Sep
09

Rivera’s walk-off blast gives Trenton 2-0 series lead

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Here’s Keith Law’s write-up about his scouting trip to see last night’s Double-A Trenton game (sub. req’d). “(Dellin Betances) is just 22, has good arm strength and has a workhorse, top-of-the-rotation body,” said KLaw, “but the poor command and secondary stuff put him far from any kind of high-end starter ceiling.” He also mentioned that Austin Romine looks straight up tired, and that Pat Venditte is basically throwing junk from the left side. Nothing new there.

Also, J.B. Cox was suspended following last night’s tantrum, and I suspect he’ll soon be released. Insubordination is bad enough, but there’s no need for the organization to tolerate that from a non-prospect. Especially when it’s not his first incident of the season.

Triple-A Scranton (5-4 win over Columbus in 10 innings) the best-of-five series is now tied at one … they beat up on an old friend in this one before blowing the lead late … The Ghost of Kei Igawa gets the ball in Game Three tomorrow
Reid Gorecki, CF: 0 for 3, 1 R, 2 BB, 3 SB
Kevin Russo, 2B: 1 for 5, 1 R, 1 RBI, 1 SB, 1 CS – singled in the go-ahead run after Gorecki got himself into scoring position with a steal
Juan Miranda, 1B & Brandon Laird, 3B: both 0 for 4 – Miranda walked and struck out
Jorge Vazquez:  0 for 5, 5 K – aside from the game tying homer in the ninth inning yesterday, he’s 0-for-8 with seven punchouts in the series … he’s got to do better than that with Jesus Montero out
Chad Huffman, RF: 2 for 5, 1 R, 1 HR, 2 RBI, 2 K
Eric Bruntlett, SS: 1 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI – check out the no-hit middle infielder getting in on the action
Justin Christian, LF: 3 for 4, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI – he’s absolutely killing it of late … the hit streak is now up to 21 games
P.J. Pilittere, C: 1 for 3, 1 BB – who needs Montero? … I keed, I keed
David Phelps: 6 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 4 K, 6-7 GB/FB – 63 of 111 pitches were strikes (56.8%) … not his greatest effort, but good enough to win nonetheless
Royce Ring: 0.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 1-0 GB/FB – just two of his six pitches were strikes
Zach Segovia: 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K – ten of his 15 pitches went for strikes
George Kontos: 0.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K – just 12 of his 25 pitches were strikes (48%)
Kevin Whelan: 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 2-0 GB/FB – 17 of 32 pitches were strikes (53.1%) … walked in the tying run in the bottom of the eighth … I’m sure Dave Miley really misses Jon Albaladejo right about now … actually, wait, Miley was ejected in the third inning for arguing a force play at second
John Van Benschoten: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 0 K, 1-1 GB/FB – just 11 of his 23 pitches were strikes (47.8%) … look at how many freaking guys the bullpen walked in this one, awful

Double-A Trenton (1-0 win over New Hampshire in 12 innings, walk-off style) Trenton now leads the best-of-five series 2-0 … the Thunder will send Manny Banuelos to the bump in Game Three tomorrow, hoping for the sweep
Austin Krum, CF & Marcos Vechionacci, 1B: both 0 for 4, 1 BB – Krum struck out four times, Vech thrice
Justin Snyder, 3B: 2 for 5, 1 K
Dan Brewer, RF: 1 for 4, 2 K
Austin Romine, C: 0 for 5, 1 K, 1 E (throwing) – not easy to win when your three-four hitters do this
Rene Rivera, DH: 1 for 5, 1 R, 1 HR, 1 RBI, 2 K – walk-off bomb, his second straight day with a jack
Damon Sublett, LF: 0 for 3, 1 BB, 3 K
Luis Nunez, SS: 2 for 4, 1 E (throwing)
Matt Cusick, 2B: 1 for 3, 1 K
Andy Pettitte: 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 2 WP – 37 of his 51 pitches were strikes (72.5%), and after he exited he went down to the bullpen to get some more work in … can’t say I thought I’d ever see his name in DotF … sounds like he’ll make another rehab start as long as one of the affiliates is still playing five days from now
Adam Warren: 6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 10 K, 4-4 GB/FB – 67 of 97 pitches were strikes (69.1%) … he sat 89-94 and was fastball heavy … I have to say, that’s some mighty fine work
Wilkins Arias: 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, 2-0 GB/FB
Josh Schmidt: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 2-0 GB/FB – told you last night, he’s an every game kind of guy in the postseason

