Open Thread: World Series Game Two


Barry once hit .362/.609/.812 with 232 walks and 41 strikeouts in a single season. True story. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

What did you all think of last night’s game? I thought it was pretty exciting actually, at least until the Giants started to pull away at the end. Though watching Vlad Guerrero play defense in rightfield bordered on hilarious and unwatchable. Knocking around Cliff Lee is no small feat, but San Fran’s hacktastic approach might not work so well against C.J. Wilson since he throws so many pitches out of the zone. Matt Cain is the better pitch on paper, but he might get outdone in this one because his teammates kinda suck.

Anyway, here’s your thread for the game. If you’re too heartbroken over the Yankees not being in the Fall Classic and can’t bear to watch, then go ahead and talk about something else then. Anything goes. Enjoy.

Oh, one small site note: We did some rearranging, and the commenting guidelines are now a pull-down from the “About” button in the nav bar above (under the street sign). Read them if you haven’t, or refresh your memory if you already have.

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  1. FIPster Doofus says:

    “Though watching Vlad Guerrero play defense in rightfield bordered on hilarious and unwatchable.”


  2. JGS says:

    Due to my self-imposed media ban from the time the Yankees lost until after my Terrifyingly Enormous Exam this morning, I never got to say thank you to the writers here and all the commenters who made this season awesome, so…thank you all.

  3. Oh, one small site note: We did some rearranging, and the commenting guidelines are now a pull-down from the “About” button in the nav bar above (under the street sign).

    Hiding the commenting bill of rights under bureaucratic subterfuge?

    You’re only further tarnishing the already damaged credibility of this socialist blog, Axisa.

    • Esteban says:

      The Death Panels are coming next, forreals.

      • Read them if you haven’t, or refresh your memory if you already have.

        5. Keep comments on topic. Every day during the regular season, we will host a Game Thread. In that thread, feel free to discuss the Yanks, the news of the day, what’s happening in the game, etc. For the rest of the posts, do your best to keep comments related to the topic at hand…

        10. Do not post the same comment in multiple threads. If you post something just before a game thread is closed, feel free to repeat it in the spillover thread, but do not abuse the privilege. Any repeat comments will be deleted, and if you continue to repost comments you’ll be banned.

        I’m looking at you, newly returned mryankee. Consider yourself refreshed as to the guidelines.

    • Jerome S says:

      Admittedly, it’s not a bill of rights… it’s more or less a step down from “You can do anything on the internet!” to “You can do anything except these things for which you will be banned and eternally damned to hell.”

  4. Esteban says:

    Who’s about to start watching The Wire?

    This guy is and he’s pretty excited because he hasn’t seen it yet.

  5. Sheepmeister says:

    So if you had a choice, would rather have:

    7 World Series titles, 2 other pennants and 1 ALCS appearance in a 10 year period


    1 World Series title every 10 years with the 2 extra pennants and ALCS appearance scattered throughout the 70 years of your life.

    Basically this is dynasty vs. “random” titles with mediocrity to ALDS exits every other year.

    • JAG says:

      Does the dynasty thing preclude the possibility of other titles? B/c watching a dynasty unfold is pretty much the best thing a fan can enjoy, but living in the afteryears watching the team that was once so great toil in obscurity/mediocrity forever after would be agony.

  6. Carlosologist says:

    The Giants are winning this World Series for the Yankees. We’ve played a big role in the construction of both sides.

  7. Adam B says:

    Ben Sheets and Brandon Webb are free agents no? could be good on a 1 year deal.

  8. Big Stein says:

    What Barry could have done in Yankee Stadium (as opposed to Candlestick) and with batters protecting him.

  9. kunaldo says:

    holy F barry.

  10. pete says:

    If one were to watch a highlight reel of all of Bonds’s plate appearances that season, would it have gotten boring? I don’t think so.

