Open Thread: World Series Game Four
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Oh Frenchy. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum)
So now we have ourselves a series. The Rangers grabbed Game Three thanks to Colby Lewis and that royal pain in the ass Mitch Moreland*, and Neftali Feliz even managed to find his way to the mound. Tonight’s pitching matchup features Tommy Hunter vs. Madison Bumgarner, which is an easy win for the Giants on paper. Insert cliche about not playing the games on paper here. Hopefully it’s an exciting game, and I’m still rooting for a Game Seven, so a Texas win wouldn’t be the worst thing in my world.
Anyway, here’s your open thread for the game and whatever else you want to talk about. The late football game has the Steelers at the Saints, which should be worth watching between innings. You guys know what to do, have at the thread and enjoy the games.
* Seriously, where the eff did this guy come from? Dude was riding buses in the minors in late July, and now he’s putting together ten pitch at-bats in the Fall Classic. Texas almost turned him into a pitcher for cryin’ out loud.
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With significant help from JGS, I completed the Sunday crossword. BOOM.
And yes, I know you all care *that* much.
whoo!!!
Lets go Giants.
#FuckYeah
Best analysis of the Yankees I’ve ever heard: http://video.adultswim.com/car.....texas.html
Haha…I didn’t expect to enjoy that as much as I did. I hate Aqua Teen, but that was hilarious.
lmfao that was hilarious
That was the best thing I have ever seen.
Boon Logan for Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, and Wilson? Eh, I guess that’s OK, but only if they throw in Bumgarner.
So after benching The Machine, the bottom of the Giants order is Ishikawa-Renteria-Schierholtz. Yeesh
Schierholtz is going deep
TWSS.
I’m actually in NYC tonight because this was supposed to be the night the Yanks captured number 28. Really.
For of all sad words of tongue or pen,
The saddest are these: ‘It might have been!’”
John Greenleaf Whittier
But, what better place to distract oneself than NYC????
I thought you were quoting Felix Unger.
Planning on them sweeping might not have been the ideal way to play the odds.
True but I have a day job and am on am early flight back to Chicago.
Good thing FOX and Cablevision settled in time to broadcast the 2nd lowest-rated World Series game of all time to the clamoring 3 million Cablevision homes. I’m sure Bud Selig is just loving it.
Shhhh, this is the World Series everyone wanted!! It lets us see how good the WS can possibly be without those stupid Yankees.
It also let’s us see exactly how many of the owners are marketing geniuses rather than just corporate socialists. Very, very few of them, including Selig, seem to have learned the real secret of the NFL and NBA’s success — talk about parity but internally push for a core of super franchises to be the brand leaders (you really think Stern was upset to see LeBron, Wade, and Bosh end up together in Miami?). The best narrative in sports is the underdog toppling the massive, perennial favorite. The second best narrative is the dynastic franchise surpassing its own excellence yet again.
Do you think this guy will print a retraction? Nah.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....ortCat=mlb
Caple is terrible. His videos during the ALCS were literally painful to watch. He’s a mindless idiot.
He’s an admitted hater. At least he doesn’t equivocate like Neyer.
Here’s the link to the ratings story:
can you post a link to the ratings story. it should interesting
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....akuma.html
I think the Yanks should go after Iwakuma. He would add depth to the rotation and would be an OK failsafe if for some reason we don’t sign Clifton Phifer.
Name one Japanese pitcher who somewhat lived up to the hype or was even half the pitcher he was in Japan? I’m over the imports for now.
This.
Hideo Nomo.
Whoa, haven’t heard that name in years.
Nomo had his moments, but he wasn’t really any great shakes overall. A 24.9 fWAR over 12 seasons isn’t much to get excited about.
The league figured him out after a couple of years too, just like Dice-K. He had two strangely good seasons near the end of his career, but he had a 92 career ERA+ after his first two seasons (even including his solid 2002-3).
Being Japanese really doesn’t have much to do with it.
It kinda does. The leagues are pretty different, IIRC so is their schedule of rest. It’s not like their bodies can’t handle it, just they’re so not used to it. I’m wary of dropping a lot of cash on Japanese pitchers, honestly.
Kuroda.
Kuroda is solid. Too bad he came over at such an old age and will be 36 by opening day 2011.
i’d do 2/26. but he’ll get more.
Colby Lewis?