High-A Tampa already swept their best-of-three series against Dunedin. They’ll face the winner of tonight’s much delayed Bradenton-Charlotte game in the Florida State League Championship Series starting tomorrow.

Low-A Charleston, Short Season Staten Island, and the Rookie GCL Yanks are done. None of the three qualified for the postseason.

Categories : Down on the Farm
  • 28 this year

    Another ten K’s from Warren. great to see.

    BTW, who is this Andy Pettite prospect? What does he throw and do you think he will ever be successful in the majors? Call him up.

    • rbizzler

      I heard his out pitch is a knuckler.

  • Andrew Brotherton

    Do you think we could use this Pettite guy as our second lefty for the playoffs? Does he have that kind of stuff. I mean his name is Pettite? like Petite, so I don’t know if he has it in him

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

      #badattitude

      • Josh Z.

        Right meme, wrong player.

    • VO

      You guys hype these prospects too much. Chances are no one that shows up on these DOTF’s will turn into anything. Talking about this Pettitte guy actually coming from AA into a MLB playoff series is ridiculous get your head in the game.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Jesus & Maquinito FTW

    Wait. Warren had 10 Ks again? I’m liking him more and more…

  • PaulF

    Wow, both of the previous commenters spelled Pettitte wrong.

    • PaulF

      and made the same joke

      • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

        I may be wrong, but I think they intentionally spelled his name wrong.

  • Jake H

    I do wonder if Dellin was a little tired since he didn’t pitch most of last year. Since KG at BP had him sitting mid 90′s a few weeks ago.

  • Will (the other one)
    • Will (the other one)

      Oops…sorry for the reply fail. It makes an already bad joke even worse.

  • Cowboy Popup

    Goldstein at BPro said Betances has a plus curveball. Hard to believe he’s striking out all these guys at the High A and AA level and walking very few with lousy command and nothing but a fastball.

    • crawdaddy

      Also, Betances threw more strikes than Drabek and walked one less batter, yet his command was bad. Law’s comments about Betances doesn’t make sense to me.

      • Big Juan

        Looking simply at balls and strikes is not an effective way to assess control. There’s a HUGE difference between being in the strike zone and hitting your spots.

        • Doug

          yup, command and control are completely different things. you can walk nobody and still have poor command.

    • Big Juan

      Actually its not that hard to believe. You can get away with plus stuff and shaky command in the minors. The command is what separates MLB guys.

      • crawdaddy

        So how come Drabek didn’t have shaky command since he threw less strikes?

        • Big Juan

          First of all, I never said Dellin had shaky command. I wasn’t there. Second of all, like I said. There’s a big difference between throwing strikes and having good command. And there is no way for you, or I, to make that distinction from our computers.

          • hello9

            Maybe Drabek was trying to throw balls.

        • Gonzo

          Truth be told, I wouldn’t be surprised if Drabek had the better career barring injury. That’s not hard to believe is it?

          • emac2

            He already has a mighty fine 2 year career at AA.

            • Gonzo

              McAllister breezed through AA with an impressive ERA and WHIP. What does that tell you?

      • Cowboy Popup

        Law’s scouting report is different from others, so that makes me skeptical off the bat. And while Betances has a good fastball, it seems unlikely that he could get these kind of results with it if he can’t even spot it and he doesn’t have a good secondary offering. He doesn’t throw 99, he’s throws 94-95. I think it’s more likely that his curve is actually pretty good, because that’s always been the report on him until Keith Law saw him. I wouldn’t be surprised if his command is shaky.