  11. JerseyDutch says:

    Can’t decide if I want to watch the game on TV or just follow the score on MLB.com whilst watching The Office UK. Decisions, decisions…

  12. Poopy Pants says:

    Why is Ozzie doing an english broadcast?

  13. I’m only just beginning to appreciate how good Bonds really was

  14. Big Stein says:

    Hannah Storm bring’n da mad slutty


    • Why is it any time a woman wears anything that shows even a tad of skin she’s automatically a slut?

      • Big Stein says:

        can you post some examples

      • I’m with Rebecca. The constant criticism of Storm’s wardrobe smacks of a sexist double standard.

        We men have it easy, our uniforms are cookie-cutter banal.

      • Esteban says:

        Yea, clothing does prove something one way or the other in terms of promiscuity, but on the other hand: If you want to be known as a ‘professional’ reporter, is ‘skin’ appropriate? Would it be ok for a male reporter to show skin

        • Would it be ok for a male reporter to show skin?

          We’ll never really know, because we’ve created a male/female professional dress culture that makes this test case virtually impossible.

        • But guys don’t have to worry about it because it’s socially acceptable for them to wear short sleeves or an open collar (except at, say, goldman sachs)

          • Benjamin Kanacki says:

            So because males don’t have to worry about it, that means women are given a pass on professionalism?

            • Because males don’t have to worry about it, it means they have a far different degree of difficulty and should consider that before they pop off at the mouth about a woman’s wardrobe being unprofessional.

              It’s like a rich person complaining about how a poor person spends their money. Bitch, you’re rich; shit is easy for you.

              • Benjamin Kanacki says:

                If something as simple as dressing oneself is too difficult, then maybe that person should reconsider their chosen field.

                And poor people generally spend their money unwisely, which is what has led them to be poor in the first place. And poor people bitch about how the rich spend their money far more often than the other way around. And most people who are well off worked very hard to get to where they are. Shit definitely wasn’t always easy for them, and certainly isn’t enjoyable for them now with people shitting on them for being successful.

                But the bottom line is that dressing professionally is not terribly difficult for a man or a woman. I work with plenty of women who are able to attire themselves appropriately. Just because she may not think that professional dress is the most fashionable choice doesn’t mean it’s difficult for her to do so. Use common sense. A diving neckline or a super-short skirt are probably best saved for Margarita Mondays after work at Chili’s.

        • Kit says:

          That’s not even the point. In terms of attire, women have a lot more choices than men do, and most of those choices include showing skin. Of course, she could wear slacks and a button down with a vest or something that covers her up completely, but using that “would it be okay for a male reporter to show skin,” is kind of a ridiculous argument. I kind of saw the video in the link and it’s a little blurry, but it looks like she was wearing a dress of an appropriate length and some long boots that covered up a good portion of her legs. If she was in a mini skirt and a shirt six sizes too small, I wouldn’t say anything, but she’s not working in an office, she’s at a basketball game as a reporter.

        • Esteban says:

          Oh and I meant to say doesn’t prove something one way or the other>

      • Murakami says:

        ummm…tedious, cliched phallocentrism?

  15. bexarama says:

    So if the Giants win the WS, I think their bandwagon fans will be only slightly less obnoxious than post-2004 Red Sox bandwagon fans. ZOMG SO FUN!!! GIANTS BASEBALL, TORTURE!!!!! LICNECEUM IS HAWT.

  16. Carlosologist says:

    So if the Giants take Game 2 will everyone STFU about Texas and how awesome they are?

  17. Thomas Tu says:

    Barry Bonds is still my favorite non-Yankee MLB player of all time.

    I like him more than any other Yankee sans Gehrig and DiMaggio.

  18. Carlosologist says:

    Nice bowtie Rosenthal.

  19. Mike Axisa says:

    The Rangers look like the Yankees in the ALCS with these pathetic at-bats.

    • Carlosologist says:

      But they scored runs last night. That’s something we couldn’t do for 44 innings in the ALCS.

