Feb
02

Open Thread: Johan Santana

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It’s been a long, long time since we campaigned to Save The Big Three. That was three offseasons ago, when the Yankees (and Red Sox) were talking to the Twins about acquiring two-time (shoulda been three-time) Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana. The rumored package was Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera, Mitch Hilligoss, and Jeff Marquez, though Minnesota was supposedly holding out for Ian Kennedy. Think the Cliff Lee or Andy Pettitte stuff is too much this winter? That was nothing compared to the non-stop Johan rumors, around the clock coverage of a trade we never wanted to happen. Three years ago today, it all came to a merciful end when the Mets officially acquired Santana for what amounted to a package of spare parts.

We were happy, many were not. The Yankees were in clear need of pitching help, moreso than they are right now, and there was Santana, an ace in his prime waiting to be had. Brian Cashman gambled that he could keep his prized young players (though four of those five guys are long gone) and simply buy CC Sabathia as a free agent the next offseason. It was a ballsy and absurdly risky move, but that’s exactly what happened. Less than two years after the Johan non-trade, Sabathia, Hughes, and the rest of the Yankees were parading down the Canyon of Heroes, world champs for the 27th time. They took their lumps along the way, missing the playoffs in 2008, but here they are today with both Sabathia and Hughes headlining their rotation while Johan recovers from major shoulder surgery across town. I don’t think Hollywood could have written a better script.

Here’s your open thread for the evening. The Isles, Nets, and Knicks are all playing, but talk about whatever you want. Go nuts.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

    I’m recently eligible to upgrade to a new phone at discounted pricing on Verizon and pre-orders for the Verizon iPhone start tonight. Right now, I’m rocking an LG enV3 and I’m looking to upgrade to a smartphone and replace the iPod Nano that I lost in September at the same time. The problem is that I’m torn between the iPhone and the many Android phones that are currently available on Verizon.

    So, this is your opportunity to influence my decision. Give me your best arguments for and/or against the iPhone and/or Android.

    Go.

    • Xstar7

      Buy the IPhone. It was here first. The Android is an imitation IPhone. And you can get the IPhone for verizon now.

      • SamVa

        That would have been the basis of my argument as well… And should be the reason why you pick the iPhone.. It’s the original… And with Verizon service it is the best combo of phone/provider available.
        I don’t think there is any reason at all to consider the android UNLESS they practically give you one… and you have to pay upwards of 200 for the iPhone.. then you might have an argument.

      • radnom

        Richard, you haven’t provided enough information for me to give you a recommendation either way but do not listen to this guy. The Android is an imitation IPhone. is nonsense.

        • Esteban

          Give me open app stores or give me death. Also good luck customizing your Iphone without jailbreaking it.

        • SamVa

          how is it nonsense? what came first? the iPhone started it all.. Verizon needed an equivalent= thus we have the Droid.

          • radnom


            how is it nonsense? what came first? the iPhone started it all.. Verizon needed an equivalent= thus we have the Droid.

            All of what you’re saying is. Verizon did not create the droid as an equivalent to the iPhone…actually Verizon had next to ZERO to do with creating Android at all.

            By your logic he should get a rotary phone since it came first all future things were really just copying that.

            • SamVa

              So you are denying the fact that the iPhone came prior to the droid and the droid was a byproduct of such creation?

              • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

                Your argument is that Ford came before Chevy and that Chevy was created as a response to Ford.

                Although it’s true, it doesn’t tell you anything about which is the better product.

                • SamVa

                  Ford.

                  No, but seriously.. I see your point.

                  I guess I was looking at in the sense that usually things that have been around longer have a better track record, but I don’t think I made that clear..
                  I just feel like apple has had more time to work out the flaws of it’s best product.

                • Ultimate Yankee Warrior (James)

                  The Android OS came first:
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.....ng_system)

                  Google bought it in 2005. The iPhone debuted in 2007:
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone

              • radnom

                So you are denying the fact that the iPhone came prior to the droid and the droid was a byproduct of such creation?

                You don’t get it. iPhone was the first consumer targeted smartphone but that doesn’t mean everything that came after is an “imitation iPhone”. They are two wildly different platforms with their own unique advantages/disadvantages.

