things, in all likelihood, with Price and Garza. If nothing else, Garza has shown that he can dominate playoff games (see: 2008 ALCS). However, if Pettitte comes back and pitches well, I’d say the Yankees have their two reliables as well. Minnesota really only has two sure things with Liriano and (gulp) Pavano, and I don’t really know what is a definite sure thing for Texas right now. Obviously, a healthy Cliff Lee is, but his back is a bit of an issue right now, Wilson’s got innings problems, Lewis has struggled recently, and Hunter has been terrible.

    Honestly, Chicago might have the most “well-rounded” team in the league, but they’re on the outside looking in, and since Minnesota doesn’t lose games anymore, it’ll be tough for them to get in.

  • Chris

    Betances: 5.1 IP, 2H, 0R, 1BB, 8K

    Total domination, and only his 4th game at AA.

    • Magnus Stultus

      Very nice, maybe the adrenaline has kicked the stuff up another notch in a playoff situation.

  • Little Bill

    Rays falling apart here. We may pick up a game!

    • Erica

      *happy dance*

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      There are still so many innings of Boston bullpen to get through ;______;

      • Kit

        *nods* The lolpen will probably have some say in it.

      • Magnus Stultus

        I take Daniel Bard from their pen though ; He is nasty !

        • Kit

          He is good.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          Yep, he’s awesome.

          And he’s the ONLY awesome one.

  • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

    Rays home games, with Kevin Kennedy and his incessant whining, can be borderline unwatchable if you ever pay attention to the commentary.

    Rays road games, with Brian Anderson, are infinitely better. B.A. and Dewayne Staats work very well off each other.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Raise your hand if you thought Scott Atchison would still be on the Red Sox in August? Wow.

    • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

      I’ll one up you: Raise your hand if you thought Scott Atchison would still be on the Red Sox in September ? Wow.

      I love how everyone sees that guy and immediately sees him as a plumber.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Woops, forgot it was September.

        Plumber is too distinctive for him; I see him as a nameless/faceless dude at some office.

        • Magnus Stultus

          He would make a perfect assassin by that description.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Raise your hand if you thought he’d be their 3rd best reliever.

      • Magnus Stultus

        Coming to theater near you in 2011 , ‘The Atchison Identity’.

        Don’t fuck with The Scott.

  • Kit

    Eww, ESPN announcer. I am not rooting for the Red Sox. I’m rooting for a bench clearing brawl that results in injuries to mostly Tampa.

    /more internal conflict

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Haha, I like it.

    • Magnus Stultus

      I am pretty sure Pedroia operating on one leg can easily take out Longoria. I will be happy with that. Oh, somebody can punch out Joe Maddon as well.

      • Kit

        Pedroia will clothesline someone with his crutches.

        • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

          I imagine Pedroia will try to headbutt someone in the nuts…

          • Kit

            FROM HIS KNEES!

            Yeah, I said it.

            • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

              LOL +1

          • Magnus Stultus

            Why? Cuz he is short? Don’t be hating Elves like that !

            • Kit

              There’s no elf hate here, they make delicious cookies.

            • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

              Dude, I got nothing against the folks at Keebler.

              • Magnus Stultus

                Aight, hear dat ! Just remember , the 2010 Red Sox are always one Pedroia nut clothesline away from contention.
                And also, FIVE ACES ! Don’t be disrespecting son.

                • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

                  LOL, somehow “Pedroia Nut Clothesline” makes me laugh uncontrollably.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        I keep wanting to see Pedroia beating someone up with his crutches. Yes plz.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    About whom was Sutt just talking when saying he had tears in his rotator cuff but was gutting it out and that was a good thing?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      MAHHHHCO Scutaro, I think.

    • Kit

      Scutaro?

  • Kit

    The defense in this game is laughable. I am not complaining.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Longoria caught the Boston herpderp. Sad, really.

      • Kit

        If he can keep them for a while that would be awesome. Thanks, Longo.

    • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0CyOAO8y0 (SAFE)

      You’re supposed to watch the game with this looping in the background, it makes THAT much more fun to watch.

  • http://ballcraft.blogspot.com Zanath

    It literally makes me sick to even want Boston to win a game. But I have to make myself.

    • Kit

      That can easily be solved by rooting for the bench clearing brawl that results in injuries to Tampa. Or waiting for Fenway to explode.