        • Doug

          yeah, skeptical of the others

    • http://www.nomaas.org K.B.D.

      Law saw him on one night. The Klaw would probably be the first to admit that you can’t know everything about a prospect from scouting him once.

      • crawdaddy

        I’m not so sure Law would admit any such thing.

        • emac2

          Amen

          Coming off TJ surgery also has an effect on command that Law should be expecting and factoring in but bashing NY is ESPN’s marketing plan.

          • Gonzo

            According to the Yanks Dellin did not have TJS.

      • ZZ

        Then what the hell is he doing putting out that “scouting report” after seeing him one time? Half the stuff he said you couldn’t possibly determine from one start. Yet, apparently Law did.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          What about Pilere’s scouting report? He saw Betances one time, and everyone took it as gospel because it said exactly what we wanted to hear.

          • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

            But Frankie was right and Klaw was wrong!!

          • ZZ

            Did I say anything about Piliere? I don’t particularly like Law, but I don’t take what most of these guys say seriously.

            Anyway, to play this game and answer your question, Piliere addressed prior to giving his scouting report that this is what he saw from Betances that night. When making his projection on Betances he used past information, along with what he saw that night. Law on the other hand, used one start to determine he does not have that frontline ceiling.

          • ZZ

            You should go back and carefully read Piliere’s report. He is careful with how he phrases things, because he is speaking regarding that one performance in terms of evaluating his stuff.

          • emac2

            It was backed up by results.

            When the sun comes up you can agree with a news report that it’s day time.

            When a pitcher comes back from TJ surgery and is immediately as good as anyone in the game on a consistant basis it’s impossible to buy he only has one pitch.

            Unless someone is trying to say his fastball is an 80.

            • Gonzo

              Again, according to the Yanks Dellin did not have TJS.

        • rbizzler

          Hmmm, maybe because it is his job and ESPN pays him to write said scouting report.

          And honestly, why is everyone so upset about the KLaw report? You should take his report with a grain of salt just like the glowing reports we’ve seen from Frankie and hope that Betances, etc continues to develop.

          • ZZ

            I have no problem with him writing a report. The problem is how he presented his opinion. When you are making evaluations based on one outing, you have to be sure to caution with that. Instead, Law went in the complete opposite direction and made long term projections on him.

            • Magnus Stultus

              In general, I think people always want to have their opinions to be reaffirmed. That assurance somehow equates certainty and comfort .
              I suspected laws and Frank’s national exposures and their pedigree makes them popular in the eyes of the layman.

              I personally don’t give shit what either of them says. because it has zero or almost no bearing on how each orgs and their rival GMs view each other.

              Finally, I think Klaw is pompous; I dislike him personally.

              • rbizzler

                You know him personally?

                • Magnus Stultus

                  I don’t know him well at all. But my father does.

            • Not Tank the Frank

              I agree with this 100 percent. Making matter-of-fact proclamations that actually run counter to just about every other report given this year and in the past is by watching one outing is not a good practice. It’s not so much what KLaw said…it’s how he said it.

              I’m not so sure why anyone would defend him here.

              But I also agree with rbizzler; take it with a grain of salt. What KLaw or anyone else says while seeing one start has absolutely nothing to do with how a player will progress.

  • HotCarl

    Royce Ring was picked to be the only NYY rep on team USA.

  • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

    Can we all stop ripping on Keith Law? Who are we Cardinals fans? Maybe that’s what he saw in Betances on that one day. Obviously a small sample size. But I’m not going to get up in arms over Keith Law being a little harsh on one prospect.

    • Gonzo

      You are correct. KLaw could be spot on or he could be wrong. To be honest, so many thing can go wrong in his development that it’s hard to believe that he will be an #1 in the bigs.

    • Fred Lemondtero

      In his chat he said he still thinks Casey Kelly > Betances/Brackman/Banuelos

      • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        That’s fine. What Law thinks about Kelly vs. the 3 B’s will have zero effect on any of their careers.

        • Fred Lemondtero

          It’s annoying though. He ended up back tracking on a lot of what he said in the scouting report too.

