Game Five: Andruw’s debut
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Depending on who you ask, the Yankees have three players right now that should get into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, and Mariano Rivera are the easy picks, but they aren’t the only guys on the roster with Cooperstown-worthy credentials. As good as CC Sabathia and Mark Teixeira are, fourth outfielder Andruw Jones has had a more distinguished career than any of them. From 1998 through 2006 (age 21-29), Jones averaged .270/.347/.513 (.365 wOBA) with 35 homers, 12 steals, and an unfathomable 25.5 defensive runs saved per season. It doesn’t get much better than that.
Unfortunately, Jones is no longer that player. He’s with the Yankees as a spare part, a guy whose sole purpose in life is to spot start against left-handed pitching, a job he may or may not be qualified for. He’s making his first start of the season tonight, adding to a lineup that has tattooed Twins’ starter Brian Duensing in each of the last two postseasons. The Yankees don’t need Andruw to be a cornerstone player, he just needs to take care of business at the bottom of the lineup.
Death, taxes, and the Yankees beating the Twins. The only certainties in life. Here’s the starting lineup…
Derek Jeter, SS
Nick Swisher, RF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Robbie Cano, 2B
Jorge Posada, DH
Russell Martin, C
Andruw Jones, LF
Curtis Granderson, CF
First pitch is scheduled for 7:05pm ET, and the game can be seen on YES. Enjoy.
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Looks like another fun night of work ahead. Please make this easy, guys.
super jinx anyone?
Death, taxes, and jinxing a baseball game.
Jinxes are for the weakminded and the stupid.
I think this will become my new stock photo whenever I need a picture of…well, anything really.
Still we believe!! Still…
Sad fact: That guy is the smartest, most well-spoken, cleanest, most handsome member of the Red Sox faithful there is. It’s all downhill from that guy.
this guy is about 39% of people that live around me… I got to get out of this place…
That’s a hell of a percentage you came up with.
Hey Manny Geee: Look out for your cornhole, buddy.
thanks?
I think Andruw Jones should make the HOF someday. Most people would consider Manny Ramirez a sure fire 1st ballot HOFer (PED issues aside) and he has 72 career WAR compared to 70.5 for Andruw Jones.
Ozzie Smith made the Hall almost for his glove alone and AJ was just about his equivalent at an equally important position.
And any advantage Ozzie had over Andruw defensively (which is pretty slim, they’re both top-50 defensive players in MLB history) is easily dwarfed by Andruw’s massively better bat.
Sort, semi-relevant story: Went to Curaçao on my honeymoon cruise. Andruw Jones is like a national hero there. The island tourbus trip stopped by his mini-mansion and pointed it out with pride.
Interesting aside related to that short, semi-relevant story: You are not allowed to buy land in Curaçao, you can only lease your land from the government for a fixed term of years (I think it’s 99 years). So eventually, that house/land will revert back to the government.
Quit spreading your socialist beliefs here you Pro-Taft pinko.
Damn straight! TAKIN BACK ‘MERICA
Question: Since the 16th Amendment was passed during Taft’s obviously illegitimate presidency, aren’t income taxes thus unconstitutional? I say yes.
Sincerely,
Rose and Christine O’Donnell
Good to have that smily smirk/smirky smile on our side for awhile. I wish him well but I still prefer Gardy playing everyday.
Fernando Rodney lost his closer job already, hahahah, Jordan Walden taking over
thanks for the post just picked him up hahah
Obviously the Angels saw this graphic, realized they were falling behind the Rangers, Mariners, and A’s, and decided to make a move.
Its only fitting that Gagne gets an entirely different color for his epic steroid use er i mean great success
I love that graphic. Awesomeness in pictorial form.
Over/under 41,000 at the game?
Under. I’d be stunned if it wasn’t.
Slightly over. A few extra will show up since CC’s pitching, though it’s frickin’ freezing out.
that don’t look like 41,000.
This Russel Martin guy is pretty cool.
He’s like two pickups in one.
If we had a good way of quantifying catcher defense, Martin 2011 probably out-WARs the Posada/Cervelli tandem from 2010, and Posada the DH out-WARs Posada the C or the alternative 2011 DHs as well.
Dynamite addition.
I know the past few games I’ve asked on the game threads where I can watch the Yankees on iPad in my house for those that have Optimum.
Wanted to let those know (who care.. which might be few and far between) that I stumbled upon a new iPad Optimum App that allows you to watch live tv on it and the Yankees are included… i think this is similar to the Time Warner one that exists (I know Mike spoke about it in one of the threads when I asked). Looks like Dolan did something correct for once.
Those were the worst damn questions ever if you could ask a player. Which sport gets more hard hits? Come on. What a waste.
Holy schnikees…
http://yfrog.com/h7ysfznj
Holy schnikees, Cleveland actually exists?
It’s a photoshop. It’s still mythical.
That’s probably Milwaukee. You can’t prove that those two cities aren’t actually the same place.
Jeez, HS showcases outdraw that.
I was at Sunday’s game. I wasn’t lacking for room, to say the least.
anyone know when the free trial for mlb game package ends?
The 10th.
wow amazing thanks mike
So is it just me or is the roll call easier to hear on TV this year?
It’s because the Stadium is empty. Seriously.
Really wish someone would tell Micheal Kay to shut up during it though. Who needs him to tell us the defensive alignment when Bald Vinny and the creatures do it for him.
i know its 4 games but how dumb do the sox feel not willing to offer russell more than 4 mil to play salty every day instead
Salty’s off to a dynamite start, though.
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2011
Dynamite.
plus the awesome ability to throw runners out and block balls in the dirt
plus that awesome ability to throw the ball back to the pitcher
god he sucks
And don’t overlook the price-per-letters-in-surname ratio. That’s a big win for the Sox.
well… considering the albatross that their rotation is and that their super-lineup not firing on all cylinders (yet), Salty hitting or not hitting seems to be the least of their worries.
Jones may get into the HOF one day, but he’s going to get dinged by voters who will discount his hitting because of the generation in which he played, and because getting elected to the Hall based on defense is diffucult, unless your name is Ozzie Smith or Brooks Robinson.
Oddly, he’d have a better chance if he went the Marilyn Monroe route: Die young, stay pretty. Many voters will remember the lesser Jones we’ve seen the past few years.
many stadium is empty, everyone just assumes they’ll beat the Twins so it’s not worth going , huh?
man*
I was thinking about popping down to the stadium the other night, and then thought about what it would cost me. Naturally, I stayed home to watch on the tv.
It is obnoxiously cold, so I understand not wanting to be there, but I would be there in a heartbeat if I could.
just got home in time for the first pitch!
nice
Nice Jetes, nice.
mike what do u think agon gets from boston when they sign him up
I am thinking they will go 6/120 on him. he could play to that contract…
jeter with a walk????
Over/Under: Jeter .750 OPS
Over/Under: Jeter -20 URZ
over on the OPS (barely), over on the UZR (-.5)
Over on both.
-20 UZR is really, really bad. Jeter’s not a good shortstop, but I think (or maybe I just hope) he’s not that atrocious… yet.
TEXY SMASH!!!
WOOOOO!!!
seeeeeeeeeeeya
Texual healing.
lol Gardenhire trying to hold it together
TEIX!
He is out of his mind. April what !
Slow starts in April?
shhhhh, its May.
TEIX.
wow, Teix is a manimal.
This offense is so good
Wow. Just wow.
Tex!!!
Damn, Tex. You’re going to spoil me with these home runs. Also, hello everyone.
KIT!
TSJC! How are you? You’ve been gone for so long, I was starting to think you had left us for another blog.
I’m good. Just took a vacation, that’s all.
Oh, that’s awesome. Hope you had fun. You were missed though. No one was around to make stupid people feel stupid. It was upsetting.
Agreed. To all of this.
Kit! black flag fans UNITE!!!!
Hey Wooderson! How goes it?
pretty good. havin a TV party tonight. you?
Same here. Having a couple of brews.
have you heard the OFF! record? you said you were more of a rollins fan but it still kicks ass
I have not. If you swear it’s good, I’ll check it out. And yeah, total Rollins fan.
its a nice blast of hardcore punk, short and sweet. not groundbreaking, but so few punk bands are worth following these days. what current bands are you into?
I just got the new Rise Against and Radiohead albums, but there really isn’t anything out there worth listening to. I’ve just revisited a couple of my old vinyls. Found The Adolescents and The Adicts in my brother’s stack of stuff, so I’ve been listening to those a lot. Enter Shikari is pretty awesome though, as far as modern bands go. Been listening to a lot of Thrice as well. Want something new out of them.
holy moly
I was there yesterday, it gets cold with the wind chill.
honestly i was there on Sunday and it was freezing in the grandstands with the wind and it was perfectly lovely out.
not used to seeing A Rod not MURDER the ball…
were you alive last season?
Maybe Duensing should have studied what he did wrong in the playoff game just a little more.
That’s right, Tex, keep driving up that pricepoint for Adrian Gonzalez’s Red Sox extension.
Ok did MLB juice up the ball this season???
Will be a popular topic until a scoring drought hits, I’m sure.
yikes, bet Jorge wants that one back
It seems like one extreme or the other. Swish, Tex and Arod smash the ball, and Cano lunges at it.
Good evening, TSJC. I missed your re-introduction last night.
ha i remember that 3 homer barrage last year on may 8th against the sox
good shit
wow, Cuddyer… wow
well, there goes the no-no
well that sucked
cmon, GIDP
Ack, he got the ground ball…
Hello everyone. Finally able to watch a full game!
from Olney – “Another scout on Jimmy Rollins: “He looks good, playing with a lot of energy. He looks like he will bounce back.”"