      • http://ballcraft.blogspot.com Zanath

        If only we could be so lucky

  • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

    PATTERSON FAIL.

    That was tremendous!

  • Slappy White

    Boston not playing fundamental baseball…gritty,yes (ofcourse), fundamental no. But in fairness theyve had injuries

  • Chris

    The analysis of that cluster-fuck at third base in the Red Sox-Rays game seems to be missing one key point: Patterson never touched third when he went back.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

    I pumped my fist when I saw the Boston/TB score. I feel so dirty.

    • http://ballcraft.blogspot.com Zanath

      Isn’t it terrible?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      I went “YESSSS!” when Ortiz homered earlier, then took a shower. (not really, but y’all know what I mean)

  • Kevin in Delectable Princeton

    ESPN just showed a graphic of MVP candidates and Cano isn’t on it.

    • Jerome S

      And Mauer is. WTF?!

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        a few weeks ago, I was watching the Texas broadcast of… some game, and they said, “There are three real MVP candidates. Hamilton, Cabrera, Cano, and Mauer.”

        #checkyourmathguys

        • Kit

          lol…Oh, Texas.

        • ShuutoHeat (Passion>all)

          “There Are Three Kinds of People – Those Who Can Count and Those Who Can’t”

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      heh, who’d they have? Do I even want to know?

      • Kevin in Delectable Princeton

        It was Cabrera, Hamilton, and Mauer (he is having a good season, but not nearly as good as Cano). At least on their Cy Young graphic they had CC…

      • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

        Hamilton, Hamilton, Nelson Cruz

  • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

    I love the sequence I saw in the Rockies game.

    1 on, none out, and CarGo steps up. He walks on 4 pitches, and it looked to me like Arroyo was pitching around him. Why you would pitch around Carlos when the on-deck guy is Tulo is beyond me.

    Sure enough, Tulo hits a three run shot after that.

    Well played, Troy.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Tulo <3

  • pat

    Damn, Tony Franklin is channeling his inner Joe Girardi tonight.

  • China Joe

    Scranton loses to Columbus via the walkoff home run. It should only count as half a win, beating the Jesus-less Scranton Yankees.

    • Mark

      Before the walk off guy tried to sac bunt 4 times, couldn’t get it down, then hit the walk off.

      In the words of Sterling, that’s baseball.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Trenton won, 2-0, beating Drabek which the Trenton beatwriter told me was IMPOSSIBLE! IMPOSSIBLE! (I feel bad poking fun because he’s an incredibly nice guy, but he was so doom-and-gloomy in his preview of the series). Pettitte FTW tomorrow. \o/

      • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

        Betances with the 8Ks. Woop woop

      • Scooter

        This Betances guy isn’t such a bad pitcher!

  • Pasqua

    Dave Winfield was on Kay’s radio show this afternoon and they were talking about “The Showalter Effect” re: the O’s. Winfield actually said, when asked, that managers are responsible for 5% of a team’s wins over the course of a season.

    Such a comment only adds to the notion that MLB analyst = saying whatever shit comes to your head at any given second.

    • Kit

      With the way people describe Buck it makes it seem like he’s kidnapped all of the Orioles players’ pets and is holding them hostage, giving them visitation rights when they win.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        whyyyy am I laughing so hard.

        • Kit

          When they mentioned that a player had said that the team was scared of Buck, I had an image of Pie holding a fluffy white dog in his arms being all “It’s okay, Fluffy, daddy’s got you. You’re safe now. You’re safe.”

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            LOL.

            I get that Orioles fans are excited their team finally looks like they’re playing up to their potential since Buck came around. But uh, it takes the players being in deathly fear of their manager to do that?

      • Magnus Stultus

        Buck reminds of a stern father figure. He is also kind of creepy.

        • Magnus Stultus

          reminds ‘me’ of

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      But he’s an ex-player! And a Hall of Famer at that! He must be right.

      • Pat D

        At least he’s not arrogant about it like Joe Morgan is.

    • Poopy Pants

      Michael Showalter?

    • Pat D

      I challenge you on this.

      • Pasqua

        I have no idea what you mean, but I accept your challenge! Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?

        • Pat D

          I challenge you on questioning Dave Winfield!

    • ZZ

      What would you personally put the % at?

