Fan Confidence Poll: February 21st, 2011

Open Thread: RAB turns 4
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  • Bob Stone

    I’m stubbornly hanging in here with a nine again.

    I don’t think the Red Sox improved as much as MSM claims. Gonzalez and Crawford replacing Martinez and Beltre is pretty much a wash. Jenks is a nice pickup but it doesn’t make their bull pen better that that of the Yankees. And, the BoSox have questions in their rotation like the Yanks do.

    The farm system is solid. The business side of the Yanks is doing well. The offense is potent. The bull pen is very strong. I have faith that Cashman will solve the holes in the rotation.

    • Bob Stone

      PS – Happy Birthday RAB!

    • Nigel Bangs

      I’m loving this reasonable optimism.

      • Bob Stone

        Someone has to take the optimist lead now that TSJC isn’t commenting on the site much anymore.

        • king of fruitless hypotheticals

          not just optimism…fanboi optimism doesnt help people off the ledges. that kind of reasonable optimism up there^^^^^? that’s gold.

          I had an argument yesterday about the yankees–every time he said something, i named another prospect. when he finally broke down screaming and said ‘YEAH, BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS SUMMER?’

          i just smiled and replied: brian cashman has money.

          #lifeisgood

          • Bob Stone

            Love it.

    • Mister Delaware

      I’m not in a panic over Boston’s moves but just having Crawford/Gonzalez cancel out Beltre/Martinez ignores the 500+ combined PAs that Youkilis and Pedroia missed.

      • Ted Nelson

        I agree that I’m not freaking out, but they got better. Boston had particularly poor luck last season, but there’s no guarantee they have perfect health this season. When they were healthy Youklis and Pedroia were also putting up career numbers or close, which is also not a guarantee for 2011.

  • Reggie C.

    Six.

    Colon looks like he’s in midseason form. Mitre must’ve smiled at the sight of his competition for that last slot. Phil Hughes better be working on that put-away pitch.

    • Ted Nelson

      My guess is that Freddy Garcia is the competition a lot more so than Bartolo Colon… seeing as he actually pitched 157 innings in the AL last season and gave up 3 or fewer ERs in 21 of his 28 starts. Really, I would say that Garcia is probably the 4th starter and Nova competing with Colon and Mitre for the 5th slot.

      • CMP

        Garcia should be our 6th starter down in scranton with Nova as 4th and Millwood (if he comes to his senses) as 5th.

        • Ted Nelson

          Garcia can become a free agent if he doesn’t make the team, and if he shows anything in ST there’s probably a team that at least picks him up for their bullpen.

          Garcia was better than Millwood last season in terms of FIP and ERA and put up the same WAR in fewer innings… but I guess Millwood is a better option??? Millwood gave up 3 or fewer ERs in 16 of his 31 starts (52%) while Garcia did that in 21 of his 28 starts (75%)… again, clearly Millwood is awesome and Garcia sucks (even though he’s a better pitcher).

          • CMP

            Garcia has 3.1 WAR total over the last 4 years with a high of 1.6. Millwood has AVERAGED 2.4 WAR over the same time.

            They both had 1.3 WAR last year, Millwood’s coming in the MUCH more difficult division and in a hitter’s park.

            Garcia’s 157 innings last year were his highest in 4 years by 100 innings. Millwood’s worst year in the last 4 was 169 innings.

            We’re arguing over 2 pieces of shit here but if Millwood were willing to sign a minor league contract, I’d make him the favorite over Garcia for the 5th spot in the rotation with the best chance of giving the team 160-180 innings and 1-2 WAR over replacement level.
            You gush over Garcia and his quality starts like he’s some kind of solution to the Yankees pitching problems when in reality he’s nothing more than cannon fodder at the back of the rotation for a couple of months until Cashman can bring in reinforcements.

            • Ted Nelson

              “Garcia has 3.1 WAR total over the last 4 years with a high of 1.6. Millwood has AVERAGED 2.4 WAR over the same time.”

              Millwood was 32 4 years ago… That’s pretty irrelevant to his 36 year old self. At 32 Colon won the Cy Young… how much does that tell you about his 2011? Millwood’s been bad both of the past two seasons, for 2 different teams in 2 different divisions. The AL West is probably weaker offensively than the Central, and that’s where Millwood was equally bad in 2009 as with Baltimore in 2010.

