Open Thread: Derek Jeter, lefty

Mariano Rivera Jr. commits to Quinnipiac
Adams, Cervelli begin rehab stints in Tampa loss

It’s no secret that Derek Jeter has gotten off to a rotten start this season, hitting a woeful .219/.282/.234 (that’s a .234 wOBA for those of you scoring at home) with a 72.9% ground ball rate that makes last year’s 65.7% ground ball rate blush. In an effort to improve his performance, Jeter has taken a drastic step and will now hit left-handed. At least that’s what I inferred from this Madame Tussaud’s ad roaming around the NYC subway system. It’s hard out here for a shortstop, the Cap’n’s gotta do what the Cap’n’s gotta do.

Anyway, here is your open thread on this Yankees’ baseball-less evening. The Mets are (still) playing the Astros, and there’s a ton of NHL and NBA playoff action on. So talk about whatever you want, go nuts.

Thanks to Dan for the photo.

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  • Plank

    Has anyone seen the Red Sox enough to see Youkilis’ defense at third?

    Is he holding up, or does he look like someone who hasn’t played there in 5 years? I’m really hoping they have to get a real third baseman and they get a serious logjam at 1B/DH.

    • bonestock94

      If this is Ortiz’s last year where’s the logjam?

      • Plank

        I meant for this year.

  • JerseyDutch

    The funny part is that Jeter sometimes looks like a wax statue when playing shortstop.

    • Rookie

      Maybe he’s practicing for the last two or three years of his contract when, after he gets his 3,000th hit, somebody has the balls to remove him from shortstop and his feather weight hitting doesn’t justify any other spot in the lineup, so the Yankees just play with eight position players (and $23.8 million per year less in their pockets) and have him stand out in Monument Park.

      I think he has a much better chance of earning his contract that way. By the way, there might be more than a grain of truth there. When I looked last night, as I recall, FanGraphs estimates that he’s had a NEGATIVE value so far this year. It’s hard to believe that Nunez would have been any worse.

      I’m just glad that the Yankees didn’t insult him with a $10 million per year contract for “only” two years.

    • Rookie

      By the way, I’m sure it didn’t negatively impact the Yankees vis a vis the Rangers when we signed the wax statue that is Jeter for three years (plus) at $17 million per year and they signed Beltre for $16 million a year for five years.

  • mbonzo

    Random question of the night:
    Will the MLB draft ever be a snake draft? It just seems ridiculous that the best teams get to pick last simply because of their record. Just because a team is good in 2011, doesn’t mean they won’t need young players in 2015. These teams will start to rely on free agents if they can’t get good enough picks, and thats when payrolls get out of control for markets. (See Cardinals, Twins, even the Yankees, Mets, and Red Sox) These teams’ payrolls are all products of free agents signings, and limiting them in a draft will make payrolls sky rocket like they have the last 10 years.

    Winning team–>increased revenue–>worse drafted prospects–>more free agent signings

    A snake draft will allow the worst teams to get the top tier players and the better teams to get quantity over quality in terms of draft positions. Also, compensation picks are out of control, but thats another discussion.

    • Sheepmeister

      It would only work after the first 7 or so rounds but at that point, you can get some decent players, but the ones that are drafted are the ones that fell due to money where the big market teams can pay them anyway who would fall anyway. I just don’t see it happening, b/c by the time the snake draft would take effect (round 8 or later), its a total crapshoot anyway.

    • Plank

      I wish the draft were gone entirely. The purpose of the draft is to keep money out of young people’s hands. Either sign with this one team, or go wash cars. They set up the draft to try to get parity in the league, but that is a byproduct of the owner’s tightfistedness, not the purpose of the draft.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Call me crazy but I think the point of the draft was to get future talent.

        • Gonzo

          I am pretty sure the draft was initiated as a way of lowering young players negotiationg leverage. It was a way for the owners to lower costs of getting talent.

          It’s easier to pay below market if the player can’t negotiate with anyone else.

