Oct
31

Open Thread: World Series Game Four

By

Oh Frenchy. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum)

So now we have ourselves a series. The Rangers grabbed Game Three thanks to Colby Lewis and that royal pain in the ass Mitch Moreland*, and Neftali Feliz even managed to find his way to the mound. Tonight’s pitching matchup features Tommy Hunter vs. Madison Bumgarner, which is an easy win for the Giants on paper. Insert cliche about not playing the games on paper here. Hopefully it’s an exciting game, and I’m still rooting for a Game Seven, so a Texas win wouldn’t be the worst thing in my world.

Anyway, here’s your open thread for the game and whatever else you want to talk about. The late football game has the Steelers at the Saints, which should be worth watching between innings. You guys know what to do, have at the thread and enjoy the games.

* Seriously, where the eff did this guy come from? Dude was riding buses in the minors in late July, and now he’s putting together ten pitch at-bats in the Fall Classic. Texas almost turned him into a pitcher for cryin’ out loud.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

    With significant help from JGS, I completed the Sunday crossword. BOOM.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

      And yes, I know you all care *that* much.

    • http://www.twitter.com/jordan_smed JGS

      whoo!!!

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    Lets go Giants.

    #FuckYeah

  • JerseyDutch

    Best analysis of the Yankees I’ve ever heard: http://video.adultswim.com/car.....texas.html

    • Kit

      Haha…I didn’t expect to enjoy that as much as I did. I hate Aqua Teen, but that was hilarious.

    • EvoLuTioN aka Jobamania

      lmfao that was hilarious

    • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

      That was the best thing I have ever seen.

    • Kevin G.

      Boon Logan for Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, and Wilson? Eh, I guess that’s OK, but only if they throw in Bumgarner.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

    So after benching The Machine, the bottom of the Giants order is Ishikawa-Renteria-Schierholtz. Yeesh

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

      Schierholtz is going deep

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        TWSS.

  • Nuke Ladoosh

    I’m actually in NYC tonight because this was supposed to be the night the Yanks captured number 28. Really.

    • Betty Lizard

      For of all sad words of tongue or pen,
      The saddest are these: ‘It might have been!’”

      John Greenleaf Whittier

      But, what better place to distract oneself than NYC????

      • Nuke Ladoosh

        I thought you were quoting Felix Unger.

    • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

      Planning on them sweeping might not have been the ideal way to play the odds.

      • Nuke Ladoosh

        True but I have a day job and am on am early flight back to Chicago.

  • JohnnyC

    Good thing FOX and Cablevision settled in time to broadcast the 2nd lowest-rated World Series game of all time to the clamoring 3 million Cablevision homes. I’m sure Bud Selig is just loving it.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Shhhh, this is the World Series everyone wanted!! It lets us see how good the WS can possibly be without those stupid Yankees.

      • JohnnyC

        It also let’s us see exactly how many of the owners are marketing geniuses rather than just corporate socialists. Very, very few of them, including Selig, seem to have learned the real secret of the NFL and NBA’s success — talk about parity but internally push for a core of super franchises to be the brand leaders (you really think Stern was upset to see LeBron, Wade, and Bosh end up together in Miami?). The best narrative in sports is the underdog toppling the massive, perennial favorite. The second best narrative is the dynastic franchise surpassing its own excellence yet again.

    • JerseyDutch

      Do you think this guy will print a retraction? Nah.

      http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....ortCat=mlb

      • the tenth inning stretch

        Caple is terrible. His videos during the ALCS were literally painful to watch. He’s a mindless idiot.

        • JohnnyC

          He’s an admitted hater. At least he doesn’t equivocate like Neyer.

          Here’s the link to the ratings story:

          • JohnnyC
    • Jenny

      can you post a link to the ratings story. it should interesting

  • Carlosologist

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....akuma.html

    I think the Yanks should go after Iwakuma. He would add depth to the rotation and would be an OK failsafe if for some reason we don’t sign Clifton Phifer.

    • Jimmy McNulty

      Name one Japanese pitcher who somewhat lived up to the hype or was even half the pitcher he was in Japan? I’m over the imports for now.

      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        This.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Hideo Nomo.

        • Kit

          Whoa, haven’t heard that name in years.

