Game Five: Andruw’s debut


(AP Photo/David Goldman)

Depending on who you ask, the Yankees have three players right now that should get into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, and Mariano Rivera are the easy picks, but they aren’t the only guys on the roster with Cooperstown-worthy credentials. As good as CC Sabathia and Mark Teixeira are, fourth outfielder Andruw Jones has had a more distinguished career than any of them. From 1998 through 2006 (age 21-29), Jones averaged .270/.347/.513 (.365 wOBA) with 35 homers, 12 steals, and an unfathomable 25.5 defensive runs saved per season. It doesn’t get much better than that.

Unfortunately, Jones is no longer that player. He’s with the Yankees as a spare part, a guy whose sole purpose in life is to spot start against left-handed pitching, a job he may or may not be qualified for. He’s making his first start of the season tonight, adding to a lineup that has tattooed Twins’ starter Brian Duensing in each of the last two postseasons. The Yankees don’t need Andruw to be a cornerstone player, he just needs to take care of business at the bottom of the lineup.

Death, taxes, and the Yankees beating the Twins. The only certainties in life. Here’s the starting lineup…

Derek Jeter, SS
Nick Swisher, RF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Robbie Cano, 2B
Jorge Posada, DH
Russell Martin, C
Andruw Jones, LF
Curtis Granderson, CF

First pitch is scheduled for 7:05pm ET, and the game can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Pat D says:

    Looks like another fun night of work ahead. Please make this easy, guys.

  2. Matt says:

    super jinx anyone?

  3. CMP says:

    I think Andruw Jones should make the HOF someday. Most people would consider Manny Ramirez a sure fire 1st ballot HOFer (PED issues aside) and he has 72 career WAR compared to 70.5 for Andruw Jones.
    Ozzie Smith made the Hall almost for his glove alone and AJ was just about his equivalent at an equally important position.

  4. Sort, semi-relevant story: Went to Curaçao on my honeymoon cruise. Andruw Jones is like a national hero there. The island tourbus trip stopped by his mini-mansion and pointed it out with pride.

    Interesting aside related to that short, semi-relevant story: You are not allowed to buy land in Curaçao, you can only lease your land from the government for a fixed term of years (I think it’s 99 years). So eventually, that house/land will revert back to the government.

  5. Monteroisdinero says:

    Good to have that smily smirk/smirky smile on our side for awhile. I wish him well but I still prefer Gardy playing everyday.

  6. Cy Pettitte says:

    Fernando Rodney lost his closer job already, hahahah, Jordan Walden taking over

  7. Timothy says:

    Over/under 41,000 at the game?

  8. kmarx says:

    This Russel Martin guy is pretty cool.

  9. _TheDream says:

    I know the past few games I’ve asked on the game threads where I can watch the Yankees on iPad in my house for those that have Optimum.

    Wanted to let those know (who care.. which might be few and far between) that I stumbled upon a new iPad Optimum App that allows you to watch live tv on it and the Yankees are included… i think this is similar to the Time Warner one that exists (I know Mike spoke about it in one of the threads when I asked). Looks like Dolan did something correct for once.

  10. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Those were the worst damn questions ever if you could ask a player. Which sport gets more hard hits? Come on. What a waste.

  11. jack says:

    anyone know when the free trial for mlb game package ends?

  12. JobaWockeeZ says:

    So is it just me or is the roll call easier to hear on TV this year?

  13. jack says:

    i know its 4 games but how dumb do the sox feel not willing to offer russell more than 4 mil to play salty every day instead

  14. MikeD says:

    Jones may get into the HOF one day, but he’s going to get dinged by voters who will discount his hitting because of the generation in which he played, and because getting elected to the Hall based on defense is diffucult, unless your name is Ozzie Smith or Brooks Robinson.

    Oddly, he’d have a better chance if he went the Marilyn Monroe route: Die young, stay pretty. Many voters will remember the lesser Jones we’ve seen the past few years.

  15. Cy Pettitte says:

    many stadium is empty, everyone just assumes they’ll beat the Twins so it’s not worth going , huh?

  16. Dela G says:

    just got home in time for the first pitch!


  17. Mike Axisa says:

    Nice Jetes, nice.

  18. Dela G says:

    jeter with a walk????

  19. OldYanksFan says:

    Over/Under: Jeter .750 OPS
    Over/Under: Jeter -20 URZ

  20. Dela G says:



  21. Cy Pettitte says:

    lol Gardenhire trying to hold it together


  22. Mike HC says:

    He is out of his mind. April what !

  23. VO says:

    Slow starts in April?

  24. MannyGeee says:

    wow, Teix is a manimal.

  25. jorge brosada says:

    This offense is so good

  26. JerseyDutch says:

    Wow. Just wow.

  27. Hummingbird S. says:


  28. Kit says:

    Damn, Tex. You’re going to spoil me with these home runs. Also, hello everyone.

  29. pete says:

    holy moly

  30. Naved says:

    I was there yesterday, it gets cold with the wind chill.

    • CBean says:

      honestly i was there on Sunday and it was freezing in the grandstands with the wind and it was perfectly lovely out.

  31. MannyGeee says:

    not used to seeing A Rod not MURDER the ball…

  32. Esteban says:

    Maybe Duensing should have studied what he did wrong in the playoff game just a little more.

  33. That’s right, Tex, keep driving up that pricepoint for Adrian Gonzalez’s Red Sox extension.

  34. pastadivingarod says:

    Ok did MLB juice up the ball this season???

  35. MannyGeee says:

    yikes, bet Jorge wants that one back

  36. ColoYank says:

    It seems like one extreme or the other. Swish, Tex and Arod smash the ball, and Cano lunges at it.

    Good evening, TSJC. I missed your re-introduction last night.

  37. Dela G says:

    ha i remember that 3 homer barrage last year on may 8th against the sox

    good shit

  38. MannyGeee says:

    wow, Cuddyer… wow

  39. MannyGeee says:

    well, there goes the no-no

  40. Dela G says:

    well that sucked

    cmon, GIDP

  41. Mike Axisa says:

    Ack, he got the ground ball…

  42. Total Dominication says:

    Hello everyone. Finally able to watch a full game!

  43. Cy Pettitte says:

    from Olney – “Another scout on Jimmy Rollins: “He looks good, playing with a lot of energy. He looks like he will bounce back.””

    I found this entertaining

  44. Xstar7 says:

    Hey guys, the Red Sox aren’t the 1927 Yankees anymore. Now they’re the 1998 Yankees.


    • Dela G says:

      hahahahahahahahaha that man is delusional

    • Jerome S. says:

      It does make a good point. The Red Sox are a good team stumbling out of the gate. But the connotation that compares them to 1998 (peace be upon them) is… i don’t like.

    • Urban says:

      It’s interesting that PeteAbe adds “no one is predicting the Red Sox will win 114 games,” since that’s pretty much what the Boston media has been predicting, wondering if they might be the greatest team ever assembled, destined to break the single-season runs scored record, while winning 118 games!

  45. Urban says:

    Are the Twins in for a three-game series or four? Wondering if Thursday is an off day for the Yankees.

  46. smurfy says:

    Alexi complies. I like that guy, but he wasn’t ready.

  47. _TheDream says:

    Anyone have a link to the story discussing Teixeira building a batting cage at his house this past offseason?

  48. Dela G says:

    good god, jones is only 33???


  49. Dela G says:

    andrew jones smash!!!

  50. VO says:


  51. jorge brosada says:

    welcome to the yankees Andruw!

  52. Cy Pettitte says:

    shitty spring training what?

  53. karcotte says:

    Welcome to the Bronx Andruw.

  54. Xstar7 says:

    Woah. Is it 1996?

  55. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Yay Jones. Kay ruins it by some weird 96 reference.

  56. mike c says:

    anybody with the sterling call?

  57. brazilian fan says:


  58. Hummingbird S. says:

    Welcome Mr. Jones!

  59. Sterling’s call for Jones? Anyone?

  60. Tank the Frank says:

    Andruw! Congratulations on a job…done.

  61. Red "The Strawman" Herring says:

    That’s a hell of a debut, Andruw. Keep it up.

  62. Hmmm says:


  63. Dave says:

    Cashman is a genius!

