Open Thread: From football back to baseball

Yankees willing to give Pettitte $13M or so
Keppinger goes under the knife

That photo of Yankee Stadium comes courtesy of Ryan Ruocco, who works for YES and ESPN Radio, among other outlets. As you can see, the process of converting the field back to baseball is now underway since the Pinstripe Bowl has been played. Baseball is still a few weeks away, but it’s slowly drawing closer and the Stadium is being prepped. Yay.

Anyways, here is the open thread for the night. Both the Devils and Islanders are in action, plus the GoDaddy.com Bowl (Middle Tennessee vs. Miami (Ohio)) is on ESPN if that’s your thing. The thread is yours, teach it as you see fit.

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Yankees willing to give Pettitte $13M or so
Keppinger goes under the knife
  • http://www.richardiurilli.com/ Richard Iurilli

    Whooo, baseball is in the air!

    Also, go Seahawks!

  • LGY

    How DID they go about removing the snow? I’d like to see something in regards to that.

    • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

      …Casey Kelly

      /obligatory’d

  • http://twitter.com/bryanl26 Bryan L

    JERSEY SHORE.

    • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

      JERSEY SHORE sucks.

      • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

        Jersey Shore makes me embarrassed to be from New Jersey. Granted, most of the people on the show aren’t actual Jerseyans.

        • http://twitter.com/bryanl26 Bryan L

          C’mon, live a little…

          • The Real JobaWockeeZ

            Have to agree. It’s for shits and giggles and it’s scripted anyways.

      • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

        I grew up with all people like that, the last thing I need to do is watch them on TV.

        Staten Island FTL.

        • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

          All sorts of this, and LI is no better.

    • http://www.twitter.com/adorador00 Ray Fuego

      Jersey Shore is one of the reason the world hates us, we produce that POS.

  • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

    the GoDaddy.com Bowl (Middle Tennessee vs. Miami (Ohio)) is on ESPN if that’s your thing.

    I haven’t paid much attention to college football in years, but didn’t almost all of the bowl games use to come prior to New Years day, then the big ones on New Years, then maybe one or two after? The GoDaddy.com Bowl featuring Middle Tennessee vs. Miami (Ohio) sounds like satire on January 6th sounds like satire.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      It keeps getting later and later every year, like the World Series. The National championship game isn’t until Monday.

  • http://www.richardiurilli.com/ Richard Iurilli

    Does anyone know if the team is doing anything about the hard warning track that Berkman and Tex complained about while the field is ripped up?

    • CS Yankee

      My question as well.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      They have not. Someone with knowledge of the material used emailed me way back when. Apparently it’s a fantastic material during the summer, firm yet safe, but during the colder months it can be pretty hard.

      • Marcus

        I love how you worded that in the style of a hot stove rumor. “Someone with knowledge of the material…” Well done, sir!

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Heh, it was unintentional. A reader emailed me, I don’t remember his name or I’d give him credit.

  • Sean C

    A very good friend of mine is going to the Prince concert at MSG tonight. One could say that I am purple with envy.

    • CS Yankee

      Just changed the iPod to Prince’s “Peach” after reading this.

      • Sean C

        My favorite recording artist of all time. It’s not even close.

    • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

      touche. Could have done better but… touche.

  • mustang

    Just a question but would sign Andy and Soriano make up for Lee?

    Andy 15+ Soriano 8 (3 years 24)= 23 that’s 1 million less then what Lee averages a year on his new contract and remember the next free agent class is very weak food for thought.

    • CS Yankee

      For 2011, I would bet not…

      However, 4 total years costing $40M$ would be a better bet than 7 total years costing 160M$.

      Lee for another year or three would be worth 30M$ per, but highly unlikely that he would produce 160M$ of value.

      The Johan’s & Zito’s type contracts rarely play out well…now the Doc deal that Philly got was a steal, I would have given Joba & Montero up in a heartbeat for that guy (if that trade rumor was true).

      • mustang

        Actually it would be 3 years for 39.

        • mustang

          I was thinking 3 years 24 for Soriano.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            That’s only $8M annually. I think other teams would line up around the block if he dropped his demands that much.

            • CS Yankee

              True that,

              Wouldn’t Tampa have paid that much thru arb?

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                More. He made $7.5M last year, after last year he’d probably be at $10M or so through arb.

                • CS Yankee

                  I don’t blame him for declining…as he played that game (loyality) for Atlanta and they go on to trade him.

                  Seems that FA relievers get screwed in a sense that most clubs don’t want to lose the draft pick thus limiting the teams that’ll persue them.

                  So, WAR is the only thing that picks on the closers.

