Sep
26

Yanks lose

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This picture could act as the recap (AP Photo/Bill Kostroun)

The short, short version:

Jon Lester is one of the top five pitchers in the AL, but the Yanks hitters were still underwhelming. Nova predictably got rattled when he put men on base. Chad Gaudin is terrible. Romulo Sanchez has trouble throwing strikes, but when he does guys have a hard time hitting it. A-Rod likes his 30-homer streak.

That’s about it. Last chance to put the magic number at one tomorrow night.

Categories : Game Stories

104 Comments»

  1. Carlosologist says:

    Short, sweet, and to the point. God, I hope the Yanks can blow Matsuzaka out of the water tomorrow. Maybe A-Rod can accomplish his 30 HR streak tomorrow.

  2. The Evil Empire (The original) says:

    # ChokeXOnXFailure September 25th, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    This team is done. I’m sorry to say it, but they’re done.

    Tomorrow with Moseley on the mound isn’t going to be fun. He hasn’t looked particularly great for some time now, and I don’t expect that to just magically change.

    Then we go off to Toronto, where we don’t score, and rarely win.

    Then it’s off to Boston. If Boston hasn’t been eliminated by that last series, which is looking more and more like a long shot, then they’re playing for their season. I don’t think anyone needs to be reminded of what happened the last time it was Boston/Yankees with Boston’s entire season on the line.

    Forget the division. That’s over with. This team is fighting for the wild card at this point.

    My opinion? The way they’ve played for the past month, they are primed for the most epic regular season collapse in the history of sports. They just aren’t very good. If you think otherwise, then you’re being blindly optimistic, and while that’s your right, you should probably look at the way they’ve played in the last month, and realize that losing 7 of the last 8 games isn’t out of the realm of possibility, and is looking more and more likely every day.

    That’s not to take anything away from Lester today. I didn’t watch the game because, frankly, I had better things to do with my evening after I got off work than to watch them s**k. Got in the car, saw the score, heard that they hadn’t gotten a hit in 12 batters, and turned it off. There was only one way this game was going to turn out.

    The problem is, they didn’t win the games they should’ve won. When that happens, it makes losing, even to an ace pitcher like Lester, completely intolerable. The losses still pile up, regardless of who’s on the mound.

    It’s gotten to the point where I don’t even want to watch the games. That’s never happened before. Even if they make the playoffs, I don’t know that I’m interested in wasting my time watching them struggle in Minnesota. Minnesota’s park is huge. The last two games have been home run after home run to score all our runs. That’s not going to happen in Minnesota.

    In the matter of a month, they completely kicked away their entire season. There’s no excuse for it.

    • Dream of Electric Sheep says:

      It looks like this team will crawl toward the finish line… so far away..

      But I will watch them when they are in the playoff. Avoidance of pain is a good strategy.

    • ZZ says:

      This is what I thought after I read your post:

      There are two types of people in this world. Winners and losers.

      You’re a loser.

    • Craig says:

      Would you like to stop spazzing?

    • bexarama says:

      Thanks, Steve Lombardi

    • JGS says:

      Ok, here we go:

      This team is done. I’m sorry to say it, but they’re done.

      Disagree.

      Tomorrow with Moseley on the mound isn’t going to be fun. He hasn’t looked particularly great for some time now, and I don’t expect that to just magically change.

      I don’t have all that much confidence in Moseley either, but Dice-K hasn’t exactly been a worldbeater either. With the good elements of the Yankee bullpen rested, if Moseley can give us 5-6 decent innings, that should be enough.

      Then we go off to Toronto, where we don’t score, and rarely win.

      2-4 isn’t all that good, but there was this game. And look, Moseley pitched that one too. Also, if the Yankees drop 2 of 3 (as they have done the other two times they went to Toronto), even that would put the Sox in a nearly impossible position. Sweeping four games from anyone isn’t easy.

      Then it’s off to Boston. If Boston hasn’t been eliminated by that last series, which is looking more and more like a long shot,

      Including the past two days, Boston is 11-13 over their last 24. What on earth makes you think they can win out?

      then they’re playing for their season. I don’t think anyone needs to be reminded of what happened the last time it was Boston/Yankees with Boston’s entire season on the line.

