Open Thread: AFC Title Game


Santonio's ready to face the team that traded him for a fifth rounder. (AP Photo/Winslow Townson)

Following last week’s thrilling win over the Patriots, the Jets march into Heinz Field to take on the Steelers. They’ve already beaten Peyton Manning and Tom Brady this postseason, and if they complete the trifecta against Ben Roethlisberger tonight, well then mark your calendars for Gang Green’s Super Bowl date. This game start at 6:30pm ET, hence the slightly early open thread, and can be seen on CBS. Enjoy the game, everyone.


  1. When the Jets win it will be crazy. They have all the momentum (I’m not a believer, but they did it against Manning and Brady. That’s goddamn impressive) on their side.

    • *not a believer in momentum

    • Ivan says:

      No questions. Hey I think the Jets are alot better than people give em credit for. I mean think about it, player for player on both offense and Defense compare to the Pats for example, you can make the arguement the Jets are the better team rite?

      • Kiersten says:

        The Jets have also gotten very lucky this season and have won a few games on last-minute plays. A win is a win, but they didn’t dominate all season like the Pats did (not that that matters now). They beat the Colts last minute and then beat a rusty Patriots team that played its worst game of the season.

        • Ivan says:

          Understandable, however, the Pats weren’t as great as their 14-2 record would indicate. The Pats D wasn’t that good, their offensive weaposn weren’t even all that talented either. I mean the Pats went 14-2 because Tom Brady was super human and almost never turnover the ball.

          I mean im just saying, the Jets certainly had the better D, and on offense, outside of QB, I felt the Jets were better. I mean you would take Branch/Welker over Holmes/Edwards. Not to mention the Jets running game was better too.

        • Dela G says:

          beat a “rusty” patriots team? cmon kiersten, that is a bogus claim. So are you going to tell me that brady was rusty because he didnt play in 2 consecutive weeks? i definitely remember the steelers not playing for 2 weeks and beating the ravens.

          The jets destroyed the patriots, they werent rusty at all

          • Kiersten says:

            They played poorly. Just like a few weeks earlier the Jets played poorly and got killed by the Pats.
            I’m not saying the Jets didn’t deserve to win or anything like that, but you gotta admit the Pats weren’t at the top of their game last week. It happens every year and that’s part of a one-and-out playoff.

  2. NJYankeeFan says:

    J-E-T-S. Jets. Jets. Jets. The boys from New Yawk are here to kill the Steelers and their degenerate QB.

  3. Mantle28 says:


    It got Raymond Felton, God and Mariano Rivera all on the first try :|

    • MikeD says:

      So your second and third games were the same diety?

      I went with two well-known characters, one real, one fake (Howard Stern and Captain Kirk), both which it guessed. On my third try, I went with another well-known, real baseball player, though retired: Bucky Dent. It was not able to guess Dent, although I kept giving it plenty of opportunities. It eventually gave up and asked me for the answer. I’m guessing that will get fed into the computer, making it less likely Bucky Dent will confuse it. Perhaps if someone else tries Dent now, the computer will get it.

    • mbonzo says:

      I did Gehrig and on the 14th or 15th question it started asking Is your character asian? Is your character made of metal? Is your character mechanical? Can your character be driven?

      I thought… perfect, finally beat the computer.

      But Lou Gehrig popped up, wtf?

      • MikeD says:

        Yeah, I got some odd questions like that, too (although not the same ones), even though I had already answered a question (for Dent) that he was a baseball player from the 1970s.

        Is your character metal? How did you answer? He was the Iron Horse!

        • mbonzo says:

          HAH didn’t even think of that.

          • MikeD says:

            Even more odd is the other question, “is he mechanical?” Charlie Gehringer was known as The Mechanical Man. They played in the same period, so maybe there was something to the line of questioning. Gehrig and Gehringer are also similar sounding/looking names, although I doubt that has anything to do with it.

    • Steve H says:

      One of the questions I had was “Has your character ever been in trouble with the law?” I clicked no. Two questions later the answer pops up…..Ray Lewis!?!?

