NLDS Game Thread: Reds @ Phillies

Link Dump: Brown, Berkman, Lee
Facing a clincher, Yanks' ticket prices spike

As a reward for getting no hit by Roy Halladay, the Reds now get to face Roy Oswalt. Sounds like fun. Bronson Arroyo (hah!) goes for Cincy. Good luck with that. This one starts at 6:07pm ET and can be seen on TBS.

Beyond the game, use this as your open thread to talk about whatever.

email
Link Dump: Brown, Berkman, Lee
Facing a clincher, Yanks' ticket prices spike
  • http://twitter.com/SteeeeveO Steve O.

    Over/under .5 hits for the Reds today?

  • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

    The Reds legitimately have no pitching.

    • Ivan

      LESS PITCHING THAN THE YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZOMG REALLYYYY!!!

    • http://twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook fka Johan

      It’s not that they have no pitching, it’s that they have a really young inexperienced staff.

      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        4 starters under the age of 25, but then they have Arroyo and Harang.

        • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

          Volquez is only 26 too. Hmmm

  • vin

    What’s with Utley throwing balls away early in the playoffs? Didn’t he go through this last year?

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

    I would enjoy the Phillies struggling if it wasn’t Arroyo, ick.

    • first time lawng time

      You don’t like Arroyo?

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

      I really hope the Phillies don’t make the WS and someone like the Reds or Braves do.

      • ShuutoHeat

        Yes, the best path is the one of least resistance.

        • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

          The Giants would be a tough match up with their pitchers, but their line up can be pitched to.

          • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

            Agreed. One [umpire-aided] run against Derek Lowe and the Braves bullpen.

            Teams don’t need 5 or 6 runs to beat the Giants.

  • first time lawng time

    Which would you guys prefer in a best of 5 series:
    Winning the first 2 games on the road, then coming home for 2 games.
    or
    Winning the first 2 games as home, then going on the road for 2 games.
    ?

    • ShuutoHeat

      No doubt, come back home 2-0.

  • pat

    I was talkin to one of the clubbies today, and he said Minny is walkin around the locker room and behaving like they’re at a funeral.

    • Sean C

      Well, it is only 24 hours or so until the service starts.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

    Since this is an open thread:

    Zajac-Parise-Kovalchuck: 2, dalls Stars 0.

    Stil 12.20 in the first to go.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      The Canes and Wild are playing in fucking Finland. The early start times are screwing over my fantasy team. I lost out on two assists, four PIM, one power play point, one hit, and nine fucking shot on goals from Mikko Koivu over the last two days because I didn’t set my roster on time. Bastards.

      Not complaining to you, just bitching in general.

      • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

        It’s okay, I understand.

        Also I wanna go visit Finland. Saunas.

      • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

        Hey Mike, tell us how you really feel.

      • Brian in NH

        Watching a lil NCAA Hockey tonight. New Hampshire @Miami. So pumped for it to start again

        • http://twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook fka Johan

          Wisconsin is going to suck this year without Stepan and McDonagh =(

      • http://twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook fka Johan

        I should have picked up James Neal for tonights Devs-Stars game, since he is still available. Somebody picked up Jordan Eberle before the Oilers game yesterday and got lucky.

        …and though I am a Rangers fan, thank you Kovalchuk for your 2 assists!

  • Cy Pettitte

    ot: from Buster Olney

    “From Ron Gardenhire: Joe Mauer talked to the Twins right after Game 2 loss, in an effort to help them turn the page on another loss to NYY.”

    wonder what kind of crazy shit they’ll do before game 3, thoughts on what Gardenhire will burn before this game?

    • Brian in NH

      They should eat more fried chicken

      /wadeboggs’d

  • Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Blog

    Did you all see that Gammons unwittingly disproved “clutchness” and/or “rising to the occasion in the playoffs” today?

    http://tinyurl.com/29x47ut

    Basically the column is that Jeter and Pettitte treated the post season like a regular season game which makes them play to their ability in the playoffs.