      • rbizzler

        That is not exactly what he said. He said that Kelly was a better bet to be a successful big leaguer. KLaw has always been very high on Kelly (almost annoyingly so), so it is not surprising that he is sticking by a guy that he has been touting for a while. Especially considering the three guys that someone asked him about all have durability and injury questions.

        Personally, I think that the Killer B’s have just as high upside as uber-prospect Kelly whose fastball seems a little short.

        • Gonzo

          In his defense Kelly was hitting 95 this according to some guns.

          • http://www.teamnerdrage.com dr mrs the yankee

            Ah were those the guns that had Phil Hughes hitting 97-98 as an SP?

            If he’s not consistently hitting that on all guns it’s just fluff. Fastball velocity is one of the most hilariously inaccurately reported things in MiLB and I am pretty sure you know that!

    • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

      Additionally, most of the people criticizing him probably haven’t seen Betances in person themselves, and even if they did, wouldn’t know what they were seeing anyways.

      Keith Law is one opinion. And in the end, his opinion will end up meaning nothing. Only Dellin can determine what he’ll become.

    • http://www.mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Agreed. What Keith Law says or what Frankie Pillere have to say about any prospect doesn’t actually effect said prospect’s development or future. They are using their trained eyes to write what they think, and what they see, on a given night as their jobs.

    • ZZ

      Why can’t we rip on Law? Is he above criticism? He pretends to be a know it all when many of his evaluations are ridiculous.

      Fans take what this guy has to say as gospel when most of the crap he puts out there gets fed to him by organizations who will actually speak to him. Then he goes out and sees these kids play 1 time at most a lot of the time, whether it is the draft or minor leaguers, and people eat that information right out of his hand.

      • rbizzler

        As opposed to you who speaks to no one and has no scouting background and sees no one play?

        • ZZ

          Well that would be an assumption on your part, and you know what happens when we make assumptions, right?

          You can continue to buy into what he has to say, when most of his information is tied to his connections with the Red Sox information if you choose.

          You can even buy into his Betances report when I saw a couple emails backtracking on his comments instead of sticking firm to his beliefs on the kid.

          • ZZ

            Red Sox +front office+

            • rbizzler

              Why do you think that all of his info comes from his ties to the RS? Because he used to live in MA?

              Who is making assumptions now?

              • ZZ

                It is not an assumption.

                The Red Sox share a lot of information and allow their scouts to speak to Law and to a lesser extent Baseball America.

                Many teams do not like sharing information with them. The Yankees for one do not, particularly when it comes to potential draftees.

          • rbizzler

            Please post your credentials then. Right now you sound like you are whining because KLaw didn’t bow down before Betances in his scouting report.

            If you have some inside information, please enlighten us.

            • ZZ

              Whining? lol. Like I said in the last thread, I don’t care what Law thinks. Him evaluating Betances in a glowing light makes no difference to me.

              What annoys me is that fans view Law as some demigod of prospects. So, like anyone else I disagree with, I have no problem criticizing him when he is off base. Fans constantly criticize what the media has to say. I view Law no different than the other ones whose opinions are challenged on this board every single day. Yet, for some reason Law is above that? Ok.

              Personally, I don’t know how anyone takes him seriously after the way he ranked the Red Sox system before the season.

              • Doug

                you know he was a yankee fan growing up, right? and his whole family were yankee fans.

                • ZZ

                  I do. What exactly does that change?

                  • Doug

                    i just get the impression that you think he’s anti-yankee. if i’m wrong, i apologize.

                    • ZZ

                      I don’t think he is consciously anti-Yankee. I do think he is inherently biased towards them though.

                      His job requires him to know tons of information about players in the minor leagues and then even more potential draftees. There are simply too many players for him to keep track of personally. When it comes to the draft in particular, he sees maybe 1% of them in person, and a fraction of that more than once.

                      Therefore, in order to stay relevant in his position he has to mainly rely on information from other sources. Problem is that, many teams do not like sharing this type of information with media outlets.