                  /keepingitloose’d

                  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                    He accepted arbitration from the Braves because he didn’t think he’d get the same money on the open market. They had already signed Billy Wagner by then, he knew they would trade him. He just wanted his money.

                    • CS Yankee

                      I didn’t think it was a planned thing, I would think if (& I don’t doubt you here) your team signs a aging, injured historically good closer over you…you should decline a go get a multiple deal elsewhere, wouldn’t you?

                      Fail, Atlanta.

                  • CS Yankee

                    err, isn’t the only thing…

                • mustang

                  Yes, but that’s one year is Soriano and Boras really going to take a chance at another one year deal?

                  The reports today might be telling us the answer is no.

            • mustang

              Who?

              And you could go up to 3 for 27 that’s 9 a year.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                I have no idea, but I’m not doubting Scott Boras. He just got a team paying their franchise player $16M a year to give a player at the same position almost $100M.

                • CS Yankee

                  Young has been passed around the Texas infield like a cheap bottle of wine.

                • mustang

                  Agree.

                  • mustang

                    But the market for Soriano is much drier.

                    • CS Yankee

                      Nothing is dry if Boras is your agent…

                      except, of couse Johny Damon (circa 2010)

        • CS Yankee

          What’s a million dollars to friends?

          (or the Yankees for that matter)

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Every time I think Bleacher Report’s badness can’t be exaggerated it proves me wrong on that. Geez.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      I don’t think I’ve ever typed “Bleacher Report” into my browser. From what I hear from you and Ben, I’m glad that’s the case and will continue to be the case.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        I was reading a countdown of “bold” predictions for 2011 and it had, among other points:
        – Adrian Gonzalez will win the MVP
        – the Pirates will be bad
        – Dallas Braden will not throw a perfect game
        – Cliff Lee will stick with one team
        – Alex Rodriguez regrets using steroids
        – Josh Hamilton will get hurt

        I don’t think you know the definition of “bold,” author.

        • CS Yankee

          Bold= Mitre wins his 20th game of the season.
          Not bold= everything you list after the first.

          Bold= The Angels make the playoffs this year.
          Not Bold= Cashman will get a quality SP in 2011.

        • Mattchu12

          By the time I reached the bottom of the list, I thought, “it’s sarcasm, like, of course these things will happen.” But then I reread the first one……all I can say now is, “Wow.”

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            It had a few bold things (Carl Crawford will score 150 runs!). But it was mostly… not bold things.

            • Mattchu12

              I bet they thought it wasn’t far-fetched to think the Red Sox lineup would be the AL’s starting lineup at the All-Star game too…

        • Jose the Satirist

          Link?

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            I clicked out of the window.

            I do have this though:
            http://bleacherreport.com/gall.....ies#page/1

            Ummm…… fail.

            • I Voted 4 Kodos
              • Jose the Satirist

                Fantastic. Reading that author’s other stories should be interesting.

            • http://www.twitter.com/adorador00 Ray Fuego

              That made me LOL

          • Stratman9652

            I believe this is the article… http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....s-for-2011

            • Jose the Satirist

              I don’t think that one is it. I was hoping to read the one with Dallas Braden not throwing a perfect game.

            • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

              Bah, that’s another bold prediction article but not the one I read.

              • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

                OMG A-Rod should totally date Lady Gaga.

              • Stratman9652

                Count on Bleacher Report to put up two of the same articles of the same rediculousness. I nearly died about the Arod dating Lady GaGa thing. Hilarious.

            • Mattchu12

              My favorite one was trading Montero for Brett Myers. LOL.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          “Carlos Santana will win the AL Rookie of the Year Award.”

          I’d agree … if he was still eligible for the award.

          • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

            Didn’t stop Volquez

            /obligatory

    • JerseyDutch

      They know so little about baseball it’s hard to keep up with everything they don’t know.

      • Sean C

        Unlike this fine place where advanced stats are king and it’s hard to keep up with what everyone DOES know. I like having to occasionally look up what the hell everyone’s talking about. Which brings me to my next point: Thanks RAB community.

    • I Voted 4 Kodos

      They provide at least 3 Yankee articles a day worthy of FJM style lampoonings. I shudder to think how much shit they produce when you include articles that don’t involve the Yanks.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Just wanna go on record that I’m totally with Joe on wishing for the long-man to be Mark Prior. I’m expecting zero innings, but it would be the shit if Prior could lock down a spot.

    • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

      What about the 8th (seriously)? If he was healthy (doubtful) wouldn’t you rather have him in the 8th? Have Joba as the longman, Robertson as the fireman and have everyone else fill in around?

      • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

        That could work, too. I just want Prior to pitch at least one inning for the big league club.

        • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

          I think he will. He’s had plenty of time to get healthy, and amazingly is just 30. I don’t expect too much, but I think he’ll get a few innings before his rotator cuff spontaneously combusts.

      • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

        If Joba gets relegated to the longman position, I’d rather him just get put on waivers. Let him get a chance to do something with another team. Poor guy.

        • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

          I would want Joba in the longman spot so that he would be stretched out and could be going 2-3 innings at a time.

          • mbonzo

            Stop making sense!

          • http://www.twitter.com/TomZig Tom Zig

            I understand your line of thinking and would love for him to get another chance in the rotation, but even if they put him in the longman spot and he was sufficiently stretched out and someone went down with a long term injury, Kei Igawa would get the spot in the rotation before Joba did.

          • YankeesJunkie

            Joba should pitch be able to pitch 2-3 IP even if he was the set up man and that is true of all set up men.

    • Accent Shallow

      I disagree. I don’t let him face for than five hitters per appearance. And he gets three days off afterwards.

      • YankeesJunkie

        That seems to be over protective of a pitcher.

        • Sean C

          Prior Rules?

          • YankeesJunkie

            I’d would ride him until his arm fell off.

            • Mattchu12

              Again.

              • YankeesJunkie

                At least it is just a one year contract, but I guess I said it wrong I would pitch like a normal relief pitcher of his position whether it was long or short relief.

        • Accent Shallow

          My tongue was so far in my cheek I’m choking on it.

    • Mariano’s Pimp Hand

      Mark Prior is that guy that your friend will refer to ten years from now saying something like, “remember when the Yankees had Mark Prior?” And you’ll be, “Oh yeah, I had completely forgotten that happened.”

      But I’d love to be wrong.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

      Getting anything whatsoever out of Prior would be a great, great story. Just watching him pitch that first time back on a MLB mound would be must-see TV for me.

      • Accent Shallow

        Completely agree. Even if he’s LaTroy Hawkins bad, that’s still impressive to get back on the mound.

  • Craig

    Looks like Pavano can be shit upon in Minnesota for the next two years….

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

      2 years? That’s a long term deal for Carl these days.

  • ZZ

    This may sound really strange coming from me, but the Yankees should give Joba a chance to compete for a spot in the rotation Spring Training.

    Even if the Yankees have doubts or actually don’t believe Joba can handle being a starter long term or handle a starter’s workload in season, they don’t have the luxury at this point of bypassing that opportunity to find out. With a strong starting staff and farm system rich with pitchers as an organization you can make the type of decisions the Yankees have made with Joba. With Cliff Lee in the fold for 7 years and the farm system still probably a year away from the big impact pitchers being ready to contribute, you have the luxury to keep Joba in the bullpen if you feel he is best suited to excel in that role.

    Right now though the Yankees do not have that luxury. Even if Andy returns, if Joba could give them just 120 innings of quality pitching that would be a huge help. If he steps up and excels as a starter then that is just fantastic.

    Right now, at minimum, it doesn’t make much sense to not tell Joba to come to camp as a starter, work with Rotschild, see what kind of shape he is in, evaluate his mechanics, and see if he is back to throwing the ball downhill again like he showed in flashes towards the end of 2010.

    Baseball is a game of adjustments. It is time for the Yankee FO to make an adjustment given the starting staff.

    • The Real JobaWockeeZ

      Let’s hope this bullpen for life thing is an arbitration ploy. Doubtful though.

  • Accent Shallow

    Posting this here, apropos of nothing.

    “Women sense my power, and they seek the life essence.”

  • AJ

    True or false. Andy could ask for $18-$20MM for one year to come back and have a good chance of getting it.

    • AJ

      Andy you diabolical…

    • Rob (Not the Bad)

      I don’t know if the Yankees would go up to the $20 million range, but I can certainly see a $16-18 million contract. It’s one year, so limited fiscal exposure. I guess if Andy wants 17 or 18, he starts by asking for 20.

      • AJ

        I think if Jack Morris is getting HOF consideration then one more year from Andy and a possible 6 rings should put him in the conversation as well.

        • AJ

          Oh yeah, so my point was yes I think he’ll come back for one more and ask for about $20MM and settle for around what you said, $18MM.

  • AndrewYF

    And so it begins. Casey Kelly is now a ‘B’ instead of a ‘B+’ prospect in John Sickels’ eyes.

    Amazing how the shine wears off a prospect once they aren’t affiliated with the best player development system ever to exist.

    • Pat D

      Man, I would have thought Sickels was above that nonsense.