I found this entertaining
Hey guys, the Red Sox aren’t the 1927 Yankees anymore. Now they’re the 1998 Yankees.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qVD4.....1600/1.jpg
hahahahahahahahaha that man is delusional
It does make a good point. The Red Sox are a good team stumbling out of the gate. But the connotation that compares them to 1998 (peace be upon them) is… i don’t like.
It’s interesting that PeteAbe adds “no one is predicting the Red Sox will win 114 games,” since that’s pretty much what the Boston media has been predicting, wondering if they might be the greatest team ever assembled, destined to break the single-season runs scored record, while winning 118 games!
Are the Twins in for a three-game series or four? Wondering if Thursday is an off day for the Yankees.
Four.
nice, a four game series
err a four game sweep
Right, that’s what I was thinking, but don’t want to jinx it…not that I believe in such things.
four: they play Thurs @ 1pm
Alexi complies. I like that guy, but he wasn’t ready.
Anyone have a link to the story discussing Teixeira building a batting cage at his house this past offseason?
good god, jones is only 33???
wow
andrew jones smash!!!
andruw*
ANDDRUUWW
Andruw!
welcome to the yankees Andruw!
shitty spring training what?
Welcome to the Bronx Andruw.
Woah. Is it 1996?
Sorry. Michael Kay and his references got to me.
Yay Jones. Kay ruins it by some weird 96 reference.
anybody with the sterling call?
Andruw’s got Jones in his Bones.
Disturbing.
Mr. Jones
beast
Welcome Mr. Jones!
Sterling’s call for Jones? Anyone?
“Andruw Jones… makes his bones!”
Weak man. Weak.
Can’t be serious…
confirmed by @Ledger_Yankees
That’s just terrible.
Andruw! Congratulations on a job…done.
That’s a hell of a debut, Andruw. Keep it up.
***ONdrew
Cashman is a genius!
Too early to call this the Year of the Home Run?
lol TEH BALL IS JOOOOSED!! JOOOOSED!!!JUAN!!111
Yes.
2000 will forever be that. maybe 2001. either way, nothing compares to the monsters of the steroid era.
There have been 11 seasons where more than one player hit 50+ home runs. Eight of those have been 1996-present. 1998 and 2001 had four apiece.
TEH STADEUHM IZ 2 SMAHL!1!!1!1ONE!1!!
Random story about Andruw Jones: I met him while at a laser tag place in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee about 10 years ago.
Good God that is random. Laser tag in Tennessee with Andruw Jones. Sounds like a Family Guy joke.
Yeah, I couldn’t believe it either. It was cool to meet him but I still kind of hated him because of the Braves-Yankees WS and what he did in ’96. He was rather rotund at the time too.
well, he looks at it as he’s just being natural; you look at it as if I had the chance…
Sterling’s call was apparently: “Andruw Jones makes his bones”
yay for some Jeter BABIP
PastadivingCasilla
that’s nice for a change
Captain with a booming single!
I really don’t understand the Twins struggles against the Yankees this past decade. They play sound, fundamental baseball and they’ve got solid pitching. I guess we’re just their version of the LAA Angels.
They’ve had a lot of pitchers that pitch to contact and the pitchers usually kill those types of pitchers.
and the Yankees*
Pitcher on pitcher violence is the worst kind of violence.
Yeah, but it still doesn’t add up. Shouldn’t be happening, yet it is.
I guess so, the only two pitchers they’ve had averaging over a 7.0 K/9 are Scott Baker and Francisco Liriano, and it gets worse as you go back in years with the exception of Johan. But with their defensive style and strong bullpen, you’d think they’d at least be competitive.
They haven’t had the power arms in the back of the pen that the Angels did (non-Nathan division).
Additionally, their good defensive players (Carlos Gomez) can’t typically hit. And Nick Punto ran into outs.
I think this is a misnomer. The smart pitcher sometimes shades a pitch so he could catch him unawares, and sometimes plays to the hitter’s perception of strength. CC sometimes looks to get the doubleplay, as I’ve heard from his interviews.
An anomaly perhaps. Can’t really explain it. Theyve got a good lineup with decent defense. The games they play are close most of the time so it could be bad luck.
Tex is starting off like an animal, I think if he stays healthy, he is going 40/110/120. Prediction: When his career is over, he may very well surpass Catfish Hunter, Goose Gossage, CC & Reggie Jackson as the greatest modern day, Free Agent every signed in the history of this franchise (Obviously names from the past like, Berra, Mantle, Ford & of course, Gehrig are above him).
What does 110/120 stand for?
RBIs and runs scored? Two awesome ways to evaluate a player
I was thinking walks and RBIs, but it might be runs scored.
Is there any other way? Maybe batting average?
#Commentsfrom1985
I forgot, a baseball game is decided after adding all the hit and walks each player gets, a calculating a team OPS. The team with the highest OPS after 9 innings is the winner!
What a great game!
Nononono, the previous games’ OPS is fed into various projection systems, the average of which is spit out as the next game’s results, all without leaving the spreadsheet.
Let’s start a petition, and change this ridiculous game to one that makes sense, one where we don’t tally RUNS or care who drives them in.
Who cares how many players cross home plate. I want to know when someone gets stranded on 2nd, after hitting a meaningless double with 2 outs, yeah, that’s excitement!
runs scored being good things is not the same as runs scored being a good way of evaluating if someone was good or not, and literally no one, ever, has said that runs scored aren’t good things to accumulate.
Jeter had more runs scored in 2010 than in 2009, and more RBIs in 2008 and 2010 than he had in 2009. Which one was his best year?
I’ve heard a number of times, such as your comment above, RUNS and RBI accumulated are not a good way to evaluate players.
How do you not evaluate a player who’s main objective is to win ballgames by scoring runs.
Because RUNS and RBI are too dependent on the rest of the team. You can’t drive in a runner if there’s no one on base, and you can’t score a run if no one will drive you in.
If your boss told you, you are being judged by the number of sales you make in a quarter. Then at the end of that quarter he says, “No, number of sales is not a good way to evaluate whether you get a bonus. Instead, we are going to evaluate you on metrics that support that one, such as, how fast and intelligently you can talk, how fast you get to the sales call, the percentage of proposals generated. Yes, all these things are used to make a sale, but the actual number of sales, the one that success of our company is judged on…well, that doesn’t really matter.”
Because counting how many runs a guy scores, while of course a good thing, doesn’t evaluate the player. It evaluates the guys hitting behind him, who get hits with him on base. Hence Jeter having a much better year in 2009 when he scored fewer runs than he did in 2010. RBIs have the exact same problem–they evaluate the guys hitting before a player, not the player himself.
If you eat food off the ground after 6 seconds, rather than 5…..you metaphysically ruin the no-hitter.
Like slavery.
Yeah we should instead of human memory which is never faulty and never biased in making decisions.
I don’t think anyone is saying scrap statistics. What I’m saying is, it is important how many times a player crosses the plate, and who gets him there. Runs and rbi as KEY measures, because ultimately, that’s the heart and soul of the game of baseball.
Rodriguez?
trade
Answer to poll question:
Brian Duensing?
When he isn’t playing the Yankees
great pitch, ZZ
CC could use a quick inning or two. Not that the pitch count is terrible, but a ten or 12 pitching frame would be nice.
52 pitches through 3, yuck.
Mutts are beating Hamels 6-0
What???
Going into tonight’s game, he was only 2-8 against the Mets. They seem to be in his head as the Yanks are in the collective minds of the Twins.
OMG!!! The four ACES
Last year he was 0-4 against the Mets but his ERA was like 3.00 so…
(After discussing Joe Mauer’s high school baseball career)
Flaherty: So what did you hit in high school?
Kay: The books.
I bet Michael is real proud of that gem.
Cooling off much?
It’s been four at-bats!
Just got in, how hard were Jeter’s hits?
He’s been designated for assignment. Please welcome your new starting shortstop, Eduardo Nunez.
Answer to trivia question
Roger Clemens?
missed it, what was the question?
Last Yankees pitcher 40 wins across two seasons.
That’s a good trivia question. I’m going to say David Cone.
I missed it. Mind repeating it for me?
I’m going to call that unlikely seeing as Cone only had one season with 20 wins while in the pinstripes.
It’s good to hear Flaherty at least admitting there may be another offspeed pitch besides a slider.
It really pisses me off when the announcers call a change-up or curve ball a slider. I don’t know why but it just irks me
The last Yankee pitcher to win 40 games over two seasons. Not counting C.C.
wang(er)
Never won 20.
Wang won 19 two seasons in a row, so I guess no for Wang
Is it possible we have to go back to Tommy John in 1979-80 when he won 43 (21 and 22 back-to-back seasons)?
Guidry did it, on either side of his 1978 25-3 year.
I hate these smoking commercials….make me wanna puke
I’m tempted to take up smoking in annoyance.
hahaha
I started up out of the blue two weeks ago because of stress at work and I will say I’ve really started to feel like shit lately. Smoking may actually be bad for you after all.
Out of the blue? Meaning you never smoked before, or you relapsed?
Nice easy inning. I wonder how pitches Girardi will let CC go tonight.
*many*
Its early in the season, I don’t see him going beyond 105.
CC rolling through
Wow, Tommy John. Its been that long?
Tommy John, who would have guessed that?
I hope to one day have a cool new surgery named after me…..I could really use a third arm.
it’s not that good
What’s if it’s Hemorrhoid surgery?
