Feb
27

Open Thread: February 27th Camp Notes

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Today’s goings on…

Here’s the open thread for the night. The Knicks are playing the Heat at 8pm ET (ESPN), and today’s Yankees game is being rebroadcast on MLB Network at the same time. That’s it for local sports, talk about whatever.

108 Comments»

  1. Stryker says:

    so how about betances today? /impressed

  2. bexarama says:

    Waaaah, annoyed I missed this game and that all the replays are while the Oscars are gone. Oh well – really glad to hear it was that awesome.

    • Sabermetrically Challenged says:

      same. Except I’m too lazy to watch the encore anyway. I’m a guy who can’t watch encores if he knows what happens, just ruins the excitement

  3. Sabermetrically Challenged says:

    Of course the game manny plays we can’t f-ing watch. Fml.

  4. Steve H says:

    Did Betances really have 9 swinging strikes? That’s what MLB.com said, but I find that hard to believe. If true though, that’s insane.

  5. Does anyone else feel a bit cheated by Joba changing his mechanics on the mound? I’m glad he is going back to the waist like he did when he first came up, but if becomes successful again because of it, I feel like I missed a good two years of not only good Joba, but Joba the Starting Pitcher.

    • murakami says:

      No s—. No reason why with the adjustment to earlier, more signature delivery he can’t be a starter. Meanwhile they’re messing around with Colon and Garcia. The Yankees have so twisted this thing up they can see left from right, or won’t. Joba is going to make them look awful foolish if he’s clean with his delivery and his velocity keeps rising – as a 7th inning guy. How about a dose of humility Yankees? Uh, we goofed. We gave up too soon. To make matters worse, that stupid GM accused the kid of being fat, and shot his mouth off on how he’d have to “earn” his right to be some ridiculous middle innings irrelevancy. Yeah, earn this.

  6. So everyone’s (new) favorite lefty is playing in the game no one gets to see? Weak.

  7. SamVa says:

    Just saying- although Betances looked a tad wild today, I was incredibly impressed with his stuff. Michael Kay made a very good point (shocked that he did) it was probably one of the first times, if not the first time, that Betances had the chance to pitch in front of his family/friends for the Yankees on TV. It’s still February.. He’s pitching in the second ST game of the year for the Yankees, his hometown team.
    I’m sure maybe he is a tad wild normally, but i’d bet we are going to see 75% of that go away when he gets comfortable with the idea. He could also be effectively wild in some way.

    Just my two cents.

  8. pat says:

    Dellin really shouldn’t be hitting 97 this early in the season. Maybe he was just geeked up to get into his first game, but you gotta ease your way into it big fella.

    • mbonzo says:

      It appeared to me that he was overthrowing his fastball. He was probably trying to impress with it, he got the velocity but not the location. His stuff was still incredible.

  9. Jerome S. says:

    I don’t wanna be a downer, but let’s not JIMP over one good outing by Betances. He smoked ‘em, but he has injury issues. And let’s not forget, it was only one inning facing spring-training fodder. All that said, looking forward to the MLB debut.

  10. David says:

    We have one of the best leadoff hitters in baseball, who will bat ninth.

    • Jerome S. says:

      Not bad though. He gets on base in front of Jeter, Grandy/Siwsh, and Teix, so he’ll get home no worries.

    • mbonzo says:

      Girardi, during the game, said that the Yankees signed Jeter to be the lead off hitter, but nothing is set in stone.

    • Monteroisdinero says:

      Think Jeter will ever leadoff a game with 2 consecutive walks without takng a swing? Doubt it.

      Gardy is frustrating-mostly to opposing pitchers. Not sure why he didn’t steal though.

      • bexarama says:

        Think Jeter will ever leadoff a game with 2 consecutive walks

        That is kind of impossible.

      • Klemy says:

        To be honest, and I’m not directing at you so much as making my own statement, I really don’t mind him swinging to get on.

        The man is nearing 3000 hits for a reason. I know his decline is probably here, but he made his way through career swinging the bat fairly effectively.

        I don’t think it’s fair to expect him to start trending to see more pitches per at bat when he’s nearing that milestone. We can all hope he is patient, but it would seem like that would be hard when your chasing a milestone that requires you to make contact.

  11. Total Dominication says:

    Anyone doing the FB salary cap fantasy? My team is my handle.