  64. JerseyDutch says:

    Too early to call this the Year of the Home Run?

  65. Esteban says:

    Random story about Andruw Jones: I met him while at a laser tag place in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee about 10 years ago.

    • Tank the Frank says:

      Good God that is random. Laser tag in Tennessee with Andruw Jones. Sounds like a Family Guy joke.

      • Esteban says:

        Yeah, I couldn’t believe it either. It was cool to meet him but I still kind of hated him because of the Braves-Yankees WS and what he did in ’96. He was rather rotund at the time too.

  66. Esteban says:

    Sterling’s call was apparently: “Andruw Jones makes his bones”

  67. jorge brosada says:

    yay for some Jeter BABIP

  68. Cy Pettitte says:


    that’s nice for a change

  69. Camilo Gerardo says:

    Captain with a booming single!

  70. Red "The Strawman" Herring says:

    I really don’t understand the Twins struggles against the Yankees this past decade. They play sound, fundamental baseball and they’ve got solid pitching. I guess we’re just their version of the LAA Angels.

    • Esteban says:

      They’ve had a lot of pitchers that pitch to contact and the pitchers usually kill those types of pitchers.

      • Esteban says:

        and the Yankees*

      • baravelli says:

        Pitcher on pitcher violence is the worst kind of violence.

      • Urban says:

        Yeah, but it still doesn’t add up. Shouldn’t be happening, yet it is.

      • Red "The Strawman" Herring says:

        I guess so, the only two pitchers they’ve had averaging over a 7.0 K/9 are Scott Baker and Francisco Liriano, and it gets worse as you go back in years with the exception of Johan. But with their defensive style and strong bullpen, you’d think they’d at least be competitive.

        • Accent Shallow says:

          They haven’t had the power arms in the back of the pen that the Angels did (non-Nathan division).

          Additionally, their good defensive players (Carlos Gomez) can’t typically hit. And Nick Punto ran into outs.

      • smurfy says:

        I think this is a misnomer. The smart pitcher sometimes shades a pitch so he could catch him unawares, and sometimes plays to the hitter’s perception of strength. CC sometimes looks to get the doubleplay, as I’ve heard from his interviews.

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      An anomaly perhaps. Can’t really explain it. Theyve got a good lineup with decent defense. The games they play are close most of the time so it could be bad luck.

  71. Januz says:

    Tex is starting off like an animal, I think if he stays healthy, he is going 40/110/120. Prediction: When his career is over, he may very well surpass Catfish Hunter, Goose Gossage, CC & Reggie Jackson as the greatest modern day, Free Agent every signed in the history of this franchise (Obviously names from the past like, Berra, Mantle, Ford & of course, Gehrig are above him).

    • Total Dominication says:

      What does 110/120 stand for?

      • JGS says:

        RBIs and runs scored? Two awesome ways to evaluate a player

        • Urban says:

          I was thinking walks and RBIs, but it might be runs scored.

        • Esteban says:

          Is there any other way? Maybe batting average?


        • YanksFan77 says:

          I forgot, a baseball game is decided after adding all the hit and walks each player gets, a calculating a team OPS. The team with the highest OPS after 9 innings is the winner!

          What a great game!

          • JGS says:

            Nononono, the previous games’ OPS is fed into various projection systems, the average of which is spit out as the next game’s results, all without leaving the spreadsheet.

            • YanksFan77 says:

              Let’s start a petition, and change this ridiculous game to one that makes sense, one where we don’t tally RUNS or care who drives them in.

              Who cares how many players cross home plate. I want to know when someone gets stranded on 2nd, after hitting a meaningless double with 2 outs, yeah, that’s excitement!

              • JGS says:

                runs scored being good things is not the same as runs scored being a good way of evaluating if someone was good or not, and literally no one, ever, has said that runs scored aren’t good things to accumulate.

                Jeter had more runs scored in 2010 than in 2009, and more RBIs in 2008 and 2010 than he had in 2009. Which one was his best year?

                • YanksFan77 says:

                  I’ve heard a number of times, such as your comment above, RUNS and RBI accumulated are not a good way to evaluate players.

                  How do you not evaluate a player who’s main objective is to win ballgames by scoring runs.

                  • Mike Axisa says:

                    Because RUNS and RBI are too dependent on the rest of the team. You can’t drive in a runner if there’s no one on base, and you can’t score a run if no one will drive you in.

                    • YanksFan77 says:

                      If your boss told you, you are being judged by the number of sales you make in a quarter. Then at the end of that quarter he says, “No, number of sales is not a good way to evaluate whether you get a bonus. Instead, we are going to evaluate you on metrics that support that one, such as, how fast and intelligently you can talk, how fast you get to the sales call, the percentage of proposals generated. Yes, all these things are used to make a sale, but the actual number of sales, the one that success of our company is judged on…well, that doesn’t really matter.”

                  • JGS says:

                    Because counting how many runs a guy scores, while of course a good thing, doesn’t evaluate the player. It evaluates the guys hitting behind him, who get hits with him on base. Hence Jeter having a much better year in 2009 when he scored fewer runs than he did in 2010. RBIs have the exact same problem–they evaluate the guys hitting before a player, not the player himself.

                    • TheLastClown says:

                      If you eat food off the ground after 6 seconds, rather than 5…..you metaphysically ruin the no-hitter.

                      Like slavery.

              • JobaWockeeZ says:

                Yeah we should instead of human memory which is never faulty and never biased in making decisions.

                • YanksFan77 says:

                  I don’t think anyone is saying scrap statistics. What I’m saying is, it is important how many times a player crosses the plate, and who gets him there. Runs and rbi as KEY measures, because ultimately, that’s the heart and soul of the game of baseball.

  72. NC Yankee Fan says:

    Answer to poll question:
    Brian Duensing?
    When he isn’t playing the Yankees

  73. Dela G says:

    great pitch, ZZ

  74. Mike Axisa says:

    CC could use a quick inning or two. Not that the pitch count is terrible, but a ten or 12 pitching frame would be nice.

  75. NC Yankee Fan says:

    Mutts are beating Hamels 6-0

  76. Xstar7 says:

    (After discussing Joe Mauer’s high school baseball career)

    Flaherty: So what did you hit in high school?

    Kay: The books.

    I bet Michael is real proud of that gem.

  77. Reggie C. says:

    Cooling off much?

  78. Accent Shallow says:

    Just got in, how hard were Jeter’s hits?

    • Red "The Strawman" Herring says:

      He’s been designated for assignment. Please welcome your new starting shortstop, Eduardo Nunez.

  79. NC Yankee Fan says:

    Answer to trivia question
    Roger Clemens?

  80. Mike Axisa says:

    That’s a good trivia question. I’m going to say David Cone.

  81. Tank the Frank says:

    It’s good to hear Flaherty at least admitting there may be another offspeed pitch besides a slider.

    • Chip says:

      It really pisses me off when the announcers call a change-up or curve ball a slider. I don’t know why but it just irks me

  82. NC Yankee Fan says:

    The last Yankee pitcher to win 40 games over two seasons. Not counting C.C.

  83. Mike Myers says:

    I hate these smoking commercials….make me wanna puke

  84. MikeD says:

    Nice easy inning. I wonder how pitches Girardi will let CC go tonight.

  85. jorge brosada says:

    CC rolling through

  86. Red "The Strawman" Herring says:

    Wow, Tommy John. Its been that long?

  87. NC Yankee Fan says:

    Tommy John, who would have guessed that?

  88. Dela G says:

    man, everyone keeps on staring at that breaking ball for strike 3

  89. Chip says:

    That was a good one. I guess it really is quite hard to win 40 games over two seasons

  90. Mike Myers says:

    I thought he would be to 80 pitches by now

  91. Cy Pettitte says:

    Letting Deunsing off easy

  92. jorge brosada says:

    Duensing seems to have settled down, glad we got those 4 runs on the board early

  93. Francis says:

    Guys, Mark Teixera has a Twitter.


    His Twitter account has the potential to be exciting and interesting as watching golf.

  94. Camilo Gerardo says:

    sit on the slider, druw!

  95. JimAbbottFan says:

    As much as I am enjoying this offense, I wouldn’t mind to see some non-HR RBIs mixed in. Right now it seems it’s either HR or nothing and obviously that can’t be maintained. A great “two birds with one stone” situation would involve Gardner/Jeter getting the ball rolling.