    Isn’t just as likely, or more likely, that given a season’s worth of playoff games almost all players would produce to their season averages?

    As the great Yogi Berra once said, “They are who we thought they were”*

    *I know Yogi didn’t say this, but it’s so Berra-esque I think one day people may attribute it to him

    • Brian in NH

      Denny green man

  • JerseyDutch

    I guess the Reds didn’t get the memo that they’re supposed to get swept…

    • vin

      No kidding. Oswalt has thrown his fair share of hittable pitches though.

  • Hall and Nokes

    Melky hitting 5th tonight, in a playoff game. 5th.

    • Ivan

      Hahahaha..that gave me a good chuckle.

    • JerseyDutch

      Wow, that’s just… wow.

    • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

      Well, since we got a Top 5 Cy Young finisher in the deal it’s only fitting we gave up a middle-of-the-order bat in his prime.

    • JerseyDutch

      I was just thinking that’s like the opposite of our situation last night where we had a guy with 350 career home runs hitting eighth…

      • vin

        The Brian Cashman All-Stars, yo!

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Of course that idiot Cashman gives up a middle-of-the-order bat for “Home Run” Javy Vasquez. Stupid!

    • vin

      It’s amazing, for a playoff team, how many below average players they have. Losing Chipper and Prado has to really hurt.

      Alex Gonzalez 83 ops+
      Melky 83
      McClouth 69
      Ankiel 78

      All but McClouth are in tonight’s lineup.

    • first time lawng time

      OMG MELKY!!!

  • Jerome S.

    I was just looking at a random Twins blog – just to know what it was like, you know, losing? – And it’s this hilarious mix of tear-jerking pessimism and laughable rose-colored optimism.

    • JerseyDutch

      How many people said we cheated last night on Berk’s (not) strike three call?

      • Jerome S.

        As you could probably guess, a huge amount. Even on the news this morning during sports, that was basically the one highlight of the game that they mentioned.

  • J.R.

    Remember when Arroyo looked like a fruit cake with those stupid corn rows?

    • All Star Carl

      Sitting between Varitek’s legs getting them done.

  • http://www.yfsf.org AndrewYF

    You know, even if Sabathia pitches Game 4, he can start Game 1 of the ALCS on 4-days rest.

    • Jerome S.

      Haha that was a funny joke about the Yankees not totally pwning the Twinkies tomorrow.

    • vin

      I did not know that. That’s reassuring.

    • JerseyDutch

      Good to know. Now let’s hope they shut them down tomorrow so we get plenty of rest for everyone.

      • http://www.yfsf.org AndrewYF

        It’s crazy that they’d get 5 days of rest if they sweep.

        Do you think they’d play a couple innings of an exhibition game just so they don’t get rusty? What’d they do last year?

        • JerseyDutch

          Probably just workouts for the position players, bullpen sessions for the starters, etc. I don’t really remember what they did last year. Knowing Girardi, he’s prepared for every contingency.

  • pat

    NL baseball, yall.

    • JerseyDutch

      It’s like watching Little League.

      I kid!

  • Hall and Nokes

    It’s not going to happen unless the National League installs a third place series, but I would chuckle at a Lowe-Arroyo matchup in the 2010 postseason.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

    Infield defense herpderp like yeaaaahhh

  • All Star Carl

    Massive choke by Cincy.

    • JerseyDutch

      Making mistakes against Phillie is almost as deadly as making mistakes against the Yanks… almost.

      • All Star Carl

        On 2 routine plays. Phillips diving like hes Pedroia instead of getting in front of it.

        Scott Rolen just booted it.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      Eh, they got out of the inning with the lead. Though it could get interesting if Cordero comes in if it’s still 4-2…

      • All Star Carl

        Yep. Can’t keep it this close. At the same time they do get to attack the Phils Bullpen. Gonna be a fun few innings here.