                What I’m saying is it doesn’t matter which one came out first.

                • AndrewYF

                  The Blackberry actually came before both of them.

                  • radnom

                    Notice I said “consumer targeted”. Blackberries were used mostly by professionals. Only since the iPhone has the smartphone been a hot gadget instead of a boring work device.

        • Bob Stone

          The Motorola Droid or Doid 2 are much better phones than the iphone 3 or 4.

      • pat

        Droid has a slide out keyboard. That’s the most tangible difference. I got the Droid when it first came out and I’ve loved it since then.

        • Bob Stone

          It has a larger display as well.

    • Esteban

      I just got a Droid X and the huge screen is fantastic. Comes with 24 gb total of space and I’m pretty satisfied overall. Given that my previous phone was the god awful Blackberry Storm, almost anything would be an improvement. The Android app market has almost everything the App store, with netflix and hulu apps coming this spring.

      According to Gizmodo, it’s not a great idea to buy an Iphone4 now because Apple unveils a new Iphone every year and you’ll be getting last year’s phone when the new Iphone should come out in June. If having the latest technology doesn’t bother, then it’s probably a matter of aesthetics, and if you want a physical keyboard or not (the Droid 2 does).

      • radnom

        I actually just made the same move you did, from Storm to Droid X.

        But yeah. Holy shit wasn’t the Storm bad? I’m loving my new X too.

        • Esteban

          See the Storm was a real reaction by Verizon to get a touchscreen phone to compete with the Iphone and holy shit did they (and RIM) mess that up. 128 MB Internal storage for applications are you kidding me?

          • radnom

            I think I averaged 8 battery pulls a day when I had that phone.

            And it took like 15 minutes to boot up after a crash too.

            • AndrewYF

              I happened to like the clicky touchscreen. And it was a fun novelty if you couldn’t get an iPhone.

              But yeah, its big improvement over the iPhone (being able to run apps in the background) was its ultimate demise.

              • Esteban

                Yea, I thought I liked the clicky touch screen too, but since I’ve switched to a Droid, I haven’t missed it at all.

            • Esteban

              I missed way too many phone calls when it froze and had to wait 5 minutes to reboot after a batterypull. The quickbatterypull app didn’t even work on my phone. Worst phone ever.

      • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

        I’m actually looking for a phone with a touchscreen keyboard. It’s hard to text or tweet in class with the noise of a physical keyboard.

        I’m also not obsessed with having all the newest tech — I just want to replace the piece of junk I have now and be able to listen to my music again while also having access to Twitter and the Internet on the go.

        • radnom


          I’m also not obsessed with having all the newest tech — I just want to replace the piece of junk I have now and be able to listen to my music again while also having access to Twitter and the Internet on the go.

          As an Android user myself, go with the iPhone.

          You would probably be happy with either though, to be honest. If the price of the iPhone is too much, don’t hesitate to get a (well reviewed) Android phone instead.

        • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala

          If you get an android phone you will love the swype way of texting.

    • Chris

      I don’t own an iPhone nor an Android (although I do have an iPod Touch). I would recommended the iPhone because of its simplicity. Androids seem to be great phones, but the iPhone seems to have the same capabilities (or more) with a much more straightforward user interface, etc…At similar prices, I would go for the iPhone.

      However, it is all a matter of personal preference, so I would do some research on various Androids and the iPhone and determine which one seems more practical for you.

    • radnom

      You have to tell us a little bit about what you’re looking to do with the phone for a good argument. What kind of user are you?

    • mbonzo

      I’m in the same situation as you, I have the Dare. I have been eligible for 6 months now, but I’ve been waiting for the iPhone because it gives me the option to buy one and it’ll bring android prices down if I choose not to. My current phone is starting to not take a charge (I’ve replace the battery many times) and its getting really slow and torn up. I’ve personally decided to go with an iPhone for a few reasons. I don’t like Android phones. There are so many of these Android phones coming out I feel like the new ones are obsolete within a month. I’ve also seen plenty of problems with OS because of its customization. Many phone carriers, especially verizon edit phone operating systems to include their own programs, bloatware. I also happen to think the iPhone syncs easier with computers, and makes it very simple to transfer music.

