Open Thread: February 24th Camp Notes

Carpenter would accept a trade
The Yankee Analysts Top 30 Prospects
MFIFKY. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)

Here’s a recap of today’s action…

  • CC Sabathia threw an early morning batting practice session with Joe Girardi, Yogi Berra, Larry Rothschild, and others watching. He threw around 30 pitches and felt he kept his mechanics together, saying his stamina was better after the weight loss. (Chad Jennings, Marc Carig & Erik Boland)
  • Rafael Soriano threw a bullpen session with Jorge Posada behind the plate while Derek Jeter took some hacks against Sergio Mitre. Ground ball pitcher against ground ball hitter? Poor worms. (Carig & Carig)
  • Brian Cashman said that Andrew Brackman has been the most impressive young pitcher in camp so far, but he also mentioned David Phelps, Adam Warren, Hector Noesi, and Manny Banuelos. “You might see all of them [in 2011],” said the GM. (Jack Curry)
  • Position players did a bunch of mundane field drills, including cut-off man work on throws from the outfield. Russell Martin did some blocking drills, but Frankie Cervelli is the likely starter behind the plate for Saturday’s Grapefruit League opener. (Mark Feinsand, Bryan Hoch & Carig)
  • Joe Girardi misspoke when he revealed the Spring Training rotation the other day. Phil Hughes will start the fourth game, A.J. Burnett the fifth game instead of vice versa. He said not to read anything into the order, and I wouldn’t either. It’s still February. (Jennings)
  • Apparently the Yankees have a “director of optimal performance” by the name of Chad Bohling. The players watched him give a presentation this morning on … optimizing performance? I guess. (Jennings)
  • As for the annual team building exercise (the pool hall, arcade, etc.), that’ll happen later on in camp. There’s too much going on right now. (Carig)

This is your open thread for the evening. The Isles are the only local team in action, so yeah. Looks like The Office and Parks & Rec for me. Talk about whatever you like, just be cool.

Carpenter would accept a trade
The Yankee Analysts Top 30 Prospects

    Guys, who do you think is the more valuable player for a team?
    .300/.400/.375 with 30 steals and well-above-average defense in a CF, or
    .275/.350/.450 with 20 homers and below-average defense at C?

    • Mike Axisa

      The catcher.

    • squishy jello person


    • pete

      who is this .300/.400/.375 CF you’re thinking of?

      • squishy jello person


        I want my Rasmus.

        • squishy jello person

          Okay he’s not. But let me pretend.

      • Nostra-Artist

        Sounds like an optimistic Gardner projection. But Gardner’s defense isn’t above average, its elite.


    And how about Deron Williams, huh?

    • NJYankeeFan

      Nets are crazy. Unless the new CBA severely restricts player movement, no way D Will is gonna resign with the Nets who are gonna be a 50 loss team even with him next year.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        Their is talk of a franchise tag I’m completely against that.


        strongly disagree. if the nets sign crawford, kirilenko, west this offseason (they could easily) and then S&T lopez and picks to orlando for Dwight, that’s a top 3 team in the east for 2012

        • Dax J.

          That sign & trade for Howard is not gonna happen. You do know that Howard is their franchise player, right?

  • squishy jello person
  • Bryan L


    • CS Yankee

      thinking it might be a 10M$ Melky as a RP reference?

    • bexarama

      It’s for MotherFucker I Kill You, his nickname. Looks like there’s an extra F in there though. MotherFucker I Fucking Kill You?

      • fire levine

        I’m guessing mike put it in there so that the spelling matches the pronunciation

  • Sean

    If you’re watching the office + parks & rec you should watch community too

    • Mike Axisa

      Tried it on more than one occasion. Not feelin’ it.

      • Mike HC

        Agreed. I can’t get into Community and also tried a couple of times. Also can’t get into Outsourced. I like the Office and Parks and Rec too. Along with 30 rock.

        • Ryan

          ehh the office is great, but parks is just an office ripoff, and 30 rock is severely overrated

          try modern family.. now that is funny

          • Mike HC

            yea, I like Modern Family better than all of those

          • Pasqua

            Parks is certainly shot in the same style as The Office, but they have made great strides in the last year to move Poehler’s character away from the Michael Scott-school of naivety and stupidity. Plus, the supporting cast is unreal. If you’ve not watched it in a while, I’d highly recommend taking another shot.