I need that
man, everyone keeps on staring at that breaking ball for strike 3
It’s a pitch you don’t see often. Usually the 0-2 pitch starts in the zone and breaks out, not the other way
very true
That was a good one. I guess it really is quite hard to win 40 games over two seasons
I thought he would be to 80 pitches by now
Letting Deunsing off easy
Duensing seems to have settled down, glad we got those 4 runs on the board early
Guys, Mark Teixera has a Twitter.
http://twitter.com/teixeiramark25
His Twitter account has the potential to be exciting and interesting as watching golf.
“im planning on working real hard today” or “That pitcher X has a really good fast ball…i hope I can hit it” etc. back to ocho and sheen.
It could be him, but not convinced. He should have it verified.
Its him. It’s too robotic and monotone to be someone else.
It’s a long con.
Step 1. Create fake Mark Texeira Twitter account.
Step 2. Update it with mundane, vanilla posts for months until everyone just assumes its actually him.
Step 3. Slowly start losing it via the twitter account, becoming more unhinged and disturbing with each post.
Step 4. Hilarity.
Nah, I think Yankee PR Tweeted this today. I know a few of the beat writers did as well. It’s him.
I like your version better radnom.
sit on the slider, druw!
As much as I am enjoying this offense, I wouldn’t mind to see some non-HR RBIs mixed in. Right now it seems it’s either HR or nothing and obviously that can’t be maintained. A great “two birds with one stone” situation would involve Gardner/Jeter getting the ball rolling.
The rays are getting killed again….
And still on pace to score 162 runs this year…
After that trivia, I have a new found appreciation for how good the Arizona Diamondbacks were in 2001 and 2002. Johnson and Schilling had 45 wins each through those years.
Flaherty said Josh Beckett is gonna have a “Josh Beckett year” ….ummm…what?
hopefully that means he hurts his back again.
Yeah, Beckett’s been more hurt than really good in his career.
..so he’s going to miss a bunch of games due to blisters on his fingers?
im gonna send a dirty hooker to his hotel room so he gets a blister somewhere else.
He’ll give up a shit ton of home runs while going in and out of the rotation with blister problems? I’ll take it.
Our #3 hitter-Tex
Sawx #3 hitter-Not even the biggest guy in 13-under little league
lol Repko
It’s early but CC seems to be racking up the strikeouts. A nice change.
so nice to have a catcher that frames some pitches…
Nice try, Repko. Now sit your ass down.
And when you do it… you do it cool.
Yay Michael Pineda.
Hey guys, I know we’re winning and all but could we stop letting Duensing off the hook? Send him home and lets get into their bullpen, thanks.
Sox down 2-1 now
Who the hell do the Reds think they are?
Every club that plays Houston this year?
Yeah, the twins infield defense isnt that great…
Would you be OK with the team giving naming rights to the stadium if it allowed us to get Pujols?
Pasta diving Casilla
Mmm, Pasta Casilla…
Cole Hamels was booed off the mound after leaving the game vs. Mets
Stay classy Philly.
Phillies phans really are the pits.
that is so bad, lol
Manny Ramirez got booed after striking out for the third time a few minutes ago.
Are you sure that wasn’t Tampa’s over elderly fan base agonizing in pain?
are you new here? you’ve had some zingers tonight
Of course he was. The Phillies rotation is the best ever and they were going to go undefeated with a 1.50 ERA. He was a failure.
/msmexpectations
He should count his blessings he didn’t get hit by the projectile vomit.
he’s lucky it didn’t snow there today, they would have thrown snow balls at him
I wonder if Ms. Lee took notice, because those friendly fans will be booing her husband too once he starts to lose a little in the next couple years.
And if she had problems with spitting fans, wait until the vomit starts coming her way down in Philly town.
Can I boo him off my fantasy team? Him, Hanson, and Wandy have trashed all my pitching states.
where would i go online to listen to the yankees games for free?
justin tv
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM_broadcasting
http://riveraveblues.com/about.....uidelines/
7. “Any comment written out in all capital letters will be deleted. That’s just unnecessary.”
Hadn’t seen this before. This is awesome.
OH DAMN!
/sorry guys
sO IT’S OKAY IF THERE’S 1 LOWER CASE LETTER?
CC is officially in beast mode.
I would like to see him with a lower pitch count though
He’s averaging 15 pitches an inning. If we were a little further into the season, he’d be on path for a solid eight innings, 120-pitch game.
He’ll get them through 7 at this rate.
Yeah the quick sixth helped him. I just dont want to wear out Soriano or Joba early
He’s averaging 15p/inning!
What more do you want man?
It was high earlier, but he’s settled down the last three innings.
I hope Girardi let’s CC pitch in the seventh. I’m not sure if JoSoMo will work two nights in a row.
Probably if they’re four runs up it’s D-Rob and Logan.
It can work, but not sure it makes sense with a 4-0 lead. Other guys in the pen need to throw some innings, too, especially before hitting Boston.
he went
The Yankees can’t just be beating the Twins, they need to crush them. I need a bloodbath, now.
I think slow toture counts
This OF defense is the tits.
You mean that whole fan reaction that Grandy takes poor routes to the ball might not be true?
CC in the groove is like poetry…
auction hunters….aka the A’s?
haha. I love when CC keeps Michael Kay off-balance…he’s working so quickly that Kay doesn’t even have time for his anecdotes.
Gritty, gutty hustle by A-Rod. Not indicative of a true Yankee.
put up a few more runs so Joe can just bring in the Coloser for the 8th and 9th please
3-1 Sox losing. 0-4 bitches, let’s hope.
how nice would it be if they went into this weekend’s series 1-5 or 0-6? lol
Beckett has 106 pitches through 5 innings.
Meh.
Against the INDIANS.
It’s Carlos Santana and Shin Soo Choo. You have to be pretty fucking terrible to have a PC like that.
He threw 82 pitches in his last THREE innings.
Good grief. You know it’s a bad lineup when Travis Hafner’s corpse is batting 5th. Not a good performance by Beckett no matter how RSN or the MSM tries to play it.
Austin Kearns isn’t the worst hitter in that lineup. Like what the hell.
I challenge you to prove to me that Austin Kearns and Ryan Church are not the same person.
Not a good performance by Beckett no matter how RSN or the MSM tries to play it.
=====================================
that’s exactly what they’re saying over on Fat Pete’s site: “Beckett pitched well…. the offense is cold…. 158-4…”
*facepalm*
he blames a-rod.
GE Capital Partner Play is a play made by the other team again, so not cool
Sterling-“Andruw Jones! Makes his bones!”
So now we have that, and “Russell! Adds some muscle!”
Now we need one for Eric Chavez.
“Chavez goes sha-boom!!”
Man games? Is that what Michael Kay wants to play?
C’mon CC. Give us one more good inning.
What a waste of onion rings.
LOL. Fans are stupid.
Did he really try to catch that with his food tray?
Andruw is hungry.
whos the asshole who threw the food at Andruw Jones?
He didn’t throw it. It appeared he tried to “catch” the ball in his food tray that was stacked with onion rings. I mean, wouldn’t take a genius to figure out he wouldn’t get the ball and he’d lost the onion rings!
You know Andruw just snagged an onion ring.
they dropped their $20 onion rings on Andruw? lol
Onion Rings?
“ohhhhhhhhhh, Onion rings!” – Kay, comment of the year.
Now that dude has to fork over another $15 for onion rings.
ONION RINGS!!!
This has to be the most comments about onion rings this site has ever had right?
Kay stop talking please
He’s in rare form today.
How bad does Jeter have to be and for how long before he’s moved down in the lineup?
reply fail
You know, if you eat food off the ground after 6 seconds, rather than 5…..you metaphysically ruin the no-hitter.
Like slavery.
Is it really necessary to use Soriano again? Don’t we have someone else to use for a 4 run lead?
his name is David Robertson
You know your pen is good when a guy with more than 11k per 9 is your low leverage reliever.
Kay is such a worrier.
That sounded kind of snippy, Flash. Getting annoyed at Kay?
One of these days Flash is going to tell Kay to shut his pie hole.
Flash does seem to have a very low tolerance for Michael Kay. Then again, don’t we all.
A fat, sticky bowl of win?
Flash just got a free iPad.
Wow, Girardi seems to be wanting to burn the pen quite early in the season. Hopefully they can score a few runs here and not have to bring in Soriano
Martin makes the True Yankee label official tonight.
Andruw’s first game he hits a homer and gets a ring! Lol
Waiting for the return of David Cone…and announcer. Pretty sure he’s not returning as a pitcher, although based on Garcia and Colon being on the roster, guess I can’t be too sure of that.
The split between YES & D. Cone the announcer was rather hairy, IIRC.
Not expecting a return anytime soon, although he was probably my favorite color guy of the past 10 years.
I believe I read somewhere that he’ll be returning to broadcast some games this year. I may be wrong though.
You’re right. Whatever differences they had they seemed to patch them up and there was an announcement Cone was returning this season to do 20 games or so. I’m guessing he’ll be used like O’Neill and Leiter, rotating in and out.
I had forgotten he was returning until I heard Flaherty mention Leiter was working the Boston series, which got me to wondering when Cone will be back. I liked Cone.
No, it seems that you’re right on the money.
Thanks for the correction. That’s what I get for not staying current on the RAB-waves during the offseason.
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....oth-41923/
I’m very excited about this!
His last year with the Yankees, opponents OPSed .891 off him
Melky ties up the game v. ChiSox w/ a 2 run single.
Go leche go.
High Five!
http://www.fangraphs.com/not/w.....ghFive.gif
How has Jones looked defensively?
Greasy.
I laughed.
Better than Thames did last year, we can be sure of that
A wax statue of Thames looks better than Thames did last year.
no bones about that!
Soriano to the 8th. DRob to the 9th. Please?
DRob to the 8th and 9th!
Watching Jeter for another 3 years is gonna be brutal.
