Open Thread: February 19th Camp Notes

Golden Albatrosses?
The Many Faces of Frankie Cervelli
Save those legs for the season, or something. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)

Today’s news…

  • For the most part, all the position players reported on time and took their physicals today. The one exception is Robbie Cano, who mixed up his dates and will take his physical when he reports tomorrow. Brian Cashman said his second baseman will not be fined even though he did not have permission to report late. (Mark Feinsand)
  • The first full squad workout will take place tomorrow, but a few guys were seen taking grounders and batting practice and what not. Derek Jeter will hold a press conference on Monday, Alex Rodriguez on Tuesday. No particular reason, they’re just two high-profile players that will be popular media targets, so they’re going to meet with them in an organized setting. (Chad Jennings)
  • Mark Prior was among the pitchers that got individual attention from Larry Rothschild in a bullpen session this morning. Those two know each other from their days with the Cubbies. (Jennings)
  • “It’s fun because this year, we’re the underdogs,” said Mark Teixeira, who acknowledged that no one will feel sorry for a team with a $200M payroll. We had some more Tex-related news this morning. (Mark Feinsand & Marc Carig)
  • “Last year for me, on a personal note, was a great year, almost kind of like a breakout year,” said Nick Swisher. “So now it’s time to add on to that … That’s the great thing about playing for the Yankees; every year you take the field you feel you have a chance to win the World Series.” (Erik Boland)

Here’s your open thread for this windy Saturday night. Both the Devils and Islanders are in action, plus there’s the NBA Skills Competition or whatever they call it as well. Talk about whatever, just don’t be a dick.

Golden Albatrosses?
The Many Faces of Frankie Cervelli
  • Craig

    I joined Twitter today, Anyone have any prominent Yankees to follow? Also, I applied for the MLB Dream Job- what a job I’d love to have. Obvious statement is obvious.

    • http://BeyondtheBoxScore Dave Gershman

      In terms of Minor Leaguers or Major Leaguers?

      There are lots of Yankee Writers/Personnel who you should follow, including the RAB guys and other Yankee people. There aren’t many minor league Yanks, a few though. Make sure you follow the Thunder feed.

    • Joey

      Just follow everyone Mike follows, kind of how I got started. And BizNasty2point0 is the greatest thing to Twitter ever.

    • Bryan L

      Curtis Granderson (CGrand14)

      • MannyGee

        don’t let your girl follow him, though… rumor on other Yankees sites is that CGrand will try and holla at her.

        Just sayin is all

    • Poopy Pants

      Don’t bother following a player on twitter. Waste of time.

  • John

    I like the fact that A-Rod is not talked about a lot this time around. I fully expect him (if healthy) to re-establish himself as one of the premier players in the game this year (if he was ever not considered as such).

  • Kiersten

    Good graphic on Pettitte’s (lack of) Hall of Fame credentials:

    • Nostra-Artist

      His best qualification is his post season wins, and that’s just a function of playing over a full season in October. All that shows is he was the exact same good, above average pitcher in the playoffs he was in the regular season.

      • Evan3457

        …which is actually still a credential much in his favor, because, presumably, in the post-season, the pitcher is facing teams that are much better at hitting than average.

        So merely matching a solid major league career with your post-season work is a major plus. Especially with as many games and innings as Andy pitched in the post-season in his career.

        Enough for the Hall? No. But it’s a credit to him, not a knock, and a substantial one.

  • squishy jello person

    I still can’t get over that Maquinito had heart surgery

    • MannyGee

      pretty wild right??? considering they are letting him resume baseball activities on Monday it might not have been so bad after all, more precautionary?

      • squishy jello person

        I dunno, the heart is like the one thing you don’t mess around with, ever.

        • Marcosq

          I’d go with the Brain, then the Heart.

    • first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

      Think of it as a minor “re-wiring”.

    • Nostra-Artist

      I still can’t get over Curtis Granderson hitting on my girlfriend.

      • first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

        Is she left handed? Because if she is you have nothing to worry about.

        • Nostra-Artist


      • Carlosologist

        I still can’t believe it’s not butter.

        • Nostra-Artist

          I still can’t believe the Yanks are choosing between Colon, Mitre and Freddy Garcia as their 5th starter.

          • Avi

            I can’t believe Burnett is their #3 starter.

          • Evan3457

            Garcia might be tolerable.

  • Monteroisdinero

    Nothing on Montero’s BP homers yet? Tape measures out?

    • first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

      They’re waiting for the balls to land.

    • MannyGee

      couldn’t measure them… balls disingegrated upon impact.

    • Sean C

      I heard he hit one back home to Venezuela. You know, just to let them know he’s thinking of them.

  • The Real JobaWockeeZ

    Meh all in all Swisher’s 2009 was more impressive but that 2010 first half was just flat out dominant.

    • Mike HC

      I doubt Swisher took this into account when he made that statement, but offense was down around the league in 2010, making Swisher that much better than his peers in 2010, even though he put up similar numbers in 2009.

      • The Real JobaWockeeZ

        Yeah I know. But I think some people look at the batting average and think he had a much better year.

        • whozat

          can’t I look at his OPS+ and think he had a much better year? Power around the league dropped, and he not only defied that, but boosted his output — even though his HR/FB fell back to his career average. And his OBP only fell a little compared to the league-wide drop, but he hit more balls on a line. Really, it speaks to Swisher making more hard contact in 2010 than in 2009 while still taking plenty of walks.