              All of Garcia’s value comes since returning from injury in 2009. Since then he’s had 1.25 healthy and effective seasons. He was a work-horse before the injury and has been healthy for 1.25 seasons since coming back from it. It’s not a fact that he’s injury prone or will get injured this season.

              “They both had 1.3 WAR last year, Millwood’s coming in the MUCH more difficult division and in a hitter’s park.”

              Camden Yards is fairly neutral. US Cellular (Garcia’s 2009 and 2010 home) is more of a hitters’ park… Arlington (Millwood’s 2009 home park) was more of a hitters’ park. YS is more of a hitter’s park. Get your facts straight.

              And Garcia pitched in the AL. He handled the AL East better than Millwood in a smaller sample. 2010:
              NYY: 13 IP 5 ER (3.46 ERA)
              Bos: 7 IP 2 ER (2.57 ERA)
              TBR: 7 IP 2 ER (2.57 ERA)
              Tex: 13 IP 5 ER (3.46 ERA)
              Tor: 3 IP 7 ER (21 ERA)
              Min: 22.1 IP 13 ER (5.3 ERA)

              Combined NYY, BOS, TBR: Garcia = 27 IP 9 ER (3 ERA)… Millwood = 52.7 IP 29 ER (4.95 ERA)… In YS they both only had 1 2010 start, but Garcia gave up 4 in 6 innings, while Millwood gave up 6 in 5.2 innings. Certainly not proof Garcia is better in YS, but no way to say Millwood is better in the stadium.

              “Garcia’s 157 innings last year were his highest in 4 years by 100 innings. Millwood’s worst year in the last 4 was 169 innings.”

              Again, this doesn’t mean that much. That’s done with. Millwood could still get hurt. Garcia has been healthy for the past 1.25 seasons and all the time he missed was from one single injury. He’s not some train wreck like Mark Prior, Webb, Harden, or Sheets who hasn’t shown anything since injury. Presenting him as such and ignoring that all his time in the past 4 seasons came in the last 1.25 is not wise.

              “You gush over Garcia and his quality starts like he’s some kind of solution to the Yankees pitching problems”

              I’m stating facts about Garcia. You’re stating your opinion that Millwood will stay healthier than Garcia in 2011. See the difference? Garcia WAS better than Millwood on a per innings basis in both 2009 and 2010. That’s a fact. Millwood being more likely to say healthy IN THE FUTURE… that’s speculation.

              • Ted Nelson

                I included Texas and Minnesota with the list of Garcia’s results because they were the 4th and 5th best offenses in the AL behind NY, Bos, and TB. (Blue Jays were #6.)

  • SodaPopinski

    You have to give it a 10. RAB turned 4. I’m feeling very confident.

  • http://yankeeanalysts.com Matt Warden

    7 (for what feels like the millionth week in a row) — Offense and BP look straight. Once the rotation sures up a bit, I’ll be back at an 8.

  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    Remaining at 10. Now that my main man, Hector Noesi is in camp, I see nothing but straight domination out of the Yankees this year.

    • pat

      You mean Hector “62bb in 353ip” Noesi?

      • pat

        I meant that in a good way BTW. Sick control.

        • Andy in Sunny Daytona

          He’s got crazy control. If he doesn’t make it as a starter, he would make a heck of closer. The Heir to Mo.

  • CMP

    Still a 6 mainly based mainly on the crappy back end of the rotation. Mike forgot to mention a couple of stories Buster Olney broke in his column today. The yanks are looking for starters and Delin Betances is our top pitching prospect but has never pitched above A ball. That Buster, He’s a fountain of information.

    • Ted Nelson

      Guess those 14.1 IP in Trenton don’t count to Olney?

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      you’re a six…because of the 5th and 6th pitchers in our rotation?

      i’m glad we’ve got a strong bench, cause you’d be a 5 if it were any weaker…

  • ChrisS

    Jeter gets his 3,000th against the Sox, June 7th. 9th inning, game winner. Yankees take AL East lead and hold it for the remainder of the season.

    Red Sox Nation weeps.

  • MattG

    This is a silly thing that amounts to little, but for me it’s what the confidence survey is about. Passing on Kevin Millwood for $4M, when you have the Yankees’ money and needs, is indicative of a bad decision-making process. Millwood is projecting a 4.50-ish FIP and 180+ innings. If you are the Yankees, how is that not worth $4M?