                      The Yankees in particular are a very close lipped organization. They don’t see any benefit in sharing this type of stuff with the Law’s of the world. How do you think that they were so heavily in on Culver was kept such a secret?

                      Other teams, like the Red Sox see the benefit in sharing this information. Probably because it keeps them relevant in the media and makes the front office look smart in the media which the fans buy in to.

                    • emac2

                      I think the thought here isn’t so much anti Yankee as bad “scout”

                    • Gonzo

                      Let’s be fair. Lars took a serious step back, Kelly was 19 year old who struggled in AA, Westmoreland had a cavernous brain formation, Tazawa had TJS, and did I miss anything else? The Red Sox before all this happened did have reason to be ranked highly. Their system just crapped the bed this year.

                    • ZZ

                      How those players performed this year has nothing to do with how they should be ranked preseason. For that system to be ranked ahead of the Rays is absurd.

                      The talent was not there to be a top system from the beginning. Those players have never been nearly as good as Law proclaims.

                      Now look what happened. Law doesn’t get a pass because players he chose as top prospects didn’t perform this year. If the Red Sox system was as talented as he thought they were and 2nd in all of baseball then this year wouldn’t have gone so poorly.

    • Chris

      Perconally, I only have a problem with “the poor command and secondary stuff put him far from any kind of high-end starter ceiling”. Sure, if he never improves his command or secondary stuff then he’s far from being a high-end starter, but he still has time to show improvement that would make him a high-end starter. I don’t know how likely that improvement is, but considering that he’s missed a lot of time with injuries (including most of 2009) I wouldn’t rule it out.

      Also, how would someone who’s only pitched 3 games above A-ball rate as a top 100 prospect (which KLaw said previously) without high end starter potential?

    • emac2

      No

      If you follow him you would know he is worthy of being ripped most of the time and he has no problem ripping others he disagrees with.

  • dan

    one question about next year’s 2011 draft. Not sure if this guy was drafted ever. But Is max povse from green hope north carolina in 2011 mlb draft. You can look him up on you tube. Looks good in the video pitching. Very tall, like the way he throws it. Just curious if anyone knows.

  • dan

    banuelos could this guy be in triple a next year!

  • BMW

    Was at the Trenton game tonight and New Hampshire got robbed big time. Their third base coach exploded after a blown call in the top of the twelfth got thrown out and didn’t leave the dugout until yelled at by third base umpire.

    • rbizzler

      So, New Hampshire got robbed because their third base coach got ejected?

      • BMW

        No they got robbed because of the blown call. Second and third with two out. Slow roller to second and the runner was safe but called out. Would have been 1-0 at least with runners on first and third.

        • rbizzler

          Can you link to the replay?

          • BMW

            Can’t find any video highlights on Milb.com but Mike Ashmore’s blog talks about a Milb photo which shows the runner was safe

            http://thunderbaseball.wordpre.....2-win-1-0/

            • rbizzler

              That sucks for NH, but can we call it a win for the purists who love the element of human error in the game?

            • Kit

              I’m a “get the call right” advocate, but there’s nothing NH can do at this point. Go Trenton.

            • BMW

              I agree completely there is nothing that can be done but the third base coach will mostly likely be suspended for the next game and several managers and players charged the umpires after the walk-off to confront the umpires. I wonder if there will be future suspensions.

              • http://www.teamnerdrage.com dr mrs the yankee

                The third base coach was actually the New Hampshire manager. I don’t know if all AA teams do this but Tony Franklin also works 3B for the Thunder so it’s at least not an oddity.

                • Rick in Boston

                  It’s the norm for a lot of teams. Many minor league teams only have 3 coaches (manager, pitching, and hitting), so you usually have 3B covered by the manager, 1B by the hitting instructor or a bench player.

  • dan

    betances is he likely to get through triple a injury free.

  • dan

    I think warren will be in rotation next year if he doesn’t get traded!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • whozat

      slow down, man.