  • Cy Pettitte

    did anyone see those double Roybow shirts? i have to admit i lol’d

    http://i54.tinypic.com/v2qmqc.jpg

    • JerseyDutch

      Er… I want that five seconds of my life back.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      I noticed that during the game last night and was horrified.

    • Kit

      It’s really disturbing and only adds to my strong dislike of Phillies fans.

  • Cy Pettitte

    nice pickoff

    lets see some Cuban rockets tonight Dusty

  • All Star Carl

    Stubbs should talk to Gardy about being patience.

    • All Star Carl

      patient***

  • Eirias

    “Dusty Baker” and “Strong Bullpen”

    Interesting.

  • ArchStanton

    Geez, more sloppy defense.

    I hope Rhodes pulls through here, he was the Yankees’ b-tch for so many years that I think he deserves a good playoff moment for once.

    And he drills Ruiz. Not good Arthur!

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

    Poor Choooooch

  • first time lawng time

    CLEAR THE BENCHES!

    • http://twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook fka Johan

      Who’s head does Cueto have to kick to get some respect around here? =P

  • Devil In A Blue Cap

    This is kind of a mess. And by “kind of,” I mean “really.”

  • Kit

    I do not like this, Reds. I don’t like it at all!

  • Cy Pettitte

    new prediction: Javy to the Reds in 2011

    he’d fit right in

    • Stratman9652

      They only hit two guys in an inning. Javy would be resented because he’s such an over achiever.

      /low blow

  • Devil In A Blue Cap

    The most annoying thing “Victorino gets an RBI the easy way!”

    It’s harder to get a walk than to get a hit.

    I hate announcers.

    • Hughesus Christo

      No… just no.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

    Can they please shut up that one whistle aaaaahhhhhhh

    • JerseyDutch

      I know. I have the game on in the other room and I can hear that damned whistle.

  • JerseyDutch

    Hankie wavers…

    • Devil In A Blue Cap

      Fans shouldn’t need props to be excited about their teams. And definitely not scraps of fabric. That goes double for thunderstix.

  • Hughesus Christo

    OMFG, AROLDIS

  • Ivan

    I can’t wait to see Champman…Over/under 7 100+ MPH fastballs.

  • http://twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook fka Johan

    I should have posted this in the BA Top Prospect thread, but I was late to the party, so let’s rewind 5 years and take a look at the 2005 BA Top Prospect list for the AA Eastern League.

    *Has played in major leagues

    1. *Francisco Liriano, lhp, New Britain
    2. *Lastings Milledge, of, Binghamton
    3. *Hanley Ramirez, ss, Portland
    4. *Jon Lester, lhp, Portland
    5. *Ryan Zimmerman, 3b, Harrisburg
    6. *Nick Markakis, of, Bowie
    7. *Jonathan Papelbon, rhp, Portland
    8. *Jeremy Sowers, lhp, Akron
    9. *Anibal Sanchez, rhp, Portland
    10. *Joel Zumaya, rhp, Erie
    11. *Yusmeiro Petit, rhp, Binghamton
    12. *Dustin Pedroia, 2b, Portland
    13. *Hayden Penn, rhp, Bowie
    14. *Denard Span, of, New Britain
    15. *Merkin Valdez, rhp, Norwich
    16. Matt Moses, 3b, New Britain
    17. Eric Duncan, 3b, Trenton
    18. *Michael Bourn, of, Reading
    19. *Paul Maholm, lhp, Altoona
    20. *Franklin Gutierrez, of, Akron

    HOLY TALENT BATMAN!

    (I stole the list from soxprospects.com, Papelbon sux lol wutevs)

    • vin

      Eric Duncan was clearly the crown jewel of that class.

      Portland was friggin’ stacked.

  • Ivan

    Is it physically possible that a lefthanded batter can turn on a 100+ MPH fastball from a left handed pitcher?