    I can’t believe I am in this position to be so worked up about Kevin Millwood, but come June whatever, and the Yankees are digging into the minors yet again for someone that can make a start, this decision is really going to hurt.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Millwood has been over a 4.50 FIP in three of the last four years, and has been in the 4.80’s the last two. I don’t see any reason to believe he’ll pitch to a 4.50 FIP at age 36. Bad decision making? Hardly.

      • MattG

        Misleading. He pitched to a 4.80 and 4.02 FIP in Arlington, and had a 3.94 FIP on the road last year. He was bombed for 20 home runs in Camden Yards, something so unlike the rest of his stat line for his career, it can be blamed on the park (I am not saying the dimensions of the park, but his personal distaste for the park). A 4.50 FIP is a very realistic projection for him for 2011–Marcel projects 4.61, Bill James 4.35.

        And he will pitch 190 innings if you give him the starts. The likelihood of Garcia, Colon and Nova combining for 190 innings is lower than Millwood doing it by himself.

        If they don’t get him, this is a bad decision.

        • Ted Nelson

          “He was bombed for 20 home runs in Camden Yards, something so unlike the rest of his stat line for his career, it can be blamed on the park”

          What park do you blame the 17 HRs on the road in 2009 on? Or is it his distaste for travelling? Your theory that he dislikes Camden is pretty hard to prove, as well as pretty unlikely to be the cause of 2 straight poor seasons when he pitched there only one season…

          “He pitched to a 4.80 and 4.02 FIP in Arlington, and had a 3.94 FIP on the road last year.”

          ??? In 2009 he was better in Arlington than on the road. His 2010 splits are due as much to walks and Ks as anything, so I’m not sure how that’s park related. The other big part–the HR total switched Home/Road from 2009 to 2010, but he gave up 26 in 2009 and 30 in 2010… not far off.

          “The likelihood of Garcia, Colon and Nova combining for 190 innings is lower than Millwood doing it by himself.”

          Yeah, because they didn’t do that last season or anything… Oh, they did? Even when one only came up at the end of the season and one was out of baseball for the season? Oh, yeah, they did. You realize that Garcia came back from his injury late in 2009 and has been quite healthy since, right?

          With the strong bullpen the Yankees have, less might be more to a degree with these guys. They don’t need Millwood to soak up too many crappy innings. 5-6 allowing 3 runs can be better than 6-7 allowing 4 runs with that pen.

          “Misleading.”

          Suggesting his failure across two seasons was a product of the second season being in Camden is misleading. Especially when Yankee Stadium is more hitter friendly than Camden and so is US Cellular (where Garcia played last season). Arlington is also more hitter friendly than Camden.

          Garcia’s FIP was also .50 higher at home last season, and he played in a more hitter friendly park than Millwood. Maybe he also had a “personal dislike” for his home field that caused him to pitch poorly…

          • MattG

            You’re folding outlying statistics into the whole, and coming up with one conclusion. I am separating out the outliers, and coming to a different conclusion.

            This can probably all be settled agreeably if I had the right statistics. I’d like to see GB/FB rates and HR/FB for home vs road in 2010. I don’t know where to find that information. From what I see, Millwood allowed more fly balls and more home runs per fly balls in Camden Yards than you would expect considering his 2010 road stats, 2009 stats, 2008 stats, and his career stats. What does this mean?

            Not sure. But with the stats as they are, he pitched 190 innings and totaled 1.3 WAR. That alone, without improvement, sounds like a major league contract to me.

            If leaving Camden would allow his 2011 performance to resemble his 2008, 2009 OR 2010 road performance, that figure could easily be 2.0 WAR. And I do expect Nova + Garcia + Colon to have < 2.0 WAR in 2011:

            * Garcia pitched 157 innings in 2010, but 129 combined in 2007-2009
            * Colon has pitched 256 innings in the last 5 seasons
            * Ivan Nova owns a k/9 < 6, and has pitched 6 innings in the major leagues just once

            If you count on all three of them for 28 starts, you've got a great chance to be disappointed–counting on them for 58 starts is really foolhardy. You want 58 starts hopefully above replacement level? Add Kevin Millwood to the rest of the drecht.

            • Ted Nelson

              “From what I see, Millwood allowed more fly balls and more home runs per fly balls in Camden Yards than you would expect considering his 2010 road stats, 2009 stats, 2008 stats, and his career stats. What does this mean?”

              And he allowed 17 HRs on the road in 2009. 30 HRs on the season is not an outlier when you allowed 26 the season before and are in your late 30s. It’s a trend. One that’s likely to be repeated by a RHP in Yankee stadium.