    • I don’t think Cain gets as much credit as he deserves, probably because he’s second-fiddle to Lincecum, but he’s filthy nasty.

      • Carlosologist says:

        Meh, Cain’s an alright pitcher, but he wouldn’t be anything higher than a number 3 starter in the AL. He’s a product of AT&T Park. Look at his HR/FB rate and then look at his FB%. Yikes.

        • FIPster Doofus says:

          FIP-wise, Cain was better on the road than at home from 2007-09.

          • Carlosologist says:

            I was looking at xFIP, but I find that if find the average of FIP and xFIP, you can get a better idea of how the pitcher should pitch*.

            *This is a very raw method. It isn’t adjusted for park and league or anything.

            • FIPster Doofus says:

              The problem with using xFIP in Cain’s case is that it’s always extremely high for him, yet he somehow manages to defy it. Cain gives up a ton of fly balls, but not that many go for homers. You can’t just attribute that to spacious AT&T Park either, as Cain hasn’t exactly surrendered a ton of HRs on the road compared to home. He has actually allowed three more in San Fran in his career, albeit in 85 fewer innings.

      • JGS says:

        57-62 for his career (despite a 3.45 ERA) doesn’t help either. He doesn’t know how to win!!

  20. cano is the bro says:

    Cain doesn’t look like he has eyes, he looks like a demon or something

  21. Avi says:

    This is boring.
    I say the Yanks and Phillies get together and play a seven game series.

  22. Thomas Tu says:

    Shoulda signed Bonds after his first contract with the Giants ended. sigh.

  23. JerseyDutch says:

    Tonight is the pitching duel?

  24. Tom Zig says:

    Letttttttsss gooo Giants

  25. Carlosologist says:

    Man, that was literally an inch away from a homer.

  26. Tom Zig says:

    Are the Sox still paying Renteria?

  27. All Star Carl says:


    I want to shoot myself.

  28. mike c says:

    matt cain is awesome

  29. FIPster Doofus says:

    Big Daddy Cain is killing it

  30. Carlosologist says:

    Now the Rangers know what it feels like to be BABIP’s bitch.

  31. Tom Zig says:

    Can we loan Mariano Rivera to the Giants for the week?

  32. mike c says:

    LOL at the dallas reporter getting a taste of SF while he visits the ballpark

  33. Carlosologist says:

    I’m being completely honest here. I want CJ Wilson’s sideburns.

  34. yungsta says:

    They were once the NY Giants and I’ve met people who actually followed them out there. I’ve known people here who still call them the Jints.

  35. Carlosologist says:

    What a play by Schierholtz. Nice range.

  36. yungsta says:

    Yankees: oh crap, we forgot to buy the Series this year! (palm meet face)

  37. Esteban says:

    Renteria, you gotta catch that bro

  38. Leo in Houston says:

    Ya can’t walk Elvis. That will burn you.

  39. Big Stein says:

    Cain didn’t tip his hat. bad etiquette.

  40. Esteban says:

    Ugh Bieber’s a Rangers fan?

  41. Carlosologist says:

    Where was this Derek Holland in the ALCS?

  42. FIPster Doofus says:

    Mike Maddux is easily the most annoying pitching coach in baseball.

  43. Dela G says:

    10 straight balls??? this is epic

  44. Leo in Houston says:


  45. Esteban says:

    Where was this Derek Holland

  46. Leo in Houston says:

    Take 2

  47. Boy Jorge says:

    Talk about “shitting the bed”

  48. pat says:

    WTF why couldn’t he shit the bed like this against us?

  49. Carlosologist says:

    Nolan Ryan must have seen flashes of his young career during that 1 strike, 12 ball performance.

  50. Jon in CUO says:

    I’ve never seen that before. Where was Washington’s hook?

  51. Leo in Houston says:

    Wear it Uribe

  52. Carlosologist says:

    I wanna know where this Rangers pen was in the ALCS.

