Matthews: Aceves out for all ’11 (UPDATE: Nope)

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Update by Mike (9:31pm): Matthews backed off the report, saying he may have been misinformed. He’s unsure of Aceves’ status for 2011.

Original Post (8:46pm): Here’s an interesting tidbit from today’s Wallace Matthews chat: When asked why the Yanks have yet to bring back Alfredo Aceves, Matthews said the right-hander is out for all of 2011. Apparently, Aceves’ back injury is “much more serious than [originally] assumed,” and the pitcher will miss “much if not all of 2011.” This is the first we’ve heard of this rumor, and we haven’t yet corroborated the news. Considering, however, that disc injuries often require surgery, this isn’t a very big surprise. Maybe Aceves can come back in 2012, but if not, we’ll always have his 14-1 big league career.

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  • Nostra-Artist

    Any chance Wally Matthews will be out for all of 2011?

  • Steve (different one)

    Yeah, but besides that, why haven’t we signed him yet?!! What is Cashman waiting for?!

    • radnom

      Good one…..

    • J warbler

      Ace broke his collar bone in Mexico. He Aint even signed. He cant pitch until the all Star break atleast.

  • JGS


    Hopefully, El Buitre will return

  • Jerome S.

    It’s comforting to know that this isn’t a “big deal” in on-the-field terms.

  • Reggie C.

    I’m not sure what role Aceves would’ve carved out for himself in the 2011 Yankees. In terms of spot starters, I guess Ace would’ve been preferred over Phelps, Noesi, Brackman, or other AAA starters. Yet, right now i have more faith in Mitre than Ace. Its been that long since Ace took a mound.

    Quite sad news. Ace probably isn’t a Yankee in 2012 when room needs to get made for a Phelps or Noesi.

    • Jeff Levy

      Ace probably would have been the utility bullpen guy if Nova is in the rotation.

      When 2012 rolls around Brackman, Betances, Banuelos and maybe others will all be closer to being ready.

    • radnom

      Quite sad news. Ace probably isn’t a Yankee in 2012 when room needs to get made for a Phelps or Noesi.

      Honestly at this point its doubtful he ever sniffs the majors for any team.

    • whozat

      I’m pretty sure that healthy Aceves would have beat Mitre out for the last rotation spot on the 2011 team. Sadly…that won’t happen :-/

  • Accent Shallow

    Here’s hoping Wally has bad info here.

    I wish Aceves the best.

    • Matt

      matthews is an idiot. from his twitter.

      To all; I may have misinformed re Aceves in today’s chat. Broke collarbone in offseason; don’t know if out for 2011. Sincere apologies

      • Accent Shallow

        Here’s hoping there’s a bank error in my favor — say, $5M?

        • The Big City of Dreams

          Worth a shot lol

  • New Kid

    I’ve always gotten the vibe that he’s doesn’t particularly like the Yankees.
    Then again, he is a reporter.

    • rbizzler

      Yup, Wally is definitely a hater. If you check the tone of ESPNNY compared to the BOS version, it is readily apparent that the WWL hired shit-stirrers on the NY side and cheerleaders for the beantowners.

      • Steve (different one)

        You mean Ian O’Connor doesn’t like anyone else on the New York Jeters?

      • Billion$Bullpen

        All Boston writers are Sox cheerleaders. Oddest dynamic of any reporter/ team relationship I ever saw in any sport. Heard some of the NBA teams with big stars has set up with their beat writers that are kinda like the Sox but they dont trash the players once they leave like they do in Boston (minus the Lebron sitch)

    • bexarama

      I’ve always gotten the vibe that he’s doesn’t particularly like the Yankees.

      What’d give you that idea, the open contempt toward like 85% of people in the Yankees organization?

      • New Kid

        Lol yeah, but the other beat writers aren’t that bad.

  • Steve H

    Wally clearly is not good with answering questions on the spot. His chats are full of fail regularly.

    • MikeD

      Yeah. I only tuned into one of his chats (this was before I realized how bad he is), and he lacked very basic knowledge of baseball, the Yankees ane our competition. Easily one of the weakest “reporters” around.

  • nsalem

    Cashman signed and paid Lieber $555000 for 2003 knowing he would miss the entire year due to TJS, The move as bizarre as it sounded at the time paid off as Lieber was effective in ’04. If I remember correctly the Yankees were not interested in retaining for the 2005 season. I always found it quite odd that Cashman signed a surgery bound pitcher one year but had little interest in resigning him. Instead Cashman signed Jaret Wright to the same 3 year deal that Lieber got from the Phils. The rationale for the move was that Wright was significantly better than Lieber in 2004 and 3 years younger at the time (he still is!!). However they both reverted back to their career form after that
    Lieber a career average pitcher and Wright an oft injured and below average pitcher. The stat that sticks out the most to me is Lieber threw for 464 innings over the length of the contract to Wright’s 213.

    • Steve (different one)

      Right, except that’s not exactly what happened.

      They had an option on Lieber for 2005 that Cashman felt was a little pricey, I think $9M. He wanted to re-sign Lieber for 2 years but for around $7M per. But to do that, he had to decline the option. The Phillies then swooped in and offered 3 years. Meanwhile, that winter, the market for mid-rotation starters exploded. Lieber, Clement, Pavano, etc. all got similar deals.

      Cashman freely admitted that he misread the market for Lieber and should have just overpaid for the option.

  • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

    Nice goin’, Wally…ya douche bag.

  • MikeD

    Wallace Matthews is horrible.

  • o

    Matthews is awful… in another chat he called brackman 2 years away and the others b’s making an impact this year. Oh, and think signing soriano makes the yanks WS favs.

  • J warbler

    Ace broke his collar bone falling off a bike. The Yanks cut ties with him after that. They opted to deal with just Marte for rehab relievers. He also has the back issue.

  • Another Bronx Dynasty

    Cashman made a huge mistake by not signing A. Chapman & instead let Cinncinati sign him. With all the holes & questions to the rotation, Cashman’s announced confirmation this week of Joba’s arm injury in 08 that is keeping him in the pen,

    • Steve (different one)

      why don’t we wait until Chapman is actually a starting pitcher before we call it a “huge mistake”?

  • Evan3457

    I don’t believe Wally Matthews is anti-Yankee, in particular.

    He is more of what I’d call a “crapbird”, that is, a reporter who thinks it’s his job to knock everyone and everything off their high horse, because he’s hipper than thou, and never “buys the B.S.”.

    As the Yanks are frequently up high, he takes great pleasure in frequently knocking them, whatever way seems available to him at the moment. This stance worked a lot better when the universe of media outlets that covered local sports seriously was the Times, the Post and the Daily News. Doesn’t work as well now that there are lots and lots of good places to get news and analysis on the Yanks.

    Like, for example, River Ave Blues, he said in his most fawning tone.

  • mike

    damn, hope Aceves can make a comeback, but yeah it doesnt look good for him since he’d probably have to sign a minor league deal and fight his way to a bullpen spot when people like Brackman, Phelps, and Noesi have already established themselves.

    Aceves would have been the perfect 5th starter instead of Mitre