Wouldn’t it be better to have DRob for the bottom of the order and then Soriano for the top of the order.
Oh late to this but what was Sterling’s call for Martin a few days ago and Jones today?
Russell’s got muscle. No idea on Jones but I’m gonna find out.
…Even for Sterling that’s weak.
Russel’s got Muscle, and Andrew Jones makes his bones.
“Andruw Jones makes his Bones” was Andruw’s Sterling call.
Thanks to all but I shouldn’t have asked. Those were horrific.
Expecting better?
I was expecting more ‘thrilla by Godzilla’ esque calls tbh.
Not sure how many bases Martin will steal, and not sure I’d recommend he run too much since he wasn’t a real high-percentage stealer, but if he can get it into the opposition’s head early on that he will run, then that might have some value.
wtf why is Soriano pitching again? Shouldn’t it be D-Rob?
Saving D-Rob for the 9th?
I guess the Yankees are going to try and get their money’s worth out of Soriano. 80 IP this year?
What the fuck is Girardi smoking?
Dutch Masters?
D-Rob,
We miss you. Please get some work.
Love,
Fans
This looked liked the perfect opportunity for So and Mo to get a rest but I guess we’ll have none of it.
89 high the fuck is he doing throwing that garbage
89 high the fuck is he doing throwing that garbage
According to Gameday, 90 MPH cutters.
Sawx out in the 7th. Down 3-1 to Austin Kearns and the Redskins.
If Mo comes in for the 9th I’ll be annoyed.
I was annoyed when Soriano came out for the 8th.
Kill, kill, kill
This is getting ugly fast.
I wonder if Girardi brought in Soriano because he wants to see how he’d do back-to-back, to build up his arm strength? Girardi is very careful on how he uses pitchers, so there’s a reason. That’s the only one I can think that makes any sense.
why does Girardi keep warming up Robertson and then not using him? It’s quite annoying
Soriano tired much?
Take him out before the short homer.
Ugh. This is less than ideal.
Punch ‘im.
That’s more like it!
Fuck yeah!
wow nice strikeout, where’s that been? lol
Logan for Mauer?
Ummm, I’d rather have Soriano pitch to Mauer than Logan.
No matter what Soriano does here, with 30 pitches or so, and back-to-back games, no way he’s available for the next two games.
I hardly ever complain about Girardi but this is retarded. Why the hell are they sending Soriano out there for 2 games in a row, to face the bottom of the lineup? Especially with Garcia pitching tomorrow. Even if Soriano has a 1,2,3 inning, he still can’t pitch tomorrow, and if he has trouble now you have to bring Mo in, and he can’t pitch tomorrow. This is just horrible strategy.
What if Robertson came in and did the exact same thing?
Robertson didn’t pitch yesterday, if he ended up melting down like Soriano did, then you can always send in someone else to close the game. In this instance you’re bringing in your guys with little rest to close out a game with a 4 run lead. On top of that, the bullpen is supposed to be there for guys like Garcia and even if Soriano succeeds he’s out for Garcia’s start.
No reason to worry. This guy only has a 0.086 BA.
Knock on wood plz.
Now would be an exceptionally poor time for Mauer to break out of his slump.
Girardi is good for several moronic moves each season. We’re witnessing one of them. There’s really no reason to bring in a former closer in the 8th inning of a four run game. I can’t blame So for not being quite as in to it as he should be.
There’s a time to build up arm strength with back to back outings. It’s called Spring Training.
hes cooked
Soriano definitely should get a day of rest tomorrow, idk why Girardi didn’t use D-rob…
Ugh.
Aw hell.
Alright, mismanaging at its finest.
This was just in case, you know, we didn’t think the game was exciting up until this point. Thanks, Joe.
Hey Girardi, great BP management.
Can someone who knows more about baseball than me explain why we brought in Soriano in a 4 run game when he pitched yesterday? I don’t care if he had a 1, 2, 3 inning. I don’t get it.
Because he’s the 8th inning guy.
Or, as Stewie Griffin would say,
(Stewie voice)
“Because, Andy, because. Those are the rules, Andy.”
Haha this would have been a lot easier to laugh at if that hadn’t just happened.
Good shit Giardi. Fuck inning defined roles. Free DRob.
giradi planning on using his shinny new toy every night?
Well this has turned somewhat ugly, eh?
Isnt this supposed to go the reverse way? Robertson walks the world with a 4 run lead and Soriano comes in to clean up his mess?
Girardi doing everything in his power to make sure his 41 year old closer gets as much work as possible early in the season.
D-Rob with the bases loaded? His time of truth.
I like him, but his walks seem inexplicable.
no reason for Soriano even to be pitching tonight….now hes lost for tomorrow on what could be a closer game
No shit! What the hell Girardi. Idiot.
Ummmm, the Yankees paid him $10 million a season to shut down the 8th inning. He didn’t do his job. That’s not Girardi’s fault.
it’s really too early in the season for me to be yelling at the TV.
Maybe there was something wrong with DRob and that’s why they didn’t send him out?
Now he decides to bring him in huh?
Then bring in your LOOGY. But it’s t3h 31gth.
MFIBBY?
+1
Is Girardi trying to teach the fans a lesson? “I know you think this bullpen is invincible, but i’ll prove you wrong!”
So then Soriano would have walked three batters? He just didn’t have it. He wouldn’t had it your way either.
See…this is he situation I would want to see Soriano brought in had D-Rob ran into this sort of trouble in the 8th. The way it should have been done.
Girardi using that rigid engineering degree yet again.
In other news, Jed Lowrie pinch hits for SaltylaMacchia. Sawx down 3-1 bottom 8.
at this rate they are going to turn over their line up and have the heart of their team come up again in the 9th
THROW STRIKES
hey, ball 3 was a strike.
Mo might break Hoffman’s record by the ASB
You have to be fucking kidding me!
Fuck fuck fuck
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CC must be pissed a fuck
When did this place turn into LoHud?
At least Joe got to play with his new toy.
11 toe joe?
Joe the Toe
Nightmare.
Soriano…. the new Scott Proctor. Nice strategy Girardi.
Giardi owes 10 steaks to CC.
D-Rob got the lazy fly, not his fault. Damn you Soriano.
un fucking believable
lol @ that slide by swish,
and rly? a bullpen meltdown?
i thought this was never ever ever supposed to happen again?
#ragequit
Manager meltdown. Don’t blame the bullpen guys, when the manager throws you out there a day after you looked like you were struggling in a situation that means nothing.
Golson makes that catch EASY.
Golson has no god damn bat.
but he is an excellent defensive replacement in 4-0 games in the eighth for Swisher.
/whatever
I thought Golson isn’t even on the roster.
I got it….its the Yankees secret plan to not let CC win a single game all year, so he wont opt out for more money at the end of the season
Wow, that was fast.
Girardi managing FAIL
SO Girardi is off the hook to a degree. Both pitchers were ineffective. Still wouldn’t have done it. But both pitchers let him down
D-rob gave up a blooper and then struck out a guy. He was fine.
Doesnt matter. Still ineffective
how?
Not really. We have no idea what would have happened if Robertson started the inning.
Girardi is not off the hook.
Bringing in Mo in an extremely high leverage situation would have been the move, instead of saving your best pitcher for when no one is on base.
Well this is horrible.
a fucking bloop double, you’ve gotta be kidding me.
Nice bullpen management Girardi…
Just got Soriano’d
what just happened?
Well shit happens. Time for the Yankees to step up and score a couple runs here in the eighth.
fluky bullshittt
lol
Robertson could not really be blamed for this one. It was a pop up that dropped in. I have no idea why Soriano was left out there for so long, I honestly thought his fly ball pitching would be exposed.
I was surprised his fly ball tendency didn’t fuck us over sooner.
Fly balls weren’t a problem. He walked three guys.
If whoever was calling pitches had balls, a 3-2 curve would have left Young up there frozen. Thing is who knows if Robertson could have thrown it for a strike.
What do fly balls have ANYTHING to do with Girardi’s lack of common sense?
It has to do with why leave him in when balls have been flying out of the place and his control was shit.
Back-asswards inning right there.
I picked the wrong day to stop smoking crack…
At least NY Papers can dust off the “Clueless Joe” headline for tomorrow.
If Drov comes in the 8th does what Soriano does and Soriano comes in and does what Drob did it’s fine because I think Drob should have started that inning
Now lets hope that the middle of the order can string together a few hits.
That spot should be known as the “Posada Triangle”
Good thing the bullpen will be rested for Garcia’s start tomorrow.
Girardi took his protein with a side of stupid this morning.
Luis Ayala is well-rested and can pitch multiple innings.
Nice job Levine. And when a guy is throwing in the 80′s with no location, how many guys do you let him walk before you figure out…hey i’m a fucking dumbass and should have brought in Robertson. We just GAVE them 4 runs. What a joke. Fuck you Girardi. Fuck you.
You realize that it’s April 5th, not game 7 or the World Series, right?
No, he doesn’t. Neither do half the people commenting tonight.
go fuck yourself. how arrogant is it for you to say when someone is allowed to be upset or not? These games mean a lot to me. April 5th or not, i have the right to be upset with a 100% stupid move that backfired. You have ZERO right to tell me when I can be upset.
Yes, I agree. you have the right to make a complete fool of yourself. Feel free to continue doing so.
You should really sit the next few plays out, champ.
LOLOL
Go to Yankees dot com or something.
Yes EXACTLY. April 5th. And Roberston hasn’t thrown yet. Maybe if it’s Game 7 you can defend using Soriano there, but not April 5th. I have the right to be upset with us making dumb moves and walking away a lead. Just like you have the right to leave sarcastic, cocksucker comments like you’re somehow the better person for not being upset about the terrible bullpen management and pitching.
