Betances to miss a start due to blister

The RAB Radio Show: April 14, 2011
Bad Process vs. Bad Results

Via Mike Ashmore and Josh Norris, Double-A Trenton has placed right-hander Dellin Betances on the disabled list with a blister on his pitching hand. VP of Baseball Operations Mark Newman confirmed the injury and said he expects him to miss “a start.” Betances is no stranger to the DL of course; he’s missed time in all four of his full professional seasons with injuries, sometimes an elbow, sometimes a shoulder, but in this case it was just a blister. I guess he’s just got to break out the pickle juice a little more often.

The RAB Radio Show: April 14, 2011
Bad Process vs. Bad Results
  • Esteban

    Hopefully it doesn’t become a blister ‘problem’

  • Steve H

    Thankfully this is a minor issue, but it would have been prudent to at least investigate his trade value in the offseason (which it’s very possible they did), as he was healthy and was throwing strikes. His trade value is more likely to fall than rise going forward. I wouldn’t have traded him just for the sake, but in the right deal I wouldn’t be upset if they moved him at peak value.

    • RL

      His trade value is more likely to fall than rise going forward.

      Based on what? If he has a strong season at AA, get’s prompted to AAA and does well, will his trade value fall? I see nothing to support this comment and think their is equal probability that his trade value will remain the same or rise as there is that it will fall. This is a blister issue.

      • Steve H

        He’s considered one of the top prospects in baseball who finally started throwing strikes last year, which was a big boost to his status. He still has a ton of question marks, and his health is at the forefront of that. I think he’s much more likely to take a step or two back then to take steps forward. He doesn’t have too many steps to take forward, he can easily (if he reverts to the rest of his minor league career) step way back. I’d say the same thing about Banuelos and Montero, but they have less question marks and are closer to being major league ready. Still, as top 20 prospects in baseball, their trade value is more likely to drop than rise, but they are more of “sure things” than Betances is. The blister isn’t what prompted these thoughts from me, I’ve felt this way all along.

        • AndrewYF

          You can extend this logic to any prospect in baseball.

          Far-away prospects: Sure, they have the promise now, but because most far-away prospects fail it’s more likely these guys will fail than succeed.

          Mid-level prospects: They’ve had some success to go along with their good talent so they have a high trade value. But because most mid-level prospects fail, their trade value will more likely decrease than rise.

          On-the-cusp prospects: They’ve had a whole lot of success in the minor leagues and are ready to make the next step. But because most prospects fail, their trade value will most likely decrease upon promotion to the major leagues.

          Most prospects fail. Betances is no different. You can’t trade them all away just because it’s more likely than not they’ll lose value down the road.

          • Steve H

            Not all prospects in baseball have battled constant injury problems and poor command.

            • AndrewYF

              Actually, I’m pretty sure every prospect has battled poor command. And anyone not named Tim Lincecum has battled some kind of injury.

              Betances’ health record is spottier than most, but doesn’t this mean he’s not nearly at ‘peak’ value? Teams will only look at his time missed and this devalues him. Considering that his injury was fixed by something like Tommy John surgery, a highly successful surgical procedure, wouldn’t it make more sense for him to prove that he’s healthy? But then if that’s the case, might he have more value to the Yankees?

              It’s a tightrope to be sure. I just don’t see Betances as a lesser risk/return ratio on the trade market than Montero or Banuelos. His risk is greater and the return will thus be smaller. Unless you’re trading with Kenny Williams, you’re not going to hoodwink GMs.

              • Steve H

                In 2009 he had a 5.48 ERA and 5.5 BB/9
                In 2010 he had a 2.11 ERA and 2.3 BB/9

                He improved leaps and bounds in 2010. His prospect status shot through the roof. He could continue to go higher. With his history and his red flags, I think it’s safe to say we has further to drop than rise.

          • Ted Nelson

            You can’t trade them all away, but the Yankees do end up trading some of them away. Picking the right guys to trade away can make a huge difference in a franchise’s future. Certainly luck is involved, but also skill.

            Betances makes sense *if* you can find a team who values him really highly. With his injury, control, and refinement issues plus the quality of player you’d be looking to bring back… that may be easier said than done. He has to actively improve things that plenty of players never improve to come close to his potential, while Montero has to just become passable defensively (sure his strengths have to transfer to MLB, but so do Betances’) and Banuelos just seems to need a little more experience and stamina. I think his value is more volatile and the Yankees could possibly take advantage of that if they found a team that was really sold on him and had something of value available (a young-ish #1 or #2 starter probably…).

    • ROBTEN

      On the one hand, if any of the killer Bs are traded I wouldn’t be surprised if, given his injury history, it’s Betances. He seems to me to be the one who, despite having tremendous upside, might be the one least likely to reach his potential simply because he’s had some difficulty remaining on the field. (Much like Garcia, Horne, and other pitching prospects who couldn’t remain healthy enough to ever reach their potential.)

      On the other hand, as you point out, it may be that the Yankees looked into his value during the off-season and found that until he can remain healthy other teams can use his injury history, rightly or wrongly, to lower his value, and thus can’t get in return what he is really worth.

      Since he’s been a prospect favorite of mine, I’d ultimately like to see the Yankees hold on to him, but I wouldn’t be upset either if he’s moved in the right deal. He’s still too far away to risk holding on to if the right deal comes along.

      • Ted Nelson

        “teams can use his injury history”

        + lack of control + lack of refinement… If the Yankees are still very high on Betances, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are plenty of teams who aren’t as high on him.

    • Ted Nelson

      I agree, but I’m sure Cashman did get an idea of his trade value… or at least of whether anyone was available for whom he’d trade Betances and what Betances’ value was to those teams.

      The problem is that there’s probably a limited number of guys the Yankees would trade him for. Being a top prospect you’re fairly limited to solid MLB contributors and up anyway… otherwise you could just trade a lesser prospect or sign an equivalent player in FA. On top of that the only real need on the roster was SP (once they re-signed Jeter). So, you’re mostly looking at above average starting pitchers available in a trade. Limited market. I would imagine Betances name might have come up in any Greinke discussions or calls Cashman made to inquire about top-of-the-rotation starters who weren’t dealt. The odds of actually striking such a deal, though, aren’t that great in any one offseason. Even when you get to a Marcum-level starter, a fine starter to be sure, I don’t think it’s entirely clear whether you include Betances (and Cashman’s recent experience dealing Arodys for Javy might have made him especially cautious about who he was getting back).

  • Mattpat11

    I’m pretty sure the proper term is “avulsion caused by a defective baseball”

    /Peter Gammons

  • Pat D

    He should put some Windex on it.

  • Brian

    same thing happened to Banuelos

  • Joseph Cecala

    He should pee on his hands, like Posada