              Your argument that he’s better on the road falls apart because he was worse on the road in 2009… there’s no trend to point to. Just one season. Camden Yards is more pitcher friendly than YS, Arlington, US Cellular… so it’s a stretch to say that park caused his problems.

              “Not sure. But with the stats as they are, he pitched 190 innings and totaled 1.3 WAR. That alone, without improvement, sounds like a major league contract to me.”

              Garcia pitched 157 innings and had a 1.3 WAR… is that a major league contract to you?

              “If leaving Camden would allow his 2011 performance to resemble his 2008, 2009 OR 2010 road performance, that figure could easily be 2.0 WAR.”

              His 2009 road performance was AWFUL (5.16 FIP). Yankee stadium is a hitters park made for crushing RHP… why is he going to suddenly improve as a Yankee staying in the AL East? If I’m an NL team I might sign Millwood to a small major league deal.

              “* Garcia pitched 157 innings in 2010, but 129 combined in 2007-2009″

              Again, you are ignoring that 1/2 of those 129 came after he returned from a shoulder injury in 2009. The trend was not sporadically missing games for a variety of reasons. It was a single injury he took 2 years to recover from (getting cut in spring training along the way), but seems to have recovered from over the past 1.25 seasons.

              “* Ivan Nova owns a k/9 < 6, and has pitched 6 innings in the major leagues just once"

              In 7 starts after a call-up. I don't think innings are as important with the Yankees' bullpen. This is why they threw all that money at Soriano. To shorten starts. They would also likely shorten Millwood's starts compared to Baltimore. Across 25 starts Nova's 2010 pace would put him at 130 innings (assuming no improvement from last season).

              "If you count on all three of them for 28 starts"

              I'm counting on Colon to not make the team… I'm counting on Garcia and Nova to start the season and be replaced by trade acquisition(s) and/or call-up(s) if needed. I am not counting on a combined 58 starts. Maybe if Burnett bounces back, Hughes steps up, and CC is healthy… otherwise the Yankees are going to need another front-end starter for a potential playoff series. I'm pretty confident they'll find a front-to-mid guy on the trade market.

              "This can probably all be settled agreeably if I had the right statistics. I’d like to see GB/FB rates and HR/FB for home vs road in 2010."
              http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....eason=2010

              Scroll down and you'll find them. Then look at his 2009 splits:

              http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....eason=2009

              Again: 20 HRs at home in 2010, 17 on the road in 2009… there is no trend in the splits, only a trend of him giving up HRs both seasons.

              http://www.fangraphs.com/stats.....eason=2010

              Garcia had similar HR/FB splits in 2010… so again I ask whether you think he had a personal distaste for pitching at US Cellular?

              • Ted Nelson

                Also, re: Garcia… He had 1.6 WAR in 2009, all at the end of the season after coming back. 2.9 WAR across 213 IP and 37 starts since returning.

              • MattG

                My argument is not so much that he’ll improve in 2011 for sure, although I expect he will. Even if he pitches exactly as he did in 2010–4.86 FIP in 190 innings–that has more value than any one of Freddy Garcia, Bartolo Colon or Ivan Nova.

                Garcia: Where you say I am ignoring Garcia’s ‘durability,’ I say you are ignoring his very serious injury history. He has one mostly healthy season in the last four. That’s a big risk. I’ll concede he could make 30 starts for 2 WAR, will you concede he could make 8 starts for .4 WAR?

                Nova: I like Nova, but I think he’s a swingman/6th starter. I wouldn’t mind him making 12 starts, but I don’t think it’s wise to get him 120 innings. He’ll be exposed.

                Colon: We agree here.

                As for expecting to make a mid-season acquisition, I am incredibly uncomfortable with that, for several reasons: the games in the first half of the season actually count, what if no one is available, why would the Yankees want to trade from desperation, and so forth.

                I just don’t understand. Even if he is only a 1.3 WAR pitcher, that’s 190 innings of better-than-replacement-level, and being that the Yankees actually need about 350 such innings, I’m not sure where else they think they’re going to get them. On the surface, it does not add up.

                • Ted Nelson

                  “My argument is not so much that he’ll improve in 2011 for sure, although I expect he will.”

                  I still feel like you are ignoring 2009 and don’t really understand why… This wasn’t one bad season like AJ Burnett: he’s just bad.

