Nov
02

Hal talks playoffs, Jeter, payroll, plans

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Hal Steinbrenner has vowed to make the 2011 Yankees a World Series-caliber team. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

Hal Steinbrenner, the Yankees’ Managing General Partner and co-chairman, took to the airwaves this afternoon and spent around 20 minutes chatting with Michael Kay and then Mike Francesa on New York’s two sports talk radio stations. While keeping the Yanks’ offseason plans close to the vest, Steinbrenner let slip a few choice words on the playoff scheduling, Chuck Greenberg’s recent comments, the clubs’ payroll and the Yanks’ willingness to dip into the free agency pool.

We’ll start with the sexy stuff. Hal opened both interviews with his assessment of the team’s performance in the playoffs. Both times, he blamed the days off in between the end of the ALDS and the start of the ALCS. “We seemed a little bit cold in that series,” Hal said of the ALCS. “I don’t know if it was the long layoff or not.” I’ll have more on the playoff format and the unnecessary days off later tonight, but the Yanks never seemed to click during the ALCS. Having to stop play for six days probably didn’t help.

As a side note, Hal also called the 2010 season “very disappointing.” I don’t find myself too disappointed by a six-game ALCS series even though the Yanks lost. Counting the playoffs, they won 101 games this year, tops among AL teams and just one fewer than the World Series champion Giants. It was disappointing to see them go down against Texas, but this was a fun season.

The Yanks’ co-owner shifted gears after that to talk about Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera. “We absolutely want [Jeter] back. We absolutely want Mo back,” he said. Having said that, we’re running a business.” In fact, that’s a point Hal stressed in both radio appearances. The Yanks are a business and with Derek, the Steinbrenners want “a deal both sides are happy with.”

Hal seemed less nostalgic and sympathetic to the idea that Jeter deserves a huge contract than either Kay or Francesa wanted him to be. While noting that Derek is one of the all-time Yankee greats, he warned Kay, “There’s always the possibility that things could get messy.” To Francesa, he elaborated, “I want to get a deal done that he’s happy with but also that I’m happy with.”

In addition to resigning their own players, the Yankees will be active in the free agent market. Without naming specifics, Hal committed to spending the organization’s money. “We are looking at the free agent market as we do every year,” he said. “We certainly have money to spend and we’re going to look into it.” The team’s payroll, Hal said, will likely be on par with 2010′s though. So we shouldn’t expect too many big-ticket purchases if the team adheres to that budget.

Steinbrenner also stressed the team’s strategy. The use the free agent market to complement their youth movement, but they’re always going to spend money. “The fans need to know we’re not putting money in our pockets left and right,” he said. “We put most or all of it back into” the team. He also mentioned that the Legends Suites were sold at rates above 90 percent this year and that the franchise may adjust some ticket prices for 2011.

Finally, Hal talked about Chuck Greenberg’s comments. The Rangers CEO accused Yankee fans of being both violent and apathetic, and the Bombers were prepared to retaliate. These were “inappropriate, ridiculous comments,” Hal said. While the club accepted Greenberg’s apology, Hal was fairly merciless. “Stupid comments…they were inappropriate, “he said. “You need to apologize to our fans.”

At the end of both interviews, Hal said it was there intentions to build up the 2011 Yankees a “World Series-type team.” Whether it be via trade, free agency or both, the Yanks have a busy Hot Stove League ahead of them.

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  • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    Hal is awesome.

    • Moshe Mandel

      Where is your proof?????

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      I’m gonna need 17 points of reference for this. And try and keep your jockstrap on while you do it, okay?

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        Bah, Moshe beat me to it by a little bit. :(

      • ZZ

        I don’t see understand people are taking such offense to posters asking dr mrs yankee to back up her point. The archives on this site are filled with posters calling out others for whining about things the Yankees, Girardi, etc. did.

        What am I missing here?

        • rbizzler

          Off-Topic.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

          She did back her point up – she doesn’t like toolsy players, of which Mesa is one.

          • ZZ

            Huh?

            Mesa is toolsy, so without examining the situation at all, the Yankees should just let him go simply because he is toolsy?

            That’s just silly.

            • rbizzler

              Still Off-Topic.

              • ZZ

                Hal spoke about building a WS type team in 2011. Mesa as part of the 40 man roster was a step today towards building that team. Hal would approve, therefore on topic.

                • rbizzler

                  That is very much a stretch, kind sir.

                  I was hoping we could leave any Melky Mesa talk in the rear view and instead discuss more exciting things like what people predictions for next years opening day payroll will be.

                  I am going with an even 230.

                • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

                  Let it go. It’s off-topic, and Joe, Mike and I are growing tired of this petty bickering. Time to move on.

                  • ZZ

                    It was a joke Big Ben. Rough crowd in here today.

  • ZZ

    I’ll say it again. Jeter is not getting $20 million, he is getting his salary cut, and Yankee fans will be surprised at the final terms.

    • radnom

      I’ve been feeling the same for a while. I feel like everyone else is taking crazy pills thinking they know exactly what is going to happen.