  12. Alex says:

    I was able to watch the game in Tamps today in addition to seeing the starting infield plus Jones and Cervelli take BP. Betances absolutely dominated – hitters were shaking their heads in disbelief on the way back to the dugout. At BP, Arod looked to be in midseason form as he put on a show for the crowd launching homer after homer over the left field wall. I’m encouraged for the season.

  13. mbonzo says:

    So I’m not sure if I should get MLB.tv this year. I get YES and live in NY, so I’d only need it for other teams. I have to admit that I’ve watched a couple streams last year and I’d prefer to get better quality streams and ease of use. Anyone want to try to convince me one way or the other?

  14. Craig says:

    If I’m the Phillies, Utley’s health concerns me to say the least

  15. Rod says:

    Montero didn’t look bad behind the plate. Even liked when he made a nice backhanded scoop in the LH batter’s box on a bad breaking pitch.

    • mbonzo says:

      Agreed, but I wanted to see some Phillies run.

      • Monteroisdinero says:

        Montero has a strong arm but how that will translate to throwing out runners remains to be seen. Our pitchers-especially without Andy-are poor at keeping runners close. We’ll see what Martin can do soon as well.

        • mbonzo says:

          I’ve heard he has a strong arm but slow delivery. He had below average numbers throwing out runners in AAA, so we’ll see. Maybe Pena or Girardi can give him some tips.

  16. Kit says:

    Love me some Betances. Hey everyone.

  17. mike_h says:

    Dellin was electric, so was Joba yesterday. Jorge Vasquez is clearly trying to win that bench spot.

    • Monteroisdinero says:

      is there really a place for Jorge Vasquez if he is our top hitter in ST? Trade value?

    • mbonzo says:

      That’d be interesting. Even if he out plays Chavez or Belliard, the Yankees would role with one of those guys first and then drop them if they have Randy Winn type seasons. At least he’s putting on a good show for the scouts. From what the Phillies have seen, Cashman should see if he can trade Vazquez for Hamels.

  18. The Real JobaWockeeZ says:

    Oh what is this shit? No watching ManBan? At least we got to see him at the Future’s Game but come on maaaaaaannnnnn.

  19. Monteroisdinero says:

    Not much news on the Kay wedding although he seems to have lost some weight. He has been tight-lipped about it-not one of his strongest traits.

    /successful early husband training

  20. Hall and Nokes says:

    Is nobody watching the Knicks? What is Outsiders era Ralph Macchio doing sitting behind Spike?

  21. Accent Shallow says:

    I’m digging in the permafrost

  22. Monteroisdinero says:

    Gardner has 4 ab’s so far and has 3 walks and a double. He has swung at one pitch if memory serves.

  23. squishy jello person says:

    I like what I’m reading about the Betances performance

  24. Kristen says:

    Saw the post-game interview with Betances and Jesus. Holy cow, I didn’t realize how tall Betances was until I saw him towering over Jesus.

  25. Pat D says:

    I don’t use Twitter, so I can’t “retweet,” but I thought this interesting:

    “@SBerthiaumeESPN Javier Bardem & Josh Brolin now returning to the top of the gay wedding cake they came down from.”

    Wow. Just because they both wore white tuxedos. Makes me wonder about Mr. Berthiaume…

  26. Pat D says:

    Oh, and R.I.P. to The Duke of Flatbush.

    After I watched HBO’s Brooklyn Dodgers special from a few years back, I felt that those Dodgers teams must have been a special kind of fraternity. Seeing more of them pass on is such a sad inevitability. And after all, Duke was to the Dodgers as The Mick was to the Yankees.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      The Boys of Summer is absolutely the sort of book any bookish little kid should read, especially if he/she is a baseball fan.

      (Not too little, there’s some weird stuff about Kahn discovering women in arguably the worst possible way)

  27. mustang says:

    Knicks beating the Heat great…. Watching James choke as they are doing it priceless!!!!!!