        • JohnnyC

          Plank is right. The draft was instituted in 1965 for 2 reasons: to stop the Yankees and to control bonus demands from amateur players. Without a draft, hypothetically, the Yankees could have signed both Strasburg and Bryce Harper for $100 million each.

          • Gonzo

            The bonus baby backlash.

  • http://www.retire21.org first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

    I think that there might be something to Jeter batting lefty. Granderson’s splits improved greatly when he stopped switch hitting and stuck strictly to the left side.

    • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

      I’m assuming this isn’t serious?

      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        you don’t remember the commenter who insisted on Granderson being a switch hitter?

        • Tank the Frank

          This site should have a link to the list of memes formulated here throughout the years. That way a new commenter can get the lay of the land, or a regular can catch up after coming back from a hiatus or something.

        • radnom

          It was one guy in one thread who I wouldn’t be surprised if he was just fucking with you people.

          And yet its still being talked about 8 months later………I’m sure a lot of people don’t remember

  • Honey Badger

    I don’t give a sh*t yo.

    • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

      This made me laugh, haha.

    • JerseyDutch

      I thought Friday was crazy poster day.

      • Esteban

        google randall honey badger

        • JerseyDutch

          That’s hysterical. (And a bit disturbing.)

  • JohnnyC

    Extra wild-card round of playoffs in 2012. Good, bad, or indifferent?

    • Tank the Frank

      I don’t like it. But I guess it ensures that the Yankees WILL make the playoffs, Every. Single. Year. For the rest of eternity.

    • JerseyDutch

      Bad.

    • Gonzo

      Good for baseball, bad for the Yanks.

    • mbonzo

      Bad. Too much time between playoff games as it is.

      Fix the leagues instead. IMO, there should be no divisions anymore, and all teams within a league should play each other an equal amount of times. This removes the division biases that exist, makes it a level playing field. Obviously the games would have to be scheduled more delicately when dealing with about 6-7 more cross-country games, but I don’t see that as a big deal. It would also prevent teams from beating up each other constantly within a league, and think about how much more a Yankees-Red Sox game would mean if it were only 11-12 games a year. Also, no more interleague games.

      The teams with the 4 best records should then enter the post season as normal. I know a lot of people will disagree with me.

      • JohnnyC

        Selig said today they have to work out the details but shortening the regular season would have to be an issue they have to confront.

      • JerseyDutch

        I think that would be a good way to do it. I could certainly do without interleague play.

      • YankeesJunkie

        I agree with the format except on the point of getting rid of interleague play. Divide the leagues into 15 teams each and have interleague play throughout the year even though for a single team will only represent 12-15 games. It is only 10% of the season which is important, but most for most of the teams the teams overall performance evens out.

        • CS Yankee

          love interleague…chance to see the studs from the other side. Should be 24 interleague games, 69 divison games & 69 league games.

          2 dozen & great position(s) twice…FTW

          • Speedy

            Hey the games against the Mets should be easy wins this year.

    • DCBX

      Bad. Playoffs = October. The season is already about as long as it should ever be… no more playing outdoors in November.

      • whozat

        I agree that’s an issue, but the thing that concerns me more is that a long layoff in baseball is actually bad. All the non-wildcard teams have to have their hitters sit around for four days before playing? Every starter is going on 8 days rest? All your relievers start the series rusty? That already happens between rounds the way they do it now, and it seems like this might actually just make it more likely that better teams lose out to lesser teams on a hot stretch.

    • Pasqua

      Good because it will (theoretically) increase the value of winning the division. The two wildcards in each league will play each other (short series, presumably) and have to work harder in order to get to the divisional round. That should be the idea of a wildcard, in my opinion. Right now, they’re essentially just a 4th division winner.

    • Pat D

      Only two ways this works for me.

      1) The two wild card teams play a best of 3 series. That way a 93 win team isn’t penalized for losing one game to an 87 win team, for example.

      2) Have a one game playoff between the two wild card teams. BUT…the only way this can happen is if you eliminate the divisions and play some kind of balanced schedule. That way there’s more equality when comparing teams’ records.