  53. pat says:

    This is so fucking awesome.

  54. Leo in Houston says:

    Nollie needs to stay calm. Already had one heart surg

  55. Boy Jorge says:

    That mound must stink, with all the shitting going on out there, this half inning. Poor Wilson.

  56. pat says:

    I’d like to know what Jon Daniels did in Colorado as an intern in 2001 to warrant being hired as the assistant director of baseball operations for Texas the very next season. That’s freaking nuts.

  57. Carlosologist says:

    When was the last time there were three consecutive bases loaded walks?

  58. Leo in Houston says:

    If you don’t swing you walk Rent

  59. Ray the Anti-Handle says:

    Strikes are overrated.

  60. CBean says:

    I’m probably enjoying this Ranger bullpen collapse too much.

  61. Esteban says:

    So what’s the MSM storyline gonna be?

  62. Carlosologist says:

    Is Renteria World Series MVP?

    /too early, probably

  63. JerseyDutch says:

    I thought the Giants weren’t supposed to have much of an offense.

  64. Leo in Houston says:

    Dogs chasing cars, pros putting for pars and pitchers throwing fours. See you in Texas.

  65. tom says:

    Well, the Rangers bullpen is living up to everything we thought it would be against the Yankees. Too bad, except for one inning, our guys couldn’t make it happen.

    So, based on last night’s game, should we now expect a 3-4 run Ranger rally in the 9th?

  66. Dela G says:

    epic epic epic meltdown

  67. Carlosologist says:


    Keep piling it on Giants.

  68. JerseyDutch says:

    Can we officially call this one a laffer?

  69. cano is the bro says:

    this is hilarious, hey texas. Karma is a bitch

  70. Leo in Houston says:

    Giants need one in Texas

  71. Zanath says:

    I think the Giants have surpassed their run total for the entire postseason.

  72. Ray the Anti-Handle says:

    This is fucking hilarious.

  73. Zanath says:

    So now Giants bullpen is going to give up like five runs, right?

  74. Mike Axisa says:

    Man, Girardi never woulda let this shit happen. He’d have emptied his bullpen and gone to all his A-relievers, even Mo, with the off day tomorrow. But let’s complain about the binder.

  75. bexarama says:

    I could not stop laughing that entire inning. Call me a bitter bitch but schadenfreude is fucking delicious.

  76. Carlosologist says:

    The Rangers have regressed big time.

  77. pat says:

    Juan Uribe is a lot more agile than I thought. That was a pretty nice play.

  78. All Star Carl says:

    Rangers look old.

    Michael Young, no range a third.

    Outfield defense is terrible. Hamilton and Cruz looked lost.

  79. Carlosologist says:

    Send this bitch back to Arlington. I want to see the Giants sweep.

  80. Zanath says:

    Look at these grinders! Even down 9-0 still working the count!


  81. rek4gehrig says:

    Giants = good pitching

  82. bexarama says:


    of the Giants’ runs in this WS has come with two outs. ALL OF THEM.

  83. Camilo Gerardo says:

    why couldn’t we have pitched batter? such a poopy-shoot

  84. FIPster Doofus says:

    Colby Lewis hasn’t gotten rocked in a while. Saturday sounds like a good day for it.

  85. Big Stein says:

    Gotta feelin Lee starts on Sunday.

    And this complete collapse makes it harder for Texas to keep Lee.

  86. Murakami says:

    LOL. Looks like we wore out the Yee-Haws.

  87. pat says:

    Seems like Texas won their World Series in the ALCS.

  88. dan says:

    mr. lee has to get that ring with us.

  89. dan says:

    any chance of getting rags for p………….ing coach?!

  90. Kyle says:

    Does Cliff Lee=Marian Hossa? Going to the Championship game three times in a row with two different teams, before winning it in his third year with yet another team?

  91. rek4gehrig says:

    Washington was visbly PISSED during postgame interview. I smiled.

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