                  “Even if he pitches exactly as he did in 2010–4.86 FIP in 190 innings–that has more value than any one of Freddy Garcia, Bartolo Colon or Ivan Nova.”

                  Again, both Nova and Garcia were better in 2010… So, I expect there’s at least an even chance they are better in 2011. They’ll combine for a guaranteed $2 mill if they make the team.

                  “He has one mostly healthy season in the last four. That’s a big risk.”

                  It’s not as much of a risk in context as 1 in 4. He had one major injury. He recovered from it over a few seasons, and since finally getting it together in late-2009 he’s been healthy and better than Millwood.
                  I have no idea what the risk of that injury re-occurring is. I do know that at 36, it’s not a given that Millwood will give you 190 innings, either. Just because he’s been healthier in the past doesn’t mean he’s immune to injury. He’s a 36 year old pitcher. His stuff is disappearing. He certainly could get hurt or may already be.

                  “Nova: I like Nova, but I think he’s a swingman/6th starter. I wouldn’t mind him making 12 starts, but I don’t think it’s wise to get him 120 innings. He’ll be exposed.”

                  I read that pretty much as conjecture. He’s a young pitcher who improved from 2009 to 2010. Could take a step back, but could easily improve from 2010 to 2011. You don’t necessarily need a lot more than 12 starts… The 5th starter can be used sparingly the first 2 months (I believe there’s 5 starts in the first 2 months for a 5th starter, though that’s off the top of my head) and then a trade or call-up could replace him if he’s “exposed.” Brackman is a far better prospect, and both Noesi and Phelps have better minor league track records than Nova.

                  “the games in the first half of the season actually count”

                  It’s a long season and I don’t expect terrible results from Garcia and Nova anyway. This is a 5 runs per game offense… theoretically they can allow 5 runs per game and stay around .500. With that offense and that bullpen, I’m not too worried about starters who allow 3 runs per start. Phil Hughes allowed at least 3 runs in 15 of his 29 starts (52%) and averaged 6 IP even… he managed to win 18 games behind that offense.

                  “what if no one is available”

                  Someone is pretty likely to be available. Quality and asking price are questions, but someone will become available. Last season Haren and Lee were both pretty close to becoming Yankees. Had they been willing to sacrifice a bit more, they might have gotten either or both. I didn’t even hear about them making a run at Oswalt, but he was pretty cheap to acquire. That was 3 front-end starters traded last season alone.

                  “why would the Yankees want to trade from desperation”

                  They don’t have to. They have a very deep farm system and the ability to take on payroll. Right now would be desperation. Mid-season other teams will be falling out of contention, looking to cut payroll and add prospects for the future, and the Yankees will probably be in contention with at least one of Brackman/Noesi/Phelps/Mitchell primed for a call-up.

                  “I just don’t understand… I’m not sure where else they think they’re going to get them.”

                  CC, Hughes, Burnett, Garcia, Colon, Nova, Mitre, Noesi, Phelps, Brackman, Mitchell, Chris Carpenter, Francisco Liriano, Mark Buehrle, etc., etc.

                  “On the surface, it does not add up.”

                  Your subjective belief that Millwood is better than Garcia, Colon, and Nova aside, Garcia and Nova were literally better than him last season. That adds up. Not throwing a bunch of money that could be used at the deadline at a known mediocre pitcher with no upside adds up. Have some patience. The Yankees don’t need 190 mediocre innings from Millwood for $4 mill. They can get those mediocre innings in-house and use the $4 mill towards acquiring some good innings.

                  Even if you know for a fact that Garcia will snap his arm off and Nova will get exposed… it probably isn’t going to happen until a couple of months into the season. By that time the Yankees will know what they have in AAA and have a better idea of who may be or become available via trade.

                  • MattG

                    OK, you stated your point, I get it. I stated mine, it seems you get it. We disagree. I’d rather have what Millwood brings, warts and all, than $4M of payroll flexibility. What’s more, I don’t know it needs to be $4M guaranteed. Maybe $2M plus another $2M in incentives for innings would do the trick.

                    I stick to this: there are a whole bunch of innings to cover in the first three months of this season, and as I see it, the pitchers being asked to cover them aren’t going to stretch far enough–and that’s before you consider the possibility of an injury to one of Hughes, AJ or CC.

                    Can’t have too much pitching? No, you can’t.