      The Android phones big plus is the apps, which are generally free or cheaper in comparison to the iPhones. I don’t like the quality of the Android’s apps though, I think Apple does a good job of editing through crappy apps to prevent clutter and possibly buggy software on the phone. I’ve played around with plenty of friends iphones and android phones, and I just really can’t believe how slick the iPhone is in comparison. I hate just about every Apple product, but they really hit the nail on the head with this one. Go iPhone.

      • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

        I’ve been thinking about this a lot. I’m kind of worried about the extensive variation between different phone models and OS versions, as well as those awful customizations that Verizon has a habit of including in phones. I feel that with the iPhone I would know what I’m getting and not have to worry about being left behind the curve when there’a another OS update or about the phone being completely obsolete due to a new model every other month.

        • radnom


          not have to worry about being left behind the curve when there’a another OS update or about the phone being completely obsolete due to a new model every other month.

          Don’t let that sway you to one or the other. Just because the iPhone has a small number of major releases and the Android has many, small improvements doesn’t mean your phone will be obsolete faster. Actually as an Android user you will find that OS updates are pushed onto your phone automatically giving you new features where an iPhone user would have to wait and buy the latest version to experience any real upgrade.


          as well as those awful customizations that Verizon has a habit of including in phones

          I have a Verizon droid and you can remove almost everything. The only Verizon based applications I still have are some games which came with my phone (and I use) and backup assistant, which is actually useful.

    • Jose the Satirist

      You should really do research and use them in person because everyone is different.

      That being said I’m excited for the HTC ThunderBolt coming out on or around Feb 24th. The major benefit that I am interested in is it is a 4G phone. That means faster speeds for data hungry people like me.

      It is supposed to also feature ability to Skype people without being on a WiFi network. It is bringing communication to a new level. As an added bonus for you since you mentioned the music, it is supposed to sound great. It even has a kick stand with built in stereo speakers for a mini music player. It comes with over 32 GB so it is plenty big enough.

      • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

        I used an AT&T iPhone 4 for several days in September when I stole borrowed my cousin’s iPhone, so I do have some experience using one. My Droid is experienced to a few minutes in a Verizon Store playing with the Droid 2 right after it came out.

        4G will be nice, for sure, but isn’t it being rolled out only in major cities right now? I live in Central Jersey so I don’t think that I’m in a coverage area.

        • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

          “My Droid is experienced to” == “My Droid experience is limited to”

          I miss comment editing.

        • Jose the Satirist

          Try here to find out if you are in the coverage area:
          http://network4g.verizonwireless.com/coverage

          • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

            I’m surprised — I’m actually in the coverage area. I’ll have to do more research on that phone.

            • twac00

              I have a hunch that the iPhone 5 will be 4G.

    • KRM

      I just went to the verizon store to discuss this very same topic. I was 99% sure I wanted the Iphone, until I heard about the Thunderbolt. It’s a new Verizon 4G (Iphone is 3g) and comes standard 32 gig (Iphone you have to upgrade for that). Also, you cannot insure the Iphone. I will be going with the Thunderbolt, which will be released the same day as the Iphone. Basically it’s an HTC droid, so you have the market, but it has the same touch screen interface as the Iphone so it’s just as smooth. I recommend going to your nearest verizon store to learn more.

    • Ryan

      Get the iphone for the At Bat App that supports live game video.

    • whozat

      Disclaimer: I work at Google

      I have a Nexus S from work and an iPhone 4 I bought myself. There are things I love about each.

      Android:
      1) The gmail app for Android is GREAT. On my iPhone I read my gmail with Mail and it works fine. I use the web-based gmail too, and it works fine. If you’re a GMail user, this is a big point on the Android side. If you’re not, Apple’s Mail client is probably a little bit nicer.

      2) Maps on Android > Maps on iPhone. You get spoken turn-by-turn directions on one, not on the other. The Android version is also more responsive.

      iPhone:
      1) iTunes integration. That’s where I keep all my music, where my podcast subscriptions are, etc. I have no interest in trying to shoehorn that onto my Android phone.