      It was most certainly wrong.

    • Pat D says:

      Took 30 some questions for it to get Dave Winfield. It guessed Rickey Henderson and Reggie Jackson first.

    • Kiersten says:

      These were two consecutive questions:

      “Is your character dark-skinned?”
      “Does your character play basketball?”

  4. Xstar7 says:

    We all already know the Jets are going to win so whats the point in talking about it?

  5. Jerome S. says:

    Just got back from a Model UN conference.

    One of our delegates was at a committee that role-played Europe in the sixteenth century. This morning they received a note saying “Spanish general Marco Sanchez has landed with an army of what he is calling Jets; our German army led by general Roethlisberger will counter them later today”


  6. Xstar7 says:

    Does anyone think the Packers can beat either the Jets or Steelers?

  7. “Yankees GM Brian Cashman would prefer to run a small market team, opines Bill Madden of the New York Daily News, who is beginning to think Cashman may walk away from the Yankees when his contract expires following the 2011 season.” – MLBTR

    Does anyone believe any of this BS?

    • Pat D says:

      Cuz running a small market team will…prove he really is a good GM?

    • Xstar7 says:

      I wouldn’t be surprised if he left after his contract expired, but the stuff about him wanting to be a GM for a small market team is absolute bullshit.

    • Jimmy McNulty says:


    • bexarama says:

      Nope. I never get the people who simultaneously argue Cashman could never ever ever succeed without Steinbrenner dollarz (that’s his right as Yankees GM, any Yankees GM would be totally stupid to not take advantage of the money) and that he’s somehow secretly pining for a small market team and cheaping out on the Yankees every year

    • mike hc says:

      Sure, I would think human nature dictates that at least part of cash wants to prove he can put together a competitive team without having the highest payroll in badeball. Will that be the sole reason he leaves if he does? Doubtful. Probably would have more to do with the contract and/or control over decisions.

    • MikeD says:

      No. Although I do believe that Cashman talks to the media, and one way to begin contract negotiations is for media reports to start surfacing that he might be interested in GMing somewhere else. If the Steinbrenners think all he wants to to do is GM for the Yankees, that will reduce his leverage.

    • Pasqua says:

      The question is: will he be willing to take a small market salary? If so, maybe. But, I’m willing to guess that Cash likes the lifestyle the Yankees have afforded him.

  8. Esteban says:

    Can I haz rush defense?

  9. Dalelama says:

    The Jets are really soft. They look like boys playing men.

  10. Esteban says:

    This is terrible

  11. MikeD says:

    Well this is not going well.

  12. cano is the bro says:

    so this got out of hand pretty quickly for the jets…

  13. Slappy White says:

    Phil Simms’ explaination of that play makes no sense to me. You dont see what you think you see ……WTF?

  14. Jimm McNulty says:

    Will Ian O’Connor stop blowing Mark Sanchez now?

  15. Xstar7 says:

    Holy shit it’s 24-zip. Where’s all that Jets hype now?

  16. bonestock94 says:

    Well, I’m a huge AR fan for the next 2 weeks.

  17. Ivan says:

    Im going to pull a Mike Axisa and say the Jets will bring the potential tying TD at the red Zone.

  18. Xstar7 says:

    The Jets are going to use this field goal as a springboard to win this game. Which they definitely will.

  19. NJYankeeFan says:

    Ouch. I expected a much better game from the Jets. It looks like last week was their superbowl against the Pats.

  20. John says:

    Steelers will NOT give up a 21 point lead. Go steelers!!!!

    • Xstar7 says:

      Ummm sorry but the Jets are the greatest team ever and are going to win it all because they are super awesome and cool and Rex Ryans wife’s feet are hot.

      (If you haven’t noticed already I’m trying to jinx the jets)

    • jackstrawelf says:

      I can’t root for a dirty qb he should’ve done more time than vick

  21. Gonzo says:

    I guess Rex Ryan’s future is dependent on Mark’s development.

  22. camilo Gerardo says:

    i want to hear rex ryan post-game

    • Xstar7 says:

      You mean when he’s talking about what a great win it was for the Jets and how Aaron Rodgers should have been watching?