      Well, if you aren’t counting the series last year where we swept Boston to clinch the division (fair enough, as the Sox did make the playoffs last year regardless), then I guess it would be the Boston Massacre back in 2006. That worked out pretty well, and was in Fenway too.

      Forget the division. That’s over with. This team is fighting for the wild card at this point.

      Given Tampa’s cupcake schedule, this is probably true, though I wouldn’t say they are “fighting” for it. Even so, what’s your point? What is wrong with the WC?

      My opinion? The way they’ve played for the past month, they are primed for the most epic regular season collapse in the history of sports.

      You are of course entitled to your opinion. Pretty sure you are wrong on this one though.

      They just aren’t very good.

      Disagree.

      If you think otherwise, then you’re being blindly optimistic, and while that’s your right, you should probably look at the way they’ve played in the last month, and realize that losing 7 of the last 8 games isn’t out of the realm of possibility, and is looking more and more likely every day.

      I see a team 29 games over .500 that is virtually guaranteed a playoff spot. Even if they did lose 7 of the next 8 (and all the games against Boston), that means Boston still has to split with Chicago. If we win even one game against the Red Sox, then they not only need to win out (again, what makes you think they are capable of that) but they also need us to lose out.

      That’s not to take anything away from Lester today. I didn’t watch the game because, frankly, I had better things to do with my evening after I got off work than to watch them s**k. Got in the car, saw the score, heard that they hadn’t gotten a hit in 12 batters, and turned it off. There was only one way this game was going to turn out.

      Why did you bleep out “suck”? Also, giving up on the game before the 5th inning?

      The problem is, they didn’t win the games they should’ve won.

      Neither have the Red Sox. Heck, Tampa hasn’t exactly pulled away either (though they seem more likely to going forward).

      When that happens, it makes losing, even to an ace pitcher like Lester, completely intolerable. The losses still pile up, regardless of who’s on the mound.

      Losing to Jon Lester is never intolerable. That guy is straight up nasty.

      It’s gotten to the point where I don’t even want to watch the games.

      Then don’t.

      That’s never happened before. Even if they make the playoffs, I don’t know that I’m interested in wasting my time watching them struggle in Minnesota.

      What makes you think they will struggle in Minnesota? In 2000, the Yankees lost 15 of their last 18, and 8 in a row (against the basement-dwelling Devil Rays and Orioles, no less) to close out the season. They went on the win the World Series. That too distant for you? In 2006, the Cardinals lost 9 of their last 12 and saw their division lead dwindle from 7 games on 9/20 to just 0.5 games on 9/28. They finished the season at 83-78…and then won the World Series.

      Minnesota’s park is huge. The last two games have been home run after home run to score all our runs. That’s not going to happen in Minnesota.

      The Yankees are strong enough to turn Target Field into their personal home run derby joint if they have to. Heck, Derek Jeter hit one of there last time they played there. Even if they don’t hit home runs, they can still win.

      In the matter of a month, they completely kicked away their entire season. There’s no excuse for it.

      No they haven’t. And no one is making any excuses. They have played like crap over the past month…and it doesn’t matter. They are still going to the playoffs. They might lose once there, but it won’t be because they had a crappy September.

    • milano22 says:

      evil empire has no clue hes like every other fan out there that waits for a loss or losing streak and throws in the towel. and when the yanks start winning again hes nowhere to be found. the yanks while playing poorly will be just find all that matters now os getting 100 percent healthy for the playoffs.

    • Tom Zig says:

      You all realize that Evil Empire copied a comment from someone else right? And not actually evil empire writing this drivel?

    • Tom Merritt says:

      I agree with you 100%!!!! The only thing I would like to add is that Girardi is a very poor manager. This teams reminds me of the Dallas Cowboys in the respect that they have talent but the coaching is subpar. I don’t think the Yankees have as much talent as the Cowboys.

      All of you that are criticizing The Evil Empire’s post are reaching for straws and rationalizations. It is not that the team is hitting a rough patch. The team has been in a downward spiral since the all star break. I’ve been saying that for the last couple months.

      The only exception I can think of is Granderson. CC has been consistent. Joba, A.J. Gaudin, Berkman, Vazquez, and Kearns need to be off the roster next year for starters. A-Rod is fading. Jeter has already faded. The roster needs a major overhaul and I don’t think the GM, Pee Wee Herman, is capable of doing it.