      2) The Apple address book is way nicer than Android’s, which syncs with Google Contacts. Contacts is broken and crufty and generates duplicate entries all the time.

      3) Mobile Safari is just better than the Android Browser. The UI is simply more polished.

      In the end, the decision was kind of made by the fact that I’m grandfathered into the uncapped 3g data plan on AT&T and have a cheap family voice plan. If not for that, I might very well have made the jump to the android phone. I spend more time in GMail and my RSS reader app than I do browsing at this point, so the experience on my Nexus S is really good in a lot of ways.

      So it kind of depends. If you’re not a GMail user, you have a lot of content that you manage in iTunes, or you expect to spend a lot of time browsing the web (as opposed to doing gmail/facebook/RSS-reading in a dedicated app), definitely go iPhone. if you’re a heavy GMail user, mostly just have MP3s, and every website you like has a nice mobile interface…give the Android phones a long look.

      • Esteban

        Oooh Mr. Smarty Pants works at google.

        Haha, your points seem very reasonable and accurate. One thing about Android is the cut and paste function doesn’t seem that well developed/ easy to use.

        • whozat

          Totally. It behaves differently across apps somewhat too. They promised us a fix in an upcoming release :-)

      • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

        Wow, thanks for this.

        Gmail form and functionality is very important to me. I use Gmail exclusively to manage several personal and college email accounts, so this is definitely a contributing factor to my decision.

        I don’t drive, so I can’t imagine that the turn-by-turn directions could be a deal-breaker.

        Regarding the iPhone points, I keep all my music in iTunes. There are probably better options, but I’ve always used it and I don’t plan on changing. I’m also a heavy web-browser so the browser functionality is very important to me.

        Regarding the data plan, Verizon has said that new iPhone users will be able to sign up for unlimited date plans. I don’t think (I may be wrong) Android users have that option. This is obviously also a big factor.

        • whozat

          I can’t speak to the VZW specifics :-/

          Re: the multiple gmail accounts, though, the Android gmail app does great with that (and it does all the gmail threading stuff, and starring and all that).

          The Apple Mail client integrates pretty well with Gmail, but it’s not amazing. I think it’ll do multiple mailboxes on different accounts, but I’m not positive.

          RE: the browser…I’m a heavy web user myself. But, between RAB, Fark and the Onion adding solid mobile sites and my RSS reader…I find myself consuming lots of web content without really noticing that I’m in a web browser. It used to be that I did a lot of zooming (an area where safari kicks the android browser’s butt) on pages, because they weren’t sized for my screen, but now…I just don’t do that all that much.

          Anyway, my decision was mostly governed by contract terms, and it sounds like yours will be too. I think you’ll be pretty happy no matter which way you go. Like someone said above, when I got my first smartphone it was like my life was different. It was glued to my hand in a matter of weeks:-P If you do get an Android phone, do your due diligence and get a nicely reviewed one. There’s been fragmentation in the market, to the point that not all phones can run all apps, some use a totally different UI, and some have more crapware than others.

          • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

            If the unlimited data plan isn’t an option for Android phones, then I will definitely be going with the iPhone. If it is, I’ll check out the reviews of the Android phones before making a decision. At this point, though, I think I’m leaning towards the iPhone.

            • Andy in NYC

              OK, so I’m late to the party here, but I’m writing this on my unlimited-data-plan Verizon Droid X- which I love. Try one before you decide.

    • David

      I’ll give you my own experience. I have an iPhone 4. It is an awesome little computer. The operating system is beautifully integrated. It does everything very well, and I have access to what I want to sync from my large iTunes collection. However, it is not good as a phone. My wife and I travel a lot, and the AT&T coverage is very spotty, resulting in lots of dropped calls, some of which are serious business calls.

      My strategy is to wait for iPhone 5, buy that, and switch to Verizon at the same time. This would likely be in June.

  • @TheDog_man

    At the time I remember comparing that trade to being offered Pedro Martinez for Bernie Williams and Mariano Rivera in 1995.

    A lot of people would have been for that trade at the time. (The same people who were for this deal!)

  • Jose the Satirist

    Mariano Rivera got more first place votes than Santana did in 2005. That just doesn’t make sense to me. Santana deserved to win the Cy Young three years in a row.