  23. Esteban says:

    Maybe it’s not over. One can hope.

  24. jackstrawelf says:

    They got rid of Holmes for smoking grass but kept roethlisburger for assaulting women strange team

  25. Esteban says:


  26. Xstar7 says:

    An Interception? OH SHIT! The Jets are going to win for sure now!

  27. jackstrawelf says:

    It’s still hypocritical of the NFL, that dogs r more important than women n weed is just as much as sexual assault

  28. jackstrawelf says:

    roethlesburger a scumbag

  29. jackstrawelf says:

    Enough for me to say he a scumbag

  30. mbonzo says:

    I sometimes, usually by accident, wander into the MLB TR forums. I just got completely shut out, called an idiot, and told to GTFO for arguing that Gardner had a better 2010 than Heyward. I know you could argue either side, but there are some seriously ignorant people in that community.

    • FIPster Doofus says:

      MLBTR is good for information; however, the comments section is a perfect storm of awfulness.

    • bexarama says:

      I just got completely shut out, called an idiot, and told to GTFO for arguing that Gardner had a better 2010 than Heyward

      Wait… what? I’m a big fan of Gardner but how do you argue that, I’m sorry.

      • AndrewYF says:

        They actually had similarly valuable seasons, if you want to take defensive stats at face value.

        But Brett Gardner has hit his peak. Jason Heyward has a long way to go before he hits his.

        • mbonzo says:

          Exactly, Heyward has huge potential, Gardner has pretty much hit that.

          But in 2010, I would rather have Gardner’s 5.4 WAR than Heyward’s 5.0 WAR.

          • Esteban says:

            I say the difference is negligible, considering the imprecision of UZR.

            • mbonzo says:

              I could understand arguing either side for that reason. But I believe that UZR is a good measure for outfielders, and I don’t think there are any weird defensive shading from either the Yankees or Braves. So I’m on the Gardner side.

      • FIPster Doofus says:

        Higher fWAR

    • Esteban says:

      They were within .4 in fWAR (and Gardner’s WAR is pretty mch based on defense anyway) and I would certainly take Heyward going forward over Gardner.

  31. jackstrawelf says:

    Nah I am a fan of treating women with respect

  32. Esteban says:


  33. Big Juan says:

    Met Buster Olney today. He answered questions for about a half hour and it was a lot of fun.

    I asked him a question about writers and their responsibility to understand sabermetrics and he kind of skirted around the question. Basically his answer was that he wants to write articles that anyone would want to read and that sabermetrics drive away casual fans.

    He went on to say that he could have a conversation about sabermetrics with someone like me because he understands them and enjoys them, but the only stats he ever named were VORP, WAR and Fielding Independent Batting Average, which I’m fairly certain doesn’t exist (please correct me if I’m wrong), so I wonder how well he really does understand them.

    Overall, though, he’s just an excellent, down-to-earth kind of guy and I really enjoyed the opportunity to talk with him.

  34. Esteban says:


  35. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Wow. Intense game so far this year. As much as I hate the Jets, they’ve answered most of the questions that anyone has ever had about them and they lived up to the hype this year. Regardless of the outcome of this game, the Jets answered the call this year.

    • Jimmy McNulty says:

      Most intense*

      Great second half so far.

    • Esteban says:

      Haha wow, I’m surprised to hear you say positive things about the Jets. Has your opinion of Sanchez improved at all?

    • bexarama says:

      but what about Sanchez /you bait’d

      (I actually think he’s playing pretty well in this game)

      • Jimmy McNulty says:

        That’s the only one that remains unanswered. He’s in the right place to shine, though. He has good WRs, a good OL, a good running game, a good defense, and doesn’t need to have a 100+ QB rating in order to win games.

        • bexarama says:

          Agreed, he’s never gonna be that team’s strength. Or if he is something has changed a lot.

        • Steve H says:

          I think Sanchez has a Brad Johnson/Jake Delhomme type of ceiling. Good enough to win it all with the right guys around him, but not good enough to be a playoff contender year in and year out the way the top tier QB’s generally make their teams.