Wait..you do realize you’re being a cocksucker, right?
What’s so bad about being a cocksucker?
Well Played.
Seriously. Heternormality disclaimer and all but I’d think Jonathan here (First Name Only Male Handle Rule) would like cocksuckers.
Maybe it was a thinly veiled come-on to toasty Nostra.
Ugh, I get that all the time. I think they like my big blue eyes.
The world would be a terrible place without cocksuckers.
agreed.. ugh.. i don’t think i’d make it
Wow. You really need to lighten up.
There’s a lot of value in letting pitchers work out of jams early in the season. It can help give them confidence and also let’s Girardi know whether Soriano can pull it together if he’s struggling later in the year.
Not cool.
Is it really necessary to call him names though? He didn’t really insult you, just pointed out a simple fact. Personal attacks aren’t necessary.
You do realize cocksucker isn’t an adjective, right?
you never get there, less you win these.
doesn’t make it any less of a dumbass move to put an obviously gassed reliever to load the bases, then put in a reliever you have not used in almost a week into a bases loaded situation when he already has control issues prior to the rust that needs to be knocked off.
Girardi lost this game, April or not it was stupid game management and he should be called out on it.
Girardi lost this game, April or not it was stupid game management and he should be called out on it.
The games not over.
I can assure you, with the Yankees dead offense and spent up bullpen this game is over.
you were saying
I don’t think anyone is arguing that it wasn’t stupid or a move to be questioned. It’s just that it’s like, the 5th game of the season and there’s a whole lot of complaining over something that will happen more than once over the course of the season and for a game that’s happening in April.
Game #4 out of #162.
Chillax brotha.
we lost the AL East by 1 game last year. ONE GAME. They all count the same.
cry moar!
What did you do after game 6 of the ALCS last year, take a bottle of pills?
I am dumbfounded at you people. constantly attacking a yankee fan for being upset at that situation on a yankee site. acting like you’re all better than me because these games mean a lot to me and i got upset? We’re all on here talking with a lot of strangers while watching the game, but it’s out of line to be upset with a TERRIBLE move that nobody can defend. I have the right to be upset with anything I want to be upset with. I just thought more people would actually care about the yankees on ya know, a yankee website. but if you don’t get upset during yankee games, then congratulations. that’s your right. I hope you all feel so much better about yourselves.
You were the one calling people cocksuckers and telling them to go fuck themselves, you did the attacking.
that was the defense man. you’re really telling me you wouldn’t have a problem with people telling you when it’s ok to be upset and when it isn’t? i “attacked” girardi first. i didn’t say anything to anyone on here. i aired my grievance with the move and was basically told it’s April 5th you have no right to be upset that the Yankees made a completely stupid move that is likely to cost us the game. Like I said earlier, I’d think you’d understand after you overreacted to the jeter deal the other day. We both overreacted but we both care about this team and have the right to care about this team and be upset with things like that. I came to RAB PURPOSELY for like-minded people who i thought would be just as upset as I was but i was only made fun of for being upset. your comments are one of the best parts about this site but you can’t even say how you feel or what you think about the team without being attacked. and if you stand up for yourself, you get attacked even more. it’s completely backwards. it’s the same group of snarky people who patrol the comments and rag on people who they don’t agree with. if you aren’t one of the regulars there’s no point in even coming to the comments. I’m sure countless others feel the same way I do because I see it happen to plenty of people all the time. Non regular’s comment attacked by a regular. Most people don’t fire back like I did/do for fear of you and the regulars piling on even more. It’s the absolute best and worst part of the entire website. You get the feel of a group of friends talking about the Yankees, but if you aren’t in that exclusive group we all know what happens.
Kind of has a point. Not about cocksuckers, but at least with this annoying clique thing this site can at times be plagued with.
But ya know whatever, group think FTW!
it’s out of line to be upset with a TERRIBLE move that nobody can defend
Also out of line: randomly calling people cocksuckers
a regular agreeing with a regular. I don’t see it as random. Randomly telling people they have no right to be upset and being snarky and sarcastic is ok…but standing up for yourself isn’t. I didn’t say ANYTHING to him or about him to start with. You’re standing up for what is most likely your friend, I understand that. But you have to see it from my perspective. I have the right to have my own opinion without it being attacked for no reason. I’ve used this example a couple of times already but Mike completely overreacted (as did I) about Jeter, but nobody attacked him. Because he’s part of the regular group. I’m not so I don’t have the right on here to comment without being ragged on.
To be fair, every win matters. Just look at the Rangers right now.
thank you. i’ve said it over and over but we lost the al east by 1 game last year. April 5th or the last game of the season all count the same.
get ready for the first walk off of the year, guys.
Tex HR?
I think Girardi had a “Stan The Caddy” moment there or something.
It’s too the Yanks couldn’t score past the 1st two innings
Somebody should wake up the yankees’ offense
I don’t know why everybody is on Girardi on this one. Sure, I wouldn’t have brought in Soriano but this is all on Soriano. With Rivera behind you, you allow a homerun before you allow a walk
True, just the whole bringing in Soriano thing today with a four run lead is just a little weird considering he pitched yesterday.
I agree with that but you really can’t argue with going for the win. Soriano didn’t do his job, that’s that
True, Soriano did not execute and Robertson got unlucky.
CC never struck me as a stats guy, but losing a sure-fire WIN must irk him right now. He’ll get some breaks down the line and win a game or two he’d lose otherwise if he were on a different team.
Robertson should return for the 9th.
Nah, he knows he’ll get a few 7-6 wins that he doesn’t really deserve a W for. These things tend to even out.
In all honestly, being ticked off at losing a W would be a douchebag move, and from all accounts CC is way too good a guy to act like that.
I think pitchers would only worry about personal wins in relation to making money on their next contract (as in W=$), and that is surely something that CC doesn’t have to worry about.
He does have that opt out this year.
Well better to get the managing gaffes out of the way early
well, I don’t understand mo in the ninth. Isn’t he s’posed to close?
A dollar for what Cash$$ thought about that 8th inning.
http://media.silive.com/yankee.....-large.jpg
first round pick
I remember when the going rate for a thought was a penny…oh, the good old days.
just misssssed it
Flaherty says it ‘didn’t have that good sound to it.” Sure wish we could tell, ’cause I was sorely disappointed.
:-/
Pie anyone?
hopefully
Nice billion runs we were definitely going to score.
I’m sure there was a VERY good reason Girardi let Soriano start that inning even though he had pitched yesterday and there was talk about his velocity going down.
/fucking sarcasm’d
With Alex cooled off , this team just might have to scratch out a run the old fashioned way: WALK, SB, SAC BUNT, SAC FLY, WIN!
…
I prefer the easier way. Cano or Jorge HR
Alex hit a home run yesterday. He hasn’t cooled off.
Oh I get it, clever.
THinking about it, it isnt really Girardi’s fault. He put faith in Soriano early in the season when he shouldn’t be tired to pitch a good inning. It is all on Soriano and his failure.
Soriano has pitched in every game the team has played except Hughes start. He was obviously tired, and had no business in there to begin with.
Girardi mistook game 5 of the regular season for a spring training game. Can happen to anyone.
The bullpen is going to be exhausted for tomorrow’s game. Girardi made a dumb decision, he should’t have started the 8th with Soriano in the first place. D-rob should have started it because he needed to get his work in.
I’m sure we’ll get a complete game out of Garcia
Good to know we only owe Soriano like, $36 million, right? Right?
Why does his contract matter? And “we” owe him nothing. Steinbrenner does
Do you get in free into YS 3.
Would your ticket be discounted if Soriano’s contract were for some reason terminated?
There is a chance it doesnt go geometric progression each year and instead it will be an arithmetic progression. Duh
There’s a better chance ticket prices are independent of on field payroll and more a function of real or perceived market value.
(Subtitled: Soriano’s contract does not affect your 2011 ticket prices.)
By that ARod’s or Jeter’s contracts don’t matter.
They have no effect over me whatsoever
If this game goes to extra innings, I sure hope Garcia has a complete game in him tommorow.
Garcia’s gonna have to throw a complete game tomorrow night.
That would be a miracle of epic proportion. I was hoping for at least 5 innings with 4 runs or less.
Jason fucking Kubel is Mo’s Kryptonite.
what was that cut in of the mets game? lol
From airing of Grievences article at the beginning of the season.
Rafael Soriano will blow a save.
Soriano will blow a lead in the eighth.
It sucks but its only the 5th game of the season, long time to go, and at least we aren’t the red sox right now.
And at least he didn’t blow a lead against the Red Sox.
Can you imagine?
I think most are more annoyed by Robertson not getting any play and once again being overlooked in the perfect spot for him to get work. While also resting Mo and Soriano for the next 5 games before an off day.
Posada with the walk-off.
Pedroia single, AGon up, calling the tying homer based on how this night is going.
Awww. Mariano is such a great fielder. It makes 2001 even more inexplicable.
The Yankees have Boone Logan and Luis Ayala left in the bullpen.
They better win it in regulation.
What about the man-child Colon? (kidding)
He’s rightfully being saved for piggy-backing Garcia tomorrow.
Colon.
that was so nasty
I don’t really understand why you take out D-Rob now
Because its baseball custom. At home use the closer in the ninth
Rivera is a pretty good pitcher maybe?
he is alright i guess
god I love Mo so much it hurts sometimes
Pie would be awesome.
I get it. For a moment Girardi mistakenly thought Soriano was Old Hoss Radbourn.
Burnett better loosen up because we’re gonna need some pie pretty soon.
Rivera isn’t pitching tomorrow anyway, let him pitch the 10th Joe.