                    • Ted Nelson

                      http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....vor-41424/

                      The Yankees have said they are interested in signing Millwood to a minor league deal. They made him an offer just last week. I’m not debating whether they will sign him should he bring his guaranteed asking price down considerably. I am saying that he’s not an obvious upgrade. There are plenty of reasons to believe Gracia will fair better this season, including that Garcia faired far better against good offensive teams last season. The Yankees have 3 of the best 5 non-Yankee offenses in their division, Baltimore should be at least a bit better, and in the playoffs they faced both Minnesota (#5 in AL) and Texas (#4 in AL).

                      Plus… as long as Millwood doesn’t sign elsewhere he’s still available to the Yankees in case a starter goes down or is awful early in the season.

                    • Ted Nelson

                      The above link, by the way, is to Mike Axisa’s article showing that a #5 starter may only be needed for 3 starts the first month of the season and 6 times in the first 42 games depending on the weather.

              • MattG

                Thank you for showing me the splits at Fangraphs.

                So, 2010 HR/FB:

                home: 15.5% road: 7.8%

                That home rate is just fluky bad luck, however the 7.8% is fluky good luck, so it sort of cancels out. I think you are somewhat right–this is mostly just a trend towards more home runs.

                I still like his ability to eat innings while performing better than all options except maybe Garcia, and more reliably than all options without exception. 350–at least 320–innings needed.

                • Ted Nelson

                  Garcia’s were somewhat similar at 13.5% home and 9.5% away.

                  It’s also encouraging that Garcia faired a bit better against the top 6 offenses in the AL than Millwood, since the Yankees will play 3 of them regularly.

                  I don’t know how volatility vs. consistency helps in pitching, but I find it somewhat encouraging that Garcia is really bad in like 25% of his starts and quite good (3 ER or less) in 75% for 2010. You’re going to lose some games ugly with him, but an offense like the Yankees has a chance to pick up a lot of wins in the 75% good starts.

                  In 14 of Millwood’s 31 starts (45%), on the other hand, he went 1-6 2/3 innings and have up 4+ ERs. 5 or more in 11. 6 or less IP and 4 or wore ER in 13.

                  So, with the Yankees pen and line-up I think 75% starts with 3 or fewer ERs and the occasional blow-out loss is preferable to almost half crappy starts where you’re given up 4 in 6 or fewer innings.

    • camilo Gerardo

      millwood would more or less get crushed in teh ALE; our farm can easily outproduce him and garcia, colon, mitre for that matter, too.

      Needless to say; 10

    • Ted Nelson

      “I can’t believe I am in this position to be so worked up about Kevin Millwood”

      I can’t believe you are so worked up over Kevin Millwood either… Both Garcia and Nova were better last season. $4 mill will be much better spent on a trade acquisition and Millwood isn’t getting $4 mill from another team so he could end up a Yankee for less.

    • Mike HC

      I keep trying to come up with a response for how you are wrong and misguided, but every time I try, I can’t really come up with one. I hope the Yanks get Millwood on the minor league deal, but signing him for 4 million (if that is a realistic option) would really not be that bad of a decision.

      To be honest though, if I were in the Steinbrenner’s shoes, no way am I paying another 4 million guaranteed dollars for something that will most likely be a marginal upgrade at best. The rotation is already mediocre and expensive, no need to make it more expensive and still be mediocre.

  • Kyle

    Nine, up from an eight because of all those Emmy nominations.

  • OldYanksFan

    Some of the folks that voted ONE or TWO should really explain why. Maybe they know something we don’t.

  • Mike HC

    9

    Our mediocre starting pitching is blinding everyone to the fact that our offense should be completely dominant. You can’t have everything. Our bullpen should be dominant, and in recent years, we have combined our dominant offense with a very good defense. This Yankee team is getting a ridiculous lack of respect. I don’t know when everyone decided you need to have 5 established aces on your staff in order to win. Starting pitching is important, but there are other ways to build your team in order to get the necessary wins. And we still have CC anchoring the staff. It is not like the rotation is even in shambles.

  • gio

    “Phil Hughes is free of innings limits in 2010.”

    It’s 2011.

  • David

    8.5

    Awesome offense.
    Awesome bullpen.
    Excellent farm system.
    More $ than anybody.

    Looking hard to trade. Plenty of excess to offer. It will happen.

  • CNP

    At the start of spring training it will always be a 10. God I love this sport.

  • BavarianYankee

    another week, another 8. I’m looking forward to Saturday, baseball is finally back :)