  • Teh Comp Pick

    If Joba panned out…that woulda made for a better script. Not saying he won’t be an elite reliever (crosses fingers), but his days as a starter in the Bronx are done.

    • SamVa

      Wait Joba isn’t starting anymore?

      /obligatory’d

    • The Big City of Dreams

      I think the script is already better based on the fact Santana has dealt with injuries every yr since he was traded.

  • Avi

    I don’t think Burnett for Johan is a terrible idea.
    If you include the $5M buyout for 2014, Santana’s contract is $8M more than Burnett’s in average annual value (if my math is correct).

    • Jose the Satirist

      Santana still owed: $77.5M
      Burnett still owed: $49.5M

      Santana status: Hurt shoulder
      Burnett status: Healthy

      • Avi

        Burnett: Sucks (replacement level)
        Santana: Still effective

        If the Mets throw some money which I don’t think is out of the realm of possibility, it makes it even more realistic.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          We have no idea if Santana is still effective. Shoulder surgery changes everything. And why would the Mets do this? To save maybe $10M?

          • Avi

            Yeah, with the Madoff stuff they might be desperate for cash. They’re not going anywhere anyway so why not save 10-20 mil over the next 3 years?

            • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

              The Wilpons are so desperate for cash that they might have to sell the team. Saving $10 million over a few years isn’t going to help much.

        • Avi

          If you look at Burnett’s career he’s just as likely to get hurt and spend substantial time on the DL as Johan is, over the next 3 years.

          • http://www.twitter.com/deanezag Zack

            Johan has had 2 surgeries to his pitching arm in the last 2 seasons.

            AJ hasn’t been on the DL since 2007. Where he had a shoulder strain, that Toronto rushed him back from and ended up missing more time. Before that it was a scar tissue issue in 2006, from his 2003 TJS.

        • Jose the Satirist

          That is a risky bet that he will still be effective. He already is missing half of 2011. Rotator cuff surgery is serious stuff for a pitcher.

          • Avi

            I don’t think he had rotator cuff surgery, which is the worst kind for a pitcher. Had something to do with the shoulder capsule. I’m not familiar with the procedure, just throwing an idea out there..

            • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

              He had the same surgery Chien-Ming Wang had, though Wang’s tear was more significant.

              • Avi

                I see. Pretty serious.

      • radnom

        If we are in the end of July and Santana looks healthy and AJ performs to 2010 levels……I’d do it. I think.

        • Avi

          Yeah you can’t trade a player that’s on the DL anyway. So this isn’t relevant till he gets back. This also means the cost difference is narrowed slightly too.

    • jay destro

      this makes zero sense and you should stick to ps3

      • radnom

        this comment didn’t contribute to the conversation at all and you should stick to muttering to yourself in your bedroom

        See how that feels?

        • jay destro

          i mutter to myself mostly on the toilet.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Am I the only one who hates churros? #TOTALLYRANDOM

    • radnom

      I’ve honestly never had one in my (almost) 24 years of existence.

      Its not really on my list either.
      The next food item I still need to try for the first time is Nutella.

      • Xstar7

        Nutella is great. It’s supposedly a hazelnut spread but tastes just like chocolate. It’s great slathered on bread.

        • radnom

          I have never met anyone that did not like Nutella, but I know I’m not alone in never having had it.

          Honestly I never even heard of it until college. Is it more popular in certain regions?

          • Xstar7

            I have no idea. I had never heard of it actually until a couple of months ago when a relative of mine got me some.

            • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

              I’m twenty-one and I’ve never had it. I had never even heard of it until about a year ago.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        Nutella is the nectar of the gods. Churros are overfried, greasy yuckiness.

        • radnom

          I guess the real question is do I start with the regular or the chocolate.

          Well that, and what the heck do I put it on. Bread?

          • SamVa

            i’m joining you.. for some reason i have never tried Nutella either.

            • radnom


              i’m joining you.. for some reason i have never tried Nutella either.

              There is this weird thing about Nutella….honestly its so easy to find people who have never tried it and I don’t know why. But I’ve never found anyone who disliked it.

