Dec
06

Cashman confirms that Pettitte is leaning towards retirement

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Bob Klapisch drops a December bombshell. The Yankees, he says, “heard from friend of Pettitte’s that he’s [definitely] retiring.” The club received this news three weeks ago, and they are officially “still waiting on his decision.” We’ve heard numerous conflicting reports on Pettitte this winter. Just a few weeks ago, Ken Davidoff said the lefty was “leaning toward” a 2011 swan song, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Pettitte hangs it up this year. Either way, Cliff Lee stands to benefit, but don’t jump off that bridge until we hear it from the mouth of number 46 himself.

Update (3:26 p.m.): NBC Sports’ Craig Calcaterra chimes in with an opposite view. He says, “Source close to Pettitte tells me that while you never know with Pettitte, the expectation is that he’s coming back.” All we know is that we don’t know anything yet.

Update by Mike (5:40pm): Brian Cashman told reporters this afternoon that last he heard, Pettitte is leaning towards retirement. Apparently Andy first mentioned it to the GM after the season, which is the first time he’s done that.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League
  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

    Andy noooooo :( :( :( :( :(

    (If I wasn’t too busy panicking I’d think it’s funny how we have two sources that say exactly different things. But I’m panicking and sobbing everywhere.)

    • CBean

      This was my reaction exactly.

    • Erica

      BEXY. What are we going to do? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

        I DON’T KNOW.

        (cries forever)

        • Erica

          I may go eat my feelings. This is not allowed, in any capacity, to be confirmed as true.

    • Ed

      Actually, they all fit together perfectly.

      Supposedly he was definitely retiring 3 weeks ago. That’s around when he made the “my heart is in Deer Park” comment. The story that he was leaning toward returning came up 2 weeks ago.

  • http://twitter.com/AndrewLeighNYC Andrew

    Wouldn’t be shocking news, but I am going to hold off on being bummed until it’s a little more concrete than hearing from a friend of Pettitte’s (Berkman is my guess) who probably doesn’t know for sure, and said it 3 weeks ago.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      I enjoy the meme of Lance Berkman’s being the only friend of Pettitte’s who talks to the media.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        He’s his only friend period.

      • http://twitter.com/AndrewLeighNYC Andrew

        Berkman just loves talking about Andy Pettitte, it’s his favorite conversational subject. He has all his press clippings, posters, baseball cards, game-used jerseys from both HOU and NYY. And I heard that from a friend of Lance Berkman, although it was told to me 3 weeks ago.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Lance Berkman, when asked about his wife and kids, always, without fail, turns the conversation towards his good friend Andy Pettitte.

  • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

    ::twitter feed explodes::

  • Mark

    Ivan Nova, here he comes…. (sad face)

    • Reggie C.

      I’d rather Cashman trade for IAN KENNEDY. I’m sure the kid’s grown up.

  • Joey C

    If Pettitte retires and Lee goes else where we are in trouble.Sabathia,Burnett and Hughes and a guessing game,we will finish 3rd in the division,maybe it could be worse.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      Take comfort in the fact that Shawn Marcum was traded for Brett Lawrie. Pitching isn’t as expensive as we think it can be.

    • AndrewYF

      It’s still a better rotation than what they put out there in 2006.

      And honestly, for a good part of 2010 it was Sabathia/Hughes/Burnett/whatever.

      Getting Lee isn’t technically a necessity, it just puts them over the top.

      • http://bronxbombersreport.com Craig

        No, Lee is as close to a necessity as it gets for the Yankees – with or without Pettitte.

    • http://twitter.com/AndrewLeighNYC Andrew

      So what you’re saying is, doom is upon us? I am already panicking.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      dooooooooooooooomed

    • ROBTEN

      Oh Noes! (SFW)

  • theyankeewarrior

    Bright side:

    If Andy retires, that’s 12 more million to sign Crawford AND Lee with

    • CBean

      Crawford’s going to be a terrible 5th starter.

      • ROBTEN

        I think the plan is to put Crawford in right and Swisher in the rotation.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Best ERA in baseball history.

        • wow

          You’re so off. It’s clearly Crawford right, Swisher first, and Texeira in the rotation.

          Duh.