      Young pitchers do two things: suck and get hurt. The exceptions are the ones that make it and contribute in the bigs. There are excellent odds that at least one of Brackman, Betances, and Banuelos will suffer from injuries that either sap them of their stuff or make it so they can never develop the consistency you need to be a big league starter.

      As for Warren, he has started 10 games in AA and is 22. He will absolutely not be in the rotation next year, unless something has gone wrong with at least one big league starter and ALL of Betances, Brackman, Nova and Mosely/Gaudin-type arm they have in AAA/the bullpen.

  • Kevin G.

    I was at the Thunder game. Here’s a few notes:

    -Rivera’s home run was an absolute BOMB. It went over the center field wall which is high and is 407 feet away from the plate.

    -Some of the players were behind home plate during the game (Brackman, Banuelos, and I think Segedin). I guess they were scouting the opposition because they all had radar guns and clipboard. Is this normal?

    -I got to get Brackman’s autograph. And when I got home, I told my sister it was Pettitte’s autograph to get her mad that she decided not to go to the game.(I would have gotten Banuelos’ too but I didn’t recognize him. Actually, the only reason I recognized Brackman was because another kid walked up to him to get an autograph. I honestly thought he was a scout. :P)

    -A lot of people left the game after Pettitte came out. It’s their choice but I think it’s stupid to leave after 4 innings.

    • art vandelay

      that’s one BIIIIIIIIIIG scout

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      A lot of people left the game after Pettitte came out. It’s their choice but I think it’s stupid to leave after 4 innings.

      I had to get home on public transportation :( I did feel really awful. If I had driven there myself, I would’ve certainly stayed.

      • BMW

        You missed out on a free Wawa coffee coupon for people who stayed for the extras! All joking aside, if the first nine innings weren’t done in under two and a half hours I would have left too.

    • http://www.teamnerdrage.com dr mrs the yankee

      Brackman has the worst haircut of all time.

      And yeah it’s normal, a pitcher who isn’t going that day gets pitch charting duties. I went to a Trenton/Binghamton game earlier in the year and Jenrry Mejia was charting a few rows up from my seat.

    • ColoYank

      You didn’t recognize the 6-foot-10 guy?

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    I was at the Thunder game for the first five innings. Would’ve stayed longer, but as I said above, I had taken public transportation there and the trains from Trenton to NY take FORFREAKINGEVER. Not much of a scout, but Andy looked good. In more ways than one ;)

    • CBean

      LoHud has this picture of Andy in his little Trenton uniform.

      You’re right, Bexy. He does look good.
      <3

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        there are a bunch of pictures here
        http://thunderbaseball.wordpre.....dquarters/

        I took a million pictures (SHOCKING!!!!!), but I don’t have a super fancy camera so they are terribly blurry.

        Oh and go Trenton. I felt terrible leaving early, glad to hear they won. :)

        • CBean

          This afternoon I told my friend that I wished I was in Trenton. She was all words you never thought you’d say! I’m glad you got to see him at least. (If things stay right, he’ll be in the rotation at the Baltimore game on the 19th which I am going to. I am hoping to see him soon too!)

    • Kevin G.

      I was kinda happy people left early. That way I got to move to behind home plate and meet Brackman. :)

  • ZZ

    Just curious. Why are people so protective of Law when you have no problem ripping basically anyone else in sports media?

    • Doug

      not protective at all. just appreciate his brutal honesty. speaks his mind, doesn’t care about the repercussions.

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

      I’m not being protective of him. I’m just saying I don’t need to see 35+ comments of just bashing him. If you disagree with him, that’s fine, you’re entitled to do so. It’s just one opinion. Plus he usually actually watches the players from a scout perspective rather than just spewing stuff that makes little sense. His word is not gospel, but ease up.

  • BigBlueAL

    I take back what I said in the Open Thread, apparently there are rational Yankee fans who dont hate KLaw because he didnt give Betances such a glowing report.