      • Dirt

        Blue Steel? Ferrari? Le Tigra? They’re the same face! Doesn’t anybody notice this? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! I invented the piano key necktie, I invented it! What have you done, Derek? You’ve done nothing! NOTHIIIING!

    • tomaconda

      Ive been saying that all along. 2 years 30 mil is my guess.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        I will JIMP if that happens.

        There are two devils in this negotiation: Length and Money. I’d much rather succumb to Money than Length.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Agreed.

          Here’s what I’d give him:

          1/$20
          2/$30
          3/$36

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            Let’s go sacrifice a few goats/chickens/people in hopes that the Baseball Gods employ their muses to get it in Jeter’s head to accept a 1/$20M and then ride off into the blazing copper sunset after ’11.

            • ZZ

              And then usher in the Nunez Era!

              • ZZ

                The NunEra.

                • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                  The Nunmenium!

                  • RL

                    I highly doubt Nunez in ’12 would be an upgrade over Jeter in ’12. I suspect he’ll bounce back to some extent in ’11 and still have enough left over for a decent ’12. Would that be better than what they can get out of Nunez when you factor in cost? I don;t know, but I suspect the Yankees will try to come to an agreement with Jeter that allows them to come up with a solid replacement for Jeter, which may or may not be Nunez.

                    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                      I’m hoping it doesn’t come to Nunez; I don’t have much faith in him becoming more than a replacement level SS.

                    • OldYanksFan

                      I disagree. While 2012 Jeter might outhit Nunez, the difference in D will be great. Jete’s range is already small, and at his age, in 2 years, his range might be scary bad.

                      While Nunez is not near the hitter Cano is, he’s similar in his first year in that he suffered a bit from lack of patience and pitch selection (only 3 BBs with 50 BA), while however showing a decent swing and contact ability (only 2Ks with 50 BA). If he can improve on patience/selection, he looks like he could easily be a .700 OPS guy or better.

                      Over the last 3 years, Derek averaged a (via BR) 3.5 WAR. I will very optimistically say he can aveage a 3 WAR over the next 3 years. That, to my mind, makes him worth, at max, $13.5m/yr. I don’t think he gets even that as a FA on today’s market.

                      So at 3/$45m, he is getting a $5m – $10m “HE’S DEREK FUCKIN’ JETER” premium.

                      You can reward him by giving him season ticket’s for life, or a shot at managing, or a buy-in in ownership, or any other perk you like, but throwing money he’s not worth, to a guy who has already made over $200m, seems silly.

              • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                That could actually happen if Jeter were to retire after ’11. The FA SS crop that year is just ugly.

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            Would you be willing to go 2/$35?

            • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

              If Hal’s as serious about “running the team as a business” as he says he is, 2/$35 is too high. We’ll see though. It’s not out of the realm of possibilities.

              • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

                I don’t love it either, but I think it’s an okay middle ground for a balanced length/money deal. It’s more than I’d like to give, but it’s still short enough of #20M that I’m relatively comfortable.

                • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

                  I’d probably do 2/$35 but still hate the idea of paying him $10-$15 million more than the market would likely bear.

              • CP

                Per fangraphs, he’s been worth $42M over the last 2 years, so 2/$35M wouldn’t be ridiculous. It comes down to whether you believe 2010 is just a bad year for Jeter and he will rebound (at least somewhat) over the next few years, or whether you feel 2010 is a sign of what’s to come.

                I tend to fall in the first group, because players generally don’t fall off a cliff from one year to the next like Jeter has simply because of age.

                • OldYanksFan

                  Those numbers are skewed a bit by a career year in 2009. In 2010, he was worth $10m, and in the previous 2 years (07 and 08), his average worth was $15.4m.

                  So, in his next 3 years (age 37-39), do you believe he will be as good as he was in 07-08 (age 33-34)?

                  And shouldn’t we even be talking about what his REAL value is…. meaning what he would get an a FA if he didn’t sign with the Yanks?

        • Yank the Frank

          That’s what she said.

    • Moshe Mandel

      What are you basing this on? I think they are much more likely to stay firm on the number of years while giving into him a bit on AAV. Why do you think he gets below 20M?

      • tomaconda

        Because based on last years play he would probably get less than 10 mil per year on the open market.

  • pat

    Yankee fans are the debil.

    http://tinyurl.com/2g7x3nz

  • larryf

    But no discussion of the 2 big weddings of the off season? The future Minka Jeter and Jodi Kay must have been very disappointed.

  • http://twitter.com/simmonsclass Sam

    While I agree that ponytails are very nice hair style, I think Yankee fans will freak the hell out if a Jeter deal isn’t done by mid-December.

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime-Mrs. OBP Jesus Maquinito

      While I think ponytails are a lazy hairstyle when you don’t want to dry your hair, I think Yankee fans should worry more about how the rotation shakes out than whether or not Jeter signs a deal before the start of Chanukah.

      • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

        I don’t think Yankee fans should “worry” if he doesn’t sign before the first week in December. That’s an arbitrarily early date. They’re not going to sign another short stop in the meantime.

        • http://twitter.com/simmonsclass Sam

          I obviously don’t think they should, just that people will. Clearly, they should sign Renteria or Uribe, they’re proven postseason performers.

          • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

            Joe Morgan told me that Renteria has always been clutch.

            • FIPster Doofus

              Edgar Renteria and Bengie Molina are two clutch hitters whom you would never want to face in a big situation.

              Regards,

              Baseball announcers

              • http://twitter.com/simmonsclass Sam

                Everyone knows you walk Renteria in that situation. That’s why everyone was saying it before the at bat started.

          • FIPster Doofus

            Don’t make me start banging the Uribe drum again. He was a combined 6.0 fWAR player the last two years with plus defense and a league-average bat. Not bad for someone who made $3.25 million in 2010.

            • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

              He’ll want more. Besides, in NY he’d be relegated to the bench – which would be great, but expensive.

              • FIPster Doofus

                My plan includes bringing Uribe in to start if all hell breaks loose with the Jeter negotations. Otherwise, no Uribe. He’s easily good enough to get a starting job somewhere; hence, he wouldn’t come to the Yankees in a bench role.

                • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

                  That.

            • rbizzler

              Honestly, one of the things that Sabean/Bochy has done right (along with drafting Cain/Lincecum/MadBum/Posey) is making Uribe a super-util guy. Decent glove and decent pop from the left-hand side of the IF is not a bad option to have off of the bench.

        • rbizzler

          But, WS hero Edgar Renteria is now a free agent and if the Yanks don’t get him signed right away someone else will snatch up that championship pedigree.

          On a serious note, I agree that there should be no timetable for talk between the org and Jeet. I really can’t see any other team stepping up and making him any sort of competitive offer.

    • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

      I feel as though I’ve missed some …interesting conversation today.

      • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

        Nice ponytails.

        • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

          I was too lazy to dry my hair today.

      • rbizzler

        Meh, you didn’t miss much. Just some arguing over the value of Melky Mesa being added to the 40-man with a little sexism/anger mixed in.

        • BigDavey88

          I get a kick out of this whole thing was started over Melky Mesa.

          Yeesh.

  • tomaconda

    Im sure little Stein will be willing to raise his payroll for 1 year to make a big splash with the Idea that next year will be Pettittes last.

  • The Three Amigos

    Too bad Hal did not take full reigns until after that Arod contract. Alex is amazing, but there was no reason to go to ten years. Eight would have been plenty.

    • OldYanksFan

      I agree 10 years was nuts, but he might need 9 to break Bonds’ record, and then 1 extra year to bask in the glory.

  • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

    Jeter 3/60
    Mo 2/30

    #ReallyGoingOutOnALimbHere

    • OldYanksFan

      /thenCliffLeeain’tonthatlimb

  • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

    Hal seems to have mastered the art of speaking and not saying much.

    Take lessons, Hank.

    • bronxbrain

      stealth >>> bluster

    • CP

      I’m happy with Hank not speaking and not saying much. It’s a much easier skill to master.

  • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

    The Jeter contract negotiations will be a question of whether he gets 10 mil or 20 mil. Either way, he’s on the team for at least next year (and almost certainly the year after that).

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    If they give Jeter a four year contract (ugh), would you guys prefer it to be front loaded like A-Rod’s deal is? I’d be totally cool with that.

    • rbizzler

      Yikes, I guess so. Either way, I would like to see Jeet’s extension be for 3 years max. Yes, I know that 3 years is a pipe dream.http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....50#respond

      • RL

        3 years seems about right. If he’s strong all 3, they can talk about a 4th at that time. Gives them plenty of time to find a replacement.

  • Corporate Scum (formerly Joe West’s Music Career)

    Hal = Michael.

    Hank = Fredo.

    My advice to Hank? Don’t go fishing.

    • candyforstalin

      no, no, no.

      hank = sonny.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      We’ve already established that Hank is Santino.

      http://riveraveblues.com/2009/.....ent-590934

      • candyforstalin

        i laughed at the last one.

      • Corporate Scum (formerly Joe West’s Music Career)

        That is genius.

        Couple quibbles tho:

        Levine and Hank should be switched. There is no convincing me otherwise.

        Santino: Acerbic, brash, curly haired.

        Fredo: Completely incompetent elder brother.

        Also, your casting of Johnny Fontaine is an abomination.

        And while I LOVE the casting of Pavano as Appolonia, I’d argue that in terms of constitution, he more resembles Connie. (Clearly not a central figure though.)

        Also, you seem to be missing a Tessio. May I perhaps suggest, John Sterling?

  • Frank

    3/36 sounds fair for both sides. And Nunez will never be the long term solution at short. Once it’s time for DJ to move off of short, they will sign or trade for someone…tulowitzki maybe in 2 years.

  • candyforstalin

    2/30m for rivera and 2/40m for jeter and i’d be over the moon.

  • OldYanksFan

    I gotta say yuz guyz is very generous with the Steinbrenner’s money.
    NoMass says:
    If we had $230m to burn, the Yankees would win 194 games a year.

  • Kiko Jones

    My humble prediction: Jeter and Mo each getting 2/$30m.

  • Tank Foster

    I think Jeter will want 4 years. I think that will matter more to him than the salary per.