          • Thomas

            No, it is Crawford to left, Gardner to center, Granderson to right, Swisher to first, Teixeira to third, A-Rod to SS, Jeter to left, and Crawford to the rotation.

            • OldYanksFan

              That’s just REALLY STUPID! Jeter can’t play LF!

              • ChrisR

                You are all wrong, Grandy in the rotation, HE IS A SWITCH-PITCHER!

            • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

              So who’s playing short left, Jeter or Crawford?

      • theyankeewarrior

        If we got Crawford and Lee, I would be just fine with Nova as a 5th starter.

  • Shaun

    And I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend of the friend of Andy Pettite that he is going to open a TexMex resturant with longtime yankee teammate and friend Derek Jeter called “Derek & Andy’s Taco Hole”

    • Shaun

      seriously let’s wait and see, if the worst happens it might be time that we give Noesi/Brackman/Betances/Nova a shot at the rotation.

  • pat

    OO dass not good.

  • Reggie C.

    Time to trade for Grei … (stops. BREATHES.)

    If Cashman and co. have had this news for some while now, I’m sure a game plan is place to address the open rotation slot. Now is not a time for the organization to panic and trade away its best hitting prospect since DJ for an ace who may not even want to play here.

  • Nolan

    PUT JOBA BACK IN THE ROTATION!!!!! Spend andy’s 12 million on the bullpen!

    • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

      Spend andy’s 12 million on the bullpen!

      Um, no thanks.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      PUT JOBA BACK IN THE ROTATION!!!!!

      Yes!

      Spend andy’s 12 million on the bullpen!

      Noooooooooooooooooo!

      • Shaun

        What has Joba done, to warrant a return to the rotation…not a damn thing. If he can’t be trusted to handle mop up work, he can’t be trusted to be a starter. He has proven time and time again that he is a head case, we already know what happens when we have 2 headcases in the rotation (Burnett, Javi) I’m not up to seeing a sequel.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          He has proven time and time again that he is a head case,

          This was the moment I stopped reading and totally disregarded anything you have to say.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      I’d like to see it happen but there is no way they would do it

  • ROBTEN

    CC wants to play in California…
    Teixeira hates New York…
    Lee would return to Texas for six years…
    Pettitte is going to retire…

    To be honest, I think this is just another negotiating tactic than anything serious. Unless he’s helping the Yankees negotiate with Lee, there’s no reason then not to just announce your retirement if this is serious. So, I still think he signs for one more year.

    [Although, I guess it would mean the sell-the-farm-for-Greinke advocates might get their wish.]

    • radnom

      Does Pettitte really need to pull this to get upside in a negotiation? If he comes back its going to be for roughly the same amount he made last year, regardless.

      This is just the media running with every little rumor in the absence of any other newsworthy story in NYY baseball right now. I’d bet Pettitte hasn’t even made up his mind yet, and he deserves to get some time off to weigh it over. Coming back for another season is not a decision to make lightly.

      • ROBTEN

        True, but it could all be from the Hendricks brothers and not Andy directly. Outside of Lee there’s not a big FA market this year, the Yankees have not signed Lee (yet), and they have played hardball with the contracts of some of their veterans. Given that he’s already said that he won’t play for another team, retirement is his only leverage. It could simply be a subtle way of announcing that he’s not going to do charity work for the Yankees by returning for less (or equal to) what he made last year. I’m sure he’d still like a raise, even if it is a small one.

        • putt

          That.

        • The Big City of Dreams

          Yep that’s probably what it is especially with Sweeny Murti reporting earlier in the day that Andy may have to take less money if he waits too long

      • Ed

        Does Pettitte really need to pull this to get upside in a negotiation? If he comes back its going to be for roughly the same amount he made last year, regardless.

        I don’t think that’s it. Pettitte has always been way too honest about his feelings. Every year he says “Yankees or retirement”, which kills his leverage. If he wanted leverage, he’d just say he was considering other teams. Especially when the Texas rumor popped up, as that would’ve been very believable.

        • radnom

          I’m not sure if you realized, but we are actually in complete agreement here. It doesn’t make sense as a negotiating ploy.

          • Ed

            Oops :)

            I read your comment too quickly and misinterpreted it. Sorry about that.

  • Louis

    I take back what I said in when I posted in te other thread- it’s the end of th world if we don’t sign lee.