  • Kit

    …This is such a mess. And random Jeter mention.

  • Cy Pettitte

    102 miles to the hand and almost no reaction?

    • Cy Pettitte

      mph not miles

      • http://twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook fka Johan

        A ball that travels 105 mph through a distance of 102 miles is disgusting. Chapman must have released it at 135 mph if it kept that pace up.

  • Stratman9652

    Not a guy you want to be hit by.

    PS. Will they ever shut up about Jeter’s acting?

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      Not a guy you want to be hit by.

      So it’s probably a good thing Utley wasn’t ;)

      • Stratman9652

        Truth, but still that would have done some serious damage.

  • mustang

    not even fair…lol

  • Hughesus Christo

    That was embarrassing

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

    That Chapman/Howard matchup result was totally predictable but kind of awesome to see nevertheless

  • mustang

    As a baseball fan I’m happy he with the Reds, but as a greedy Yankees fan I wish they didn’t pass.

    • mustang

      Dreaming CC, Lee, AJ, Hughes, and Chapman. Andy retires.

  • Hughesus Christo

    Rolen on floor, laughing my ass off.

  • V

    RoboUmps.

  • Kit

    That replay did nothing. You can’t even tell if he’s actually safe or out.

  • All Star Carl

    LMAO!!!

  • http://www.yfsf.org AndrewYF

    Ho-lee shit the Reds are terrible.

  • vin

    Ooof.

  • first time lawng time

    LOL. Reds suck.

  • Stratman9652

    Worst. Defensive. Play. Ever.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

    Wow the Reds suck.

    /SSS overreaction

  • Devil In A Blue Cap

    That. Is. So. Sad.

  • V

    As a Cardinals’ fan, :rofl: to the Reds. As a baseball fan. Blegh.

  • Hughesus Christo

    When did the 2006 Tigers take the field?

  • Jerome S

    So Umpires trying to screw with as many games as possible this postseason…

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Wow. Just wow.

  • Kit

    I didn’t want to laugh at you, Reds, but you’re making it difficult.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      I am sitting here crying in laughter. I mean, what else can you do? There are actual tears in my eyes.

      • Kit

        I cried laughing as well. That was just too hilarious, just all around failure on their part.

        • Zanath

          I kind of wanted to hear the Benny Hill music.

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

            Someone really needs to take “highlights” of this game and put them to that.

          • Sam P.

            I’m working remotely tonight so I’m listening to the Reds radio feed online. The announcers were just in disbelief.

  • Zanath

    I’m sorry, that was fairly hilarious.

  • Jerome S

    TBS: Very Funny.

    • Zanath

      IETCVM

  • JerseyDutch

    A horrible implosion.

  • mustang

    Oh! youth

  • first time lawng time

    4 errors? That’s Cervelli-esque.

    Alright that was uncalled for. I’m sorry.

    That’s game 2 of the double header vs the Sox-esque.

  • Devil In A Blue Cap

    I want to cheer for the Reds; I really do. But…they’re playing such unsound baseball.

    …like not going home with that to get the force at home, and save a run.

  • first time lawng time

    At least those were innocent errors. Nothing like this:
    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=was

    • JerseyDutch

      Wow, that was pretty disgraceful.

      • first time lawng time

        Funniest play of the year in my opinion.

        That and Cervelli slipping on a bat while trying to catch a popup and falling a month ago.

      • Zanath

        He’s such a hard-nosed player. It’s totally understandable.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      is this better or worse than when Matt Holliday tried to catch the fly ball with his crotch last year?

      • first time lawng time

        …what? Please, give me the details. That sounds hilarious? I’ve never heard that before.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

          Remember last year’s playoffs? Matt Holliday had an easy pop-up on what would have been the last out of a 2-1 game against the Dodgers, but it like… rolled off his crotch. Dodgers came back to rally.

          • first time lawng time

            Haha. That’s pretty funny.