    If you read his entire chat wrap today he had a few Yankee prospects related questions. He was asked if the Yankee prospects were overhyped or of they were legit prospects and he said “I think there’s some overhyping going on, especially after what I saw from Betances last night, but they are still legit prospects and that’s the most pitching depth there’s been in the Yanks’ system in a very long time. Damon Oppenheimer is getting some interest for GM gigs for good reason.”

    Someone else asked to compare the 3 “B’s” and he said “Betances still has the highest ceiling, but there’s a lot of distance between his present skill set and that ceiling. Banuelos feels like the safest bet right now. I was talking to Mike Ashmore last night (@mashmore98 on Twitter, a must-follow if you’re into Yankees prospects), and he mentioned that Brackman’s velo is at least a full grade below where it was pre-surgery, and given how much time has passed I’m not sure I can tell you confidently that it’s going to come back.”

    Finally someone asked him about Betances’ lack of command issues and if fans should be excited about his stats this season and he said “Just be realistic. He’s had a great year, but good control vs A-ball hitters is not the same as good command against big-league hitters.”

    I understand why people may not like him because of his snarky and smart-ass answers (which is actually why I like reading his chats so much). But again even if he wouldve said he was amazing it doesnt change the fact that his opinion and anyone else’s opinion not named Brian Cashman doesnt matter one bit.

    • BigBlueAL

      Well actually the opinion of opposing GM’s might matter too if Cashman is trying to make a trade with them and those prospects are involved obviously.

    • rbizzler

      I agree with this explanation wholeheartedly. KLaw is not one to hype a player just for page views and flashed some brutal honesty in his analysis. I, for one, have had a few very positive interactions with him and I appreciate his perspective even if he is a tad pessimistic for my liking.

      For example, in his analysis of the Betances start that he saw he said Betances had a good fastball (touching 96 and reaching back for 94-95 when he needed it, while sitting at 91-92) and an already passable ML changeup. That scouting report, to me, sounds pretty solid for a guy with Dellin’s experience, but KLaw proceeded to crap all over his curveball, which sounded like a work in progress. Being a tad bit more optimistic that Keith, I found a lot to like in his report even if it was buried in snark. Then again, I don’t get bombarded with questions from fanboys who want their favorite prospects to be called “The Next (insert HOFer here), so maybe he was tempering enthusiasm or was expecting a bit more out of the big fella.

      Overall, KLaw said that Betances had a good fastball, a good changeup and a curveball that needs some work. That is not exactly as damning a report as people are making it out to be.

      If you want a counterbalance, go read Frankie who tends to be a little too optimistic about Yankee prospects.

  • Shaun

    Who cares what a scout says, the predictions are usually more wrong than right. Scouting in baseball is the biggest crapshoot in all sports. A guy may scout well, get drafted in the first round never get out of the minors, while others who are drafted low and are written off as bench players, utility men or career minor leaguers become great stars.

  • MikeD

    I like Klaw. I would have felt better if he had glowing report, but I’m not going to accept what he wrote as gospel. Heck, as far as I know, Klaw still doesn’t think Gardner should be a starting OFer in the major leagues. It’s not as if anyone has ever said he’s the best scout in the country (he’s not). Yet he knows quite a bit and is usually pretty direct and honest (although I can’t think of too many cases where he’s admitted he’s wrong), so that makes for an interesting read compared to most of the junk on ESPN.

    • BigBlueAL

      I like his evaluations of major league teams and players more because he cites advanced stats as much as anybody along with his scouting view point and knowledge of the player when they were in the minors. To me he is just interesting to read but as with the case with any analyst he can be right and wrong all the same and his word is not 100% the truth obviously.

    • http://www.teamnerdrage.com dr mrs the yankee

      He’s one guy who said a thing, you take that and file it away with everyone else. I like KLaw but besides being direct he seems to like to inciting people so you should keep that in mind when reading his stuff.

  • China Joe

    I’m pretty sure the majority of people expected very little of Betances this year. This year has been the absolute best-case scenario for him. I think everybody should enjoy it and stop worrying where he’s gonna end up on KLaw’s prospects list. If he stays healthy next year everyone will have a pretty good idea of his major league potential.

