Nov
02

Harkey gets ‘serious consideration’ for pitching coach spot

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Via Sweeny Murti, bullpen coach Mike Harkey is being given “serious consideration” for the team’s vacant pitching coach position. He’s served as the Yankees’ bullpen coach since 2008, and although he has no full-time experience as a pitching coach in the big leagues (remember he did fill in for a month while Dave Eiland was on personal leave in June), he’s done it at the Triple-A level. Harkey’s familiarity with the staff certainly works in his favor.

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  • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    If he doesn’t get the pitching coach job, he’s still likely to stick around right? If so, I wouldn’t hire him as pitching coach. I’d rather have Pitching Coach + Harkey as bullpen coach than just Harkey as pitching coach (and obviously a new bullpen coach).

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      Mo will pull double duty!

    • A.D.

      I agree with this, would prefer to bring in a veteran pitching coach over Harkey to still have Harkey there, but at the same time I’m Harkey is up for the Yanks job, he may very well be up for other jobs and not be staying.

  • BINNER

    NO! Everyone was screaming for Eiland to come back during that month… he did NOTHING….bullpen coach, fine….not a pitching coach…

    • GermanYankee

      this.

  • Frank

    Uh….burnett fell apart during that month. Sure this is a good idea?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Correlation ≠ causation

    • CaptialT

      +1,

      Completely agree. He had his chance and coincidence (small sample) or not, the results were ugly. I remember the team was just waiting for Eiland because he was the hope that Carol could be fixed.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Josh Beckett fell apart and John Farrell got a managing position as a reward. A pitching coach can only do so much. Whatever happened with AJ this year is 100% on AJ.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        AJ Burnett is what he is. I doubt any pitching coach has likely ever accomplished anything to make him any better or any worse. He’s just a two-pitch pitcher incapable of doing anything to keep those pitches working consistently.

        I wouldn’t ever judge the success or failure of my pitching coach on Burnett’s efficacy.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          He is who we thought he was. And that’s why we took the damn field!!

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            I sets ‘em up, you knocks ‘em down.

        • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

          If anyone could fix AJ Burnett, he’d be worth his weight in gold.

          • Jonathan

            I’m not sure he’s fixable, but if Dave Duncan can make Jeff Weaver decent….who knows.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              (goes back to double check the historical record)
              (confirms that Jeff Weaver was never “decent” after 2002, not even in St. Louis where he had an ERA+ of 86)
              (continues not giving Dave Duncan any credit for Jeff Weaver for anything)

            • http://www.teamnerdrage.com dr mrs the yankee

              Weaver had a good/excellent month, and that month happened to be October.

              I do think Dave Duncan is very good but he is not a miracle worker.

        • ZZ

          A new pitching coach may be more committed and determined to change AJ’s mechanics and make big changes with him. I wouldn’t put a lot of emphasis on AJ’s success or failures, but at the same time I would be critical of a pitching coach who lets AJ continue do the same path and doing the same exact things.

          If I was the Yankees, I would be very open to a pitching coach who came into the interview room with an offseason plan to work with AJ to try to find some consistency in his mechanics and is determined to get AJ to use his two seam fastball and changeup more often.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            I wouldn’t put a lot of emphasis on AJ’s success or failures, but at the same time I would be critical of a pitching coach who lets AJ continue do the same path and doing the same exact things.

            I doubt Eiland or Harkey or any of his predecessors “let AJ continue the same path… doing the exact same things”. They all most assuredly tried stuff; none of it worked.

            • ZZ

              I don’t know. What has changed with AJ in his career?

              I am sure they have made minor adjustments between starts, but has a pitching coach ever really challenged him to make substantial changes?

              In the past that may be understandable, because AJ was at least effective. Now, after the season he just had, if the pitching coach just came in and made no changes with AJ that is a different story.

              • http://twitter.com/iiKeane JobaWockeeZ

                Let’s make this easier and give a billion dollars to the pitching coach who helped AJ in 2007 or 2008.

                Or maybe let him power pitch his way through this even if it increases his chance of injury…

          • http://www.teamnerdrage.com dr mrs the yankee

            I actually think most pitching coaches would make, at most, minor changes to a guy like AJ’s mechanics. You’re not going to find many people who would just go in there and switch everything up for someone who has been pitching as long as AJ.

            The time to do a complete overhaul was 10 years ago, or maybe when he was rehabbing from Tommy John.

  • CBean

    No, thank you.

  • The Three Amigos

    I like Gil Patterson a lot and hope he wins the gig.

    • Yankeefan91 Arod Fan

      agreed

  • nathan

    I wouldnt evaluate his case based on AJ’s record that month, then we would have to include CC’s record that month too. But, maybe its not such a bad time to find someone from outside, maybe he helps out Joba to be more consistent.

  • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

    I’m not so concerned with Burnett as I am with the pitching staff as a whole seemingly not performing up to expectations, especially the young guys. Maybe it’s because I’m Yankee-centric and all of these teams have these problems, it just seems we’re constantly stuck with only 3 somewhat reliable starters.

  • fred

    There is no way you have a guy like Brunett that is owed $50M and you promote a guy that could not help figure him or Vasquez out last year nor help Joba gain consistancy.

    There may not be a better human being and teacher than Gil Patterson and it would be sad if he does not get the job for someone with not even a 10th of the knowledge that he has.

    Read all about the tough life that Gil Patterson had and how this guy survived and you would root for him in a heartbeat. He was even willing to get fired from the Yankees in 1984 for refusing to let Al Leiter pitch in a minor league game because he had a sore arm.

    Al knows a lot about pitching and he said “there is no one in the game that is more qualified than Gil Patterson.”

    Please don’t make the mistake of giving Harkey the job.

    • http://www.teamnerdrage.com dr mrs the yankee

      I have no real opinion about Eiland or Harkey but I am not really sure any pitching coach could fix AJ (the problems he had all year are ones he’s had his entire career, the good version just showed up much less often) or Vazquez (he lost a ton of speed on his FB, that’s not something you can necessarily just magically make work).

      Plus, if you’re only talking about Harkey I think that’s an even smaller impact. He was filling in for just about a month! And it was Javy’s best month all year, by far so that argument kinda falls apart.

      I don’t think a pro Patterson argument needs to have a slam against Harkey in it, really.

  • dan

    you have 80 plus million tied up with a guy whose head is up his a…….ss.you think u need to find someone to fix him???????????

  • dave

    I think Harkey has done a great job, just ask the pitching staff. There isn’t anyone out there with more experience. He’s “Yankee Family “