              • SamVa

                yeah, it’s weird.. Everyone I know who has tried it is like addicted to it.. I feel like maybe I should try it…

              • Captain Bawls

                The lady I fancied for a while last summer wasn’t a fan. It was a deal breaker for me.

          • vin

            Oh come on, coast-to-coast…

            Nutella gelato is the greatest:

            http://www.foodnetwork.com/rec.....index.html

            • radnom


              Oh come on, coast-to-coast…

              haha are you referring back to this?

              I’m afraid it wasn’t my story, I tried to use to “cite” tag but only the first paragraph was italicized.

              http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....nt-1614863

              • vin

                I’m attributing it to you anyway.

                Oh, the horror and humiliation of high school.

                • radnom

                  Haha thats cool, I just didn’t want to take credit for someone elses (hilarious) story.

        • Esteban

          But have you ever had churros con chocolate in Spain? Crazy delicious.

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

            Yeah, I was in Spain for a semester in college. It’s just gross. Love chocolate, hate fried things.

            • Esteban

              Well then, I can’t help you.

            • Esteban

              On that note, one of my favorite moments of my semester abroad in Spain was eating churros con chocolate at about 5am after spending a drunken night at the feria de Sevilla and somehow finding my pension where I slept on the roof.

          • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

            Oh yeah. MMM.

    • pat

      I love churros except when they’re served to me on a subway platform.

      • RalphieD

        the lady that wheels them around in a shopping cart?

    • Xstar7

      Yes you are. Churros are fantastic

    • vin

      Do you hate puppies too? What are your thoughts on rainbows and winning lottery tickets?

      • Esteban

        Probably hates brownies and sunshine too.

      • Nigel Bangs

        My thoughts precisely.

    • pete

      am I the only one who has no idea what a churro is?

      • Esteban
      • Slurve

        You should try dipping your churro in Nutella.

        • Monteroisdinero

          Nutella is like butter spread on toast in Italy. lived there years ago and that’s what folks did. Highly addictive.

  • icebird753

    This Santana story makes me hungry. Quiero un burrito. How’s Taco Bell, any good?

    • radnom

      Yes, excellent. I just hope your ass it up to the abuse its going to take in a few hours.

    • Teh Comp Pick

      Best fastfood = Wendy’s. Have not tried five guys, I’ve been on a health food kick since I heard of it months ago. Lived out west for a little while, and In n Out while good is vastly overrated. Chipotle holds a special place in my heart.

      • radnom


        In n Out while good is vastly overrated

        You bite your tounge!

        Wendy’s has the best chicken by far, but cannot compete with In n Out for burgers.

        • Teh Comp Pick

          Your correct. In n out burgers> Wendy’s burgers but I don’t know of an In n Out in NY. Wendy’s is extremely legit for what it is.

      • Xstar7

        Wendy’s is the food of champions.

      • vin

        In N Out is top-notch. I’ve eaten my fair share of Chipotle in my life, and I can honestly say I prefer Cafe Rio better. They’re not too huge yet – only in CA, NV, UT, AZ, CO, and ID. Keep an eye out for them.

        • Esteban

          Qdoba is good too.

          • vin

            It’s OK. But I think it ranks firmly behind Chipotle. They do have a good quesadilla though.

      • Esteban

        5 Guys is quite delicious.

        • Sean C

          A five guys just opened a few months ago in my town. There has pretty much been a line out the door ever since. Crazy good burgers.

          • Esteban

            And ha never order large fries because if you do, they’ll give you enough fries to feed a family of four for two weeks.

    • Esteban

      Taco Bell has a lawsuit against it because supposedly the call their meat “beef” while the plaintiffs claim it’s only 36% beef.

      http://gizmodo.com/5742413/thi.....bells-beef

      • NJYankeeFan

        Geez that’s scary. They’re probably feeding us the equivalent of Alpo. I wonder how much of their bean burrito is beans?

        • radnom

          Don’t be so quick to buy into the FUD.

          http://eater.com/archives/2011.....w-suit.php

          • Esteban

            Yea, well I didn’t believe the 36% claim, but I don’t particularly believe the 88% either. Whatever, I eat Taco Bell on occasion (love the Crunch Wrap Supreme, and their healthy menu isn’t too bad) and I’ll continue to eat there occasionally.

