Feinsand: Rangers ‘reach out’ to Andy Pettitte

Open Thread: 42 turns 41
Yanks "quietly" closing in on a deal with Mariano Rivera
A 23-year-old Andy Pettitte delivers a pitch during Game 2 of the 1995 ALDS. (AP Photo/John Dunn)

A few weeks ago, as he adjusted to life back home after a physically taxing season, Andy Pettitte spoke of his uncertain future. Not sure if he wanted to pitch again in 2011, he said that if he were to take the mound again, it would be for only one more year. “At this point in my career, it’ll be New York or it’ll be nowhere for sure,” he added. That hasn’t stopped other teams from calling.

According to a report in The Daily News, Texas Rangers president Nolan Ryan has “reached out” to Andy Pettitte to see if “he could convince the veteran lefthander to pitch in his home state.” Neither Pettitte nor the Rangers have commented on the report.

So should we be worried? I don’t think so. Pettitte has been very explicit in stating his desire to pitch for the Yanks or to stay home. He tried the Houston gig a few years back and wound up in the Bronx again. I do think the Rangers are taking an obvious jab at the Yankees because they see New York at Cliff Lee’s next home. Why not make the Yanks sweat as they pursue Lee and try to re-sign their own free agents at the same time?

If anything, as Mark Feinsand notes, the Rangers’ interest might bump up Pettitte’s price tag a bit. He made $11.75 million in 2010, but due to concerns over Pettitte’s age and health, the Yanks were probably hoping to see that figure drop a bit. With other interest, Pettitte has the ever-important leverage — something that has, for instance, so far eluded Derek Jeter — and he could make the Yanks pay for it.

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Update (10:00 p.m.): The Rangers have seemingly denied contacting Andy Pettitte, MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch reported this evening. According to Hoch’s Rangers’ sources, “the only contact between Pettitte and the club was when the lefty called Ryan after the ALCS to congratulate him.” Take that for what you will.

Open Thread: 42 turns 41
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  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    NOLAN RYAN I WILL FIGHT YOU.

    And probably lose. Like, really badly.

    BUT I. WILL. FIGHT. >:(

    (Like I said on the Open Thread though, not really any need to freak out until there’s mutual interest or whatever.)

    • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS
      • Plank

        When I was 25, I was like Robin Ventura in that video. Now I’m a bit older, a bit wiser and I hope I’m like Nolan Ryan in that video when I’m 46.

        • http://www.twitter.com/james_dasilva James d.

          Two things I always notice when I watch that: 1. Ryan looks amazingly pissed off around the 1:01 mark, like he didn’t get to finish the job. 2. The White Sox announcers have always been the worst in the game. I love how they watch the replay and seem to conclude Ventura was the victim AND that Ryan really didn’t do much. If I remember from the time I saw a longer version, there’s even more talk like that.

          • Plank

            Nolan Ryan would kill all of us if he found out we were talking about him and not addressing him as Mr. Ryan.

    • Sick Nwisher

      I hope he doesn’t give you the Robin Ventura treatment.

    • MikeD

      Bex, I like your confidence in saying you will “probably lose.”

  • mike o

    will make signing pettitte and lee that much sweeter

  • YankeesJunkie

    This is actually quite enjoyable seeing someone trying to step up to the Yankees in the FA market like this.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

      Yeah, now we know how everyone else feels, I guess.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        Eh… imagine being a Rays fan and knowing one of the faces of your franchise is pretty much 100% to leave after this year. Or being an Indians fan. I’m not gonna go “woe is us Yankee fans” until we get outbid or something.

        • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

          I have a friend who is a devout Marlins fan (despite never even venturing south of the Mason-Dixon line). I went on a rant today about how he’s a fan of a disproportionately successful franchise that plays up the poor-small-market team thing and then uses what little money it has to be idiots.

          ****ing Marlins.

    • Ultimate Yankee Warrior (James)

      Indeed. I’m loving this. I love the fact that Nolan Ryan is saying F-U and bringing the heat inside. Love. It.

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

    http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2010/11/29/money-to-burn-more-on-the-yankees%E2%80%99-budget/

    Larry at IIATMS has a terrific 4-part piece explaining the Yankee finances and business model. It’s a must read for any Yankee fan who wants to know how the team works on the business side of things.

    • YankeesJunkie

      That was a very nice explanation of the Yankees situation which makes me want to fist pump.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

        The takeaway is that the Yanks make all their money in YES, Steiner Collectibles, Legends concessions, etc, etc. The team itself is lucky to break even. That’s why they really do have a budget or else the team loses money. The other businesses are separate entities.

  • http://twitter.com/SteveH_MandAura Steve H

    Yawn. This is of zero concern to me.

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    AWESOME.

    hopefully the Rangers sign Pettitte for 1/25 and Lee for 8/225!

  • Jimmy McNulty

    Allegedly the Giants reached out to Jeter, so now he like Pettitte has leverage.

    • http://twitter.com/SteveH_MandAura Steve H

      Unless the Giants offered him more than 3/$45 (unlikely) Jeter has no more leverage.