Mariano makin them look stuuuuuupd
I can’t believe how a hitter of Kubel’s caliber has the success he has against Mariano. Fascinating.
Was it Luis Sojo who Pedro could never seem to get out?
Enrique Wilson.
Enrique Wilson, I think.
See another situation where the pitcher should dominate. Gotta love it.
Mariano: still the greatest.
Don’t steal Hannah’s line.
Jorge or Cano go deep
Mo is awesome. That’s my silver lining.
Robbie.
Would Colon be available for long relief tomorrow? If not they’ll probably bring up someone who can throw for a long time to back up Garcia right?
Isnt today Hughes’ throw day
Am ready for a walk off win.
wheres the offense
right down the middle Russell
You know what I would love? A Brett Gardner walk-off homer
In other news, Austin Kearns strikes out in the 8th but Indians win.
Thuuuuuhhhh Indians win!!!!!!!!!!
The 2011 World Series Champs drop another one.
Sox lose! at least something went right tonight
O course we have extra innings in a Twins game.
Ack. We have Boone Logan and Luis Ayala left in the pen, the Twins have Nathan.
Blah
Now that the Sox have started the season 0-4 we can stop the comparison to the 1998 Yankees.
Oh Shit! They are the 98 Yankees.
Nah, they started out 1-3. We’re safe!
That just means they’re *better* than the ’90 Yanks. Bunch of gritty bastards.
And of course that should be ’98.
My bad. I should of figured out that their 0-4 start means they’re going to win 115 games
Nope. We moved on to 1-4 and when the Sox win their first game they’ll reference that.
It’s already on twitter. “Hay guyz 98 yankz were 1-4z that r meanz 11 soxx wi11 w1n 130 gam3s.”
The worst was “Well I’ve seen the Red Sox do pretty well from 0-3 before…” grr
Yeah but the 1998 Yankees went 0-3 then won their first game. It will take the Red Sox at least five games to win their first game. Of course this just means those scrappy underdogs will be that much better.
at least the No Sox lost
put Swish on the mound
ayala really fucks up the bullpen naming. everybody can be included except him. CoLoRoJoSoMo
Well he’ll be gone once we get Feliciano. So CoDroLoRoJoSoMo.
How lame was John Sterling’s call for Andruw Jones Hr.
“Jones is the Bones”
That’s totally weak.
Is he an MMA fan?
Boone? Jesus Girardi.
Only 5th game but what a crappy one
I fully expect JOhn Kruk to declare CC is in trouble because he has not won a game yet…
You know throwing the ball over the strike zone will make the game a lot less painful.
Girardi right out of the later Torre years playbook.
god dammit Logan your job is to get out the lefty. What do you do? Give a lead-off walk to said lefty…
If the Twins win this game, they were a bit due for a break or two at YS.
/rationalization
that was some ugly bunting
again with the walks
Fucking shit
This just fucking weak!
FANTASTIC!
Oh man. Do i miss FELICIANO.
The Red Sox are 0-4.
The headline at WEEI.com says “Time to panic?”
http://player.streamtheworld.c.....r/?id=WEEI
There’s going to be some priceless radio tonight.
Sad face.
cmon laying down a bunt is simple math
oh my god, an 0-2 fastball right down the middle. This is such bullshit.
I just had a feeling our chances of winning were slim when they tied it up…
I kinda miss seeing Boone Logan get guys out.
John Sterling is bumming me out.
That was a double play.
Boone Logan makes me sad.
Likewise.
Ballgame. Thanks for the loss, Joe.
Ballgame. Thanks for the loss,
Joebullpen.Fixed. Bullpens giving up four runs in an inning is ALWAYS unacceptable.
So is letting obviously tired relievers throw 35 pitches in the 5th game of the season.
Just laughing at this point. The bullpen has been terrible today.
Damn.
looks like an 85-win team to me
really?
Seriously?
From one game?
On April 5th?
God i can’t wait until we get Feliciano back so we can DFA this fucking scrub, clearly last years second half was a fluke.
As soon as I heard Logan was coming in, I knew. I swear I knew. I just knew. Jesus,
Logan’s the worst. Where’s Felix Heredia?
Anytime I needed two walks and a hit batsman, I knew who to call!
Wait, what?????????? Luis Aylaya????????
Well played, Mauer…unfortunately.
White flag. Awesome.
Knicks win!! 4th straight baby!
Logan is hot trash
Twins have turned the corner. They’re ready to kick ass at YS III.
/jumpingtoconclusionsafter2badinnings
meh that’s what people said about the Kubel slam game, that the Twins would beat us in the postseason now. Didn’t happen.
what a clusterfuck
fire Girardi
THis loss wasnt on Girardi. Its on the bullpen being unable to get anybody out
Soriano has pitching a lot…D-rob was fresh…Girardi waits til bases loaded at high leverage situation to bring him in rather than mo our best reliever…No matter what Girardi makes no sense in his moves.
A terribly mismanaged game by Joe Girardi. There was no reason to go to Soriano in the 8th. None whatsoever. Either keep CC in there, or get someone like Robertson in there. Soriano should be used when you need to get to Mariano, as he was used yesterday. He’s not who you bring in in a 4-0 game. He then proceeds to waste Robertson and Mariano and now has a whole lot of nothing to finish the game with. It’s only you game and, hey, we haven’t even seen the second half of the inning yet, but I’d pin the loss straight on the manager tonight if it happens.
What if Robertson didnt get anybody out? Girardi went with his best pitcher and he failed him
That’s what I don’t get. All of the other options are inferior to Soriano (assuming no one is suggesting putting in Mo). He just didn’t have it tonight. That’s on Soriano and not Girardi.
A true shut down bullpen shouldn’t have a hole that Soriano was the only option to pitch the 8th…
There is no such thing as a “true shut down bullpen”
You’re the manager. You bring in your 8th inning guy for the 8th inning and….you screwed up? How?
your 8th inning guy had already pitched in 2 of the previous 3 games, I would say common sense dictates letting him rest 3 days before using him again.
Really? The guy the Yankees are paying $10 a season to shut down the 8th inning is the wrong move? Interesting perspective.
Yeah when you could pay one tenth of that to get similar production.
A 4-0 game isn’t a shutdown situation. That’s precisely my point. Save him for when it is a shutdown situation. That’s an inning in which you utilize a David Robertson. What would his role be, at this point, otherwise?
BTW….it should have read “It’s only one game” in my post above.
Let’s hope they make this all for nothing and win it in the bottom of the 10th. Go Yanks.
Ummm, you’re wrong. A 4-0 game is a close game. We just saw that tonight. He went with his best and he lost.
So why doesn’t Mo just pitch the 7th 8th and 9th today?
Consider, though: what was he going to do in the 9th? If Rivera had come in to pitch, non-save, this website would have exploded. I understand your point, but I am curious about the endgame.
The end-game is Soriano was supposed to shut down the 8th, and then he would would have mixed and matched in the 9th, and at the sign of any failure, he’d have brought in Mo. Soriano didn’t have it. I suppose he could have gone with Robertson in the 8th, but then we’d have the failure of Soriano in the 9th. It’s pretty simple. Soriano didn’t have it. Not Girardi’s fault. It’s going to happen.
Except for the fact that if he’d gone with Robertson in the 8th and then handed it off to Soriano in the 9th, Girardi *would* have brought Mo in to bail Soriano out of the situation that positively SCREAMED for your best pitcher to come in and get you out of.
Well, actually that’s not entirely true, Girardi would have brought in Mo far sooner in the 9th than he went to Robertson in the 8th.
Yet, it all comes back to Soriano not doing the job he’s supposed to do, which is shut down the eighth for a Yankee win. He didn’t do it. This will happen with him (and others) during the season. It happened tonight. It’s not Girardi’s fault for going with the guy who is supposed to own the eighth inning this year.
People are upset because the Yankees lost. They could have just as easily lost if Robertson came in, didn’t do his job, and then Soriano was called in, and then blew the game. The fans would probably be upset that Girardi went first with his weaker pitcher in Robertson.
Every scenario falls apart if Soriano pitches like crap, as he did. As noted, he’s being paid a lot of money to shut down the opposition in the 8th. He just didn’t have it tonight. People will just have to live with that.
No. It’s not.
This concludes this edition of “Point/Counterpoint.”
So what if Robertson cant get anybody out. People would be screaming at Girardi fro not using Soriano
Exactly. Soriano walked three men, and then D-Rob gave up a blooper down the rightfield line. There is some massive logic fail going on with a lot of posters here.
This couldn’t have been a more frustrating loss.
Even more frustrating about this loss is that it hasn’t happened yet.
Haha, that’s the worst part!
yeah giradi, make some more moves…..douchebag
Maybe 87, 88. What a surprise! The pitching is a concern!
This isnt all Giradi’s fault the bullpen hasnt been the one getting the outs
Girardi’s going to have a fun time explaining this one in the post-game. It’s one game in April but, boy, you don’t ever want to transform a 2 hit shut-outby your ace into an extra-inning loss with no off days to rest your bullpen this week…going into a weekend in Fenway. There is such a thing as context.
i dont expect them to go 162 and 0, but when you have a 4 to 0 lead after your ace just dominated a team…you should win that game. whether its game 1, 5, 37, 157 of the effing year.
thattaboy Ayala!
big out here.. keep it a 1 run game
should have gone to Ayala in the 8th stupid Girardi
I hope this is sarcasm
obviously
I like the new graphic they use for the bench and bullpen with the names crossed out.
We need some ARod magic but of course he won’t get up.
So who is available tommorow anyway?