  96. Mike Myers says:

    The rays are getting killed again….

  97. Red "The Strawman" Herring says:

    After that trivia, I have a new found appreciation for how good the Arizona Diamondbacks were in 2001 and 2002. Johnson and Schilling had 45 wins each through those years.

  98. China Joe says:

    Flaherty said Josh Beckett is gonna have a “Josh Beckett year” ….ummm…what?

  99. Monteroisdinero says:

    Our #3 hitter-Tex

    Sawx #3 hitter-Not even the biggest guy in 13-under little league

  100. Cy Pettitte says:

    lol Repko

  101. JobaWockeeZ says:

    It’s early but CC seems to be racking up the strikeouts. A nice change.

  102. jorge brosada says:

    so nice to have a catcher that frames some pitches…

  103. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Yay Michael Pineda.

  104. Red "The Strawman" Herring says:

    Hey guys, I know we’re winning and all but could we stop letting Duensing off the hook? Send him home and lets get into their bullpen, thanks.

  105. Cy Pettitte says:

    Sox down 2-1 now

  106. JerseyDutch says:

    Who the hell do the Reds think they are?

  107. jorge brosada says:

    Yeah, the twins infield defense isnt that great…

  108. Mike Myers says:

    Would you be OK with the team giving naming rights to the stadium if it allowed us to get Pujols?

  109. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Pasta diving Casilla

  110. Francis says:

    Cole Hamels was booed off the mound after leaving the game vs. Mets

    Stay classy Philly.

  111. ahinds says:

    where would i go online to listen to the yankees games for free?

  112. Tank the Frank says:

    CC is officially in beast mode.

  113. Mike Myers says:

    he went

  114. Jerome S. says:

    The Yankees can’t just be beating the Twins, they need to crush them. I need a bloodbath, now.

  115. JerseyDutch says:

    CC in the groove is like poetry…

  116. Mike Myers says:

    auction hunters….aka the A’s?

  117. China Joe says:

    haha. I love when CC keeps Michael Kay off-balance…he’s working so quickly that Kay doesn’t even have time for his anecdotes.

  118. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Gritty, gutty hustle by A-Rod. Not indicative of a true Yankee.

  119. Cy Pettitte says:

    put up a few more runs so Joe can just bring in the Coloser for the 8th and 9th please

  120. JobaWockeeZ says:

    3-1 Sox losing. 0-4 bitches, let’s hope.

  121. Cy Pettitte says:

    GE Capital Partner Play is a play made by the other team again, so not cool

  122. Sterling-“Andruw Jones! Makes his bones!”

    So now we have that, and “Russell! Adds some muscle!”

    Now we need one for Eric Chavez.

  123. Sam says:

    Man games? Is that what Michael Kay wants to play?

  124. Xstar7 says:

    C’mon CC. Give us one more good inning.

  125. swishers fauxhawk says:

    What a waste of onion rings.

  126. JerseyDutch says:

    LOL. Fans are stupid.

  127. Urban says:

    Did he really try to catch that with his food tray?

  128. karcotte says:

    Andruw is hungry.

  129. jorge brosada says:

    whos the asshole who threw the food at Andruw Jones?

    • Urban says:

      He didn’t throw it. It appeared he tried to “catch” the ball in his food tray that was stacked with onion rings. I mean, wouldn’t take a genius to figure out he wouldn’t get the ball and he’d lost the onion rings!

  130. Teh Comp Pick says:

    You know Andruw just snagged an onion ring.

  131. Cy Pettitte says:

    they dropped their $20 onion rings on Andruw? lol

  132. Total Dominication says:

    Onion Rings?

  133. Mike Myers says:

    “ohhhhhhhhhh, Onion rings!” – Kay, comment of the year.

  134. Tank the Frank says:

    Now that dude has to fork over another $15 for onion rings.

  135. Chip says:


  136. Mike Myers says:

    This has to be the most comments about onion rings this site has ever had right?

  137. Cy Pettitte says:

    Kay stop talking please

  138. TheLastClown says:

    You know, if you eat food off the ground after 6 seconds, rather than 5…..you metaphysically ruin the no-hitter.

    Like slavery.

  139. Total Dominication says:

    Is it really necessary to use Soriano again? Don’t we have someone else to use for a 4 run lead?

  140. Total Dominication says:

    Kay is such a worrier.

  141. Kit says:

    That sounded kind of snippy, Flash. Getting annoyed at Kay?

  142. TheLastClown says:

    Flash just got a free iPad.

  143. Chip says:

    Wow, Girardi seems to be wanting to burn the pen quite early in the season. Hopefully they can score a few runs here and not have to bring in Soriano

  144. Monteroisdinero says:

    Andruw’s first game he hits a homer and gets a ring! Lol

  145. Urban says:

    Waiting for the return of David Cone…and announcer. Pretty sure he’s not returning as a pitcher, although based on Garcia and Colon being on the roster, guess I can’t be too sure of that.

    • TheLastClown says:

      The split between YES & D. Cone the announcer was rather hairy, IIRC.

      Not expecting a return anytime soon, although he was probably my favorite color guy of the past 10 years.

      • Kit says:

        I believe I read somewhere that he’ll be returning to broadcast some games this year. I may be wrong though.

        • Urban says:

          You’re right. Whatever differences they had they seemed to patch them up and there was an announcement Cone was returning this season to do 20 games or so. I’m guessing he’ll be used like O’Neill and Leiter, rotating in and out.

          I had forgotten he was returning until I heard Flaherty mention Leiter was working the Boston series, which got me to wondering when Cone will be back. I liked Cone.

        • TheLastClown says:

          No, it seems that you’re right on the money.

          Thanks for the correction. That’s what I get for not staying current on the RAB-waves during the offseason.


          I’m very excited about this!

    • JGS says:

      His last year with the Yankees, opponents OPSed .891 off him

  146. TheLastClown says:

    Melky ties up the game v. ChiSox w/ a 2 run single.

    Go leche go.

  147. Francis says:

    How has Jones looked defensively?

  148. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Soriano to the 8th. DRob to the 9th. Please?

  149. OldYanksFan says:

    Watching Jeter for another 3 years is gonna be brutal.

  150. Sheepmeister says:

    Wouldn’t it be better to have DRob for the bottom of the order and then Soriano for the top of the order.

  151. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Oh late to this but what was Sterling’s call for Martin a few days ago and Jones today?

  152. MikeD says:

    Not sure how many bases Martin will steal, and not sure I’d recommend he run too much since he wasn’t a real high-percentage stealer, but if he can get it into the opposition’s head early on that he will run, then that might have some value.

  153. pete says:

    wtf why is Soriano pitching again? Shouldn’t it be D-Rob?

  154. AndrewYF says:

    I guess the Yankees are going to try and get their money’s worth out of Soriano. 80 IP this year?

  155. Tank the Frank says:

    What the fuck is Girardi smoking?

  156. NJ_Andy says:


    We miss you. Please get some work.


  157. JobaWockeeZ says:

    This looked liked the perfect opportunity for So and Mo to get a rest but I guess we’ll have none of it.

  158. Jimmy McNulty says:

    89 high the fuck is he doing throwing that garbage

  159. Jimmy McNulty says:

    89 high the fuck is he doing throwing that garbage

  160. Monteroisdinero says:

    Sawx out in the 7th. Down 3-1 to Austin Kearns and the Redskins.

  161. T.J. says:

    If Mo comes in for the 9th I’ll be annoyed.

  162. JerseyDutch says:

    This is getting ugly fast.

  163. Urban says:

    I wonder if Girardi brought in Soriano because he wants to see how he’d do back-to-back, to build up his arm strength? Girardi is very careful on how he uses pitchers, so there’s a reason. That’s the only one I can think that makes any sense.

  164. jorge brosada says:

    why does Girardi keep warming up Robertson and then not using him? It’s quite annoying

  165. Reggie C. says:

    Soriano tired much?

  166. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Take him out before the short homer.

  167. Dave says:

    Ugh. This is less than ideal.

  168. JerseyDutch says:

    Punch ‘im.

  169. Reggie C. says:

    That’s more like it!