    • Pasqua

      I’m afraid that Community is going to run out of gimmick-episodes and that will spell the death of it. They hit their stride with the action movie parody and have carried it well (zombies, D&D, etc.) since, but I feel like they’ve done it at the expense of being able to tell a simple story when they have to / need to.

    • Poopy Pants

      Community is awful. Not a laugh to be had.

  • Granderslam

    With all these rumors floating around (Buehrle, Carpenter, Liriano), any chance the Yankees can make a decent trade before the season starts or is July still more likely?

    • CS Yankee

      I see it as a four part process;
      1) Break camp with what (we got) looks best.
      2) Promote from AAA when it hits the fan or DL
      3) Trade once you know who is having a great season on a suckie team or who is undervalued (i.e. Wood of ’10).
      4) Promote and adjust once rosters expand, keep the strong heading into postseason.

  • Nostra-Artist

    Just wondering, does the “director of optimal performance” have someone who optimizes his performance? If not, don’t you think he should? I mean, how can he be expected to optimize every else’s performance if he wakes up on the wrong side of the bed?

    • Accent Shallow

      I know you’re being a smartass, but he probably follows some set system.

      • Nostra-Artist

        Yeah, some system that he sold to the Yankee brass.

    • JerseyDutch

      Just so long as he doesn’t over-optimize himself and disappear in a puff of efficiency.

  • carramrod

    Community suuuucks! Nothing funny about it..

    • The Tragically FIP

      Wrong. Just wrong.

  • Nostra-Artist

    Did anyone hear about this?

    Epstein had referred to the background check they did on Crawford in a radio interview last week with Boston sports radio station WEEI.

    “The more we dug on him, and we covered him as if we were privately investigating him. … We had a scout on him literally the last three, four months of the season at the ballpark, away from the ballpark,” he said.

    Epstein said Tuesday that the process they followed with Crawford was no different than the one they follow with any major free agent signing.

    Crawford said he was not certain at what stage in the process Epstein told him, but thought it was on the visit Epstein and manager Terry Francona made to his hometown of Houston before the winter meetings. Epstein confirmed that was the case.

    “I can’t remember when he told me,” Crawford said, “but I was a little freaked out.”

    Theo can backtrack all he wants, he said “away from the ballpark”. I’m not sure how common this is, it wouldn’t surprise me if the Yanks do the same thing, but at least they don’t have a GM who’s stupid enough to admit it publicly.

    • 28 this year

      That is pretty funny. Maybe now, free agents won’t want to go there knowing the creepiness of that team. I think it is a little extreme for a team to follow a player that deeply. I mean, I understand there are millions of dollars at stake but unless there is significant reason to believe something bad is going on behind the scenes, it is definitey extreme to follow a player around in such capacity.

      • bexarama

        Eh – they were committing many years and over $100M to the guy. I kind of understand it. That said, it’s still pretty creepy, and why admit it in public? O_O

        • Sweet Dick Willie

          Eh, I agree with 28, that unless there is significant reason to believe something bad is going on behind the scenes, that kind of behavior is way out of line.

          Then again, it could be SOP for all I know.

      • Nostra-Artist
        • CP

          And Steinbrenner was banned from baseball for that. I don’t hear rumblings about Theo being banned.

    • Bryan L

      Yeah I did. I’m not 100% buying it though. Maybe running a few background checks on Free Agents, but private investigating feels like a push…

  • Jorge

    What am I supposed to do with the boner I just got from the Brackman comment?

    • mbonzo

      Yea this is the first spring training I can remember the coaches talking so much about the prospects.

      • pat

        Prob because we only have three legitimate mlb quality starters in camp. :(

  • bexarama

    Harold Reynolds on MLBN is frightened by the idea of OPS. Well, then.

    • bexarama

      also, top 100 players:
      26. Chase Utley
      25. Ryan Howard


      • Accent Shallow

        It would be good for baseball if Ryan Howard was as good as his press clippings.