      Cano, CC, Tex are the new foundation of team. Tex is the most amazing first baseman in the field that I have ever seen.

      Let’s see how the remainder of this season plays out for the Yankees and we will see whose evaluations and reads are accurate.

    • rek4gehrig says:

      You’re being sarcastic, right?

    • BIGRON164 says:

      You hit the nail right on the head…..Unwatchable

  3. Dream of Electric Sheep says:

    To help coping in understanding there are greater woes than seeing your favorite team tanking in this world … I am watching blood diamond for the second time.

    • Poopy Pants says:

      It is sad to see people sooo pissed off about a bunch of underperforming millionaires that, in reality, don’t care about their city.

  4. milano22 says:

    well who ever wrote the original comment there are so many fans like that out there that expect perfection every game with every move with every player. its a long season fellas there one of the best teams in the game despite injuries, inconsistences, and i gotta say ill take the yanks lineup and bullpen over anyone out there and you know cc and pettitte are money.

  5. JM says:

    AL East is over.

    • Carlosologist says:

      No shame in being the WC team.

      • JM says:

        Eh not when you basically give the division away after being the best for so long. It only makes things harder. This team has frustrated me to no end. I think, but I could be wrong, they have a losing or near .500 record from August till now. That is going to kill you i the AL East. THEY WERE UP 2.5 GAMES 4 DAYS AGO!!!

        • Carlosologist says:

          I’m pretty sure that the Rays haven’t been worldburners in the past month either.

          • JM says:

            Which is even more frustrating that they didn’t run away with it.

            • Carlosologist says:

              Well we had the August in which Javy and Burnett completely fell apart, Phil hit some sort of a roadblock, and CC was the only thing holding us together.

          • Mr. Sparkle says:

            No, but if they win the division,, they’ll have done it because they beat teams they SHOULD beat. Something the Yankees failed to do quite a few times in the last couple of months. They’ll also be winning games when the chips are down, while the Yankees have gone 2-4 on this homestand when they had a legitimate shot not only to put some distance between them and the Rays (in the good way, not the way they’ve gone) but also officially clinch a playoff spot.

            The Rays have been almost as bad as the Yankees since the start of August. The difference is they had an easy schedule to fall back on at the end and if they take advantage of it…they deserve the division.

        • All Star Carl says:

          Get to the ALCS. 3 games in the middle.

          World Series. 3 games in the middle!

        • Pasqua says:

          Thing is, if they end up as the WC, that means they WEREN’T the best after all. I’m a diehard fan, but if they can’t hold onto the division it means that somebody else earned it over them. No shame in it, but I think we have to stop acting like the division was somehow unfairly taken from us.

      • theghostofgeorge says:

        no shame? being the defending world champions snd settling for second place. no shame? fielding a $200-million-plus team and settling for second place? no shame? having the best record in baseball and then playing like crap down the stretch after the manager decided to settle for second place? no shame? what’s next? there’s no shame to falling in four to the twins in the first round? we are the YANKEES. second place is unacceptable. When you start thinking like also-rans, you become one.

        • Carlosologist says:

          The best record in baseball is just bragging rights at this point. The NL has home field advantage this season. Even then, all the Yanks have to do is win Game 1 or Game 2 and then return home for THREE STRAIGHT GAMES (two of which are possible clinching dates). Also, since the addition of the Wild Card, the Wild Card team has played in 7 of the last 15 World Series and has won three of them, so the best record doesn’t matter for shit.

          • theghostofgeorge says:

            agreed and something should be done with the playoffs to put wild card teams at a real disadvantage, but that’s for another thread. the point is that, for much of the season, the yanks played very good baseball. in the last month, they have, for various reasons, really sucked to point that they are now painful to watch. all of a sudden, winning the wild card is acceptable. it shouldn’t be for a team with that much talent that showed it can play championship caliber baseball. assuming they struggle to the playoff as a wild card, can they again revert to the form of basebll they played earlier? we’ll see.

  6. Matsuzaka? Tim McCarver kept telling me Clay Buchholz was pitching

  7. Matt DiBari says:

    The Chad Gaudin thing continues to baffle me. Its almost stubborn now. Its like Girardi is saying “you don’t want me to use Gaudin in winnable games? I’ll show you!”