      • Pat D

        I don’t think it’s a flat percent necessarily. Though maybe it is. 5% would be only between 3-5 wins for every team. I think that really sounds about right. Because this would mean that managers have very little factor on the outcome of the game.

        I think Davey Johnson once said that managers don’t win games, but that they can lose games. I agree with that.

      • Pasqua

        My point being: It’s a completely subjective and unprovable concept to begin with so why would someone even think they can put a percentage on it? Gutteral reaction is confused for “analysis” in sports (and politics) and this, to me, is just another example of someone who is presumed to be knowledgable because he “played the game.”

        Here’s another: In the MLB Network commercial that is designed to highlight and celebrate the “insights” of their analysts, they actually show a clip of Billy Ripken saying, “It’s not where you start, it’s where you finish.” What the fuck is that?!

        • ZZ

          Oh. I did not realize you were trying to make a larger point. I thought you were just challenging the percentage Winfield presented so I was curious as to what you thought it was.

        • Pat D

          I agree with this point, particularly when referring to both sports and politics. It’s better to just speak from the heart or gut and sound decisive than to allow for the possibility that you’re wrong or that you have the right to change your opinion. That’s when you get called a “flip-flopper.”

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    If the Yankees had this kind of game, there would be all kinds of articles about how the team’s starting rotation and bullpen is in deep shit. But no, it’s Tampa Bay.

    • Kit

      If Boston has FIVE ACES, does that mean that Tampa has TEN ACES?

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        No one has more ACES than Boston.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    The Rays are looking like dog doo tonight.

    • larryf

      Pawtucket sticking it to the Rays. Hah-they were no match for Jesus and Scranton.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    You know what the worst part of the Red Sox winning is, though? Yeah it helps the Yankees if they beat Tampa, especially tonight, but if they win, everyone will pronounce them “not dead yet” and it will just give Mitch Williams another chance to say something dumb.

    • Kit

      Mitch Williams needs chances? I thought he just spewed crap left and right on a daily basis.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      I knoooow. :/

  • PaulF

    What is the magic number right now? Shouldn’t it be 14 with the White Sox loss?

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      won’t it stay the same if Boston wins?

      • PaulF

        Boston has the same number of losses as Chicago and Boston’s division elimination # per mlb.com is 14

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Easy man, give me some time to find a decent picture.

      • PaulF

        Sorry, just wanted to make sure.

      • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

        It’s my money and I NEED IT NOW

    • forensic

      Since Boston and Chicago are tied now, Boston’s win will put them 1/2 game up and leave the magic number at 15. I didn’t realize they were still tied now either at first.

      • forensic

        Well, according to the other replies, I’m still wrong. My bad…

  • Magnus Stultus

    A simply beautiful piece of music. An Adagio in D minor, I wish they could have played this in memory GMS.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

    • Poopy Pants
      • Magnus Stultus

        a beautiful weaving piece of music (art) , but somehow I think it is slightly too sad for GMS’s bombastic life.

        • Poopy Pants

          Haha. Probably.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    I’m stealing this from someone on Twitter but why is Joe Maddon managing this game like it’s Game 7 of the World Series and he has a one-run lead?

    • larryf

      expanded rosters allow micromanaging to become ultra-micromanaging…

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Not Tank The Frank: you around? If so, what elementary/middle schools did you go to? Your comment in re: the Minaus River (yes, people, laugh about its spelling) makes me think we could be “neighbors.”

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      Matt, you’re cool, but Connecticut and it’s no alcohol after 9 law, is not cool.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Not to mention its NO ALCOHOL ON SUNDAYS EVER law. Luckily, I live right next to the NY line.

        • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

          ugh yeah how unfortunate that was. Going to college in CT was fun though, despite their efforts to curb asshattery

  • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

    Why is A-rod always on the outside of the celebration at homeplate after a walkoff?

    • Kit

      He usually grabs the helmet, no?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Because he’s awkward. Did anyone else see that he had a popped collar in the postgame interviews today? It is now in my personal canon that A-Rod always has a popped collar and everyone on the team makes fun of him for it.

      • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

        At least he only had 1 popped collar and not 2 or more.

    • forensic

      He likes to grab the helmet, but my personal feeling is that it’s his way of not getting jumped on and somewhat protecting the hip.

      Which, by the way, all the jumping on Swisher couldn’t have helped the obviously still bad knee.

      • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

        Well at least Swisher didn’t pull a kendry morales

  • Kit

    I like Bobby Cox, but I feel like the Phillies are going to torment the shit out of the Braves.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      The Phillies announcers yesterday were going frigging bananas when they won (and the Braves lost, putting them in first in the division for the first time in a while). Wow. It’s not 2007 any more, guys. Act like you’ve been there before.

      And I say this as someone with a sort of soft spot for the Phillies (…yeah.).

      • Kit

        I dislike the Phillies, but only because one of my Biochemistry professors was a Phillies fan and during the WS last year, he gave the Yankee fans so much crap over Game 1. He also said that Jorge Posada is a douche and even my Angels fan lab partner was all “You need to stop tripping balls. Jorge is the man.” (I gained some respect for an Angels fan that day…and then promptly lost it the next).

      • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

        Eff the Phillies, eff Philadelphia. The only times in recent memory I can EVER remember supporting a Philly team was in the NHL postseason last year when the Bruins were on the verge of a 3-0 collapse (I have far more distaste for the Flyers than the B’s, but Boston getting the other end of a 3-0 choke needed to happen) and Week 17 in 2008 when the Eagles and Cowboys played for the right to go to the playoffs.

        The only team I don’t strongly dislike are the 76ers. And that’s ’cause they suck, and I don’t have any fan affiliation to an NBA team.

        • Magnus Stultus

          For the last four years (sans 2008) , I have watched Yankees playoff games in AC. I am surrounded by Phillies douchebags.
          They are ,mostly, not knowledgeable and rude. Although, most of them lost side bets to me on the WS last year, for that I am grateful.

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            Phillies fans are mostly awful (though I have a pretty dear friend who’s a Philly fan), but I have nothing against the team. I like them. :/

            • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

              Well. Not really Jimmy Rollins.

              • Pat D

                Come live in a primarily Philadelphia fans area.

                You’ll hate them.

            • Magnus Stultus

              I am always surprised by how many Phillies fans are in south Jersey (logically make sense I suppose). I can’t get Yankees game in the Casino hotel rooms. As a result, I am force to hang out with Phillies peeps there. It’s fucking annoying to hear some their comments. I guess it’s a perspective from a different fan, but most of them are just rude.

  • Kit

    The Rays are effin’ ridiculous. I want to punch you all in the face now.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Heh, using Bard in an 11-5 game. #lolpen

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      Must win for the Sox. and this time it REALLLY is a must win. Every game for the Sox here on out should be declared must wins. I don’t know why they are still trying. But hey stick it to Raysbeisbol

  • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

    Tulo with another home run.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Fun fact, I’ve been to one game at Fenway in my life. It was this one.
    http://www.baseball-reference......6190.shtml

    Also why is this guy creepily going “that’s nice. That’s nice.” in response to some Boston hitter.

    • Kit

      How was that not your favorite game ever?

  • Kit

    How about we not talk about the Yankees and you STFU, ESPN dude.

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    If there’s anyone with rotation problems in the AL East, it’s Joe Girardi’s club.

    -ESPN

    Clearly.

    • Kit

      Seriously. They’re pissing me off with their BS.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    I just put on ESPN and heard about how the Yankees have omgsomanyissuez

    … but then did they just say Boston is basically out of it? Whoah. WHOAHHHHHH.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      And then refuted it because they have such a strong rotation. FIVE ACES!

      • Pat D

        This is getting a little old.

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          The five aces thing? Sure.

          • Pat D

            Yea, the jokes about it. Makes it sound like Boston is still relevant this year.

            • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

              The joke may be old, but the fact that ESPN is STILL talking about it is amazing. Like, yeah, the injuries are the cause of the poor Red Sox season. Not Beckett. Not Lackey. Not Dice-K. Those guys are all fine. It’s the injuries. THE INJURIES!

              • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                Exactly. They had a totally crappy April, when everyone was healthy (I think Dice-K was on the DL but… it’s Dice-K). Their pitching was friggin’ abysmal back then. If they had gotten off to a better start, well, not to be too obvious here, but they would have less room to make up now.

                I’m not downplaying the injuries here, they were certainly important in basically kiboshing their playoff hopes, but that putrid start really didn’t help.

        • Kit

          It’s even older when you hear it from people who are “professionals” in terms of baseball analysis say it every chance they get.

          • Pat D

            What people are still saying this at this point this year?