        • Kit
          • first time lawng time

            Haha what a loser.

            Even though he’s actually good. Whatever.

      • http://twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook fka Johan

        I did that once. I was playing catch with my friend, and the ball goes over my head (I’m short) and hits a tree. I didn’t even see it bounce or anything, and the next thing I know, I had it right between my legs.

  • Stratman9652

    What a mess.

  • Zanath

    OMG take this poor kid out. They’re going to ruin his psyche.

  • Jerome S

    This Phillies team is actually rather impressive. They looked kind of dead back in interleague (the last time I paid serious attention to them) but they’re kind of… rocking it…
    A Yanks-Phils WS would be pretty entertaining, but as a Yankees fan I would really like to see the Phillies put out before then.

  • Zanath

    Do the Phillies have any runs that aren’t un-earned in this game? I can only think of one off the top of my head.

  • JerseyDutch

    That whistle is driving me crazy!!!

  • first time lawng time

    Fact: Charlie Manuel = creepy.

    Also, if this game isn’t over by 9:30,what channel are the Giants and Melkys on?

    • Zanath

      I’m assuming it will be on TNT

  • Kit

    Cano has spoiled me. I feel like every other second baseman doesn’t throw the ball properly to first base. The motions aren’t smooth enough.

    • first time lawng time

      Fact: Cano = best second basemen ever. in 2010. ever.

  • All Star Carl

    Reds looked much better when they got no hit.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      IETVM

      It’s true.

  • Ben

    Pretty amazing that there is no instant replay in this sport. What a joke.

  • http://twitter.com/Brad_Toughy Brad Toughy

    On a note related to this game, my brother’s kid has a tee-ball game tomorrow morning.

  • Zanath

    Werth almost lol’d that ball. What’s going on tonight?

  • first time lawng time

    Fact (seriously though): Of the 6 runs that the Phillies have, only one of them was earned.

    One.

    83% of the runs the Phillies have right now are unearned.

    • Ben

      And that one earned run scored because of two walks and two hit by pitches. So they really haven’t ‘earned’ any of their six runs.

  • first time lawng time

    I don’t want to sound like a jerk, but I really hope the Phillies don’t even make it to the WS. Their fans annoy me. And I would like nothing more than to see their hearts shatter.

    Yeah I probably sound like a jerk right now. Sorry everyone.

  • Bob Stone

    The Reds gave this one away. I was so hoping to see the Yanks meet the Reds in the World Series to get revenge for the 1976 Big Red Machine slaughter. But it ain’t going to happen. Plus I didn’t want to see the Yankees face the Phillies.

    • All Star Carl

      I like the Yankees facing pitchers they’ve seen before.

      • first time lawng time

        They’ve seen Oswalt?

        And we don’t necessarily know that the Yankees are going to the WS.

        • Zanath

          Remember that combined no-hitter against the Yankees in like, 03? Oswalt started that game before he left with a groin injury.

          • Zanath

            Oh, and fun fact: Jeff Weaver started that game for the Yanks.

        • Kit

          Yup, they’ve seen Oswalt. They’ve played the Astros in interleague, so he’s faced them at least once or twice. They didn’t this year though.

        • All Star Carl

          I’m just saying.

  • first time lawng time

    Right now, the Reds have more errors in this game than Cano had in the entire season.

    • Bob Stone

      Just pathetic. Sad to watch. And they have been a great defensive team this year. I think it comes down to sports psychology. They just don’t feel like they deserve to be here, let alone win . . . Just like the Twins don’t feel up to beating the Yanks.

      • Kit

        Disagree. Not about sports psychology at all — though making errors can be demoralizing — but about who the better all around team is, and right now, that’s the Phillies. You have to be able to play defense, hit, and pitch in order to win games. The Reds haven’t been able to play clean D.

  • Bob Stone

    Game over – Series Over.

    • Kit

      Reverse lock?