  170. Total Dominication says:

    Fuck yeah!

  171. Cy Pettitte says:

    wow nice strikeout, where’s that been? lol

    Logan for Mauer?

  172. Urban says:

    Ummm, I’d rather have Soriano pitch to Mauer than Logan.

  173. Urban says:

    No matter what Soriano does here, with 30 pitches or so, and back-to-back games, no way he’s available for the next two games.

  174. mbonzo says:

    I hardly ever complain about Girardi but this is retarded. Why the hell are they sending Soriano out there for 2 games in a row, to face the bottom of the lineup? Especially with Garcia pitching tomorrow. Even if Soriano has a 1,2,3 inning, he still can’t pitch tomorrow, and if he has trouble now you have to bring Mo in, and he can’t pitch tomorrow. This is just horrible strategy.

    • Greg says:

      What if Robertson came in and did the exact same thing?

      • mbonzo says:

        Robertson didn’t pitch yesterday, if he ended up melting down like Soriano did, then you can always send in someone else to close the game. In this instance you’re bringing in your guys with little rest to close out a game with a 4 run lead. On top of that, the bullpen is supposed to be there for guys like Garcia and even if Soriano succeeds he’s out for Garcia’s start.

  175. Eirias says:

    No reason to worry. This guy only has a 0.086 BA.

  176. Dave says:

    Now would be an exceptionally poor time for Mauer to break out of his slump.

  177. Tank the Frank says:

    Girardi is good for several moronic moves each season. We’re witnessing one of them. There’s really no reason to bring in a former closer in the 8th inning of a four run game. I can’t blame So for not being quite as in to it as he should be.

    There’s a time to build up arm strength with back to back outings. It’s called Spring Training.

  178. IRF says:

    hes cooked

  179. jorge brosada says:

    Soriano definitely should get a day of rest tomorrow, idk why Girardi didn’t use D-rob…

  180. jorge brosada says:


  181. Total Dominication says:

    Aw hell.

  182. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Alright, mismanaging at its finest.

  183. JerseyDutch says:

    This was just in case, you know, we didn’t think the game was exciting up until this point. Thanks, Joe.

  184. First time lawng time says:

    Hey Girardi, great BP management.

  185. Andy says:

    Can someone who knows more about baseball than me explain why we brought in Soriano in a 4 run game when he pitched yesterday? I don’t care if he had a 1, 2, 3 inning. I don’t get it.

    • Pat D says:

      Because he’s the 8th inning guy.

      Or, as Stewie Griffin would say,
      (Stewie voice)
      “Because, Andy, because. Those are the rules, Andy.”

  186. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Good shit Giardi. Fuck inning defined roles. Free DRob.

  187. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    giradi planning on using his shinny new toy every night?

  188. Pat D says:

    Well this has turned somewhat ugly, eh?

  189. Michael says:

    Isnt this supposed to go the reverse way? Robertson walks the world with a 4 run lead and Soriano comes in to clean up his mess?

  190. Tank the Frank says:

    Girardi doing everything in his power to make sure his 41 year old closer gets as much work as possible early in the season.

  191. smurfy says:

    D-Rob with the bases loaded? His time of truth.

    I like him, but his walks seem inexplicable.

  192. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    no reason for Soriano even to be pitching tonight….now hes lost for tomorrow on what could be a closer game

  193. U Thant says:

    it’s really too early in the season for me to be yelling at the TV.

  194. Xstar7 says:

    Maybe there was something wrong with DRob and that’s why they didn’t send him out?

  195. Accent Shallow says:


  196. China Joe says:

    Is Girardi trying to teach the fans a lesson? “I know you think this bullpen is invincible, but i’ll prove you wrong!”

    • Urban says:

      So then Soriano would have walked three batters? He just didn’t have it. He wouldn’t had it your way either.

  197. Tank the Frank says:

    See…this is he situation I would want to see Soriano brought in had D-Rob ran into this sort of trouble in the 8th. The way it should have been done.

  198. Monteroisdinero says:

    Girardi using that rigid engineering degree yet again.

    In other news, Jed Lowrie pinch hits for SaltylaMacchia. Sawx down 3-1 bottom 8.

  199. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    at this rate they are going to turn over their line up and have the heart of their team come up again in the 9th

  200. Tom Zig says:


  201. smurfy says:

    hey, ball 3 was a strike.

  202. Tom Zig says:

    Mo might break Hoffman’s record by the ASB

  203. YankeesJunkie says:

    You have to be fucking kidding me!

  204. Total Dominication says:

    Fuck fuck fuck

  205. Erica says:


  206. Cy Pettitte says:

    CC must be pissed a fuck

  207. Mike Axisa says:

    At least Joe got to play with his new toy.

  208. swishers fauxhawk says:


  209. mbonzo says:

    Soriano…. the new Scott Proctor. Nice strategy Girardi.

  210. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Giardi owes 10 steaks to CC.

  211. Hummingbird S. says:

    D-Rob got the lazy fly, not his fault. Damn you Soriano.

  212. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    un fucking believable

  213. Jerome S. says:

    lol @ that slide by swish,

    and rly? a bullpen meltdown?

    i thought this was never ever ever supposed to happen again?

    • mbonzo says:

      Manager meltdown. Don’t blame the bullpen guys, when the manager throws you out there a day after you looked like you were struggling in a situation that means nothing.

  214. Monteroisdinero says:

    Golson makes that catch EASY.

  215. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    I got it….its the Yankees secret plan to not let CC win a single game all year, so he wont opt out for more money at the end of the season

  216. Wow, that was fast.

  217. Michael says:

    Girardi managing FAIL

  218. Greg says:

    SO Girardi is off the hook to a degree. Both pitchers were ineffective. Still wouldn’t have done it. But both pitchers let him down

  219. T.J. says:

    Well this is horrible.

  220. jorge brosada says:

    a fucking bloop double, you’ve gotta be kidding me.

    Nice bullpen management Girardi…

  221. Cuso says:

    Just got Soriano’d

  222. pete says:

    what just happened?

  223. YankeesJunkie says:

    Well shit happens. Time for the Yankees to step up and score a couple runs here in the eighth.

  224. smurfy says:

    fluky bullshittt

  225. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:


  226. Robertson could not really be blamed for this one. It was a pop up that dropped in. I have no idea why Soriano was left out there for so long, I honestly thought his fly ball pitching would be exposed.

  227. Pasqua says:

    Back-asswards inning right there.

  228. JerseyDutch says:

    I picked the wrong day to stop smoking crack…

  229. Dr. O says:

    At least NY Papers can dust off the “Clueless Joe” headline for tomorrow.

  230. First time lawng time says:

    If Drov comes in the 8th does what Soriano does and Soriano comes in and does what Drob did it’s fine because I think Drob should have started that inning

  231. Sheepmeister says:

    Now lets hope that the middle of the order can string together a few hits.

  232. IRF says:

    That spot should be known as the “Posada Triangle”

  233. Tank the Frank says:

    Good thing the bullpen will be rested for Garcia’s start tomorrow.

    Girardi took his protein with a side of stupid this morning.

  234. Jonathan says:

    Nice job Levine. And when a guy is throwing in the 80′s with no location, how many guys do you let him walk before you figure out…hey i’m a fucking dumbass and should have brought in Robertson. We just GAVE them 4 runs. What a joke. Fuck you Girardi. Fuck you.

    • Chris says:

      You realize that it’s April 5th, not game 7 or the World Series, right?

    • Francis says:

      Game #4 out of #162.

      Chillax brotha.

      • Jonathan says:

        we lost the AL East by 1 game last year. ONE GAME. They all count the same.

        • Francis says:

          cry moar!

        • CMP says:

          What did you do after game 6 of the ALCS last year, take a bottle of pills?

          • Jonathan says:

            I am dumbfounded at you people. constantly attacking a yankee fan for being upset at that situation on a yankee site. acting like you’re all better than me because these games mean a lot to me and i got upset? We’re all on here talking with a lot of strangers while watching the game, but it’s out of line to be upset with a TERRIBLE move that nobody can defend. I have the right to be upset with anything I want to be upset with. I just thought more people would actually care about the yankees on ya know, a yankee website. but if you don’t get upset during yankee games, then congratulations. that’s your right. I hope you all feel so much better about yourselves.

