Fan Confidence Poll: April 4th, 2011

Hughes ineffective, Yanks drop first of season, 10-7
Should the Yankees be more aggressive on the bases?

Record Last Week: 2-1 (23 RS, 19 RA)
Season Record: 2-1 (23 RS, 19 RA, 2-1 pythag. record), 1.0 game back
Opponents This Week: vs. Twins (four games, Mon. to Thurs.), @ Red Sox (three games, Fri. to Sun.)

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Hughes ineffective, Yanks drop first of season, 10-7
Should the Yankees be more aggressive on the bases?
  • A.D.

    prompting Brian Cashman to say he was “abused” during his time with the Mets.

    Interesting for Cash to say this given it’s pretty obvious, and the Yanks could have just not signed Feliciano

    • bonestock94

      I kinda have to agree with that Mets coach that said that Cashman has been saying weird stuff lately.

      • Chris

        Cashmnan’s been honest. I know it sounds weird for someone to actually say what everyone knows they’re thinking…

        • Ross in Jersey

          It was unnecessary. Why did he have to say anything at all? Making negative comments about a player’s treatment on another team only serves to upset that team and beg the question why you decided to sign a guy with a questionable past.

          Don’t get me wrong, I love when Cashman goes all “bitch please” on the media but this was an occasion where he should have kept his mouth shut.

          • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            It was unnecessary. Why did he have to say anything at all?

            A.) He was asked and
            B.) His answer wasn’t controversial.

            The Yankees know Feliciano was abused. The Mets knew Feliciano was abused. The media knows Feliciano was abused. The fans know Feliciano was abused. Feliciano knows he was abused.

            This is the least controversial controversy of the year (so far).

            • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

              Without getting into whether Cashman should have said what he said, I think another interesting aspect of this little issue is that, if I was a Mets fan, I’d be pretty alarmed, to say the least, by Warthen’s reaction. Do the Mets base their pitcher-usage patterns on how much the pitcher wants to pitch? That’s disconcerting, to say the least.

              • Mike Axisa

                Furthermore, what pitcher doesn’t want to pitch every day? At some point it’s up to the team to say “no.”

                • MannyGeee

                  +1… a pitcher wants to pitch.

                  unless his name starts in Carl Pavano

              • king of fruitless hypotheticals

                If you were a Mets fan, you wouldn’t have a clue what that meant!

                On a serious note, are there a lot of sabremetrically-inclined Mets fans, or do they end up self-immolating?

            • Ross in Jersey

              I agree that this is overblown. I just think he could have just worded it a bit more carefully to a) avoid confrontation and b) avoid appearing silly for signing him.

              Again though, not a huge deal.

              • Mike HC

                I don’t ever like when Cashman gets chippy with the media and don’t think he comes off well with his new found honesty.

                Cash is obviously agitated over the injury, and lashed out at the Mets. It is that simple.

              • steve s

                If this was an isolated one time statement then sure it’s not a big deal. When seen in the context of his entire off-season of controversial “honest to a fault” statements it’s not crazy to question what’s going on with this guy and that sort of makes it a bigger deal.

    • Mike HC

      Cash obviously got agitated over the injury and said something that was true, but unnecessary. The injury got to him.

  • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    I was going to vote my usual 8, but with these bizarre changes to The Great Subway Race, how can anyone have any confidence in anything, ever?

    Confidence level: -0.

    • Accent Shallow

      Subway race changes are massively positive. I mean, the B winning? The D being blue? Bullshit.

  • Monteroisdinero

    8. If Nova performs well and Gardy can figure out how to steal first base, 9.

    • dave

      Brett “I can’t hit the ball out of the infield” Gardner will be stealing first base this year just like he did the second half of last year. In the .230’s, so just get use to it.

      • It’sATarp

        He also had a .366 OBP, so i’ll take that

      • Monteroisdinero

        I’m more concerned about Jeter unable to get the ball out of the infield.

  • steve s

    Other than job burnout I can’t figure out why Cashman continues to have his finger on the self-destruct button. I voted 8 for the on-the field performance with a -1 demerit for Cashman’s ridiculous comment.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Yankees reliever Pedro Feliciano was ‘abused’ by Mets, GM Brian Cashman says
      By Conor Orr and Andy McCullough/The Star-Ledger

      NEW YORK — Yankees GM Brian Cashman said the Mets seriously overused relief pitcher Pedro Feliciano last season.

      The comment came after he was asked if there was a heightened concern about Feliciano’s left arm injury because of the season where he appeared in a career-high 92 games with the Mets last year, throwing 62? innings.