      If you’re not going to handle option 2, then you have to go with option 1.

    • http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/2010-preseason-top-30-prospects-21281/#comment-779224 LET SBGL BACK ON BRACKMAN’S DEBUT

      BAD

  • Tank the Frank

    I see Taylor Swift there… and is that some distorted version of Leonardo DiCaprio next to her? I don’t recognize the other chick.

    • JerseyDutch

      Leo DiCaprio? I thought that was Al Leiter.

    • Gonzo

      JLo?

  • Monteroisdinero

    Let’s try Gardy from the right side while we’re at it. BTW, Swish’s splits ain’t too great as he is battling Gardy for left sided ineptness.

    • CS Yankee

      Hey, I wanted Jesus left in SWB until at least June 1.

      However, if he continues this crazy run i’m thinking he has to get a call-up earlier, doesn’t he?

      Martin is & needs to be the catcher…Jorge has Arod, Teix, Chavez & Jones in his shadow already. Too bad Jesus can’t be the DH for Grit or Jete.

      • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

        You leave Jesus in there until June and someone will be killed.

        • CS Yankee

          IETC

  • dkidd

    yesterday was don mattingly’s 50th birthday. i celebrated (4/20) in his honor

    doesn’t it feel like he should be older than that? 1995 seems like a century ago

    • CS Yankee

      1995 seems like a century ago

      …1995 is a century ago.

      • dkidd

        good point

  • jorge brosada

    Since its looking more likely that Liriano will be on the trading block this summer, I have a question. What would you give up for him prospects wise if he’s having a decent year but not as good as last year and has been healthy so far?

    • CS Yankee

      Nova, Millwood, Silva, Liard AND a bag of balls.

      • jorge brosada

        replace that bag of balls with a bag of marbles and I think your on to something…

        • Gonzo

          So basically complain when another team acquires Liriano?

          • CS Yankee

            You have a point, stay with the bag of balls, nix the marbles.

          • jorge brosada

            I was kidding, but I would not be surprised at all if the Twins end up dealing him to another team for worse prospects than we could have given. Somewhat like the Haren deal

            • Gonzo

              Yes, the Yanks could have given them Jesus and Manny, so they did settle for an inferior ppackage than what the Yanks could have offered.

    • YankeesJunkie

      If Liriano is throwing about a 3.5 xFIP he should garner some fairly decent prospects, but not elite ones. While Liriano has shown that he has ace stuff, he has not shown to be a work horse quite yet, but more importantly it would only be a 1.5 year rental. I would try to offer David Adams/Eduardo Nunez, Hector Noesi/Adam Warren/David Phelps, and Jose Ramirez/young prospect. Depending on the third prospect I would be willing to throw in Brackman as a pitcher and maybe Romine as a position player, but it would most likely be a 3-1.

      • jorge brosada

        yeah, if we could trade 3-4 prospects without giving up an of the B’s that would be great. I’d throw Romine into the deal if necessary and try and keep Jose Ramirez and Brett Marshall from being included.

        • YankeesJunkie

          The only one of the Killer B’s that I would be willing to give up would be Brackman and if that were to happen it would have to be Brackman, Adams, and Pope or something along those lines. I think for the fact that Liriano is a bit underrated because he is not a workhorse in combination with his approx. 1.5 years left on his contract does not make him deserving of a top prospect.

      • JohnnyC

        If Liriano continues to pitch the way he’s pitching (55 ERA+ and 1:1 BB/K ratio), I wouldn’t give the Twins more than a couple of C prospects. Hate to get fleeced for 1 and 1/2 years of damaged goods (and a year of that likely on the DL due to surgery).

        • YankeesJunkie

          Obviously, those were not the parameters that I stated. If he is pitching that poorly the the Yankees should and would look at other options instead.

    • S

      the lint from my pants pocket

  • ultimate913

    Hypothetical situation:

    You’re Cashman. Bill Smith(Twins GM) approaches you with a one for one swap. R. Martin for F. Liriano. Do you bite?