  • Gary

    Well, if this is true, all the more reason to sign Lee.

  • Poopy Pants

    I hope he doesn’t start sending pics of a small penis to a sideline reporter, then sign with the Vikings.

    • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

      Me too, Poopy Pants. Me too.

  • thurdonpaul

    hey, im a lefty, ill pitch for one million :)

  • John NY

    I’m sure he wants as much $$$ as he can get by dangling his retirement. Question is, how much do the Yanks want to give him to forget about retiring this year?

  • Monteroisdinero

    meh-Andy is just one delivery/drag bunt away from 2 months on the DL with a groin injury. Oh, that already happened.

    Crawford/Lee and one of the B’s and we’ll be fine.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      You really think Brackman, Betances, or Banuelos is ready to start at the ML level? No you don’t.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        And just because you keep saying the Yankees should get Crawford doesn’t mean it makes sense. There’s no room and he isn’t a need right now.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

        He’s still mad we’re not starting Nunez next year

        Seriously, if your reaction to Andy retiring is “meh” and you’re a Yankee fan – (cuts self off so as to not be banned)

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          My reaction isn’t “meh” but it’s definitely not panic. There are moves that can be made.

        • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

          I said meh too.

          And unless and until we get something a little more solid than this, I will continue to do so.

  • Matt DiBari

    I fear what the Yankee response to this will be. There’s still a lot of crappy pitching out the make a panic move with

  • Monteroisdinero

    That “friend” has been promised 100K for his efforts by the Pettittes.

    • Bulldozer

      And 200k by Cliff Lee.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    I sure wish they’d made that Dan Haren trade…

  • Hughesus Christo

    RELEASE THE JOBA

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD

      Hughesus Christo and I agree on something!

      • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

        I totally agree too.

        Unfortunately I think the odds of this happening are somewhere between none and none.

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          #realitycheck

        • The Big City of Dreams

          yea its definitely right around there lol

      • Jon in CUO

        He literally means release Joba. As in, DFA.

        • Shaun

          no no we can at least get a bag of balls for him

  • http://twitter.com/joero23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

    “All we know is that we don’t know anything yet.”

    Only time will tell.

    (And you were thisclose to an OpIvy reference.)

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      There are known knowns and known unknowns.

    • radnom


      (And you were thisclose to an OpIvy reference.)

      +1

    • Poopy Pants

      AND the MORE you know, you realize you actually know LESS.

  • bonestock94

    2 “please be fakes” in 24 hours, wow

  • theyankeewarrior

    UPDATE (3:34 p.m.): According to Bob Kapisch, Andy Pettitte has a lot of friends. Some believe in universal health care, some don’t.

  • steve s

    If the report is true then good for Andy. Retiring with 100+ wins over losses is the best stat he has going for him to get into the HOF.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      If the report is true then good for Andy. Retiring with 100+ wins over losses is the best only stat he has going for him to get into the HOF.

      I agree.

      • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

        It angers me that he might have less trouble than Moose.

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          Again, I agree.

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

            3rd’ed. Moose is obviously a better pitched but does have that whole PED thing hanging over him. Wait, what?

            • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

              Meh. HGH =/= Primobolan

              • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

                In the eyes of many voters HGH is a big deal. The fact that Moose was a better pitcher and there is no proof or speculation of any PED usage whatsoever makes the fact that people think Pettitte is a HOF and Moose is not is mind-bottling. If all other things were equal, the guy with the PED history, even if HGH, would have a worse chance at the Hall. In this case, things aren’t equal, Moose is unquestionably better.

                • Zach

                  Yes it was. I felt so bad for Moose that he couldn’t win a World Series Ring in at least one of the games he pitched. And was sadly around for some of the worst Yankee Years other than the 80′s.

  • ROBTEN

    Just put Andy in a box, that way he can be retired and un-retired simultaneously.

    /Schrödinger’d

    • OldYanksFan

      NO ONE puts Andy in a corner!

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        THATS IT!

        Andy wants to be on DWTS…

    • Betty Lizard

      ietcvm

      (Thinking of quantum Andy gives me . . . pleasure.)