      “He was abused,” Cashman said this afternoon. “Listen, I don’t know, the concern is based on the MRI. The use pattern was abusive, but the MRI itself shows what he’s got. And that leads us to believe all that is resolvable and that it’s not a major issue, just a timing issue.”

      Feliciano is slated to start playing catch Wednesday, and did not blame the Mets for his arm troubles when asked today.

      Dan Warthen, the Mets’ pitching coach, said that this is all information the Yankees knew when they signed him and that none of the innings Feliciano pitched was forced.

      “He volunteered for the baseball every day,” Warthen said. “He was asked whether he was able to pitch. He said ‘Yes’ every day. Every day. And wanted to pitch more than we even pitched him. So I feel badly that someone feels that way. But that was part of the reason that we decided not to re-sign him, because we knew we had used him 270-some times in the last three years.”

      Cashman said Feliciano is in the middle of a three- to four-week recovery process. This starts with a long-toss program on flat ground, then half mound, then full mound. Eventually, he’ll throw batting practice and rehab games.

      Right now, there’s a vague timetable for his return between late April and early May. Feliciano said that he’s feeling great today and that all aspects of his rehab are on schedule.

      “I don’t know yet, he was shut down for 10 days since we left Florida,” Cashman said. “He’s not doing anything for those 10 days other than treatment and then he’ll start a throwing program. He’s a situational lefty; it’s not like he needs to get stretched out or anything. When he’s healthy and ready, he can go.”

      Of course, like Warthen said, all this information was available upon Feliciano’s signing. Cashman cited the weak market for left-handed relievers as his main reason for taking the risk.

      “It’s a thin market when you’re out there looking for lefties, and he’s one of the better ones out there,” he said. “But you don’t typically run to sign up guys that have been used like that.”

      He acknowledged that the team knew it was a risky signing going in due to his heavy workload and stated that the team did a cost-benefit analysis and determined the risk was one worth taking due to Feliciano’s unique skill set in the reliever market and the team’s 2011 bullpen plan.

      And the team that abused him refused to call it abuse (for obvious legal reasons) but also acknowledged the high workload made him risky which is why their own internal cost-benefit analysis (largely influenced by their inability to compete in 2011, I’d surmise) lead them to pass.

      I fail to see what of any of that is “ridiculous”. He’s being honest, and he’s not saying anything that anyone else is refuting.

      Big whoop.

      • MannyGeee

        “He volunteered for the baseball every day,” Warthen said.

        Is this the baseball equivilent of “She was asking for it?” It just sounds scummy

        • MannyGeee

          not that i am a proponent of date rape or LOOGY overuse… jus sayin

          • JMK

            I was going to make a Josh Leuke joke but he’s not a LOOGY…

        • CMP

          That just shows you the mindset of these coaches, many of whom don’t give a crap about the well being of their players. Their number one objective is to win games so they won’t lose their jobs.

          • king of fruitless hypotheticals

            see also, entirely too many college coaches AND everyone that proposes using metal bats in little league

            • CS Yankee

              Little League went to metal due to the concerns of wood bats breaking…once most of the metal bats went to a drop 13 with flex on the handle (thus making good bat speed for a 10 year old) they corrected to a drop 3 being the max for metal.

              The move was noble not evil and is hopefully corrected…move along.

  • AndrewYF

    Holding steady at an 8. Liking what I’ve been seeing out of every position player except Jeter. Gardner has been cold too, but at least has shown an ability to get to baseballs that aren’t hit directly at him.

    Although I should be at a 4 since the Red Sox are well on their way to repeating the Yankees’ 1998 season. Did you know they also started 0-3? The Red Sox are clearly far too talented to not win 100 games, so the only conclusion we can draw is that they’re reenacting a 114-win season. I mean, come on, They’re All In!

  • CMP

    Position players except Jeter and Garder looked great.
    Very worried about Hughes though who the Yankees need to take the next step forward given the weakness in the rotation.

  • Matt :: Sec110

    Voted a 6…would have been a 7, but I deducted a point because of the whoring out of the Great City Subway Race….is nothing sacred?!?!

  • Camilo Gerardo

    9, Jeter and Gardner will not live up to my expectations

  • Reggie C.