So I’ve heard a lot of analysis saying the Rangers were almost definitely going to go with Cliff Lee in this game if they lost last night. Why that case, but not this one? It’s a lot different with a 2-2 series than a 1-3 one. It’s not that you can’t come back from 0-3, but it’s a big hole. Then again, maybe Cliff Lee simply doesn’t know how to prepare himself for three days’ rest or he’s still bothered by his back.
(This is totally babbling, whatever)
Yeah, I think it’s the latter. I thought it was kind of suspicious that they were planning on going with three starters and suddenly changed it to four. It’s not like Hunter is the absolute worst, but Hunter over Lee is just not an improvement unless there is something horribly wrong with Lee on short rest. Maybe it was the re-injury concern or maybe they know something the rest of us don’t, but I think had the lost yesterday, it would’ve been a sweep (and I would have enjoyed this a lot more).
A lost from the Rangers tonight will go along nicely with that Cowgirl beat down today.
The uglyness of the Jets game was made better by the knowledge that they are not the Cowboys
My sympathy on the Jets games as a Giants fan I’m well aware of how ugly a game can get when the wide receivers decide to avoid the football.
Didn’t you hear the Cowgirls are going to have a top 10 pick next year and they are going to be great forever and ever and live happily ever after. Until then I get to enjoy watching them get their heads handled to them.
do the yankees really view nunez as jeter’s successor?
Let’s hope not.
Seconded.
Or if they do, that Nunez is a lot better than Mike thinks he is.
In last night’s game, all the runs scored on home runs. Does anyone know, is that commonplace in the World Series, or something that happens only infrequently? Seems like the kind of thing some stathead would be right on.
I admit it. I love Lyle Lovett.
Can we go back in time a year? That WS game ruled
Bexy, did the Good Fairy NOT give you the “Rewind” function when you were born? OMG, that must be so difficult.
George W. Bush can still throw a strike.
it’s not that hard.
I was at a minor league game a few years ago and Larry King and Bob Costas threw out the first pitches and they both hit strikes, and they’re short and skinny.
Plus, he didn’t throw from the mound. The grass in front of the hill doesn’t count.
it’s not that hard.
tell that to oliver perez.
It’s the first inning
against Tommy Hunter
with a hot hitter
WHY ARE YOU BUNTING
THE NATIONAL LEAGUE!
Everything in Yankeeland remains a mystery. Why did Dave Eiland take a leave of absence? Why was he fired? And why did AJ have a blackeye and did whatever the hell caused it part of the reason he was off? And who will catch AJ this year?
I really want to know about that blackeye. In the day of the interwebs how do the Yankees manage to keep a lid on absolutely everything?
Because unlike other teams the Yankees don’t want to spend every waking second in being the headlines. Other than ‘Yankees win …’ of course.
Eiland was fired for punching AJ because he refused to throw the ten-seam fastball. Book it.
True story.
Frenchy would be a cheerleader.
Tommy Hunter makes Larry the Cable Guy look like Brad Pitt.
That double play was turned beautifully. Almost Cano-esque.
hechavarria’s 2010 numbers are awful.
I guess that’s why they call Hamilton Superman.
/disgusted’d
San Francisco’s lineup really sucks.
Is this the World Series or the zombie apocalypse?
SF/Tex is a brutal match-up, perhaps the most uninteresting to me since SF/Oakland. To make matters the game more unimportant for me, my other favorite teams (Along with the Yankees) were on. Last night the Nitts were playing Michigan, so I watched PSU, and tonight the Steelers are playing New Orleans, so I am watching my Steelers.
Again with the bunting…
Boom.
And that’s why Huff was the best offensive man in San Francisco.
AUBREY HUFF.
joe buck sure sounds disappointed. Way to be professional.
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Exhibit A in why I’m rooting for the Giants.
It’s galling to see a non-entity like Hunter pitch relatively well.
You guys are boring.
So is this series.
How many current major leaguers (not prospects) hold more value to their club than Posey?
I can’t think of many. Maybe Longoria since he’s signed so long for so cheap.
Pujols? Tulo? Felix Hernandez?
if you could clone pujols, maybe.
This game is pretty unwatchable.
This series needs Ines Sainz interviewing every on-deck batter…
Rosenthal is wearing a fucking bow-tie. What. An. Asshole.
Second straight night. Craig Sager much, Rosenthal?
He’s worn a bow tie for all four games, actually.
Molina is fucking corpulent.
Between Molina and Sandoval this series is well over its weight limit.
/throwing stones in a glass house
This game is like Yanks-Red Sox without the entertainment.