    • dkidd

      i bite so hard i chip a tooth

    • Plank

      Yes, yes I do.

    • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

      I’d throw in Nunez just to make it look like I didn’t completely f*ck them.

      • Delaware – Ralph

        haha yes and yes.

    • CS Yankee

      I’d counter with Gardner…if no bite, I stall for time by saying my sick mother is on the other line…

      proceed to talk to Rothchild, Joe, CC, etc and if they say Martin handles the staff like no other.

      If Martin is that special, I extend him with some club options. If he is not the best thing since sliced-bread, I trade him as long as they (Joe & Larry) feel that Jesus, Cerv’, or Romine can get it done in regards to the SP’ers.

      • bonestock94

        If Martin is that special he’s gonna want guaranteed money

        • JohnnyC

          Martin’s still arbitration eligible in 2012 so there’s no need to extend him, regardless of how well he’s doing.

          • bonestock94

            Oh, forgot about that.

        • CS Yankee

          The key: you don’t tell him he is “that” special, you show him the vault of rings.

    • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      I’d say “Yes! No takesies backsies!” and hang up the phone.

  • bonestock94

    “Owners were unanimous in their desire to achieve a worldwide amateur draft in collective bargaining.”

    -Bud Selig

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    • jorge brosada

      what? If this is true then it is terrible news for the Yanks

      • The Big City of Dreams

        I guess now they have to really dig deep when it comes to scouting players. They already have low draft picks in the MLB draft and it will be the same in the international one.

    • CS Yankee

      So Cashman has how many days until he has to have signed every single foreign prospect 16 or older?

      Also, is there enough time for Levine to have altered 20,000 birth certificates?

    • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

      I can’t believe that it was unanimous.

      • DCBX

        Hal must’ve let Hank vote.

    • JohnnyC

      The major international talents would still have high bonus demands since they can choose not to sign just as the American kids can…and since they’re not enrolled in a colege program, they don’t have to wait 3 years to re-enter the draft.

      • Rookie

        Don’t put it past Chairman Bud to initiate a rule that creates similar limitations for international draftees — say not being able to re-enter the draft for x years. I strongly suspect that he would not want to leave open the door for players to in effect choose the Yankees or other deep pocketed teams by re-entering the draft annually until they got drafted by the team of their choice.

        • JohnnyC

          The NFL and NBA can place those restrictions on amateurs only because they have agreements with the NCAA. They’d have no legal ability to prevent an international draftee from simply re-entering the draft the very next year.

          • Rookie

            But couldn’t MLB just restrict teams from drafting them for x years? In other words, don’t they have authority over the teams even if they don’t have authority over internatinal draftees?

    • bonestock94

      http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s.....TE=DEFAULT

      Here’s the article, turns out its not a direct quote but point stands.

      • Plank

        Yeah, it’s much different. Plus the owners want a lot of things in collective bargaining. They also want all the players to pay the team for the honor of being on the field. They want every fan to drop thousands of dollars every day to see games. They want cities to bend over backwards to bankrupt themselves to give billionaire owners a free stadium (okay, that one really happens.)

        Wanting an international draft is similar in my mind to when they wanted contraction. They just bring it up so they can take it off the table during negotiation.

    • Esteban

      Hopefully this won’t lead to a decline in prospects from poor countries as happened when Puerto Rico was included in the draft.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      SMH expanded playoffs and a worldwide draft why not just come out and say we don’t want the Yankees to have any advantage.

  • pat

    I stared at that ad for at least 10 minutes on the subway the other day trying to figure out who that was. The crouch is somewhat Jeteresque, that’s about it.

    • Dela G

      Lol pat you and I both

      • pat

        Dude, I thought you were down in TX?

  • Epy0n

    If Beckett keeps pitching the way he is pitching he is going to be a pain in the ass for us this year.