            • Mike Axisa says:

              You were the one calling people cocksuckers and telling them to go fuck themselves, you did the attacking.

              • Jonathan says:

                that was the defense man. you’re really telling me you wouldn’t have a problem with people telling you when it’s ok to be upset and when it isn’t? i “attacked” girardi first. i didn’t say anything to anyone on here. i aired my grievance with the move and was basically told it’s April 5th you have no right to be upset that the Yankees made a completely stupid move that is likely to cost us the game. Like I said earlier, I’d think you’d understand after you overreacted to the jeter deal the other day. We both overreacted but we both care about this team and have the right to care about this team and be upset with things like that. I came to RAB PURPOSELY for like-minded people who i thought would be just as upset as I was but i was only made fun of for being upset. your comments are one of the best parts about this site but you can’t even say how you feel or what you think about the team without being attacked. and if you stand up for yourself, you get attacked even more. it’s completely backwards. it’s the same group of snarky people who patrol the comments and rag on people who they don’t agree with. if you aren’t one of the regulars there’s no point in even coming to the comments. I’m sure countless others feel the same way I do because I see it happen to plenty of people all the time. Non regular’s comment attacked by a regular. Most people don’t fire back like I did/do for fear of you and the regulars piling on even more. It’s the absolute best and worst part of the entire website. You get the feel of a group of friends talking about the Yankees, but if you aren’t in that exclusive group we all know what happens.

                • BigDavey88 says:

                  Kind of has a point. Not about cocksuckers, but at least with this annoying clique thing this site can at times be plagued with.

                  But ya know whatever, group think FTW!

            • bexarama says:

              it’s out of line to be upset with a TERRIBLE move that nobody can defend

              Also out of line: randomly calling people cocksuckers

              • Jonathan says:

                a regular agreeing with a regular. I don’t see it as random. Randomly telling people they have no right to be upset and being snarky and sarcastic is ok…but standing up for yourself isn’t. I didn’t say ANYTHING to him or about him to start with. You’re standing up for what is most likely your friend, I understand that. But you have to see it from my perspective. I have the right to have my own opinion without it being attacked for no reason. I’ve used this example a couple of times already but Mike completely overreacted (as did I) about Jeter, but nobody attacked him. Because he’s part of the regular group. I’m not so I don’t have the right on here to comment without being ragged on.

      • To be fair, every win matters. Just look at the Rangers right now.

        • Jonathan says:

          thank you. i’ve said it over and over but we lost the al east by 1 game last year. April 5th or the last game of the season all count the same.

  235. Jerome S. says:

    get ready for the first walk off of the year, guys.

  236. Dave says:

    Tex HR?

  237. Dr. O says:

    I think Girardi had a “Stan The Caddy” moment there or something.

  238. First time lawng time says:

    It’s too the Yanks couldn’t score past the 1st two innings

  239. Hummingbird S. says:

    Somebody should wake up the yankees’ offense

  240. Chip says:

    I don’t know why everybody is on Girardi on this one. Sure, I wouldn’t have brought in Soriano but this is all on Soriano. With Rivera behind you, you allow a homerun before you allow a walk

  241. Reggie C. says:

    CC never struck me as a stats guy, but losing a sure-fire WIN must irk him right now. He’ll get some breaks down the line and win a game or two he’d lose otherwise if he were on a different team.

    Robertson should return for the 9th.

    • Nah, he knows he’ll get a few 7-6 wins that he doesn’t really deserve a W for. These things tend to even out.

      In all honestly, being ticked off at losing a W would be a douchebag move, and from all accounts CC is way too good a guy to act like that.

    • Pasqua says:

      I think pitchers would only worry about personal wins in relation to making money on their next contract (as in W=$), and that is surely something that CC doesn’t have to worry about.

  242. Greg says:

    Well better to get the managing gaffes out of the way early

  243. nathan says:

    A dollar for what Cash$$ thought about that 8th inning.

  244. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    just misssssed it

  245. smurfy says:

    Flaherty says it ‘didn’t have that good sound to it.” Sure wish we could tell, ’cause I was sorely disappointed.

  246. Dave says:

    Pie anyone?

  247. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Nice billion runs we were definitely going to score.

  248. Xstar7 says:

    I’m sure there was a VERY good reason Girardi let Soriano start that inning even though he had pitched yesterday and there was talk about his velocity going down.

    /fucking sarcasm’d

  249. Reggie C. says:

    With Alex cooled off , this team just might have to scratch out a run the old fashioned way: WALK, SB, SAC BUNT, SAC FLY, WIN!

  250. Greg says:

    THinking about it, it isnt really Girardi’s fault. He put faith in Soriano early in the season when he shouldn’t be tired to pitch a good inning. It is all on Soriano and his failure.

    • S says:

      Soriano has pitched in every game the team has played except Hughes start. He was obviously tired, and had no business in there to begin with.

  251. JohnnyC says:

    Girardi mistook game 5 of the regular season for a spring training game. Can happen to anyone.

  252. jorge brosada says:

    The bullpen is going to be exhausted for tomorrow’s game. Girardi made a dumb decision, he should’t have started the 8th with Soriano in the first place. D-rob should have started it because he needed to get his work in.

  253. James G. says:

    Good to know we only owe Soriano like, $36 million, right? Right?

  254. Stratman9652 says:

    If this game goes to extra innings, I sure hope Garcia has a complete game in him tommorow.

  255. JohnnyC says:

    Garcia’s gonna have to throw a complete game tomorrow night.

  256. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Jason fucking Kubel is Mo’s Kryptonite.

  257. Cy Pettitte says:

    what was that cut in of the mets game? lol

  258. Sheepmeister says:

    From airing of Grievences article at the beginning of the season.

    Rafael Soriano will blow a save.
    Soriano will blow a lead in the eighth.

    It sucks but its only the 5th game of the season, long time to go, and at least we aren’t the red sox right now.

    • Accent Shallow says:

      And at least he didn’t blow a lead against the Red Sox.

      Can you imagine?

    • Jericho Spade says:

      I think most are more annoyed by Robertson not getting any play and once again being overlooked in the perfect spot for him to get work. While also resting Mo and Soriano for the next 5 games before an off day.

  259. JohnnyC says:

    Posada with the walk-off.

  260. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Pedroia single, AGon up, calling the tying homer based on how this night is going.

  261. YanksFan in MA says:

    Awww. Mariano is such a great fielder. It makes 2001 even more inexplicable.

  262. AndrewYF says:

    The Yankees have Boone Logan and Luis Ayala left in the bullpen.

    They better win it in regulation.

  263. Cy Pettitte says:

    that was so nasty

  264. jiffy says:

    I don’t really understand why you take out D-Rob now

  265. jorge brosada says:

    god I love Mo so much it hurts sometimes

  266. Kit says:

    Pie would be awesome.

  267. JerseyDutch says:

    I get it. For a moment Girardi mistakenly thought Soriano was Old Hoss Radbourn.

  268. CMP says:

    Burnett better loosen up because we’re gonna need some pie pretty soon.

  269. AndrewYF says:

    Rivera isn’t pitching tomorrow anyway, let him pitch the 10th Joe.

  270. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    Mariano makin them look stuuuuuupd

  271. Kostas says:

    I can’t believe how a hitter of Kubel’s caliber has the success he has against Mariano. Fascinating.

  272. Accent Shallow says:

    Mariano: still the greatest.

  273. Cy Pettitte says:

    Jorge or Cano go deep

  274. NJ_Andy says:

    Mo is awesome. That’s my silver lining.

  275. Total Dominication says:


  276. Dave says:

    Would Colon be available for long relief tomorrow? If not they’ll probably bring up someone who can throw for a long time to back up Garcia right?

  277. nathan says:

    Am ready for a walk off win.

  278. Ari says:

    wheres the offense

  279. Total Dominication says:

    right down the middle Russell

  280. Chip says:

    You know what I would love? A Brett Gardner walk-off homer

  281. Monteroisdinero says:

    In other news, Austin Kearns strikes out in the 8th but Indians win.

    Thuuuuuhhhh Indians win!!!!!!!!!!

  282. JerseyDutch says:

    The 2011 World Series Champs drop another one.