        • FIPster Doofus

          Nomo had his moments, but he wasn’t really any great shakes overall. A 24.9 fWAR over 12 seasons isn’t much to get excited about.

        • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

          The league figured him out after a couple of years too, just like Dice-K. He had two strangely good seasons near the end of his career, but he had a 92 career ERA+ after his first two seasons (even including his solid 2002-3).

      • http://twitter.com/iiKeane JobaWockeeZ

        Being Japanese really doesn’t have much to do with it.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          It kinda does. The leagues are pretty different, IIRC so is their schedule of rest. It’s not like their bodies can’t handle it, just they’re so not used to it. I’m wary of dropping a lot of cash on Japanese pitchers, honestly.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Kuroda.

        • FIPster Doofus

          Kuroda is solid. Too bad he came over at such an old age and will be 36 by opening day 2011.

          • candyforstalin

            i’d do 2/26. but he’ll get more.

      • bobtaco

        Colby Lewis?

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    So I’ve heard a lot of analysis saying the Rangers were almost definitely going to go with Cliff Lee in this game if they lost last night. Why that case, but not this one? It’s a lot different with a 2-2 series than a 1-3 one. It’s not that you can’t come back from 0-3, but it’s a big hole. Then again, maybe Cliff Lee simply doesn’t know how to prepare himself for three days’ rest or he’s still bothered by his back.

    (This is totally babbling, whatever)

    • Kit

      Yeah, I think it’s the latter. I thought it was kind of suspicious that they were planning on going with three starters and suddenly changed it to four. It’s not like Hunter is the absolute worst, but Hunter over Lee is just not an improvement unless there is something horribly wrong with Lee on short rest. Maybe it was the re-injury concern or maybe they know something the rest of us don’t, but I think had the lost yesterday, it would’ve been a sweep (and I would have enjoyed this a lot more).

  • mustang

    A lost from the Rangers tonight will go along nicely with that Cowgirl beat down today.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

      The uglyness of the Jets game was made better by the knowledge that they are not the Cowboys

      • mustang

        My sympathy on the Jets games as a Giants fan I’m well aware of how ugly a game can get when the wide receivers decide to avoid the football.

        Didn’t you hear the Cowgirls are going to have a top 10 pick next year and they are going to be great forever and ever and live happily ever after. Until then I get to enjoy watching them get their heads handled to them.

  • candyforstalin

    do the yankees really view nunez as jeter’s successor?

    • JerseyDutch

      Let’s hope not.

      • Accent Shallow

        Seconded.

        Or if they do, that Nunez is a lot better than Mike thinks he is.

  • tom

    In last night’s game, all the runs scored on home runs. Does anyone know, is that commonplace in the World Series, or something that happens only infrequently? Seems like the kind of thing some stathead would be right on.

  • Betty Lizard

    I admit it. I love Lyle Lovett.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Can we go back in time a year? That WS game ruled

    • Betty Lizard

      Bexy, did the Good Fairy NOT give you the “Rewind” function when you were born? OMG, that must be so difficult.

  • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

    George W. Bush can still throw a strike.

    • Jenny

      it’s not that hard.

      I was at a minor league game a few years ago and Larry King and Bob Costas threw out the first pitches and they both hit strikes, and they’re short and skinny.

      • rbizzler

        Plus, he didn’t throw from the mound. The grass in front of the hill doesn’t count.

      • candyforstalin

        it’s not that hard.

        tell that to oliver perez.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    It’s the first inning

    against Tommy Hunter

    with a hot hitter

    WHY ARE YOU BUNTING

    • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

      THE NATIONAL LEAGUE!

  • yungsta

    Everything in Yankeeland remains a mystery. Why did Dave Eiland take a leave of absence? Why was he fired? And why did AJ have a blackeye and did whatever the hell caused it part of the reason he was off? And who will catch AJ this year?

    I really want to know about that blackeye. In the day of the interwebs how do the Yankees manage to keep a lid on absolutely everything?

    • http://twitter.com/iiKeane JobaWockeeZ

      Because unlike other teams the Yankees don’t want to spend every waking second in being the headlines. Other than ‘Yankees win …’ of course.