  28. Avi says:

    My early impressions:
    Nova looks like an above average major league starter. consistently in the mid 90′s, throws strikes, keeps the ball in the park. His curve looks at least ML average to me. Really looks like a 4.00 to 4.50 ERA guy. I think he’s underrated.
    Noesi 92-94 on a very straight fastball. No breaking ball to speak of in his first appearance. I don’t know how a guy can have a succesfull ML career with really no usable secondary pitches. Hopefully his breaking stuff is better than what he showed yesterday. A bit disappointed in what I saw.
    Betances has true power stuff. Best case scenario he’s Ubaldo Jimenez worst case Latroy Hawkins (when he was good). Of course he needs to avoid a serious injury. I hope the Twins were watching his performance today.
    Phelps and Warren looked pretty average to me.
    Warren threw a bit harder and showed better secondary pitches. Trade them and Laird NOW before their stock dips.
    I would’ve liked to see Montero tested with a base runner but he actually caught the pitches that were thrown to him today. Surprising after some of the scouting reports I read this winter.

  29. Sean C says:

    Now, I’m not trying to subvert the values of good pitching and good defense, but whenever I hear that a team is focusing on those aspects as opposed to upgrading offense and it is treated as a new/novel idea, it annoys me. One year it was the Red Sox, this year it’s the A’s. I’d rather have a plus bat with mediocre defense than a black hole in the lineup with great defense. Jorge Posada has never been a defensive whiz, but damn he could(can) hit. Hopefully Montero will fit into this category.

    Speaking of Montero, I was expecting a statue behind the plate today from what I’ve read. He looked pretty comfortable and I liked the sweeping backhand catch on a pitch in the dirt at one point. And the first ball he hit at 3B was a goddamn rocket, just bad luck, and the broken bat single was hit hard as well. Hopefully he can hop to AAA for a while to continue to improve on his defense every day and continue hitting as well as he has, and we’ll see him in the Bronx this summer.

    • The Real JobaWockeeZ says:

      Now, I’m not trying to subvert the values of good pitching and good defense, but whenever I hear that a team is focusing on those aspects as opposed to upgrading offense and it is treated as a new/novel idea, it annoys me.

      Defense is the new OBP. It’s undervalued. It didn’t work out due to injuries but Mike Cameron signed for peanuts compared to what Jason Bay got despite having the higher WAR.

      Obviously no one could have forseen Beltre’s resurgence as a hitter as he was signed for his glove. He got 10 million yes but that’s a bargain for what they got out of him.

      Sure you can argue you have to upgrade the offense before defense but when Jayson Werth is getting a 7 or something year deal then it’s pretty hard to do that.

      • Ted Nelson says:

        Defense may be underrated, but let’s not turn around and overrate it. I absolutely agree with Sean’s original point “I’d rather have a plus bat with mediocre defense than a black hole in the lineup with great defense.”

        “Mike Cameron signed for peanuts compared to what Jason Bay got despite having the higher WAR.”

        That would be great if 4.4 were higher than 5… but it’s not. Bay had been a 5 WAR player 3 of the 4 seasons before he signed. Cameron was a 37 year old CF.

        “Obviously no one could have forseen Beltre’s resurgence as a hitter as he was signed for his glove. He got 10 million yes but that’s a bargain for what they got out of him.”

        It was only a bargain because of his resurgence with the bat. He was better defensively in 2009, but only a 2.5 WAR player because his wOBA was .305. His 4.6 jump in WAR came entirely on offense. His fld fell.

        “Sure you can argue you have to upgrade the offense before defense but when Jayson Werth is getting a 7 or something year deal then it’s pretty hard to do that.”

        Werth has been at 5 WAR for three straight seasons and his wOBA was .400 last season. I’m not saying that was a smart deal, but he’s an elite player. His wOBA has been .382 or above for 4 straight seasons. He was also an above average defender in 08 and 09. You don’t been to add an All-Star to improve your offense.

  30. Pat D says:

    That In Memoriam segment was terrible. At least they had the screen on the whole time, unlike last year or even two years ago, but it was way too brief.

    Nothing against Lena Horne, but to single her out for special recognition isn’t much better than what they did for John Hughes last year. They didn’t do these kind of special tributes for Robert Mitchum, James Stewart, Gregory Peck, Marlon Brando, and Paul Newman in years past. They barely did anything for Katharine Hepburn for Christ’s sake!

    Sorry, rant over.

  31. LEOLUCCA RANDISI says:

    Dellin Betances looked great, Ivan Nova looked really good and if Jorge Vasquez keeps this pace he should be heading north with the Yankees. A prediction, Jesus Montero will be the Yankees back up catcher this year.

  32. Monteroisdinero says:

    Montero’s defense is fine. The only thing I see that may be below average is quickness. Cervelli is quick and his defense was, at best, average last year.

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