  283. Cy Pettitte says:

    Sox lose! at least something went right tonight

  284. Total Dominication says:

    O course we have extra innings in a Twins game.

  285. jorge brosada says:

    Ack. We have Boone Logan and Luis Ayala left in the pen, the Twins have Nathan.


  286. Xstar7 says:

    Now that the Sox have started the season 0-4 we can stop the comparison to the 1998 Yankees.

  287. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    at least the No Sox lost

  288. Cy Pettitte says:

    put Swish on the mound

  289. Wooderson says:

    ayala really fucks up the bullpen naming. everybody can be included except him. CoLoRoJoSoMo

  290. CMP says:

    How lame was John Sterling’s call for Andruw Jones Hr.

    “Jones is the Bones”
    That’s totally weak.

  291. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Boone? Jesus Girardi.

  292. First time lawng time says:

    Only 5th game but what a crappy one

  293. nathan says:

    I fully expect JOhn Kruk to declare CC is in trouble because he has not won a game yet… :-)

  294. YankeesJunkie says:

    You know throwing the ball over the strike zone will make the game a lot less painful.

  295. JohnnyC says:

    Girardi right out of the later Torre years playbook.

  296. jorge brosada says:

    god dammit Logan your job is to get out the lefty. What do you do? Give a lead-off walk to said lefty…

  297. Monteroisdinero says:

    If the Twins win this game, they were a bit due for a break or two at YS.


  298. Cy Pettitte says:

    that was some ugly bunting

  299. trueblue says:

    again with the walks

  300. Total Dominication says:

    Fucking shit

  301. YankeesJunkie says:

    This just fucking weak!

  302. Esteban says:


  303. Reggie C. says:

    Oh man. Do i miss FELICIANO.

  304. The Red Sox are 0-4.

    The headline at WEEI.com says “Time to panic?”


    There’s going to be some priceless radio tonight.

  305. Dave says:

    Sad face.

  306. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    cmon laying down a bunt is simple math

  307. jorge brosada says:

    oh my god, an 0-2 fastball right down the middle. This is such bullshit.

  308. ChrisR says:

    I just had a feeling our chances of winning were slim when they tied it up…

  309. Stratman9652 says:

    I kinda miss seeing Boone Logan get guys out.

  310. Nogomo says:

    John Sterling is bumming me out.

  311. Mister Delaware says:

    That was a double play.

  312. JerseyDutch says:

    Boone Logan makes me sad.

  313. V says:

    Ballgame. Thanks for the loss, Joe.

  314. YankeesJunkie says:

    Just laughing at this point. The bullpen has been terrible today.

  315. Cuso says:

    looks like an 85-win team to me

  316. jorge brosada says:

    God i can’t wait until we get Feliciano back so we can DFA this fucking scrub, clearly last years second half was a fluke.

  317. Nogomo says:

    As soon as I heard Logan was coming in, I knew. I swear I knew. I just knew. Jesus,

  318. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Logan’s the worst. Where’s Felix Heredia?

  319. Total Dominication says:

    Wait, what?????????? Luis Aylaya????????

  320. Urban says:

    Well played, Mauer…unfortunately.

  321. JobaWockeeZ says:

    White flag. Awesome.

  322. A-Rod's Hip says:

    Knicks win!! 4th straight baby!

  323. trueblue says:

    Logan is hot trash

  324. Reggie C. says:

    Twins have turned the corner. They’re ready to kick ass at YS III.


  325. Cy Pettitte says:

    what a clusterfuck
    fire Girardi

  326. Greg says:

    THis loss wasnt on Girardi. Its on the bullpen being unable to get anybody out

    • It'sATarp says:

      Soriano has pitching a lot…D-rob was fresh…Girardi waits til bases loaded at high leverage situation to bring him in rather than mo our best reliever…No matter what Girardi makes no sense in his moves.

  327. Jorge says:

    A terribly mismanaged game by Joe Girardi. There was no reason to go to Soriano in the 8th. None whatsoever. Either keep CC in there, or get someone like Robertson in there. Soriano should be used when you need to get to Mariano, as he was used yesterday. He’s not who you bring in in a 4-0 game. He then proceeds to waste Robertson and Mariano and now has a whole lot of nothing to finish the game with. It’s only you game and, hey, we haven’t even seen the second half of the inning yet, but I’d pin the loss straight on the manager tonight if it happens.

    • Greg says:

      What if Robertson didnt get anybody out? Girardi went with his best pitcher and he failed him

    • Urban says:

      Really? The guy the Yankees are paying $10 a season to shut down the 8th inning is the wrong move? Interesting perspective.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Yeah when you could pay one tenth of that to get similar production.

      • Jorge says:

        A 4-0 game isn’t a shutdown situation. That’s precisely my point. Save him for when it is a shutdown situation. That’s an inning in which you utilize a David Robertson. What would his role be, at this point, otherwise?

        BTW….it should have read “It’s only one game” in my post above.

        Let’s hope they make this all for nothing and win it in the bottom of the 10th. Go Yanks.

        • Urban says:

          Ummm, you’re wrong. A 4-0 game is a close game. We just saw that tonight. He went with his best and he lost.

          • JobaWockeeZ says:

            So why doesn’t Mo just pitch the 7th 8th and 9th today?

          • Pasqua says:

            Consider, though: what was he going to do in the 9th? If Rivera had come in to pitch, non-save, this website would have exploded. I understand your point, but I am curious about the endgame.

            • Urban says:

              The end-game is Soriano was supposed to shut down the 8th, and then he would would have mixed and matched in the 9th, and at the sign of any failure, he’d have brought in Mo. Soriano didn’t have it. I suppose he could have gone with Robertson in the 8th, but then we’d have the failure of Soriano in the 9th. It’s pretty simple. Soriano didn’t have it. Not Girardi’s fault. It’s going to happen.

              • Cult of Basebaal says:

                Except for the fact that if he’d gone with Robertson in the 8th and then handed it off to Soriano in the 9th, Girardi *would* have brought Mo in to bail Soriano out of the situation that positively SCREAMED for your best pitcher to come in and get you out of.

                Well, actually that’s not entirely true, Girardi would have brought in Mo far sooner in the 9th than he went to Robertson in the 8th.

                • MikeD says:

                  Yet, it all comes back to Soriano not doing the job he’s supposed to do, which is shut down the eighth for a Yankee win. He didn’t do it. This will happen with him (and others) during the season. It happened tonight. It’s not Girardi’s fault for going with the guy who is supposed to own the eighth inning this year.

                  People are upset because the Yankees lost. They could have just as easily lost if Robertson came in, didn’t do his job, and then Soriano was called in, and then blew the game. The fans would probably be upset that Girardi went first with his weaker pitcher in Robertson.

                  Every scenario falls apart if Soriano pitches like crap, as he did. As noted, he’s being paid a lot of money to shut down the opposition in the 8th. He just didn’t have it tonight. People will just have to live with that.

          • Jorge says:

            No. It’s not.

            This concludes this edition of “Point/Counterpoint.”

        • Greg says:

          So what if Robertson cant get anybody out. People would be screaming at Girardi fro not using Soriano

          • Urban says:

            Exactly. Soriano walked three men, and then D-Rob gave up a blooper down the rightfield line. There is some massive logic fail going on with a lot of posters here.

  328. Mykey says:

    This couldn’t have been a more frustrating loss.

  329. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    yeah giradi, make some more moves…..douchebag

  330. Nogomo says:

    Maybe 87, 88. What a surprise! The pitching is a concern!

  331. JDDZip says:

    This isnt all Giradi’s fault the bullpen hasnt been the one getting the outs

  332. JohnnyC says:

    Girardi’s going to have a fun time explaining this one in the post-game. It’s one game in April but, boy, you don’t ever want to transform a 2 hit shut-outby your ace into an extra-inning loss with no off days to rest your bullpen this week…going into a weekend in Fenway. There is such a thing as context.

  333. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    i dont expect them to go 162 and 0, but when you have a 4 to 0 lead after your ace just dominated a team…you should win that game. whether its game 1, 5, 37, 157 of the effing year.