    In other news, It would be so awesome if A-Rod got 30 again

  8. mustang says:

    It’s funny to see the panic in the comments today. Most of the regulars seem to yelling “remain calm all is well”(Hilarious Kevin Bacon scene from the end of ‘National Lampoon’s Animal House) while the bandwagon crowd seems to be running around blaming everyone from the FO to the manager.
    If you looked at some of the game comments you would think the Yankees got KO from the playoffs today very entertaining.

    • bexarama says:

      I don’t think anyone’s saying “all is well” cuz they’re playing like crap right now but the WE’RE DOOOOOOOOOMED-ers are absolutely the worst. Go elsewhere, this shit isn’t needed here. It’s too good a site for that.

      • mustang says:

        Dude, take it light whatever bad way you took my comment it was meant as jest nothing more. Not meant to down grade anyone.
        You don’t have to tell me how good of site this is been here long enough to realize it and I’m not going anywhere.

      • Matt DiBari says:

        There is a middle ground. I don’t think its excessive pessimism to suggest that you don’t want to head into the Fens with this still hanging over our heads. Now, I don’t *think* that will happen, but at the same time, its time for the Yankees to play with just a little bit of urgency. They’ve been (arguably) over rested for the better part of the last two months. Its probably not a bad idea for all the Yankee starters (including Posada)to play every day until they clinch the playoffs, whenever that might be. If that means we clinch the playoffs Monday, hooray. Send the team on a vacation for a week for all I care. But this idea that Posada can’t catch more than two games in a row or that A-Rod can’t play on Sundays while we’re still technically in a pennant race is a little bit ridiculous. Wrap the thing up and then give everyone all the rest they need.

        Along the same lines, stop using the dregs of the bullpen in close games. I have no idea what on earth Chad Gaudin could still be auditioning for at this point, but can’t we save that for meaningless games? Isn’t that a benefit of wrapping it up early as possible? Then you can see what (if anything) Royce Ring and Gaudin and Mitre and Vazquez bring to the table? Does it have to happen while we’re still waiting to see if there even is a table?

        • mustang says:

          Well said I see your point.

        • toad says:

          Of course there’s a middle ground. On the one hand, the gloom-and-doom squad is being silly. Odds are very high (95%?) the team gets the WC, and obviously has the ability to win in the post-season.

          OTOH, just shrugging off the dismal performance is not very realistic. Is the miserable recent record just the way the dice have been falling, or is there more to it than that? I’d guess “more to it” and if so you can’t just keep talking about 2000 and pretend nothing is wrong.

          Just saying “all is well” is not an argument.

  9. Big Stein says:

    nothing is stopping anyone from jumping off a bridge. Just leave your tickets on the dresser.

  10. you know whats funny? I bet if we came out of a coma and looked at the standings in tomorrow paper and saw us up by 5 1/2 with 7 to play, we would have been happier than Joba at a waffle house.
    But watching and analyzing every inning of every game these past four days has sent us into panic mode.

    my prediction?

    yanks go 3-4 the rest of the way.

    do we really thnik they cant win at least two of 7?
    which would make then 2-11 in the last 13 which is 2000 style.

    • Frank says:

      do we really thnik they cant win at least two of 7?
      which would make then 2-11 in the last 13 which is 2000 style.

      The Yanks blew a chance to go to the WS in ’04 with 3 outs to go in game 4 and up 3 games to 0 in the series. That’s about as bad as it gets. So, yes, it is possible they can blow the WC.

  11. larryf says:

    I would like something positive to be taken from these last few weeks of baseball:

    1) Gaudin is gone asap
    2) Kearns is gone asap
    3) Having Montero in our lineup next year is all the additional offense we should need-all other moves should be to improve pitching. I really think Albie and Romulo are preferable to Mitre and Gaudin.
    4) Find a reasonably effective 2nd lefty for the pen

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      I’d prefer to bring Kearns back if possible. He’s a solid defender with an average-type bat. Good fourth outfielder. I expect Kearns to get more money and playing time opportunities with a terrible team, though, so he’ll probably be gone.

      • larryf says:

        Cleveland and Washington reject. I’m done with Kearns and I hope the Yanks are too. very average fielder, swings way too hard and sucks with RISP. Anybody see that solid line drive double off the wall Golson hit off David Price? Oh yeah, Golson sucks too, I know.