    • JerseyDutch

      Eiland was fired for punching AJ because he refused to throw the ten-seam fastball. Book it.

      • UWS

        True story.

  • Carlosologist

    Frenchy would be a cheerleader.

  • Mickey Scheister

    Tommy Hunter makes Larry the Cable Guy look like Brad Pitt.

  • Carlosologist

    That double play was turned beautifully. Almost Cano-esque.

  • candyforstalin

    hechavarria’s 2010 numbers are awful.

  • Carlosologist

    I guess that’s why they call Hamilton Superman.

    /disgusted’d

  • FIPster Doofus

    San Francisco’s lineup really sucks.

  • JerseyDutch

    Is this the World Series or the zombie apocalypse?

  • Januz

    SF/Tex is a brutal match-up, perhaps the most uninteresting to me since SF/Oakland. To make matters the game more unimportant for me, my other favorite teams (Along with the Yankees) were on. Last night the Nitts were playing Michigan, so I watched PSU, and tonight the Steelers are playing New Orleans, so I am watching my Steelers.

  • rbizzler

    Again with the bunting…

  • UWS

    Boom.

  • Carlosologist

    And that’s why Huff was the best offensive man in San Francisco.

  • the tenth inning stretch

    AUBREY HUFF.

  • Jenny

    joe buck sure sounds disappointed. Way to be professional.

  • Jenny

    nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan!

    nolan ryan!

    nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan!

    nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan!

    nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan!

    nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan!

    nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan!

    nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan! nolan ryan!

    did I forget to mention: nolan ryan!

    • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

      Exhibit A in why I’m rooting for the Giants.

  • Accent Shallow

    It’s galling to see a non-entity like Hunter pitch relatively well.

  • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

    You guys are boring.

    • FIPster Doofus

      So is this series.

  • Hall and Nokes

    How many current major leaguers (not prospects) hold more value to their club than Posey?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I can’t think of many. Maybe Longoria since he’s signed so long for so cheap.

    • bobtaco

      Pujols? Tulo? Felix Hernandez?

      • candyforstalin

        if you could clone pujols, maybe.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    This game is pretty unwatchable.

  • JerseyDutch

    This series needs Ines Sainz interviewing every on-deck batter…

  • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

    Rosenthal is wearing a fucking bow-tie. What. An. Asshole.

    • http://www.blogs.thetenthinningstretch.com the tenth inning stretch

      Second straight night. Craig Sager much, Rosenthal?

      • https://twitter.com/Carcillo_ Carcillo

        He’s worn a bow tie for all four games, actually.

  • Accent Shallow

    Molina is fucking corpulent.

    • Stratman9652

      Between Molina and Sandoval this series is well over its weight limit.

      /throwing stones in a glass house

  • Carlosologist

    This game is like Yanks-Red Sox without the entertainment.

  • Accent Shallow

    Odds Moreland washes out of the league?

  • mustang

    Cablevision just broke the deal with Fox after James Dolan watched this game.

  • mustang

    Wow its real bad when a WS game can’t even get 100 comments here by the 7th.

  • JerseyDutch

    Glad I’m taping this game. I need something for my insomnia when the heavy drugs don’t work.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Dammit Texas, at least put up a fight. They haven’t even gotten a man to second yet.

  • mustang

    I still can’t believe the Yankees lost to this team this game is just pissing me off even more.

    • JerseyDutch

      They blew their wad in the ALCS.

      • mustang

        I guess but it wasn’t like they went 7 games with each game being close.

  • Carlosologist

    Well that was horrible.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      GBA, I’m assuming? Yeah, that was bad.

      • Carlosologist

        Yup. Why does everybody do their own rendition? Stick to doing the classic style or something like that.

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          Or how about, you know, not doing it anymore. It’s so fucking prosaic at this point that it has lost all of it’s meaning.

          • Betty Lizard

            Did enjoy seeing Laura Bush standing there with her arms crossed.

          • Carlosologist

            True. It probably lost all meaning in 2002. I mean damn, at some point we all have to move on and accept what happened.

      • candyforstalin

        poor mr. berlin.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Do they really think that calling it “the Truck of Texas” is going to increase sales anywhere outside of Texas?