  • Jeff

    All writers try to be objective, but in the end they cannot be. Piliere is obviously a Yankee fan and tends to be more positive about Yankee prospects. Law until very recently lived in Boston and even if he isn’t a Red Sox fan is influenced by his environment and tends to be more negative about the Yankees and positive about the Red Sox.

    As Law is an excellent sportswriter, he expresses very strong opinions, too strong to be reliable (who wants to read a writer who hedges everything he says?). Although he gave up no runs and only 3 hits, this was a start in which Betances was particularly inconsistent. He is new to this level and coming off of surgery which while not TJ was something like it. It is obvious that you cannot make definitive judgements based upon one start, especially in these circumstances. Scouts will follow a prospect over many starts. But Law is paid to make strong statements.

    It is obvious that Betances is not a finished product and he has made incredible strides this year. If he makes similar progress next year I do not see why he cannot be a front end starter.

  • Jim

    Kevin Goldstein led off his column in yesterday’s Baseball Prospectus with this:

    September 9, 2010
    10
    Dellin Betances, rhp, Yankees (Double-A Trenton): 5.1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 8 K

    I can’t remember a system having so many pitchers taking a big step forward in one season like this year’s Yankees crop, and Betances leads the charge. Finally healthy, the six-foot-eight righty as been nothing short of dominant, touching the mid-90s with his fastball and backing it up with a true plus curveball. If he can stay healthy, his ceiling is up there with nearly any pitching prospect around.

    • Not Tank the Frank

      BUT THE COMMAND!!!

      He’ll never be anywhere close to any kind of high-end starter! Because he didn’t have command that one time. KLaw told me so.

      • rbizzler

        Ha, I understand your point, but was KG at the Thunder game the other night or is he just going off of word-of-mouth reports?

  • YankeesJunkieinMadrid

    It will be interesting to see how these guys develop. Obviously Betances has a good fastball and a great build. It sounds like when he is on his CB is just nasty and a plus plus pitch. However, as it is with most big pitchers how will his mechanics improve as he gets older. Honestly, out of all the AA pitchers Warren seems the most likely to stay in the bigs and then Banuelos. Warren seems to be the most polished of the pitchers with four average to plus pitches and at worst he can be put in the pen. Banuelos will need to show continued increase velocity if he is going to make an impact on the Yankees rotation or at least plus plus command.

  • Brian in NH

    Heard Montero is likely done for the playoffs via lohud. Had a minor surgery to clear up the infection in his ankle. Still doesn’t have a lot of info around like what kind of infection it was. Or why an infection requires surgery (unless its an amputation?)

    • ColoYank

      It was probably a non-invasive procedure to flush a wound that had gone bad. Some infections can be very trreatment-resistant. I just hope it wasn’t staph.

  • Fair Weather Freddy

    Our Triple A and DOuble A rotations shoule be absoultely filthy next year with Warren probably joining Phelps and Noessi at AAA and AA featuring Brackman, Betances, Banuelos and Stoneburner. Keep up the great progress guys!

  • Doug

    If you guys have a problem with KLaw now, just wait until after you read his report on Romine

    • Not Tank the Frank

      Yeah he’s not a big fan of Romine. I’m not either, but I’m going to wait until after next season. I think we’ll find out a lot next season.

      • Doug

        Basically said that while he can thrown, his hands aren’t soft enough to catch. That he struggled with above-average velocity for the second night in a row.

        And before you say, “well it’s only two games” or “he’s tired after a long season catching full-time”, apparently it’s a season-long problem….info he got from a scout who’s seen him several times throughout the year.

        • MikeD

          If that is indeed the case, considering that Montero’s catching skills have always been questioned, and with their other top catching prospects (Sanchez and Murphy) in the low minors and probably a good three years away, they better start looking at Plan B for catching on the MLB level. Posada is still productive with the bat (133 OPS+), but he’s become more and more injury prone and will be and should be catching even less next year (and the year thereafter if he comes back), so I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Yankees move some of their young pitching talent to acquire a catcher this off season.