Probably everyone.
god with all the other shit going on, you cant give the damn call umpire? Jesus
what the fuck
Jeter has never had pie….its time tonight in front of the 3 fans at yankee stadium
Rumor has it he’s had plenty of pie.
http://instantrimshot.com/
What would you have Girardi do? Put in David Robertson and see him struggle or put in Soriano who was an All Star last year. The move didn’t work. If it worked we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
I would assume Robertson would not struggle just as you and Girardi assumed Soriano would not struggle. All I know is you don’t throw your high-leverage guys in low-leverage situations. If Robertson struggles THEN you bring in Soriano.
Would you assume MORE that Robertson wouldn’t struggle than Soriano wouldnt struggle.
The game I saw had Robertson give up a frustrating bloop single and get the next guy out.
WHo do you trust more? A middle reliever or an All Star?
So why not go Mo? If the argument is go with your best why am I not hearing that we should have went Mo?
Becasue Mo is 40. You get him rest whenever you can. Soriano is 31. He should be able to hadle himself.
And that’s the bottom line because Greg said so.
Yet apparently he couldn’t.
Huh? By this token, Girardi should be putting Rivera in the 6th every day and have him finish the game.
Soriano pitched -yesterday-. It was a -4- run lead. After Soriano walked a guy, then walked another guy, maybe it was a bad idea to let him stay in the game to throw over 30 pitches when it was obvious he had nothing?
Awful awful awful bullpen management.
This is an extremely frustrating loss because a) Girardi shouldn’t have put Soriano in but b) you can’t really blame Girardi for the loss because c) Soriano, our best addition to the team, totally imploded.
sorry, should have said if we lose
Kubel against everyone else .125, against the Yanks .850
One run is doable guys-keep the faith! It looks like the Trop in the stands
Cy Ayala gets out of the inning. Get this done.
Damn the Mets for abusing our second lefty out of the pen. I bet they did this intentionally to f*ck with us.
Time to make the Twins miserable by scoring a couple runs here.
still hoping on some magic against Nathan
Kubal< Ayala…somewhere I am hearing "You just can't predict baseball".
way to get it done Ayala
gotta pick up the manager with this one tonight
“gotta pick up soriano with this one tonight”
ftfy
DOOM DOOM DOOM. GIRARDI SUCKS. BOONE LOGAN SUCKS. YANKEES SUCK.
/most people here
I mean, c’mon Soriano pitched poorly, but if not for a lucky bloop double, the Yankees have won. Let’s not get carried away. Zen baseball.
well said.
Agree completely. Still think bringing Soriano in was a bad move, but tomorrow’s a new day.
Joe Nathan implosion please
Im hoping to see “#cured” at some point in the next few comments.
Shake Joe Nathan, with a one run lead?
This is doable.
that only had a nasty factor of 21, he CLEARLY doesn’t have his best stuff tonight
Sarcasm is like a second language to me, so i’m right there with ya.
but seriously do you have any idea what that means?
I looked it up. Basically, it was MLB.com’s way of ensuring that their new version of Gameday wasn’t perfect.
That Jeter has a chance here.
ok guys…..this guy is meat
I hate watching that lip thing Nathan does.
Surprise surprise Gardy
What Girardi did was unusual, but it certainly wast egregious. Calm down. We are not Red Sox fans
It was highly dubious however.
So only Red Sox fans are allowed to question their manager for making retarded decisions during a game?
I’m not calling for the guy’s head. But it was a stupid move, and one that’s made by MANY managers constantly in the same situation. So he’s certainly not alone
It wasnt a retarded decision. He went with his best 8th inning pitcher. The pitcher failed Girardi.
And that is the crux of the issue.
In that type of situation, with the game on the line, why not go to your BEST AVAILABLE PITCHER period??? The moment the bases became loaded and their heart of the lineup was on the way was when it was time to go to your BEST available pitcher. Not to David Robertson.
Is it too much to ask the Yankees to score a couple of runs here even though it’s past the first two innings?
They’re old men; they get tired early.
That’s no excuse
come on Cap’n.. show us some clutchness!
Too bad the offensive black hole is due up
If his name were Derek Reter, he’d be watching Eric Chavez take his PA right here.
Chavez > Jeter > Eckstein
What am I even saying?
Eh, not even overall, but when you have a righty pitching, a 1 run defecit and a tiny little RF porch, Chavez is the obvious better option.
Both remaining fans in the stands booed that pitch.
Would have been nice to see the offense get to Duensing more.
Of course, they got to him in that playoff game, so I will survive.
Let’s make one thing clear: Soriano is no Mariano. Soriano STUNK tonight. Disgusting
Goosfraba…goosfraba.
Thanks for clearing that up.
You must be one of those fans that doesn’t remember Mariano doing just what Soriano did tonight.
I’m lol @ anyone who thought that he was Mariano.
With that said, i didn’t expect him to have a perfect 0.00 ERA this season.
Clearly DJ’s too wrapped up in figuring out which East Coast palace he’ll upgrade next.
/hank’d
valiant AB here from Jeter but I can’t help feeling no confidence at all
Fuck
Jeter = worst $15M+ player in baseball.
Damn, this was on Soriano.
April 5: Not mentally or emotionally prepared for a kick-in-the-balls loss.
ugh-lee
Again, you people will blame Giradi when all he did was put his best 8th inning pitcher in the eighth. Obviously you dont really want to put the blame where it really lies
He should have taken Soriano out earlier…it was quite obvious the guy didn’t have it. He had other options…then when the game got to a high leverage situation rather than go to his Best pitcher (Mo) he goes to D-rob…who is no where as good as mo obviously….
+42
You know what? Our bullpen was bound to implode at some point, Girardi makes stupid moves every year, and we’re not an overrated team thats 0-4. Which is why I’m already over it. This loss just sucks because Cc pitched so well
Welp, that sucked.
I’m irrationally upset right now
First upsetting loss of the year. It’s natural.
What happened Jeet? You used to be the guy we could count on?
Well that sucked. Let’s just forget this every happened.
ever, damnit. ever.
I’m done with this team. I’m a Natinals fan now.
Well played Maur.
I’m going with the Brewers. They probably need a few fans about now.
and as i say that, we lose. This loss could not be more frustrating. I blame the bullpens utter shittiness (asides from Mo of course) and Girardi’s retarded managing. What a waste of a great performance from CC. Logan has been annoyingly bad.
Glad I made it back just in time for strike three…NOT!
Oh, well. Game 5 brought us a reminder of the painful part of baseball.
God, this loss hurts. Why? Not because we blew a big lead.
Because Joe Girardi blew this one, not the players.
I’m not a Girardi hater or anything, but he blew this.
8th inning: WHY DON’T YOU GO TO MO THERE? WHY ROBERTSON? THAT’S THE MOST IMPORTANT OUT OF THE GAME, WHY NOT USE YOUR BEST PITCHER?!!?!?!
10th inning: What the hell is Boone Logan doing out there? He has shown NOTHING this year, why not bring Joba who has shown good stuff at least? And then when Logan blows it, why go with Ayala? I mean he got the job done but still was not a good move.
Joe Girardi earns his first blown save of the year. Congrats to him.
1. Because he didn’t want Rivera to go more than 1 inning for the save.
2. Lefty matchups
SO TAKE HIM OUT AFTER THE EIGHTH!! WHO CARES ABOUT THE SAVE, I WANT THE WIN!!
Head’s up: all caps doesn’t go over well here.
sorry, but i’m pissed. big time. i get that it’s one game but it always pisses me off when you lose when you could have won
That I will give you. But if Robertson blows it, blame will come on Girardi anyway
That really, really sucked but it’s one game. Ugh.
Seconded.
True. But it was a really ugly one. Like Jim Thome ugly.
Hey man, Jim Thome is only ugly if you look directly at him. Cut the guy some slack.
Agreed. It hurt. But I can’t get raeeeege-y about it. It’s just not in my personality. I questioned bringing in Soriano, I did, but it certainly wasn’t an inexcusable decision. He probably should’ve pulled Soriano earlier, but you can disagree without screaming about it and calling people douchetards because they are disagreeing with you in a calm way. Then the tying runs scored on a freaking poorly played pop fly. It suuuucks. It sucks a lot. But it happens.
Sanity: I like it!
I like sanity. And Kit. Hi Kit!
Hi Bexy! I thought you were mad at me ’cause you didn’t say hi. I was all *sadface*. I like Bexy too. =)
Haha no, sadly enough I tend to stay away from the RAB game threads these days. You can imagine why D: But I would not be mad at you!
Proof! http://twitter.com/#!/rebexara.....5956737024
Aww…I wish more of my real life friends were on twitter so they could pressure me to join. =)
I have 0 RL friends on Twitter and it’s still the greatest thing.
I’m not a very interesting person though, so I’m hesitant.
I just saw this, and I wanted to say I am the most boring person on earth (and you are interesting!
) but Twitter is great.
160-2
It really sucks that I think I would rather anyone in the lineup at that last ab rather than jeter, what a bummer that game was
me too. he came up and i prayed for a walk, this from a guy making 15MM+
Can we all agree that bringing in Soriano was a stupid move not because it lessened our chances of winning (that was an anomaly), but because it seemed to add an unnecessary appearance onto Soriano’s ledger? I feel like a lot of people are getting why it was dumb completely wrong.
Anyone else think something was fishy when Soriano came out?
Now that the Twins have reversed the curse, can the Yankees start playing serious baseball against them instead of expecting them to just bend over and let us win?
How does constantly beating the Twins translate to “expecting them to bend over”? Are you suggesting the Yankees lost because they assumed the Twins wouldn’t try to win?
It was a dumb comment but I’m pissed. The Yankees should have won tonight.
I understand.