Odds Moreland washes out of the league?
Cablevision just broke the deal with Fox after James Dolan watched this game.
Wow its real bad when a WS game can’t even get 100 comments here by the 7th.
Glad I’m taping this game. I need something for my insomnia when the heavy drugs don’t work.
Dammit Texas, at least put up a fight. They haven’t even gotten a man to second yet.
I still can’t believe the Yankees lost to this team this game is just pissing me off even more.
They blew their wad in the ALCS.
I guess but it wasn’t like they went 7 games with each game being close.
Well that was horrible.
GBA, I’m assuming? Yeah, that was bad.
Yup. Why does everybody do their own rendition? Stick to doing the classic style or something like that.
Or how about, you know, not doing it anymore. It’s so fucking prosaic at this point that it has lost all of it’s meaning.
Did enjoy seeing Laura Bush standing there with her arms crossed.
True. It probably lost all meaning in 2002. I mean damn, at some point we all have to move on and accept what happened.
poor mr. berlin.
Do they really think that calling it “the Truck of Texas” is going to increase sales anywhere outside of Texas?
Just looked up that ’66 WS. The O’s won 5-2 in the first game, then shut out the Dodgers 6-0, 1-0, 1-0 in games two-four. Wow.
Dodgers made 6 errors in game 2.
Koufax’s last season. Jim Palmer pitched against him. Palmer was 20.
Willie Davis made three errors in one inning. I think that was the last game Koufax pitched. The Dodgers were coming of a brutal pennant race with the Giants (back when September was important).
Giants led by 4 1/2 on September 12. Dodgers wound up clinching against the Phillies (6-3)in the second game of a DH on the last day of the season. I’m not positive but Koufax may have been pitching on two days rest.
Here let me help you.
too funny.
San Francisco’s pitching depth is unfair.
That’s twice that Bumgarner has made Vlad look stupid with that swing.
Rooting so hard for a KinslerFail here. Don’t let me down, Madison.
Sweet.
that was sick
The fact that Bumgarner should improve on this season should be enough to scare the shit out of every NL West team.
BUSTER POSEY IS A MAN
Damn, Buster.
Cliff Lee is gonna put a razor of layaway after this game.
on***
Noticed Lee shaved, is he preparing for that NYY press conference in December/January?
How long do you think McCarver was waiting to bust out that line?
madison bumgarner is the tits
This series = wow
Holland can throw strikes. Who knew?
Send Bum out in the 9th, please
Do the Giants send out Bumgarner for the ninth? I think they do, provided Bochy has a very short leash.
Heyman now says he talked to a scout who would take Bumgarner over Halladay, CC, Hamels, Lee, and Lincecum.
j/k
If the Yankees have trouble seeing average starters for the first time,
how do you think they would have done against this Giant staff?
None of these guys are average. Sanchez is the worst of the four, and he had the fourth highest K/9 in baseball this year.
Insanity.
I know that’s my point.
Ah, my bad yo.
walking dead…amazing.
I am extremely giddy right now. If/When the Giants clinch, I may go nuts and break out in dance.
Koufax closed out his career with 4 complete games. He clinched the pennant on the final day of the season on two days rest and came back
for his last start in Game 2 against the Oriole’s on 3 days rest. Though the Dodgers lost 6-0, Koufaz only gave up one earned run.
Koufax
No Mr. Bum, U dont have the best closer in the game. We do.
When Mo broke out onto to the scene in 96, Bum was seven years old.
There is a very good argument to be made that Wilson was better than Mo this year. Mo’s greatness lies in being a top-5 closer every single year, not being top-1 every time.
Exactly. Year after year, we hear, “Papelbon/Rodriguez/Insert-has-been-here is better than Mo. And then in two years they’re gone… or beating the shit out of their relatives. Either way, Closer is a highly volatile position that few hold for long, and Mo’s had it for six years.
Six years longer than anyone else, my bad.
I actually kind of laughed because he started with “we have one of — um, I mean, we have the best closer” and it sounded so very out like their PR guidelines on how to speak about teammates. I mean, Wilson is very good. He’s not Mo.
Yeah, I heard that. He knows Mo is the best, he just cant say that on TV
That being said, great kid. He pitched an awesome game.
If the Giants win, I want it to end with Brian Wilson pulling out the machine on the mound and celebrating with it.
Call me crazy, but I wonder if Adam Warren has the chance of becoming Brian Wilson.
Oh, and yes, I know he is a starter right now.