  • NJYankeeFan

    If the Mets were willing to salary dump Santana and eat lets say 50% of his contract and not ask for any of the Killer B’s, Montero, Sanchez or Stoneburner back in return and Santana was throwing effectively, I’d take a chance on him. The Mets would never trade him to the Yanks though because of all the heat they’d take if he pitched well.

    • vin

      They’d have no real reason to trade him. I presume “throwing effectively” means he’s worth at least 12-13 million dollars, which is what they be giving the Yankees to take him away. Also, they wouldn’t be getting any of the Yanks’ best prospects.

      All that plus Mets-Yankee trades are pretty rare.

      • NJYankeeFan

        Who knows what’s gonna happen with this Madoff business. If the Mets are really financially strapped or if the Wilpons are going to sell controlling shares, they may want to get payroll down to rock bottom. I agree the Yanks would be the last place they’d send him.

        • Big Apple

          this madoff thing is getting worse by the minute. i don’t think the mets will care where they send players.

          • NJYankeeFan

            Yeah hopefully. I love to see the Mets suffer. Too bad John Henry didn’t get sucked into the deal.

            • Esteban

              Ha I don’t hate the Mets, and I feel bad for them most of the time. Their fans on the other hand…

              • NJYankeeFan

                Nah, I hate em. I hope they have to cut their payroll back to Tampa bay’s level. I hate them and their ballpark with that ridiculous Jackie Robinson Rotunda. I must have missed the part of history when Jackie Robinson was a Met.

                • Esteban

                  I don’t begrudge them for honoring Jackie Robinson. He was a big part of NY baseball and the Mets claim the legacy of the Dodgers/Giants as the NL’s NY representative.

  • SamVa

    Random, but has anyone seen/heard

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNQWQSwmow

    (sfw)

    Kind of a cool song baseball wise.

    • Xstar7

      Being a Mariners fan must suck in reality though. Their best players all left them. Randy Johnson, Alex Rodriguez, Ken Griffey Jr. (although Griffey did come back.) Even though they won that playoff series in 1995 against the Yankees the Mariners ended up losing in the ALCS. And the very next year the team they eliminated threw a no-hitter against them and wound up winning the World Series. I mean sure they’ve got Ichiro who is probably going to be a first-ballot hall of famer, and Felix who is the best pitcher in the American league, but they still managed to be the worst team in the american league last year. And’s let’s not even mention 2001 when they had the best regular season ever only to lose to the Yankees in the ALCS.

    • Esteban

      I don’t like that they mention the ’95 ALDS

  • http://www.blogs.thetenthinningstretch.com the tenth inning stretch

    How did I go 24 years without ever watching Groundhog Day? Watched it last night for the first time and it’s an instant favorite.

    • Jose the Satirist

      When you start to think about how many years he must of been there to learn all his talents and memorize the days it develops deeper meaning for me. How many years did it take before he went to depression and managed to try so many painful ways to kill himself? Did he turn to violence towards others? Maybe he was a monster on some days.

      I really think you could write a thesis on that movie.

  • bonestock94

    Buying an iphone at 3 am tonight. I know I’m gonna get screwed when all the sweet 4g dual core androids and iphone 5 come out. My current phone is completely busted though, and I can’t fight the smartphone itch anymore.

    • Esteban

      Buy a cheap phone to get you over until June and the Iphone 5

      • bonestock94

        I can’t do it anymore, I really need the convenience of being able to check my email and shit right now. If the 5 is that dramatic of an upgrade I can always sell the 4 for a good price, they seem to hold value pretty well.

  • Big Apple

    i just got an iphone 2 weeks ago. my old phone was over 4 yrs old.. a flip LG. I was happy with it as my goddamn figners are too big to type with and i’m not that crazy about seeing videos/pictures on a small screen.

    the iphone is the shit…it is as advertised. very easy to use..almost too easy. i’ve had it two weeks and i would say I can’t live with out it. the setup was easy and it psynchs perfectly with outlook…i’m sofa kind connected now I don’t know what to do with myself!

    i don’t know anything about the droid, but you can’t go wrong with the iphone…i think the only issue is it doesn’t have the flash player.