  334. A-Rod's Hip says:

    thattaboy Ayala!

    big out here.. keep it a 1 run game

  335. Cy Pettitte says:

    should have gone to Ayala in the 8th stupid Girardi

  336. JobaWockeeZ says:

    We need some ARod magic but of course he won’t get up.

  337. Stratman9652 says:

    So who is available tommorow anyway?

  338. jorge brosada says:

    god with all the other shit going on, you cant give the damn call umpire? Jesus

  339. Cy Pettitte says:

    what the fuck

  340. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    Jeter has never had pie….its time tonight in front of the 3 fans at yankee stadium

  341. Greg says:

    What would you have Girardi do? Put in David Robertson and see him struggle or put in Soriano who was an All Star last year. The move didn’t work. If it worked we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

    • JohnnyC says:

      I would assume Robertson would not struggle just as you and Girardi assumed Soriano would not struggle. All I know is you don’t throw your high-leverage guys in low-leverage situations. If Robertson struggles THEN you bring in Soriano.

    • Jorge says:

      The game I saw had Robertson give up a frustrating bloop single and get the next guy out.

    • V says:

      Huh? By this token, Girardi should be putting Rivera in the 6th every day and have him finish the game.

      Soriano pitched -yesterday-. It was a -4- run lead. After Soriano walked a guy, then walked another guy, maybe it was a bad idea to let him stay in the game to throw over 30 pitches when it was obvious he had nothing?

      Awful awful awful bullpen management.

  342. Andy says:

    This is an extremely frustrating loss because a) Girardi shouldn’t have put Soriano in but b) you can’t really blame Girardi for the loss because c) Soriano, our best addition to the team, totally imploded.

  343. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    Kubel against everyone else .125, against the Yanks .850

  344. Monteroisdinero says:

    One run is doable guys-keep the faith! It looks like the Trop in the stands

  345. Jorge says:

    Cy Ayala gets out of the inning. Get this done.

  346. JohnnyC says:

    Damn the Mets for abusing our second lefty out of the pen. I bet they did this intentionally to f*ck with us.

  347. YankeesJunkie says:

    Time to make the Twins miserable by scoring a couple runs here.

  348. jorge brosada says:

    still hoping on some magic against Nathan

  349. Kostas says:

    Kubal< Ayala…somewhere I am hearing "You just can't predict baseball".

  350. A-Rod's Hip says:

    way to get it done Ayala

    gotta pick up the manager with this one tonight

  351. Esteban says:


    /most people here

    I mean, c’mon Soriano pitched poorly, but if not for a lucky bloop double, the Yankees have won. Let’s not get carried away. Zen baseball.

  352. Cy Pettitte says:

    Joe Nathan implosion please

  353. Stratman9652 says:

    Im hoping to see “#cured” at some point in the next few comments.

  354. Accent Shallow says:

    Shake Joe Nathan, with a one run lead?

    This is doable.

  355. jiffy says:

    that only had a nasty factor of 21, he CLEARLY doesn’t have his best stuff tonight

  356. thaaaaaaayankeeeswin says:

    ok guys…..this guy is meat

  357. Mister Delaware says:

    I hate watching that lip thing Nathan does.

  358. rek4gehrig says:

    Surprise surprise Gardy

  359. Greg says:

    What Girardi did was unusual, but it certainly wast egregious. Calm down. We are not Red Sox fans

    • JerseyDutch says:

      It was highly dubious however.

    • A-Rod's Hip says:

      So only Red Sox fans are allowed to question their manager for making retarded decisions during a game?

      I’m not calling for the guy’s head. But it was a stupid move, and one that’s made by MANY managers constantly in the same situation. So he’s certainly not alone

      • Greg says:

        It wasnt a retarded decision. He went with his best 8th inning pitcher. The pitcher failed Girardi.

        • A-Rod's Hip says:

          And that is the crux of the issue.

          In that type of situation, with the game on the line, why not go to your BEST AVAILABLE PITCHER period??? The moment the bases became loaded and their heart of the lineup was on the way was when it was time to go to your BEST available pitcher. Not to David Robertson.

  360. Xstar7 says:

    Is it too much to ask the Yankees to score a couple of runs here even though it’s past the first two innings?

  361. A-Rod's Hip says:

    come on Cap’n.. show us some clutchness!

  362. First time lawng time says:

    Too bad the offensive black hole is due up

  363. Mister Delaware says:

    If his name were Derek Reter, he’d be watching Eric Chavez take his PA right here.

  364. JerseyDutch says:

    Both remaining fans in the stands booed that pitch.

  365. Accent Shallow says:

    Would have been nice to see the offense get to Duensing more.

    Of course, they got to him in that playoff game, so I will survive.

  366. psp says:

    Let’s make one thing clear: Soriano is no Mariano. Soriano STUNK tonight. Disgusting

  367. Reggie C. says:

    Clearly DJ’s too wrapped up in figuring out which East Coast palace he’ll upgrade next.


  368. jorge brosada says:

    valiant AB here from Jeter but I can’t help feeling no confidence at all

  369. YanksFan in MA says:


  370. V says:

    Jeter = worst $15M+ player in baseball.

  371. Total Dominication says:

    Damn, this was on Soriano.

  372. Pasqua says:

    April 5: Not mentally or emotionally prepared for a kick-in-the-balls loss.

  373. Dale Mohorcic says:


  374. Greg says:

    Again, you people will blame Giradi when all he did was put his best 8th inning pitcher in the eighth. Obviously you dont really want to put the blame where it really lies

    • It'sATarp says:

      He should have taken Soriano out earlier…it was quite obvious the guy didn’t have it. He had other options…then when the game got to a high leverage situation rather than go to his Best pitcher (Mo) he goes to D-rob…who is no where as good as mo obviously….

  375. First time lawng time says:

    You know what? Our bullpen was bound to implode at some point, Girardi makes stupid moves every year, and we’re not an overrated team thats 0-4. Which is why I’m already over it. This loss just sucks because Cc pitched so well

  376. Sean C says:

    Welp, that sucked.

  377. Andy says:

    I’m irrationally upset right now

  378. Stratman9652 says:

    What happened Jeet? You used to be the guy we could count on?

  379. Jorge says:

    Well that sucked. Let’s just forget this every happened.

  380. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    I’m done with this team. I’m a Natinals fan now.

  381. jorge brosada says:

    and as i say that, we lose. This loss could not be more frustrating. I blame the bullpens utter shittiness (asides from Mo of course) and Girardi’s retarded managing. What a waste of a great performance from CC. Logan has been annoyingly bad.

  382. MikeD says:

    Glad I made it back just in time for strike three…NOT!

    Oh, well. Game 5 brought us a reminder of the painful part of baseball.

  383. God, this loss hurts. Why? Not because we blew a big lead.
    Because Joe Girardi blew this one, not the players.
    I’m not a Girardi hater or anything, but he blew this.

    10th inning: What the hell is Boone Logan doing out there? He has shown NOTHING this year, why not bring Joba who has shown good stuff at least? And then when Logan blows it, why go with Ayala? I mean he got the job done but still was not a good move.

    Joe Girardi earns his first blown save of the year. Congrats to him.

  384. bexarama says:

    That really, really sucked but it’s one game. Ugh.

  385. mbonzo says:


  386. Rob says:

    It really sucks that I think I would rather anyone in the lineup at that last ab rather than jeter, what a bummer that game was

  387. Mister Delaware says:

    Can we all agree that bringing in Soriano was a stupid move not because it lessened our chances of winning (that was an anomaly), but because it seemed to add an unnecessary appearance onto Soriano’s ledger? I feel like a lot of people are getting why it was dumb completely wrong.

  388. James G. says:

    Anyone else think something was fishy when Soriano came out?

  389. Xstar7 says:

    Now that the Twins have reversed the curse, can the Yankees start playing serious baseball against them instead of expecting them to just bend over and let us win?

  390. Todd Gaak says:

    That loss is all on Joe Girardi. When Soriano is removed from the ballgame with the bases loaded you bring in your best reliever to put out the fire! Mo doesn’t have to pitch the 9th, just let him get out of that jam. With a 3 run lead they could bring in Robertson to close out the 9th. Girardi just doesn’t get it.

  391. V says:

    Why was Soriano in the game? “Because he’s our 8th inning guy.”

    Time for a new manager. That is pure stupidity.