      • mbonzo

        Not that I think he deserves to be in the twenties, but Nick Swisher didn’t even make the top 100. He OPS’d higher than both of them last year. He’s seriously underrated here and on every fantasy list I’ve seen.

    • Urban

      OPS is basically a 666 evil number in Harold’s world.

    • The Tragically FIP

      It’s unfortunate, because when he does demonstrations, or talks about hitting or fielding he’s great. If he just accept advanced stats, he’d be the best baseball analyst going.

      • Urban

        Reynolds will say goofy, “old school” stuff, but I do like him. Mitch Williams is the man who needs to be fired immediately. Oh his best days, Williams is still horrible.

      • bexarama

        Eh – he’s so weird and shrieky I don’t like him at all.

    • Tom Zig

      what’s frightening about OPS?

      • Steve H

        The math?

        • mbonzo

          You ever try addition? Its boring as shit.

    • mbonzo

      20-11 has basically burned out half my top 10. I am ready to be pissed by their top 10.

      10. Mo… I love you mo but WTF ARE THEY THINKING

      • mbonzo

        Never mind, he was 11. Still came ahead of Longoria, Tulowitski, Hanley Ramirez.

        • bexarama

          When they got into the top 15 I was like “uh, Mo is either gonna be not on this list at all or in the top 15.” Both of which are insane.

    • Sean C

      I’ve started using wOBA in my everyday baseball language. No one understands it (and by no one, I mean my dad and friends). They like baseball, but not THAT much. I bet Reynolds would scream and runaway if he heard someone utter “wOBA.”

  • SamVa

    It seems in the past month I have seen Nova go from 4th starter to 5th starter to competing for 5th starter.. is that just a combination of picking up more pieces and boredom with speculation? or did I miss something?

    • Urban

      I don’t think anything has changed beyond the signing of Garcia, who is pretty much a lock to at least start the season as one of the Yankees starters. The Yankees won’t declare Nova as the likely winner of the 5th starter slot since there are a number of young pitchers in camp competing for the right, but I also think it’s pretty likely Nova will get first chance. The odds of both Garcia and Nova being good enough to stick the entire season are slim, so I suspect the other guys who make a strong impression in Spring Training will make to the big club during 2011. The Andrew Brackman watch begins seriously this year.

  • Steve H

    Nice little comment in the Klaw chat today:

    Bill (Trenton, NJ)
    Keith, you’ve been pretty critical of Curtis Granderson in the past. After the changes to his swing last year, he was very productive, even against lefties. Because of the mechanical adjustments, do you think this is sustainable, or would the success in the 2nd half just be considered a small sample size aberration?

    I acknowledged that in my playoff preview stuff – at that point, at least, he looked like a new man at the plate, especially against LHP. So I’m cautiously optimistic.


  • bonestock94

    Wow, 40% off jerseys at modells. Thinking of pulling the trigger on an authentic mariano jersey for $99!!

    Code: MOD40ASI223

    Are jersey sizes like suit jacket sizes?

    • mbonzo

      Yea saw that yesterday. You can find a size chart on the majestic website. I recommend going for one size over what it recommends. I was a 44, which while fits fine, actually fits like it does on the players, baggier jerseys look much more normal and aren’t as hot.

      • bonestock94

        Cool, thanks. I just bought it. Been meaning to get one for a while, nice to get it for relatively cheap.

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    I was at the performance optimization ‘presentation’ this morning…

    • Accent Shallow

      Well, since you clearly can’t tell us how you got in, mind letting us in on what synergystic BS it was?

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        he just walked in, yelled “COMPETE!” six times and left.

        it was impressive.

      • Sean C

        Don’t ever bad-mouth synergy. It’s bigger than all of us.


  • ultimate913

    This has to be the greatest flop of all time. Happened today in the Heat vs. Bulls game.

    Boozer wit’ them Jedi tricks!

    • Mattchu12

      New reason to hate Chris Bosh? Check.

  • Urban

    This probably was posted previously, but nice story about Berra and Guidry, players of different Yankee generations, who are best of friends during Spring Training.