      • Hughesus Christo

        If Derek Jeter had no leverage he would be gone already. In fact he has assloads of leverage, but us commenters are used to making simplistic statements about everything under the sun.

        Every day we hear how Jeter is going to get wildly overpaid yet simultaneously that he “has no leverage.” It’s like saying fire is wet.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          In fact he has assloads of leverage, but us commenters are used to making simplistic statements about everything under the sun.

          Ahem.

          • Hughesus Christo

            Will be a great day when someone being offerred twice to three times his market value can be said to have “no leverage.” Not only offerred twice to three times his value, but WILL get more than that. No leverage!

            • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

              So he has leverage because of that contract offer, and he has that contract offer because of leverage?

              Might as well save some time and join the tautology club directly

              • Hughesus Christo

                Welcome to the reading comprehension club, where we’ve opened a cloak room for people such as yourself who misapply SAT words in the hopes of scoring a “burn” on the Internet. Full admission for guests will still require a $25 cover.

                When did I say the contract itself gives Jeter leverage? The point is that if he had no leverage he wouldn’t not have a 3/45 offer on the table. Not only does he have a 3/45 offer on the table, but he will soon have an even larger offer on the table. Because he has no leverage.

                This is why the Yankees’ approach has been so idiotic from the start. The only “leverage” they have is to keep the money and years at a somewhat reasonable level. They will most certainly lose at the end of the day when they have to raise the offer, versus no other bidders, and on Jeter’s terms. And for what? Even 5 million dollars a year means absolutely nothing to the Yankees. They play with monopoly money. Jeter and Close know this too. The strategy has been asinine. If they come back in three years and Jeter still wants to play, guess what? He’s going to get signed again for an irrationally large amount of money. Because he is Derek Jeter and has no leverage.

        • pat

          If Derek Jeter had no leverage he would be gone already.

          To where? Nobody wants him at his ridiculous price which is the definition of not having any leverage.

        • http://twitter.com/SteveH_MandAura Steve H

          He has no more leverage because the Giants are possibly interested. Unless they offer more than 3/$45 million.

        • MikeD

          In the world of Jeter, fire is wet. And wet is on fire.

    • pat

      Except I’d rather have Pettitte next year.

    • Sick Nwisher

      Leverage? How so?
      Did the Giants offer Jeter 3/45?

  • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

    I’m a straight male, and even I think that Andy looks attractive in that picture. o.O

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Funnily enough I thought he looked kinda eh in that picture. Though, uh, nothing wrong with those pants.

      …I’ll show myself out now.

      • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

        I dunno, maybe it’s a male thing, where I respond to his power pose. All the muscles flexing, the look of intense concentration, it’s really quite attractive.

        Um, yeah.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          Well you know now that you put it like that……..

  • S

    Told you, I posted the article in the last story.

    PS

    Nolan Ryan is still an A-hole for trying this

    • pat

      And someone posted it before you. So in reality, nobody cares.

      • S

        actually no check the open thread 42 turns 41

        also

        kiss my @$$

        • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

          Troll smackdown?

          Anyone?

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          I totally posted it before you! Rawr rawr etc.

          /not really interested in fighting over this, lol whatevs

        • pat

          Lulz

          bexarama says:
          November 29, 2010 at 7:09 pm

          http://www.nydailynews.com/spo…..ankee.html

          I’m sure RAB’ll have an article on it shortly but HELLS NO.

          S says:
          November 29, 2010 at 7:25 pm

          That A-hole Nolan Ryan is trying to steal Andy

          http://www.nydailynews.com/spo…..ankee.html

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        So in reality, nobody cares.

        Repeated for emphasis.

  • radnom

    Depends why he wants to pitch one more season.

    I don’t think he really has anything left to prove/accomplish that is driving him to come back. I’m sure he would like to win but the Rangers are as likely as any team to make the playoffs and from there everyones got a shot.

    I could see Texas making a lot of sense for Andy if his only reasons for coming back are a desire to keep playing and some extra cash. This could be a nice transition to retirement.

  • J.R.

    While fairly transparent, I think that this is a smart negotiating tactic.

  • Stratman9652
    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      They’re terrified of my 4’11” blonde wrath.

      • mbonzo

        I’d rather fight Cortland Innegan.

    • Kit

      Smart move, Rangers. Bex will fight you.

  • JeffG

    I think it would be important for the Yanks to wrap up Lee first. I have the feeling the draw of finishing on top as a Yankee would be Andy’s priority. If we get Lee then I don’t see him going to fight for the AL West with no guarantee of getting further than he did this year.

    • Ultimate Yankee Warrior (James)

      Thankfully, with everything else going on, Pettitte seems to be in no rush.

  • bonestock94

    Congratulate your enemy!? If Pettitte had any killer instinct he would have sent him a bag of flaming shit.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Not sure if serious.

  • rek4gehrig

    NOLAN, keep your gruby hands off Andy. He’s ours (I mean Bex’s)