            • Kit

              They just said it like literally 2 minutes ago. Bexy is my witness.

              • Kit

                On ESPN (Forgot to add that).

              • Pat D

                Once again, makes me glad I’m at work and can’t hear these things.

    • Pat D

      Yea, there was a great video with Kruk and Valentine the other day where Kruk was like “I don’t know how they’re winning” when all he cited was CC being the only good starter, Jeter’s struggles and Granderson not being as good as he could have been.

      Which only overlooked Cano’s MVP season, Teix being fine since June, Swisher and Gardner being pretty valuable, Thames’ recent hot hitting, the bullpen being pretty darn good for some time and the success of the rotation earlier in the year. And some other things I’m forgetting. Kruk is such an idiot, but, of course, we know that.

      • Kit

        Any sign of weakness means doom for the Yankees, apparently.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        They’ve all been reading NYYFans, apparently.

  • Pat D

    Wait, did the magic number realy go down to 14? I thought Boston passed Chicago in the standings again with Boston’s pending win and Chicago’s loss?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      They’re tied in the loss column now. Boston is technically ahead of them by percentage points, but the loss column is what matters. The magic number went down when the ChiSox lost tonight and evened up with Boston.

      • Pat D

        I see. Thanks!

  • MattG

    I am just back from Mercer County Riverfront Stadium, and I can say I was blown away by Betances (and Drabek was no slouch, either). Outstanding life on the fastball, and a very deceptive change. With my eye, I only noticed his arm speed differ on one change.

    The curve seemed okay. He really did it with the fastball and change tonight.

    His defense seemed hell bent on giving up runs–3 errors in his 5.1 innings (that’s probably why he couldn’t go longer), but with people on base he became untouchable.

    I also got to see Venditte. It was a very funny pitching change. First, all the infielders were gathered on the back of the mound while Venditte was taking his warm-up tosses, which was weird. He threw 4 right-handed, over the top, then he walked towards the back of the mound, fidgeting with the glove, his back to our section. He took the rubber left-handed, and my section let out an “Ooooo.” Then he threw, with a sweeping sidearm delivery, and the section said “Aaaahhh!” Most exciting warm-up tosses ever!

  • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

    Is the lead papelbon proof?

    • Kit

      11-5 seems Papelbon proof. But you never know.

      • Kit

        Did not notice it’s the 9th and Okajima is pitching (2 outs already), so Papelbon probably won’t be seen.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Wow, did ESPN just acknowledge a flaw of Boston?!

    OH MY GOD THEY JUST DID THE FIVE ACES THING I’M NOT EVEN KIDDING

    • Kit

      They talk about pitching ERA and then they’re like BUT THEY HAVE ACES. ALL ACES.

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      No they didn’t, did they? Unbelievable.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        They honestly did. They said “Their pitching has been a disappointment, they’re ninth in (baseball? the league?) in team ERA. But they have a rotation of aces.”

        I just… I know it’s getting old. But they literally said that. o_O

        • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

          Outrageous. They have 1 ace and a smattering of 3s and 4s and like a 7 in Wakefield

          • Jerome S

            They have an ace?

            • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

              Lester is pretty freaking awesome. I hate it when he gets downplayed for Beckett.

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          I want to be surprised they said it but… I’m not.

  • Kit

    Haha…there goes the ACES talk again.

  • Scooter

    Great shot of Sweet Lou from that fight in 1976 – I found an earlier shot, but yours is better:
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NRsS.....lafisk.jpg

    • MattG

      Why is it I thought Piniella’s number was 11? Is this definitely Piniella?

      Damn no-name jerseys…

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        It’s Piniella, he wore 14 as both a coach and manager. I used him only because I couldn’t find a decent shot of Luis Sojo.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    No Betemit picture? I object!

    • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

      Betemit did get us Swisher, so actually Wilson Betemit would have made sense only because of what happened today

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Hehe, very true.

  • bonestock94

    How can a reasonable person justify anyone other than Lester being an Ace? Even if Bucholz’s BABIP was reasonable I don’t think he could be called an Ace, since he strikes out less than average. Not to mention it would be a bit premature.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Pretty shiny ERA. But I agree.

      • bonestock94

        I guess I need to think less sabermetric to get into these guys’ heads. Even then..2 aces, fine, not five c’mon.