          • The Real JobaWockeeZ

            His wOBA was like .002 points better. He had more isolated power and got on base more in 2009.

  • Nostra-Artist

    Kevin DeLeon. Prospect or reject?

    • first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

      Prospect. Still too young to give up on, but this year will go a long way towards pushing him in either direction IMHO.

      • Ryan

        you said it, we know it is your opinion

      • Nostra-Artist

        Yeah, I was just reading a BA piece where Newman echoed those sentiments. It will be interesting to see how the work he did in the off season revamping his swing went. Sometimes that works, Austin Jackson had his swing revamped after his experience in A-ball. But it took A-Jax 2 years to really get comfortable with it. Even after this year, I still wouldn’t give up on him.

  • Zack

    fantasy thought: austin jackson looks fantastic in #tigers camp. could be primed for monster year

    Heard his BABIP will approach .500 this year

    • whozat

      The notion that anything can be determined from how a player looks on the day he shows up for camp is absurd.

  • squishy jello person

    I…I really don’t know what to say about the Devils any more. Do you believe in miracles?

    • Shawn Tzu


      until the over the hill Broduer settles back into the net & ruins the momentum from the revelation known as Hedberg.

    • Jimmy

      Hard to imagine that less than 2 months ago they were 10-29-2. Lou’s got some soul-searching to do before Feb 28, but how can you possibly start selling now?

      They still have only 4 more losses in the last 23 games to be able to reach 92 points and a probable 8th place spot. Still a huge long shot.

      But what an incredible run.

  • Nostra-Artist

    Anyone know how to search the teams with the most 5 WAR players, both pitchers and hitters?

  • bexarama

    Vegas over/unders

    FTR, what I think
    Arizona: under
    Atlanta: over
    Baltimore: just over
    Boston: just over
    Cubs: under
    White Sox: over
    Cincinnati: under
    Cleveland: under
    Colorado: under
    Detroit: over
    Florida: over
    Houston: under
    Kansas City: under
    Angels: under
    Dodgers: just over
    Milwaukee: over
    Minnesota: just over
    Mets: under
    Yankees: just over
    Oakland: over
    Philadelphia: over
    Pittsburgh: over
    St. Louis: under
    San Diego: just over
    San Francisco: under
    Seattle: under
    Tampa Bay: just over
    Texas: under
    Toronto: over
    Washington: just over

  • Nostra-Artist

    SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman

    had i arranged the #tigers clubhouse, i would have lockered “penny” and “wise” next to each other. #alotoftimeonmyhands!/SI_JonHeyman/status/39088679074922496


  • Zack

    So all of that was for Griffin to jump half way down the foul line over the hood of a car?

    • Shawn Tzu

      What an overhyped event. Hell SIr Charles got it right, for once, when he said it was all show, no substance. One of the most underwhelming All-Star Saturdays I’ve have watched in quite some time.

  • Avi
    • mbonzo

      I think its fair to say that the Yankees are becoming a different team. This new mantra of patience is something that is supposed to come from a small market team. These changes have been brought on by the growth of the team’s farm system, which gives them leverage. We’ve seen that the front office is very protective over their young pitchers, in that they will not push innings limits or move a player up in a system too quickly. I don’t expect this to be the same for Brackman. I’m one of the few who actually thinks he has a legitimate shot at making the 2011 team.

      First off, if Brackman was on any other team with the same rotational issues as the Yankees, Brackman would be a much larger part of the discussion. He’s not the young Banuelos type of pitcher who has room to improve his stuff, or the injury prone type like Betances, who needs to be stretched out and taught how to pitch with comfort. When Brackman was drafted, he had seriously good stuff and thanks to Tommy John surgery, he had to re-learn some very key mechanical issues. In Yankees land, we heard about how Brackman just didn’t look comfortable with his mechanics anymore, he was a different guy than the prospect who the Yankees thought they were drafting. 2010 changed that. He’s matured in his time recovering from Tommy John surgery to learn the game, and has recently gone back to the guy who threw mid 90’s with ease. Brackman has the stuff to compete in the major leagues, the only question left is if he really has re-learned being comfortable with his mechanics. If he has, I could see him making the team out of ST. This new Yankees outlook on things should see that Brackman is a different kind of prospect than what they’ve babied before.

      • Sean C

        The other question is if he can stay healthy after the TJ surgery. And, just one more question, if he doesn’t get traded as part of a package for a “legit” starter at some point this season. Neither should be out of the conversation. But, if he was on any team outside of the perennial front-runners, he’d have a legit shot at cracking the rotation out of spring training (provided he put up some good numbers, but then again it IS spring training and has it’s own crazy SSS issues).

  • Another Bronx Dynasty

    If you think the Red Sox made some major moved to become favorites in the AL East this yr just read this out of Boston & the will have the payroll flexability to pounce on Albert with $56M coming off the books, even with their signing of CC & A-Gon.

    If this happened they would have a legitimate dynasty. I hope Cash & the Steinbrothers are aware.

    • Evan3457

      So do the Yanks.

      Posada + Swisher + Marte + Igawa = $30 million coming off.

    • Carlosologist

      To be a dynasty you have to win a title first. Let’s not get carried away here.

    • bonestock94

      The Yankees have enough DH’s and massive contracts. Just because Boston does something, it doesn’t mean the Yankees should do stupid reactionary shit in response.

  • AJ

    Favorite counter-argument to the “Yankees buy championships” argument?