    • Esteban

      Right, you can download flash with Android. No flash videos on the Iphone (or any iOS device)

  • Esteban

    Those new NBA commercials with the stars as High Schoolers are fantastic.

    • Xstar7

      They’re pretty cool but I have a little trouble believing they are legit.

      • Esteban

        What to you mean ‘legit?’ It’s clearly just random video of them with the actor edited in to make it look like he’s there. I think they’re quite well done.

        • Teh Comp Pick

          Lol’ed

    • Teh Comp Pick

      Agreed. Seen Stat and KD, any others?

      • Esteban

        They have a Nash one, and I just saw one for CP3

  • Esteban

    Hey look, NYC has banned smoking in public parks and beaches. As someone who has never smoked and hates smoking, I think this is ridiculous.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....-and-parks

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      +1

    • Sean C

      So, is there anywhere people can smoke in NYC now? I’d ask my cousin that lives in the city, but then he’d go into an hour long “social engineering” and “government over-regulating” rant. I’m not a fan of those.

      • Esteban

        I guess your apartment or house, but I heard of a lawsuit where somebody was suing a neighbor in an apartment building because the smoke (or the smell) at least traveled between apartments.

        • Sean C

          Sadly that lawsuit doesn’t surprise me. When I watch games on YES at my parents’ house, I see all of these rough NY anti-smoking ads. We don’t really have ads like those here in IL (or at least downstate IL anyway). We have the restaurant/business/bar smoking legislation here, but there are handfuls of bars that you can still smoke in without any trouble. Our police have better things to do than write people tickets for smoking.

          • Esteban

            Yeah, well Mayor Bloomberg has an expansive view of the role of the city in promoting or protecting public health.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      Totally agreed on all points.

    • pete

      meh. anything that hurts the cigarette industry is fine by me

  • Esteban

    Knicks are falling apart in the game wtf. Score a basket please.

    • Esteban

      Unbelievable from down 4 at the half to down 24 in the 3rd. No offense and no defense. Disgusting.

  • Esteban

    Bieber mania at the Knicks’ game. He’s sitting next to Henrik Lunquist. Little girl is crying after seeing him. Crowd gave him a mixed reaction.

    • The Real JobaWockeeZ

      Any boos?

      • Esteban

        Probably mostly boos from the dudes and mostly cheers from the women

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      I would cry over seeing Henrik, insert drooling here

      • http://www.twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

        Henrik is a sexier man than Pettitte

        *ducks*

  • Cy Pettitte

    MLBTR says yankees still in the mix for Millwood

    this is like Pokemon for Cashman with shitty pitchers, gotta catch em all

    • The Real JobaWockeeZ

      Yeah but if we catch them all then there’s a chance one of them can evolve into a beast. All Magicarp suck but they can evolve to Gyrados and because super fucking win.

      /ner’d

    • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

      Hey they can’t all suck.
      right?

    • Mattchu12

      If we throw enough crap against the wall, something will stick. Probably.

  • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

    Since we seem to be doing a lot of random shit tonight:

    WE MISS YOU TSJC

    does anyone keep in contact with him? when’ll he be back?

    • http://www.twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

      I hope by ST =(

  • bonestock94

    Screw it, bring on Millwood for a minor league deal. Who cares lol.

  • Rey22

    Any White Stripes fans out there? Sad to see them go.

    • http://www.twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

      Holy crap! I’m sad now!

      I loved the White Stripes, tomorrow I will listen to my favorite album by them, Elephant, in their memory.

  • http://www.thesubwayconnection.com Alex Taffet

    For all of you talking about phones, here.
    http://www.pomegranatephone.com/

    • Esteban

      Nova Scotia? Seriously?

  • A-rod#1fan

    I see edwardo nuñez as every day Yankees short stop by 2013.

  • A-rod#1fan

    I see edwardo nuñez as every day Yankees short stop by 2013…..

    • mbonzo

      I puked in my mouth a little.

    • Sean C

      Ugh, I’m not sure how many other people see/want to see that.

  • PaulF

    I miss baseball so damn much. I hate winter.

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