    • MattG

      But Beckett won game 6 7 years ago, Lackey won game 7 8 years ago, and Dice-K has the gyroball!

      Plus, I think they all drink wine from Schilling’s sock before each start. If that doesn’t make them aces, what will?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      They keep looking at the names of the pitchers and not their actual, you know, performances. Beckett and Lackey are big names but they’ve been mostly awful this year.

  • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

    Nights like tonight are why I’m glad I watched the Rays game on their network. No ESPN, no Kevin Kennedy. Excellent.

    For those dumb enough to watch tonight’s LA/San Diego game, please report any idiotic Yankee comments the crew somehow finagles into this game. I’ll want to hear those.

  • Jerome S

    Remember in the Dark Knight when they talked about there being a hero that the people needed, and the hero that they one that they deserved?

    When it became apparent sometime in 2003 or 2005 that A-Rod truly was one of the all-time greats, he was the hero that we needed. We needed a baseball player that could perform without PED’s. We needed an anti-Bonds, an Anti-Sosa, a reincarnation of Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron or anybody to distract us from the cancer in the sport.

    Was he arrogant? Yes. Was he awkward in front of the press? Yes. Some people may have hated him, but no matter what, statistically, he was the best. And Alex knew it. He had known it since the early 90’s. All through high school, the scouts saw him and saw something special. In the minors, a developing A-Rod was seen by many as the next Ken Griffey. After 1996, he was a legend, and was just months removed from being able to legally drink.
    So there he was. A-Rod the legend. The hero that we needed. The savior of baseball.

    But then there was the hero that we deserved. Alex Rodriguez on steroids, Alex Rodriguez the lie. As fans of a juiced up game where men with no necks swing bats the size of their index fingers, a moribund game at the time, and more importantly, as fans willing to accept such lies, we got who we deserved. Alex was a product of an ugly system that we created, not the other way around.

    Manny being Manny, they say. Others ask, why is Alex Rodriguez standing on the outside of a walk-off celebration? Why is it that Roger Clemens is such an asshole? Well, look at what we demand of them. When we’re behind in a game, we want Alex to hit a homer right now. Clemens was hardly allowed a single bad outing per year from the press. Some blamed the Dodgers struggles, incorrectly, on Manny Ramirez.

    The athlete-fan relationship is a two-way relationship. They respond in ways that we fail to comprehend. But these supermen of the game are humans.

    Alex Rodriguez was the hero we deserved. Only we, as a society, and not the MLB Players association or the Commissioner can do what is right to get the hero that we need.

    • Magnus Stultus

      I DEMAND ALEX TO HIT A SINGLE TOMORROW!

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      Unfortunately this kind of narrative is far too common these days. It seems to be the mentality of every casual baseball fan. And hey, who can argue against it?

      To me though, A-rod isn’t as bad as people make him out to be. He’s hated by a lot of people, and he’s brought a lot of it on himself. But I always liked him because I feel like he’s a good guy at heart. How many superstars of his status would have moved from shortstop to third to accommodate a guy like Jeter, without saying a word?

      In the end, fans just want to be a part of something special. It’s why we don’t care about how much the Yankees spend, or who they bring in. We just want to win, to feel the elation when after watching 170+ games we finally reach the top. We got to the ballpark with the idea in the back of our heads that maybe something special will happen today.

      Steroids will always cloud the game. But I think a lot of fans just don’t care about them anymore.

    • MattG

      I think your premise is false. I don’t think there was much wrong with heroes like Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Joe DiMaggio and Jackie Robinson, to name a few. Want more recent, steroid era guys? Ken Griffey and Greg Maddux stand at the top, but guys like Craig Biggio and Tony Gwynn have claims to hero status as well.

      People demand of their heroes, and those heroes, being human, can fail. The questions are were they worthy of the praise, and are they still heroic in failure? Many undeniably are. Clemens and Rodriguez will need to be debated.

      • Jerome S

        Well,

        I see your point.

        BUT what I failed to fully state was that my premise relates solely to the players that used PEDs, because they felt inadequate to begin with. My apologies.

      • Pat D

        Joe DiMaggio wasn’t really a saint. I’d say Lou Gehrig deserves to be mentioned in that group rather than DiMaggio.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Joe Torre rockin’ the glasses tonight. He kind of looks like a cuddly grandpa (who would tell mean stories about you to the other people at the old folks’ home.).