I thought they reversed the curse with the Kubel slam
That loss is all on Joe Girardi. When Soriano is removed from the ballgame with the bases loaded you bring in your best reliever to put out the fire! Mo doesn’t have to pitch the 9th, just let him get out of that jam. With a 3 run lead they could bring in Robertson to close out the 9th. Girardi just doesn’t get it.
That’s a nice name. Is that Dutch?
lmao
+1
I agree. Girardi is painfully narrow and predictable, always by the books…
Why was Soriano in the game? “Because he’s our 8th inning guy.”
Time for a new manager. That is pure stupidity.
I thought that was a dumb comment by Girardi as well, but let’s calm it down, cowboy.
That being said, this is not my favorite Girardi post-game conference in the least. What’s in that Poland Spring bottle?
Erik Spoelstra just said there are Yankee players crying in the locker room.
I laughed again.
How dare Girardi put in his 8th inning guy in the 8th inning? How could he not have Mo come in for a 1+ inning save in the all important 4th game of the season? String up Girardi!
At least we can all agree the Soriano’s honeymoon is over. Hope he’s ready for the media…they’ll smell blood in the water.
Because it’s ****ing stupid to have an ’8th inning guy’.
It’s the FIFTH game of the season and the guy was used YESTERDAY. It was obvious on his FIRST batter that he was missing his spots by feet, not inches.
EVERYBODY has an 8th inning guy. They are called setup men.
Smart managers have more than one ‘setup man’ who they can use when, oh, I don’t know, their main guy is tired.
Well our bullpen is not that deep so…
Um, yes, it is. David Robertson was available.
The same media who bashed Cashman for not wanting to give up his draft pick?
Error 1: Buying into “8th inning guy”
Error 2: 5th game of the season
Error 3: String would likely not hold Girardi “up”
Bad loss…….but better to get them out of the way early in the year. Hats off to CC who got the ultimate kick to the balls from his ineffective BP. 4 run lead in the 8th should’ve been gravy.
If anything Girardi could be blamed for, it was not yanking Soriano earlier. You know what, I compare this to Brad Stevens last night from Butler. He has some blame, but he didn’t miss open layups and shots
Folks, when a 42 year old Mariano Rivera is healthy, relatively fresh and pitching effectively 6 months from now (in the middle of October) a big part of the reason will be because Girardi didn’t bring him in for 4 out saves in April.
IT DOESN’T NEED TO BE A 4 OUT SAVE, JUST LET HIM GET ONE OUT AND YANK HIM!!! THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAY OF THE GAME, NOT THE NINTH INNING!
OK, lets walk through this. You’ve already used Soriano and Mo. You’ll bring in either Joba or D-Rob for the 9th. What happens if they get in trouble?
I’ll tell you what happens, you have a lesser pitcher (D-Rob) backing up a lesser pitcher (Ayala) backing up a lesser pitcher (Colon). Which is the opposite of good bullpen management. The whole idea behind managing your bullpen is to have someone better backing up the gut who’s in thre, which is why you save your best, the Closer, for last.
Let’s try that again
“The whole idea behind managing your bullpen is to have someone better backing up the guy who’s in there, which is why you save your best, the Closer, for last.”
OK, it’s not me. It’s an RAB thing.
what’s more likely, robertson gives up 3 with the bases loaded and 2 out, or robertson gives up 3 runs with a clean slate in the beginning of the ninth? ponder that
How about when we’re paying Rafael Soriano for two seasons of recovery from an arm injury?
I’m glad Mo wasn’t used. I just don’t get why we have to use Soriano when supposedly we acquired the best bullpen ever in MLB history.
To be honest, and I’m not trying to start an argument or a discussion or anything, but I doubt Joe sent Soriano out there to suck intentionally (not saying that you said that at all, just trying to make a point). I’m just making assumptions, but when Soriano looks better out there and is far less shaky than D. Rob and Boone for an inning, I’m guessing Joe would pick the person with a) the most experience and b) who looked better. I agree that part of the blame should fall on Girardi for not being as cautious as he usually is with his relievers, but I would’ve also rather have seen Soriano out there at that moment than Boone, Ayala, D. Rob and Colon. We didn’t know he was going to be completely terrible and neither did Joe. The blame should fall on both parties equally.
Mo pitched the 9th. He was used.
If anyone hears Girardi’s rationale for using Soriano tonight, let us know. I’m not watching the YES post-game report. I’ll laugh my ass off if he uses the line, “he’s our 8th inning guy.” Cashman might need to have a chat with him then.
He said “Because he’s our 8th inning guy” about five times.
He said that pretty much verbatim.
Guess that Northwestern education didn’t amount to much, eh?
Here’s hoping for a Garcia CG tomorrow. Oy.
Basically what all of you are saying is that you trust David Robertson more than Rafael Soriano.
I trust a FULLY RESTED David Robertson over a TIRED Rafael Soriano. Yes, I am saying that.
He pitched one day ago. No one should be tired after that. Look at Mo. I dont think he was tired, he was just off.
Soriano had a .227 OBP against last year on 0 days rest.
I believe thats a very good number.
Yup. So even if Soriano were “tired”, he was a good option. He just didn’t have it today. Such is life.
Fully rested? He has warmed up multiple times every game so far. He may not throw full power warmups but I’m sure it takes its toll.
I trust David Robertson with a 4 run lead in a week where there are no off days and I can afford to give both Soriano and Mo a rest. You don’t treat game 5 like it’s the f*cking playoffs.
So if Robertson blew it, would you blame Girardi for not bringing in Soriano? Be honest.
When have I ever lied to you, Greg? But if Robertson loaded the bases with walks, he’d have every reason to bring Soriano in. Higher leverage situations call for your best relievers. That’s the way it’s supposed to work. You’re advocating the reverse. It was unnecessary. With a 4 run lead in the 8th inning, you figure you can get six outs without having to go straight to Soriano & Mo.
It was unusual and maybe even dubious. I’m not saying I wasn’t surprised by it. I’m saying it wasn’t absolutely stupid and egregious as alot of people on here are making it out to be.
What are you using, a thesaurus? I don’t care how you characterize it. It was an unnecessary move that cost the team a game they had easily in hand and will preclude using Soriano and possibly Mo tomorrow in a game that might very well need their contributions…unlike tonight.
Well I’m glad Proctor is back on the team.
I can think of no profession outside of baseball where it’s accepted practice to be a fucking moron.
Television meteorologist.
Some of Joe Girardi’s moves are questionable but he’s not a moron. The Yankees were leading by 4 runs and CC had retired the last 17 in a row. Sure, Soriano pitched yesterday, but it seemed like the Yankees were cruising to victory and Soriano was brought here and is getting paid $36 million to pitch in situations like this. And if he can’t get the job done 2 nights in a row, that’s not Girardi’s fault. And putting Boone Logan in to pitch in the 10th wasn’t exactly a moron move either considering he was one of their best options at that point.
I’m with many of you on this – it wasn’t a save situation and we didn’t need Soriano. Damnit, Girardi. I know this is only April but I don’t like seeing unnecessary losses like this coming back to bite us later in the year.
I’m angrier with the offense than BP. Proposed new lineup
Gardner
swisher
teixeira
arod
cano
posada
granderson
jeter
maybe switch gardy and grandy just get jeter to the bottom
Not going to happen for a long time, Yanks would never do that to Jeter unless he REALLY sucks it up for a prolonged period.
I agree with you thats what it should be, but its just not realistic at this point.
Soriano should not be an “8th inning guy.”. He’s a set up man. If you don’t plan on bringing in your closer you don’t put in your set up man
What’s with the italics? Did I miss a memo?
Someone forgot to close a tag, probably.
Will this work
Hmmm …
Swisher did a bad job on that pop fly double. He can’t let that ball get behind him. Only two runs should have scored on that play and the Yanks still would’ve had the lead. Watch the play again and you can put as much blame for tonight’s loss on Swisher as anyone.
I’ve seen Girardi make really stupid decisions. This was not one of his more stupid decisions. It was unusual, but it was not one of his more stupid decisions
I’m a Joe Girardi supporter, I think he’s a good manager who is prone to very costly mental errors
tonight was one of them.
1. relievers do not have stamina to go out constantly with little to no rest. Soriano had already pitched in 2 of the previous 3 games, he had no business out there tonight, especially in a 4 run game.
2. Robertson is a good reliever, but he had not been used in almost a week, he had no business being thrown into his Houdini cape when he is rusty. Especially when we all know D-Rob is prone to letting guys get on base, before retiring everyone else (Its his MO).
3. Robertson should have been given the top of the 8th, he would have either done his job completely or at the very least gotten 2 men out, allowing either any of the scrub relievers (Logan, Ayala) to get the remaining outs and if necessary use So or Mo as last resorts since they both had already pitched so much in the previous games.
No more italics!
I may be one of the only ones, but I am not that upset about the loss. I am not worried about Soriano, the offense is still sputtering and wildly inconsistent, and we have a couple scrubs in the BP that wont be there in a month.
CC looked mid-season form already.
Tex’s start is incredible.
Jones looked serviceable.
So many guys simply aren’t hitting yet (Grandy, Cano, Brett, Jete) that at this point there is nothing to get worked up about.
It’s a frustrating loss anyway you look at it. The Yankees absolutely should have won.
Joba pitch on Sunday and Monday.
Why didn’t anyone complain about that?
You’re only complaining about Soriano because it didn’t work out.
Try to be consistent.
Strange, Mo blew the game but he gets off with “well, it happens a few times a season,” but Girardi gets reamed for using his most experienced pitcher to try to save it? I can’t see any way Joe gets the blame for this. How the heck is Gardy supposed to come out of his slump if he’s benched? It’s only April. And I am ALREADY tired of the second-guessing and bitching here!