    Hughes appeared in spring training mode and suffered for it. The lineup looks potent. Dj looks laughably bad in the field, but hey … not everything is going to be hit at the shortstop. Just waiting for the minor league season to start.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    Really at a 6.5ish, but closer to a 7. Hughes kinda blew, that hurt my confidence. Jeter and Gardner are off to a poor starts. I know it’s early, but I have concerns about those two at the top of the line up long term. AJ I’m still a bit worried about, Hughes needs to be able to put hitters away and they’ll probably be the best in the East. Boston’s off to a slow start, but I still think they’re a better team which hurts my confidence a bit, but I still think the Yankees can take them.

    • bexarama

      Boston’s off to a slow start, but I still think they’re a better team which hurts my confidence a bit, but I still think the Yankees can take them.
      Wait, what? Jimmy McNulty is that you?

      • MannyGeee

        Peter Gammons hi-jacked his RAB Acct

        • bexarama

          Nah, it’s the other way around. It’d be like… Al Leiter hacking his RAB account.

          • MannyGeee

            nah, Al Leiter is more like a Twitter Hacker… MIcheal Kay maybe

      • Jimmy McNulty

        Once baseball season starts I go into full “FUCK THE RED SOX” mode. Maybe in a month or two I won’t be as confident, but as long as Teixeira and Alex are mashing it’s:

  • Matt Warden

    7 — Love the offensive ability. I won’t be sold on the pitching until we have a better look.

  • steve s

    First, welcome back. I see you are a little rusty though as being “honest” is not the “big whoop” here. The “big whoop” is the laughable irony that Cashman presided over Joe Torre’s abusive use of relief pitching without any seeming protest or intervention and his attempt to justify buying a known “abused” pitcher who turns up lame from the get-go because its a weak-market is ludicrous on its face (with that reasoning why not get Billy Wagner if you wanted a known lame lefty reliever to sit on the disabled list!). Cashman deserves all the derisive bad press he received from this statement.

    • steve s

      The above comment was meant as a reply to TSJC above.

    • AndrewYF

      Where did Cashman deride the Mets for abusing Feliciano? Where did he say that what the Mets did was somehow shameful?

      He said a statement that was true. Three words: “He was abused.” Wow, what a dick!

      Also, Cashman can’t just tell his manager exactly how to use his pitchers. That’s not the GM’s job. Well, he can try, but then you have the ‘Joba Rules’ which he also gets continuously derided for, so it’s yet again another case of damned if you do/don’t.

      The abuse of your own relief pitchers is obviously not a good thing, and it’s a major reason why Cashman ‘presided over’ the hiring of Girardi, who is one of the best bullpen managers in the game.

      • steve s

        Defending what Cashman said by calling it “honest” totally misses the point. No one is criticizing Cashman for being honest, just foolish in signing a guy who you are now telling the world was damaged goods and especially ironic based on his own Yankee history. Also do you really think the words “He was abused” mean anything less than the Mets used him abusively and was not meant to be a slap at the Mets organization and pitching coach?

        • AndrewYF

          Just mentioning the Mets is a slap at their organization, because it makes people think about them.

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          No one is criticizing Cashman for being honest, just foolish in signing a guy who you are now telling the world was damaged goods and especially ironic based on his own Yankee history.

          It wasn’t foolish, it was a calculated gamble with a sound risk/reward analysis that hasn’t yet paid off (within the first 3 days of the season, mind you). There’s still plenty of time for it to work out like gangbusters. And if it doesn’t, a 2/8M deal is pocket change for this organization. Big whoop, we’ll move on and pick up someone else during the year (or just roll with Logan/Garrison if they hold up).

          Calling a strategy where a team (who intends on making the playoffs and wants to use bolster an already strong bullpen by giving it the weapon of using multiple LOOGYs to eliminate key lefty batters in those postseason games) signs the best LOOGY on the market to a 2 year deal this offseason “foolish” simply because that lefty’s arm is barking ON APRIL 4TH and there’s no evidence that the injury in question yet is a serious one that would preclude him pitching in the October games he was acquired for… that’s a ridiculously hasty proclamation. A risky move isn’t necessarily a foolish one. This move was risky, but not foolish, all things considered.

          Furthermore, Cashman’s comments not only acknowledged that the team knew the risk and proceeded anyway (because it was the right risk/reward thing to do), they also gave a hint that the team thinks Feliciano’s usage pattern was the issue at hand and that they intend to give him a different usage pattern to decrease the stress on his arm going forward. There’s a plan in place. That should make you happy.

          Also do you really think the words “He was abused” mean anything less than the Mets used him abusively and was not meant to be a slap at the Mets organization and pitching coach?

          Who the fuck are the Mets?