    • Jerome S

      “The nurse who gives me my pills is called a fraud by the rest of the staff.”

    • Magnus Stultus

      The Dodgers simply refuse to score ! Bex, I need you work some magic here. Padres needs to lose tonight !

      • Jerome S

        … Rocktober!! I’m in.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        Only if it benefits Rocktober!!!!

        • Magnus Stultus

          FINE, Rocktober ! I just want to see an epic fail by the Pads. :)

  • Magnus Stultus

    Can anyone offer up an opinion of Rene Rivera as a player? My real question is whether or not he can be a better player than Moeller or Cervelli.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    ESPN: David Eckstein rulz, Matt Kemp droolz.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      Well duh. Those small gutty white guys just know how to win. He may have a .659 OPS, but dammit, EACH POINT IS GRITTY!

      • Magnus Stultus

        Napolean was pretty gritty.

        • Magnus Stultus

          Also, he won quite a bit.

    • Jerome S

      Joe Mauer: MVP

      Felix Hernandez: Not even remotely worthy of a Cy Young.

      The list is INFINITE.

  • Rockdog

    Don’t know if folks saw the article on mlb.com on Brackman, but it did have one interesting point. Brackman goes out of his way to praise Romine. Was good to see. Just loving the system, especially the catching depth. Will be interesting to see what Cashman does with it — i.e., who do you trade and when. Here’s the link to the article:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=nyy

  • http://riveraveblues bob

    9and 0 road trip coming up

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      Aren’t you the same guy who said that maybe the Yankees need an 0-8 trip?

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        I hope they get swept. Fuckin’ optimists!

        /RIP Jersey Johnny’d

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    Angry birds: greatest iPhones/Android app ever? I think so.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      It’s a blast. I just beat the entire game, all the different chapters and what not, maybe three weeks ago. Now I’m trying to get three stars on all the different levels, which is basically impossible.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    this Padres/Giants series is gonna rule

    … or probably be all boring blowouts. One or the other.

    • Magnus Stultus

      I think the Pads definitely has the Jints’ number this year.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    One thing about ESPN and the Yankees: they will always say nice – heck, downright worshipful – things about Mariano. And Jeter.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      Trying to find fault with the greatest closer to walk the Earth or a great offensive shortstop who’s been the face of the team who’s won 5 championships…. that would pretty much eliminate any doubt that they straight up hate the Yankees.

  • yankees1717

    i wish they would just call up montero for the one game when they face lee just to see that battle. i bet jesus would take out his wrath on lee and just hit a moonshot off him.

    • Magnus Stultus

      I said it earlier in the game thread. Frankly, I am little concern about Cliff Lee’s back. I am hoping the Yankees will do their due diligence when he becomes a free agent.

      • yankees1717

        oh, i’m sure they will. and i am of the opinion that the yankees don’t really need lee. of course i’d love to have him, but they could put together a real solid rotation with CC/AJ/Phil/Andy/

        • yankees1717

          and someone like kuroda or lilly, or a low risk high reward guy like webb

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            I would not want to depend on Webb for a rotation spot next year. IMO, that’d be like depending on CMW for a spot in 2010. Plus, Webb’s supposedly looking for a lot of money.

            • Magnus Stultus

              I do like Kuroda. I think he is durable and his stuff will translate in the AL EAST. Of course, I want Lee. But couple caution signs went up with his back problem.

              • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                I like Kuroda too, but he’s not young. A one-year deal wouldn’t be the worst thing though. I want Lee badly, but as others have said, some caution signs went off with his back issues. I trust the Yankees’ll be smart with his physical and what have you.

            • yankees1717

              true, i agree with you especially on the $$$ part, but if he’s willing to come on an incentive-laden deal, i wouldn’t be against going for him as a fifth starter, with joba and nova as backup plans.

              • ZZ

                The major problem is that AJ is pitching like a 5th starter this season, so that is far too much risk at the back end of the rotation.

  • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

    In talking about who might be next year’s Padres, came this expert analysis:

    “I think it might be the Orioles. Buck has them playing well. The only problem is they’d have to beat the Yankees and Red Sox. (pause) And the Rays. (longer pause) and don’t forget the Blue Jays!”

    To sum it up, to contend in 2011 the Orioles will have to beat every team in their division. Stellar!