        • FIPster Doofus says:

          Kerry Wood’s a Cleveland reject too, and his ERA+ as a Yankee is over a thousand.

          Back to the topic… I think you’re expecting too much from a bench-caliber player. A team could do a lot worse than Austin Kearns as a fourth outfielder.

        • Zack says:

          Who do you want as a bench player then? All bench players are “rejects”

        • Chris says:

          swings way too hard

          Swinging hard generally leads to hits. So I’ll take that over the alternative.

    • Frank says:

      Yet Joba gets a free pass? I don’t trust this guy in a close game at all.

    • Chris says:

      4) Find a reasonably effective 2nd lefty for the pen

      Here’s a shot in the dark for next years second LOOGY: Damaso Marte.

  12. larryf says:

    AJax and Damon with 4 hits each as Tigers got 21 hits (in 13 innings). Be nice to have an explosion like that. Can’t remember the last time we had a guy get 4 hits in a game, let alone 2 guys. I know Jeets had one 6 weeks ago or so…

    Aaron Hill has 25 HR’s and is hitting .208!

    • Zack says:

      They also had 0 xbh. So while the Yankees maybe haven’t had 2 guys with 4 hits, im sure there have been multiple times where they’ve had two players with 2 H and 2 BB or something, which is the same thing.

  13. first time long time says:

    you know yankees, anytime you want to, you know, start winning is fine by me…

  14. pagsrags says:

    Through his moves Girardi has been signaling to the team and the fans that the regular season is over and its time for the playoffs. I do think this has a lot to do with the teams lackluster performance of late. If the Yanks fold the girardi show should end.

  15. Lisa says:

    This team has clinched nothing and just because Boston is 11-13 in their last 24 also doesn’t mean they can’t go on a run. Other teams have done it so why can’t they? They also look like the hungrier team and the looser team right now. Teams also have gone on losing streaks. Look at the Padres.

    Moseley going tonight is another move that makes no sense. If Hughes is going to get one more start why not tonight?

    Girardi’s managing is a head scratcher. Read Joel Sherman’s column today. He hits the nail on the head with his use of Gaudin. BTW, Gaudin and Javy are possible starters for Tuesday in Toronto according to LoHud. Doesn’t that inspire confidence?

    Just because people point out concerns doesn’t mean they are jumping off bridges. It doesn’t make them bad fans or less of a fan.

    In 2004 everyone said the Yankees could win won game when they had a 3-0 lead. The Sox would never come back. Well we all saw how that turned out so for people to lecture others on this board about how the Yankees can’t miss the playoffs are kidding themselves. It can happen.

    • Zack says:

      Because if you use Hughes tonight then he’s on 10+ days rest for his playoff start

    • Zack says:

      Yankees have a 99+% chance of making the playoffs. Saying “there’s a chance” doesn’t change that, thinking the Sox aren’t going to lose a game and Yankees wont win a few isn’t realistic.

      • Evan3457 says:

        98.5%, according to Baseball Prospectus’ Postseason Odds.

        It was 99% a couple of days ago, the last time I looked.

      • Reggie C. says:

        I think the chance that the RS reel off 8 straight wins > than the Yankees not being able to win at least 3 games in its schedule.

        Yes. I believe the RS are the kind of team that can get super-hot and win ALL its games down the stretch. Is it possible the Yanks get swept tonight? Absolutely. Can this Yankees team go to TOR tomorrow and absolutely open a can of whup on the Jays? Absolutely. … and that’s what i’m praying for.

        Can you the shock and horror if the Yankees simply didn’t pull off more than a couple wins and missed the frigging playoffs? That very thought should keep the team frosty for the rest of its schedule. Play scared.

        • Reggie C. says:

          Can you imagine …

          (ugh. just woke up typing errors. apologies)

        • Zack says:

          The first statement confuses me. It doesn’t matter which event has a better chance of happening- both of those things have to happen. And Baseball Prospectus gives that a 1.5% of happening.

          Is there a CHANCE? Yes, just saying we should stay realistic.

    • first time long time says:

      i wouldnt pitch hughes tonight because of how poorly he pitches at home. and compared to how CC and pettitte have pitched lately, i don’t see that moseley cpuld be any worse.