          • king of fruitless hypotheticals

            calculated gamble with a sound risk/reward analysis that hasn’t yet paid off (within the first 3 days of the season, mind you).

            Damn…if we have to use these words to defend Feliciano, I can’t imagine what we’ll have to say when Colon has his next epic fail missed spot.

    • Camilo Gerardo

      Thank you. great to be here

  • Yank the Frank

    Still a 7.
    Offense looks great.
    Rotation has decent potential (AJ & Hughes flipped flop)
    Bullpen has great potential
    When it warms up, so will Derek.

  • JohnnyC

    Hopefully, Jeter will learn his lesson. Mansion-building and playing shortstop just don’t go together. It’s one or the other. The same hard choice Trump had to make.

    • MannyGeee

      I Laughed

  • Mantle28

    Hey Mike, How do you calculate the pythagorean record?

  • BigDavey88

    Imma 7 nowadays. It’s only three games, but Jeter has looked… not good to put it nicely. I think GGBG will be fine and the rotation… yeesh… KEEP SCORING RUNS BOYS!

    Also the Red Sox are on pace to go 0-162 at which point the mainstream sports media will just explode.

    • MannyGeee

      and give up 1404 runs this season. How are those 5 aces working out for you?

      • BigDavey88

        FOUR CLOSERS!!!

  • Jorge

    Down from 9 to 8. I am a human being, and I was at the game yesterday so, despite knowing full well that one-game samples mean jack and sh*t, it happens.

    Yesterday was a tiny glimpse into “what could go wrong.” You hope Hughes simply hasn’t built up his arm strength, but also hope he does so sooner rather than later. Bartolo looked as advertised, showing glimpses of what he once was, but just as much of what he no longer isn’t. Millwood’s a fallback option if this doesn’t work, but it’s already going one down on the depth chart.

    On the other hand, the offense looks terrific, I am falling in love with Russell Martin, and the bullpen “A-Team” is making me smile. A good start from Nova and continued solid work from the front of the rotation will pop that sucker back up to a 9 and beyond rather quickly.

  • Doug

    My 7 would have been an 8 if Jeter didn’t have a 0% fly ball percentage

    • MannyGeee

      He’s had like a 0 FB% this decade… all of the sudden we’re upset by this?

  • MannyGeee

    so I am an 8 this week. my concern over the rotation is trumped by my giddyness over the 3 “Teix Messages” sent.

  • AndrewVT

    Does DirecTV really think its customers are going to blame YES for this current spat? Here’s the e-mail I sent DirecTV (Re: YES contracts with Comcast, Cablevision, and Time Warner):

    “I’m sure the Yanks would love to ring up those other providers and ask for the same money they’re asking from you, but those rates are, you know, under contract.

    After your apartment lease expires, your landlord may ask you for a higher rent. Is this somehow gouging you because the landlord doesn’t knock on the other lessees’ doors and demand the same increase at the same time? Somehow, DirecTV wants its subscribers to believe that YES is attempting to specifically gouge DirecTV instead of just raising the cost of the service.

    Work out a price, quit dragging customers into your negotiations, and quit pretending you’re doing Yanks fans a favor by continuing to keep YES on air – running out the string on the old contract for as long as YES will let you.

    Oh, BTW, my contract with DirecTV has expired. If you’re not willing to pay YES, then I’m not willing to pay you for hundreds of worthless channels just to get Comedy Central and my local Fox affiliate. Fix this, or my ISP will.”

    They need to fix this crap but fast, and their PR department shouldn’t assume their customers can’t understand a simple contract negotiation.

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      Funny–we canceled our installation of DTV when the whole thing came up. When I called to explain, the poor person had no idea what YES was. She kept trying to find a work around for me…I explained to her that I didn’t care about the $1.95 DTV was going to save me over my local cable–I wanted YES, and if they didn’t have it, I’m not interested. She did offer to call me when the dispute was settled, so kudos to the sales force for trying.

  • dkidd


    worried about jeter and phil, but otherwise love the vibe of this team so far. our line-up is relentless and we’re never out of a game

  • CS Yankee

    8 (still)

    Feliciano was a (likely) bad sign and that was before the arm issues. Cashman didn’t seem to me to disrespect them but that mets PC rips Cash for it and add that;
    a) He wanted to pitch…(so does every 5 year-old in Little league)
    b) They weren’t going to sign him because of his 270 innings in 3 years…(so why take exception to Cashman’s statement?).

    2 out of 3 ain’t a bad start against a near playoff team with a more powerful lineup than they had in 2010.