    • Magnus Stultus

      I think the Mets has a better chance of becoming next year’s Padres than the Os. I mean it.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        I know people have been saying this for at least a couple of years but the Orioles really do have a lot of talent. If they ever put it all together, they’d be scary. Thing is, so much of that very hyped young talent really underachieves. If it’s just one player, you can probably blame the player. If it’s everyone, it’s gotta be something in the organization.

        Though things have been turning around with Buck Showalter a bit, Guthrie and Matusz have gotten quite good, Wieters has gotten a lot better, etc. But who knows if correlation = causation there.

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          I think Wieters in general hasn’t been what they’ve expected. Maybe expectations were too lofty, but I think Baltimore would have liked to see more offense from him by now. The kid certainly has a lot of talent, it’ll be interesting to see if they realize it.

          They have a lot of lineup questions too. Markakis and Roberts aren’t getting any younger.

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            I generally agree with what you’re saying but Markakis is only 26. That’d be like saying Cano isn’t getting any younger.

            Wieters is probably going to be cursed by his own hype for his entire career, though he also just flat-out has not been that good.

            • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

              Well yeah, my point was that unless you believe the Os are suddenly going to be ready to contend in the next few years, by the time they’re ready to start moving up, their main offensive core would have wasted their peak years.

              • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                Ahhh – gotcha.

        • Pat D

          In order for the Orioles to really rise, one of the top 3 teams would need to suffer a pretty bad fall.

          I could see cases being made for that to happen to each of the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Indians/Angels is in the effin’ 15th inning

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      You mean Matsui hasn’t hit a home run in a clutch situation yet? NOT POSSIBLE

  • Magnus Stultus

    I just looked up Godzilla’s number. He has a 794 OPS and 266 average. Those numbers prolly would have been better in YS. He is having a decent year in my opinion.

    • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

      How do you know that? Anaheim isn’t exactly a terrible place to hit.

      Also remember how he killed lefties last year? Against lefties this year he’s only hitting .218/.258/.427. Almost a 300 point drop in OPS from last year. His bat just isn’t as good as it was.

      • Magnus Stultus

        Relax Ross, I don’t know that , hence the word ‘prolly’. Personally, I think his pull power was taylor made for YS.
        He was also my favorite player on the Yankees. Sure, he is number is down against lefties. He is having a DECENT year.

        • http://twitter.com/cephster Ross in Jersey

          I’m just saying, I’ve heard that argument a lot but I’m not sure if it carries any weight. Right field in Anaheim isn’t bad, and Matsui usually doesn’t hit cheapies.

          Decent year? Sure. Worth paying him what he would have wanted? Nah.

          • Magnus Stultus

            I think he would have hit a few more hrs here in the stadium.
            Not a great example, but when the Angels were last here. He hit couple shots in right field porch that could only have gone out of YS and nowhere else.

            AS far as free agent goes, that’s water under the bridge.

            Matsui was a gentleman. He was cool under pressure, I like his style. Sometimes , that kinda stuff goes beyond stats for me in evaluating a player.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      He hasn’t been horrible but I don’t really miss him. Also, he hit significantly better on the road last year, believe it or not.

      • Magnus Stultus

        I do miss Godz. He was a classy guy and a clutch hitter for the Yankees.

  • Brian Cashman is Watching

    Everyone check out the Colbert Report on replay. Yogi Berra makes a guest appearance. It’s short, but nice.

  • Carlosologist

    Something that pisses me off: When the Yankees are referred to as the other team in New York.

    • Pat D

      Who the hell does that?

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    “BEAT L.A.” is an awful, awful chant.

    • Magnus Stultus

      No dumber than ‘Yankee sucks’ which is just off base factually.
      If they yell ‘Money Monger’ I would have laughed.

  • bonestock94

    I think Daniel Hudson is gonna kick ass in the NL West. Still a dumb trade by the ChiSox btw.

    • Magnus Stultus

      I think the original intent was to flip Jackson for Dunn, so I heard. In any case, Jackson has pitched well for the Chisox. He pitched pretty well for the Tigers LY. Chicago can afford his salary. I think it’s an okay deal.

    • Carlosologist

      I don’t think so. I think that the White Sox pitching coach must have done something with Jackson, because he’s been a stud since he got to Chicago. (2.05 ERA, 44 IP, 51/9 K:BB, 1.091 WHIP)