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Just looked up that ’66 WS. The O’s won 5-2 in the first game, then shut out the Dodgers 6-0, 1-0, 1-0 in games two-four. Wow.

    • All Star Carl

      Dodgers made 6 errors in game 2.

      Koufax’s last season. Jim Palmer pitched against him. Palmer was 20.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPYWhEMWTys

    • nsalem

      Willie Davis made three errors in one inning. I think that was the last game Koufax pitched. The Dodgers were coming of a brutal pennant race with the Giants (back when September was important).
      Giants led by 4 1/2 on September 12. Dodgers wound up clinching against the Phillies (6-3)in the second game of a DH on the last day of the season. I’m not positive but Koufax may have been pitching on two days rest.

  • mustang

    Here let me help you.
    too funny.

  • Carlosologist

    San Francisco’s pitching depth is unfair.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    That’s twice that Bumgarner has made Vlad look stupid with that swing.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Rooting so hard for a KinslerFail here. Don’t let me down, Madison.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Sweet.

  • http://twitter.com/stophamm3rtime Dela G

    that was sick

  • Carlosologist

    The fact that Bumgarner should improve on this season should be enough to scare the shit out of every NL West team.

  • Carlosologist

    BUSTER POSEY IS A MAN

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Damn, Buster.

  • All Star Carl

    Cliff Lee is gonna put a razor of layaway after this game.

    • All Star Carl

      on***

  • ChrisR

    Noticed Lee shaved, is he preparing for that NYY press conference in December/January? :D

    • All Star Carl

      :) Oh yes.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    How long do you think McCarver was waiting to bust out that line?

  • http://twitter.com/stophamm3rtime Dela G

    madison bumgarner is the tits

  • bonestock94

    This series = wow

  • CBean

    Holland can throw strikes. Who knew?

  • rek4gehrig

    Send Bum out in the 9th, please

  • Carlosologist

    Do the Giants send out Bumgarner for the ninth? I think they do, provided Bochy has a very short leash.

  • All Star Carl

    Heyman now says he talked to a scout who would take Bumgarner over Halladay, CC, Hamels, Lee, and Lincecum.

    j/k

  • nsalem

    If the Yankees have trouble seeing average starters for the first time,
    how do you think they would have done against this Giant staff?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      None of these guys are average. Sanchez is the worst of the four, and he had the fourth highest K/9 in baseball this year.

      • Carlosologist

        Insanity.

      • nsalem

        I know that’s my point.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Ah, my bad yo.

  • Andrew

    walking dead…amazing.

  • Carlosologist

    I am extremely giddy right now. If/When the Giants clinch, I may go nuts and break out in dance.

  • nsalem

    Koufax closed out his career with 4 complete games. He clinched the pennant on the final day of the season on two days rest and came back
    for his last start in Game 2 against the Oriole’s on 3 days rest. Though the Dodgers lost 6-0, Koufaz only gave up one earned run.

    • nsalem

      Koufax

  • rek4gehrig

    No Mr. Bum, U dont have the best closer in the game. We do.

    • Carlosologist

      When Mo broke out onto to the scene in 96, Bum was seven years old.

    • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

      There is a very good argument to be made that Wilson was better than Mo this year. Mo’s greatness lies in being a top-5 closer every single year, not being top-1 every time.

      • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

        Exactly. Year after year, we hear, “Papelbon/Rodriguez/Insert-has-been-here is better than Mo. And then in two years they’re gone… or beating the shit out of their relatives. Either way, Closer is a highly volatile position that few hold for long, and Mo’s had it for six years.

        • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

          Six years longer than anyone else, my bad.

    • CBean

      I actually kind of laughed because he started with “we have one of — um, I mean, we have the best closer” and it sounded so very out like their PR guidelines on how to speak about teammates. I mean, Wilson is very good. He’s not Mo.

      • rek4gehrig

        Yeah, I heard that. He knows Mo is the best, he just cant say that on TV :-)
        That being said, great kid. He pitched an awesome game.

  • AJ M.

    If the Giants win, I want it to end with Brian Wilson pulling out the machine on the mound and celebrating with it.

  • Gonzo

    Call me crazy, but I wonder if Adam Warren has the chance of becoming Brian Wilson.

    Oh, and yes, I know he is a starter right now.