    • Big Apple

      he is dealing…i can’t figure out who I hate more…beckett, youkilis, papi or papelbon…

  • Gonzo

    Is it official yet?
    Lowrie>Jeter

    • Rookie

      Truth be told, isn’t almost everybody?

      As I recall, when I looked it up in FanGraphs last night, there were only three shortstops with 50 or more ABs in all of MLB with less wins/value contributed so far this year. And I don’t believe that any of them were in the first year of a contract in which they would be earning $17 million per year for the next three years. Of course, they’re not icons.

      And thank goodness, we get to see Jeter get his 3,000th hit as Yankee — glory, glory, hallelujah — and avoid the unconscionable indignity of slaving under a two-year contract at the insulting rate of $10 million a year.

      • Gonzo

        Sorry, I don’t mean just statistically this year. I mean everyone is better than Hughes and Gardner statistically, but I still wouldn’t consider them better.

        That is, I wouldn’t consider Yuniesky better than Jeter even though he has better #’s this year*.

        *I didn’t look up Betencourt’s #’s.

      • Guest

        Here’s the thing. Jeter through an honest to goodness no other way to describe it hissy fit at his press conference where he discussed the contract. There’s no other way to describe it.

        Now, if you’re going to throw a hissy fit, (fanboy alert) you couldn’t have thrown it in a classier fashion. He didn’t talk about it for weeks leading up to the conference. He didn’t throw any one person under the bus. He said that was going to be all he had to say on the matter, and he has largely stuck to his word on it (ass usual). Again, as hissy fits go, it was pretty gracefully executed.

        But, it was a hissy fit nonetheless. Why do I bring this up?

        Well, how ridiculous does that press conference look in the face of Jeter’s slow start? Admittedly, SSS warnings. But he had a pretty crappy 162 games proceeding the last crappy 16. And he is 36. And they did give him 17 MIL A YEAR for the next THREE years and a PLAYER option for the fourth year.

        Given all of this, in hindsight, Jeters anger at “the way the Yankees went about” (I’m going to say it ‘cuz its true) overpaying him EVEN more than they are overpaying A-Rod (Best Worst contract ever) seems…a bit ludicrous.

        • Guest

          Excuse the typos/errors. I think the point still gets across.

  • V

    Well, it’s not just in Yankees’ games that umpires suck ass. Just watched Chris Perez walk a guy on 5 pitches. 4 were strikes.

    • V

      And god damn my fantasy team looks like crap right now. Especially if Youkilis goes down.

      • Big Apple

        by looks you mean performance…not looks as in good looks…cause losing Youk would make anyone team “look better” (just as long as you don’t have Lackey also!)

        • Andy in NYC

          I lol’d.

    • pat

      It was Perez’s fault. He should have known it only takes 3 strikes for an out.

  • Craig

    Here’s an idea: if Gardner and the Rays continue to suck, would anyone here be in favor of a platoon of jones/Damon in LF?

  • http://riveraveblues.com/2010/02/2010-preseason-top-30-prospects-21281/#comment-779224 LET SBGL BACK ON BRACKMAN’S DEBUT

    random thought: could we try to trade for matt thornton? strikeout lefty with knockout stuff who has had great results in the past, but has sucked so far this year. would they be willing to trade him?

    • Gonzo

      My initial reaction was no since they just gave him an extension, but then I remembered we’re talking about KW and Ozzie.

  • jorge brosada

    Hopefully Lowrie doesn’t become a star, because he has been annoyingly really good so far for the Sox

  • jorge brosada

    Also, Beckett needs to revert to last years form/ get injured ASAP. His current excellent pitching performance is unacceptable..

  • A-Rod’s Wingman

    The Angels lineup is terribad. I can’t believe there’s more Sox fans in the crowd than Angels fans.

  • pierce ferrisse

    Is it true that Jeter’s bat speed is only 79 mph?

  • http://www.bigdaddytickets.com Jeff Moreau

    I can go for extra teams in the playoffs, but are they going to be a .500 or sub .500 team?
    I keep hearing Jeter this and Jeter that, let the man play and see what happens.