    • Jorge says:

      I thought that was a dumb comment by Girardi as well, but let’s calm it down, cowboy.

      That being said, this is not my favorite Girardi post-game conference in the least. What’s in that Poland Spring bottle?

  392. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Erik Spoelstra just said there are Yankee players crying in the locker room.

  393. Coolerking101 says:

    How dare Girardi put in his 8th inning guy in the 8th inning? How could he not have Mo come in for a 1+ inning save in the all important 4th game of the season? String up Girardi!

    At least we can all agree the Soriano’s honeymoon is over. Hope he’s ready for the media…they’ll smell blood in the water.

  394. a plethora of pinatas says:

    Bad loss…….but better to get them out of the way early in the year. Hats off to CC who got the ultimate kick to the balls from his ineffective BP. 4 run lead in the 8th should’ve been gravy.

  395. Greg says:

    If anything Girardi could be blamed for, it was not yanking Soriano earlier. You know what, I compare this to Brad Stevens last night from Butler. He has some blame, but he didn’t miss open layups and shots

  396. Folks, when a 42 year old Mariano Rivera is healthy, relatively fresh and pitching effectively 6 months from now (in the middle of October) a big part of the reason will be because Girardi didn’t bring him in for 4 out saves in April.


      • OK, lets walk through this. You’ve already used Soriano and Mo. You’ll bring in either Joba or D-Rob for the 9th. What happens if they get in trouble?

        I’ll tell you what happens, you have a lesser pitcher (D-Rob) backing up a lesser pitcher (Ayala) backing up a lesser pitcher (Colon). Which is the opposite of good bullpen management. The whole idea behind managing your bullpen is to have someone better backing up the gut who’s in thre, which is why you save your best, the Closer, for last.

    • V says:

      How about when we’re paying Rafael Soriano for two seasons of recovery from an arm injury?

    • JobaWockeeZ says:

      I’m glad Mo wasn’t used. I just don’t get why we have to use Soriano when supposedly we acquired the best bullpen ever in MLB history.

      • Kit says:

        To be honest, and I’m not trying to start an argument or a discussion or anything, but I doubt Joe sent Soriano out there to suck intentionally (not saying that you said that at all, just trying to make a point). I’m just making assumptions, but when Soriano looks better out there and is far less shaky than D. Rob and Boone for an inning, I’m guessing Joe would pick the person with a) the most experience and b) who looked better. I agree that part of the blame should fall on Girardi for not being as cautious as he usually is with his relievers, but I would’ve also rather have seen Soriano out there at that moment than Boone, Ayala, D. Rob and Colon. We didn’t know he was going to be completely terrible and neither did Joe. The blame should fall on both parties equally.

      • JohnnyC says:

        Mo pitched the 9th. He was used.

  397. JohnnyC says:

    If anyone hears Girardi’s rationale for using Soriano tonight, let us know. I’m not watching the YES post-game report. I’ll laugh my ass off if he uses the line, “he’s our 8th inning guy.” Cashman might need to have a chat with him then.

  398. V says:

    Here’s hoping for a Garcia CG tomorrow. Oy.

  399. Greg says:

    Basically what all of you are saying is that you trust David Robertson more than Rafael Soriano.

    • V says:

      I trust a FULLY RESTED David Robertson over a TIRED Rafael Soriano. Yes, I am saying that.

    • JohnnyC says:

      I trust David Robertson with a 4 run lead in a week where there are no off days and I can afford to give both Soriano and Mo a rest. You don’t treat game 5 like it’s the f*cking playoffs.

      • Greg says:

        So if Robertson blew it, would you blame Girardi for not bringing in Soriano? Be honest.

        • JohnnyC says:

          When have I ever lied to you, Greg? But if Robertson loaded the bases with walks, he’d have every reason to bring Soriano in. Higher leverage situations call for your best relievers. That’s the way it’s supposed to work. You’re advocating the reverse. It was unnecessary. With a 4 run lead in the 8th inning, you figure you can get six outs without having to go straight to Soriano & Mo.

          • Greg says:

            It was unusual and maybe even dubious. I’m not saying I wasn’t surprised by it. I’m saying it wasn’t absolutely stupid and egregious as alot of people on here are making it out to be.

            • JohnnyC says:

              What are you using, a thesaurus? I don’t care how you characterize it. It was an unnecessary move that cost the team a game they had easily in hand and will preclude using Soriano and possibly Mo tomorrow in a game that might very well need their contributions…unlike tonight.

  400. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Well I’m glad Proctor is back on the team.

  401. V says:

    I can think of no profession outside of baseball where it’s accepted practice to be a fucking moron.

    • Pasqua says:

      Television meteorologist.

    • Xstar7 says:

      Some of Joe Girardi’s moves are questionable but he’s not a moron. The Yankees were leading by 4 runs and CC had retired the last 17 in a row. Sure, Soriano pitched yesterday, but it seemed like the Yankees were cruising to victory and Soriano was brought here and is getting paid $36 million to pitch in situations like this. And if he can’t get the job done 2 nights in a row, that’s not Girardi’s fault. And putting Boone Logan in to pitch in the 10th wasn’t exactly a moron move either considering he was one of their best options at that point.

  402. Erica says:

    I’m with many of you on this – it wasn’t a save situation and we didn’t need Soriano. Damnit, Girardi. I know this is only April but I don’t like seeing unnecessary losses like this coming back to bite us later in the year.

  403. First time lawng time says:

    I’m angrier with the offense than BP. Proposed new lineup
    maybe switch gardy and grandy just get jeter to the bottom

    • FachoinaNYY says:

      Not going to happen for a long time, Yanks would never do that to Jeter unless he REALLY sucks it up for a prolonged period.

      I agree with you thats what it should be, but its just not realistic at this point.

  404. First time lawng time says:

    Soriano should not be an “8th inning guy.”. He’s a set up man. If you don’t plan on bringing in your closer you don’t put in your set up man

  405. MikeD says:

    What’s with the italics? Did I miss a memo?

  406. Mister Delaware says:

    Will this work

  407. Avi says:

    Swisher did a bad job on that pop fly double. He can’t let that ball get behind him. Only two runs should have scored on that play and the Yanks still would’ve had the lead. Watch the play again and you can put as much blame for tonight’s loss on Swisher as anyone.

  408. Greg says:

    I’ve seen Girardi make really stupid decisions. This was not one of his more stupid decisions. It was unusual, but it was not one of his more stupid decisions

  409. S says:

    I’m a Joe Girardi supporter, I think he’s a good manager who is prone to very costly mental errors

    tonight was one of them.

    1. relievers do not have stamina to go out constantly with little to no rest. Soriano had already pitched in 2 of the previous 3 games, he had no business out there tonight, especially in a 4 run game.

    2. Robertson is a good reliever, but he had not been used in almost a week, he had no business being thrown into his Houdini cape when he is rusty. Especially when we all know D-Rob is prone to letting guys get on base, before retiring everyone else (Its his MO).

    3. Robertson should have been given the top of the 8th, he would have either done his job completely or at the very least gotten 2 men out, allowing either any of the scrub relievers (Logan, Ayala) to get the remaining outs and if necessary use So or Mo as last resorts since they both had already pitched so much in the previous games.

  410. FachoinaNYY says:

    I may be one of the only ones, but I am not that upset about the loss. I am not worried about Soriano, the offense is still sputtering and wildly inconsistent, and we have a couple scrubs in the BP that wont be there in a month.

    CC looked mid-season form already.

    Tex’s start is incredible.

    Jones looked serviceable.

    So many guys simply aren’t hitting yet (Grandy, Cano, Brett, Jete) that at this point there is nothing to get worked up about.

  411. Grinch says:

    Joba pitch on Sunday and Monday.

    Why didn’t anyone complain about that?

    You’re only complaining about Soriano because it didn’t work out.

    Try to be consistent.

  412. Freddy's Mom says:

    Strange, Mo blew the game but he gets off with “well, it happens a few times a season,” but Girardi gets reamed for using his most experienced pitcher to try to save it? I can’t see any way Joe gets the blame for this. How the heck is Gardy supposed to come out of his slump if he’s benched? It’s only April. And I am ALREADY tired of the second-guessing and bitching here!

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