  36. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Wow. Not a good moment for the Jets.

  37. Esteban says:

    They need a TD here. Obviously.

    • Jimmy McNulty says:

      Maybe start running the two minute? The Steelers are capable of killing the clock.

      • Esteban says:

        Drive took too long,, but they finished well.

        • Jimmy McNulty says:

          Yeah, probably just one of those growing pains with Rex as a coach and his relationship with his QB. Jets fans have to hope he doesn’t go all Andy Reid in terms of clock management (I guess in terms of ass size and conference championships too, I guess).

          • Esteban says:

            I think Andy Reid’s level of success would be ok. If you’re getting to the playoffs every year, that’s not a bad thing.

            • Jimmy McNulty says:

              Yea, but getting to the conference championship every year and choking it away due to stupid ass decisions has to be annoying. Though you are a Jets fan, so maybe you’re okay with always being the bridesmaid and never the burro.


  38. Mickey Scheister says:

    Here we go…

  39. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Go for two. The XP doesn’t do anything for you at all, but if the Steelers get a FG, at least with the two they had a chance at tying it with a TD…though I doubt that’s an unlikely scenario if the Steelers get a FG the Jets likely aren’t seeing the redzone again.

  40. Xstar7 says:

    Jets are going to win for sure now. They’re going to get a game winning touchdown in the last possesion. Sorry If I’m spoiling it for people who don’t already realize this.

  41. bexarama says:

    why the hell are they playing “Shipping Up to Boston”

  42. Esteban says:

    This is the game

  43. Esteban says:

    Let’s go Packers.

    And I still think that fumble call was questionable. I mean, how was that a fumble and the Tuck Rule exists?

    • Steve H says:

      He wasn’t tucking though. He was going to throw, he wasn’t bringing the ball back down. It was a close play, and I don’t think it was going to be overturned either way.

  44. bonestock94 says:

    Damn, got my hopes up in the second half. Go Packers, sevenburgh is a shitty thought.

  45. jackstrawelf says:

    The NFL luvs its hypocrisy n black eyed peas when does spring training start I can’t take two weeks of that scumbag quarterback

  46. NJYankeeFan says:

    Valiant comeback by the jets but their clock management in the 2nd half was awful. They should have been in the hurry up the whole half and instead wasted the entire 4th quarter on 2 drives usually taking the play clock down inside 10 seconds. Seems like Schottenheimer just couldn’t get the plays in fast enough.

  47. Esteban says:

    Is anybody gonna root for the Steelers besides Steelers fans and Brett Favre?

  48. FIPster Doofus says:

    Steelers-Packers should make for one hell of a Super Bowl. Go Packers.

  49. Xstar7 says:

    Now that the Jets are out of it can we shift back to baseball? Sheese. I was getting sick of all that Jets hype.

  50. Poopy Pants says:

    I was hoping for Packers- Steelers. Nice. Screw the Jets.

    Go Packers.

  51. pat says:

    Pace and Thomas are nice, but the Jets need someone who can get to the QB from the edge. I liked the Ghoulston pick at the time, but his lack of development has really hindered them.

    • Mister Delaware says:

      Holy goddammit, yes. Gholston the prospect was the perfect fit but he’s just never panned out, not even as a “just run at the QB” guy. But the ILBs were the problem tonight; Harris wasn’t good and Scott (I say while still wearing my Scott shirtsey) was downright awful tonight. Not that they need to make a change, I’ll take Harris and Scott forever, but tonight they were really bad. Devito, the least taletned of the front 7 rotation by a mile, was the best of them all tonight. Bad sign. (And, I bet if someone goes back, atleast 50% of Mendenhall’s rushing yards came after contact by Pouha. No one was ever there to clean up.)

  52. Thomas Cassidy says:

    Did anyone read Jayson Stark’s list of underrated players on ESPN? This guy is almost as bad as Steve Phillips.

  53. STEVIS says:

    Did anyone really believe that the Jets would win the Super Bowl?

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