    • Chris says:

      This team has clinched nothing and just because Boston is 11-13 in their last 24 also doesn’t mean they can’t go on a run. Other teams have done it so why can’t they? They also look like the hungrier team and the looser team right now. Teams also have gone on losing streaks. Look at the Padres.

      The thing is, for the Yankees to lose to the Red Sox, both things would need to happen. The Red Sox would need to go on a winning streak and the Yankees would need to go on a losing streak. Considering that the Yankees are the better team, it’s much more likely that the Red Sox will be the ones to go on the losing streak and the Yankees will go on a winning streak.

      • Reggie C. says:

        The pertinent question is no longer which team is better. Its who’s playing better right now. Can Toronto may have reeled off 3 straight wins coming into today’s game with Baltimore, and it sets up a very interesting 3 game matchup with the Yanks.

      • Lisa says:

        Which team is on the losing streak right now? The Yankees! They are the ones who have lost 4 in a row. With Moseley on the mound tonight, you don’t think 5 in a row is out of the realm of possibility? I sure do!

        The words likely, probably, chances, percentages, odds, really don’t mean a whole lot right now.

        This team is not playing good baseball and the manager is not making good decisions and has acted like there is an “X” next to their name in the standings. I laugh every time I read about setting up a post-season rotation. Let’s get there first!

        • What I hear when you talk: BOOGA BOOGA 2004 RED SOX CHOKE 2004 BOOGA!

          What are you so scared of? If you want to ignore facts and rational thinking, fine. Don’t try to Fox News everyone and use your narratives to inspire fear in everyone else. If the Yankees somehow miss the playoffs it’s going to take a lot more than you seem to think it will.

          • Lisa says:

            Ignore facts and inspire fear? The facts are the Yankees are playing poor and have lost 4 in a row. Which part of that do you not understand? What exactly gives you confidence they will get things heading in the right direction? Moseley pitching tonight, AJ tomorrow and possibly Javy and Gaudin on Tuesday?

            I love how you and others think you can insult people on this and other forums because some fans see this team in less than a positive light.

    • bexarama says:

      This team has clinched nothing and just because Boston is 11-13 in their last 24 also doesn’t mean they can’t go on a run. Other teams have done it so why can’t they?

      The reason I personally think you’re a doom-and-gloomer – and I am trying not to be a jerk, just point out how others see this – is because you think like this. Boston has been mediocre over their past however many games – but they’re destined to go on some hot run because of other teams. On the other hand, that will certainly not happen to the Yankees. Just like how you said the White Sox will roll over because they have nothing to play for, but the Blue Jays are motivated.

      You’re right to have concerns. The team’s playing like crap. But you’re not logically consistent in your doom-and-glooming. At all. And it’s the only kind of stuff you post, so, well…

      • Lisa says:

        Doom and gloomer? Feel better about yourself calling me a name? Go right ahead. Any team is capable of making a run and any team is capable of a long losing streak. The Yankees are not playing well and have lost 4 in a row. Is there something about that you don’t get?

  16. Pete C. says:

    Right now all those Boston fans are right: the Yanks really do suck.
    But nothing lasts forever.

  17. charliechoochoo says:

    I’ve been an eternal optimist forever. I’m not feeling it right now, and not just because of the losses. Honestly, many times a team will lose heartbreakers or tough breaks or bad calls or something to that effect. And those are tough but not disheartening. These have been disheartening. They just don’t seem to be clicking. I know that their chances of blowing the playoffs is miniscule but even if they make it I’m having a hard time seeing them advancing very far. I hope I’m wrong, but I’m not sure I am.

  18. Brett Gardner says:

    Girardi’s got something up his sleeve, but it may bite his arm off.

  19. Operation Killer B's says:

    The fact that Dustin Mosely is starting a game for us in the middle of a playoff race is ridiculous, we need better pitching depth than Mosely and Gaudin…I’m afraid to say it but with the yankees pitching staff in trouble and the Phillies pitching staff as dominant as it is number 28 may have to wait a year.

    • JMK says:

      It’s hardly a playoff race. While there are scenarios in which we could mathematically not make the playoffs, it’s really unlikely. Even if we lose this game and the Rays win, we would still have roughly a 90% chance of making it.

      I will say this, though: The Phillies scare me more than any other team in the playoffs this year.

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