  • http://twitter.com/joero23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

    I mentioned this on twitter, but the Klapisch rumor was clearly false, on its face. The use of the word “definite” is what killed it. If this was “definite,” three weeks ago, the Yankees would have official word by now, and so would the public. The 3 week interlude is proof enough that the decision, if any has been made, is not “definite.” Even if he’s leaning towards retirement (not saying he is, just a hypothetical), if it was definite the 3 week interlude wouldn’t have occurred. Much ado about nothing. Well… Maybe “Little” ado about nothing is more accurate, not like this is a huge story. But in any event… Nothing to get too worked up over, in my opinion.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Agreed. In 2010 there is nothing “definite” that would stay quiet for 3 weeks.

  • All Star Carl

    Andy Favre.

  • Big Stein

    Trade Cano and Jesus for Casey Kelly!!

    • ROBTEN

      Too much; he’s a washed up has-been now.

  • OldYanksFan

    No Andy?
    So long Montero… we hardly knew ye.

    • http://bronxbombersreport.com Craig

      False.

  • http://www.twitter.com/deanezag Zack

    I’m pretty sure I saw this article in 2009, and 2008, and 2007.

    /believe it when i see it

  • Joey C

    Can you believe we are all hoping a 40 yr old pitcher comes back,wow how bad do we need pitching.This team is getting older by the minute.What do we do next year when CC opts out oh my.

    A little off the subject but i guess money is more important than the team you play with.126 million reasons to play for the Nationals,what a joke.

    • MikeD

      Okay, so the team gets older is Andy comes back, or it gets younger with Nova in the rotation. I vote older.

      • http://www.twitter.com/deanezag Zack

        Agreed. You don’t get younger just for the sake of getting younger- you get younger if it makes you better.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      What do we do next year when CC opts out oh my.

      Resign him.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Re-sign even.

    • Shaun

      We need him for one more year that’s it, after that several of the arms in the system will be ready and we don’t have to sell off the farm.

    • putt

      Aren’t ALL teams getting older by the minute?

  • MikeD

    The friend of Andy is actually Cliff Lee’s agent, trying to get Lee up to a $30-million-a-year average!

  • vin

    I fully expect Andy to return… however, if he doesn’t then I think this would be the PERFECT time for Joba to return to the rotation. The reliever market is much more fruitful than the starter market.

    That said, I expect Andy to be starting the first week of the season, and Joba to be pitching in the 8th.

    • JFH

      Joba is not going back to the rotation. Period.

      • Chris

        Thanks for clearing that up Joe.

        • pat

          Unfortunately Cashman has made that quite clear.

  • YankeesJunkie

    This latest report is putting me in shock and despair.

  • theyankeewarrior

    If Andy goes, I’d be for signing Crawford and Lee and giving Andy’s spot to Nova rather than signing one of the available arms.

  • http://twitter.com/Carlosological Carlosologist

    So, in the increasingly likely event Andy retires, who gets the fifth starter role? I really don’t wanna see Nova get 20-30 starts next season.

  • Bill R

    Would like to congratulate the Boston Red Sox on winning the American League East…. :(

    • http://twitter.com/Carlosological Carlosologist

      Not sure if serious.

      • Bill R

        I’m not, but it was the first thought i had when I heard of a possible team without Pettitte.

        • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

          Fact: The Yankees won the division all three years Pettitte was in Houston. They have one division title in the four years since he came back.

          They will be fine.

          • http://www.123blawg.blogspot.com LawStudent

            Toronto’s totally got it this year.

            /halfjoking

  • Big Stein

    SIGN PAVANO IMMEDIATELY!

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

    Several people had talked me out of moping for a little while. I am now going back to moping.

    (But doesn’t Andy say he’s leaning toward retirement every year?)

    • No Maas

      That’s what big fat slob Pete Abe just twitted: that it’s a ploy to squeeze dollars out of New York.

    • Chris

      Everyone that does this leans towards retirement right after the season, but after they rest up they start missing it and decide to come back. Maybe this is the year he actually calls it quits, but I won’t believe it until he holds a press conference at the Stadium to announce it.

  • Bill R

    The 12 Million Andy would have gotten better be going to Carl Crawford now!

    • FIPster Doofus

      Makes sense. After all, Carl Crawford is a terrific pitcher.

    • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

      ::thinks::

      No

  • YankeesJunkie

    If Pettitte is leaning towards retirement do you think that the Yankees can trade for a pitcher like Floyd?

  • PANIC

    SIGN BRETT FAVRE!

  • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

    Just say no to Ivan Nova.

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

      this

    • Bulldozer

      Say yes to an Ivan Nova trade.

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        Say yes to minimum returns. I don’t like Nova either and I don’t want him getting a guaranteed starting spot, but he won’t fetch much in a trade; he’d be a throw in at best.

    • Poopy Pants

      I thought everyone here loved Nova b/c he threw a ball at Bautista?

  • http://twitter.com/Carlosological Carlosologist

    I said no close to five months ago.

    • http://twitter.com/Carlosological Carlosologist

      Supposed to be a reply to Kiersten’s post

  • tomaconda

    Bring back teh Javy!

    • Bulldozer

      Brandon Webb and Wang for 2/20M deals each!

      • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

        And Mark Prior!

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          I know you’re kidding, but a flier on Mark Prior would be awesome. There’s still good upside, IMO.

          • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

            Wow, he’s younger than CC.

            • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

              He hasn’t pitched in the Majors since 2006. Holy shit. He did, however, throw one shutout inning in the PCL in 2010.

  • dan

    damnnn a lot of Joe’s responses in the chat were Francesa like. Calm down buddy, we don’t need another arrogant know it all in NY. People are allowed to have their own opinions….

  • FIPster Doofus
  • JerseyDutch

    I’m officially starting a petition to bring back Chad Gaudin.

    Signatories: 1

    • FIPster Doofus

      What are Shawn Chacon and Aaron Small up to these days?

      • Ray the Anti-Handle

        Wasn’t Aaron Small at a Yankees old-timers game a couple of years ago…?

        • Operation Killer B’s

          Yeah he was…never even knew he reitred

    • MikeD

      For heaven’s sake, will someone pick up the phone and call Whitey Ford. Sure, he’s like 80, but you know those crafty lefty types. Timeless!

      And Ron Guidry. He’s a child of 60 or so. A few stretching exercises, a run or two around a track, and I bet he could still throw or 80 or so, probably harder than Jamie Moyer!

  • Lance

    Is there any way to view the comments with the newest comments appearing first?

  • Sean C

    I really hope Andy doesn’t retire. My last game of seeing him pitch at the Stadium was the game where he left after an inning or so that started his two month DL stint last season. Cashman needs to find a way to convince him to come back for just one more year. I’m going to refuse to listen to any rumors until I see a press conference announcing Andy’s retirement or one more season.

  • Reggie C.

    RICKY NOLASCO.

    That’d be the perfect guy to trade for in lieu of this news.

    • Operation Killer B’s

      He or Gavin Floyd would not be bad choices

      • candyforstalin

        floyd is the better choice.

      • Reggie C.

        Neither guy would cost us Montero. It’d likely cost us one of the killa Bs, but most of the blue-chip assets would stay.

  • MikeD

    Too much conflicting info and no direct word from the man himself.

  • SinCityYankee

    What about signing Crawford and then packaging Gardner and Hughes (no one will want Burnett) for a top end starter? Hughes’s arbitration will be about $2.5-3 million and Gardner is at 450k not to mention being at the top of his trade value. Perhaps a lower budget team would be willing to make the deal for the ace of their rotation that they won’t be able to control under contract for much longer?

    • Sean C

      So we’re giving up pitching to get pitching? Hughes and Gardy will not get a top end starter.

      • Will

        And trading Hughes isn’t the answer anyway. That also means the team still needs to find a 5th starter…

  • jramey

    He needs a proper farewell. A five minute standing O after clinching the World Series winner should do.

    Newsflash: We can’t call them the “Core Four” if Andy leaves.

  • tomaconda

    Jimmie Key returns to the Yankees for 2 years with an option!

  • beantownbosoxh8er

    CMW? he can handle NY , maybe not the same pitcher he was but he is a known commodity…..

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      He’s not really a known commodity. He hasn’t pitched regularly since early 2008 when he wasn’t that effective in the first place. All reports indicate that his velocity has been down considerably even as he rehabs. He would be a project for any time and too great a risk to pencil him in at the Major League level.