Fan Confidence Poll: May 16th, 2011

Make it five losses in a row, Sox finish off sweep
A quick look at Randy Flores

Record Last Week: 1-5 (20 RS, 34 RA)
Season Record: 20-18 (190 RS, 166 RA, 22-16 pythag. record), two games back
Opponents This Week: @ Rays (Mon. and Tues.), @ Orioles (two games, Weds. and Thurs.), vs. Mets (three games, Fri. to Sun.)

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Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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Make it five losses in a row, Sox finish off sweep
A quick look at Randy Flores
  • jay destro


    • Johnny

      And a bababooey to y’all!!

  • cr1

    I’m a long way from NY and have been game-deprived, so my views were overly influenced by the writings of reporters and bloggers — until I had the chance to see the ‘Jorge asks out’ game on television. It was both painful and illuminating to watch. Far from the big problem being Jeter, whom everyone apparently likes to focus on, all over the field (and at the plate) were Yankees performing significantly worse than he. It was a shock because the media coverage has really not made that clear; I had to see it with my own eyes.

    Not a confidence-builder.

  • Bryan L

    7. Bad weekend. But if we sweep the Rays, we’re in 1st place.

    • BKLYN

      It’s more likely that we get swept by the rays than do the sweeping. At which point, I think we may have the longest losing streak in MLB for the year…

      Hard to stay positive with the way this team is playing. Shitty defense, shittier relief pitching, and the shittiest hitting. Murphy’s law has it’s cloud hanging over this team for the past 2 weeks.

      • Bryan L

        Nice optimism…

        • BKLYN

          Normally a glass half full type of guy… but it’s hard to be that when the glass is empty.

          • Clay Bellinger

            Empty? Dude we’re not the Astros.

            • CP

              It’s May 16 and the Yankees are 2 games back. Thus, the glass is empty.

              • Clay Bellinger


                Exactly, read your comment – It’s MAY 16 and the Yanks are TWO games back. Doesn’t sound so bad.

                • Clay Bellinger

                  Oops, just realized that wasn’t the same poster. Sorry!

              • BKLYN

                Haha, I’m being facetious when saying the glass is empty. it’s not like I voted 0, I voted 5.

          • Rob Thomsen’s Chili Farts


      • Fairweather Freddy

        Law of averages says that its due to turn around. What better time than against the Rays?

        • JobaWockeeZ

          I’m sure that’s a gambler’s fallacy.

        • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

          I think we can pull off AJ vs Price especially with the way AJ’s pitched the last few times out.

          I am not so sure about Nova vs Shields though. But hey, the law of averages says Shields is due for a bad start.

        • The BIG 3

          Law of averages suggest the offense will ultimately be fine but starters 3-7 will continue to be a problem.

          Didn’t change my opinion: 6 until the pitching is resolved.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Against Price and Shields? good luck.

      • Fairweather Freddy

        Learn to expect the unexpected

        • BKLYN

          I expected the Yankees to lose to the Sox and it happened. For the time being I’ll expect the expected and be pleasantly surprised when the unexpected happens.

          • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

            Well then wouldn’t you be surprised that the Yankees didn’t go 0-162 this year?

            • BKLYN

              Way to overly exaggerate things. I only expected the Yankees to get swept by the Red Sox because of the way they have been playing lately.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Of course but I’m not going to be optimistic about it.

        • neaks

          you know Suzyn, you can’t predict baseball

      • Bryan L

        Why can’t we beat those guys? What’s telling us we can’t beat Price and Shields?

        • JobaWockeeZ

          The chances aren’t good when “we” are facing two great pitchers with good histories against the Yankees. And it’s not as if “we” are tearing up the ball.

          I hope we’re not downright expecting wins now when we really have one hitter in Granderson right now.

          • Bryan L

            Yeah well it’s a new day against a new team. People need to actually have some optimism every once in a while. There’s a difference between expecting wins and keeping your head up…

            And don’t even get me started on the “we” thing. Cause you know you have referenced the Yankees as “we” at least once.

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Since Mike requested in 2009 for people to not do it I make a mental note to not do it.

        • Fairweather Freddy

          the quitters and doomsayers thats who. In other words, 98% of the “fans” that post on here

  • Matt Imbrogno


    I voted 8.

    • BKLYN

      Can I get some of those “uppers” your taking?

      • CP

        It’s called being realistic.

        • BKLYN

          I understand sarcasm, thank you for the explanation.

          I was asking for “uppers” cause he voted 8 and not because he said “DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED”.

          • CP

            I know. The 8 is realistic.

            • BKLYN

              Sorry, I must be going blind…. I for some reason thought you said “sarcastic” instead of “realistic” Apologize CP.

      • Matt Imbrogno

        Why an 8? Because for the last few weeks, the starting pitching has essentially been there and, this offense at its worst, is still league average. I’m confident this team will win lots more baseball games than it loses.

        • BKLYN

          Well, I don’t see the Yankee hitting continuing this slump, but in these past 2 weeks the Yankees have probably the worse record in baseball, or close to it.

          If they don’t turn it around, then this team is going to fall behind quick. They can be 5 games back after the Rays series. If that happened, would you still vote an 8?

          What would need to happen for that consistent vote of yours to drop?

          • Matt Imbrogno

            A lot more losing and something damning for the long term.

    • theyankeewarrior

      Wrong. 10. This team is on a mission.

  • bonestock94

    7. The pitchers that are supposed to suck don’t, and Hughes is supposed to be back midsummer so its not that bad. The team looks horrendous right now but its a slump. They probably have the best offense in the game when they’re firing on all cylinders.

  • Moshe Mandel

    I voted 9, as I have for a while now. Two bad weeks didn’t wildly change my opinion of this team. Slumps happen.

    • BKLYN

      Whats the point of a weekly fan confidence poll if you don’t let the up and down play of a team emotionally affect your vote.

      If everyone voted your way, the graph would be a straight line.

      The situation with Slade and Posada had to have some negative impact.
      Come on, wheres the fun in being consistent!!!!

      • Moshe Mandel

        If Heathcott had gotten injured, or CC needed major surgery, or something like that, I might change my vote. But a handful of bad games and an off-field distraction thing for a hitter in his last season? Nah.

        • BKLYN

          You’re a better man than most… ruled by logic and not his emotions.

          Your vote is for the long term outlook of the team and I get that.

          But at what point does team performance, and not organizational changes, affect your vote in this poll? There is only so much weight that we can put into the thought that “they are the Yankees, and they’ll turn it around”.

          At some point, we have to start basing things on what we see from the players over a period of time. I’m not trying to sway voters to lower their score, but trying to see how they are approaching this poll.

          I think everyone takes a different approach and that’s skewing our dataset.

          • Moshe Mandel

            If they continued to play this way through June, sloppy and hot-and-cold, I’d probably drop my score due to a lack of confidence in them in the short term.

          • Ted Nelson

            “At some point, we have to start basing things on what we see from the players over a period of time.”

            Yeah, exactly. And the point is that if someone hits well for the last 5 years and then has a cold streak for 5 games your first reaction should be to assume it’s a cold streak and not that they’ve suddenly forgotten how to hit. Once a player gets to Jorge’s age… ok… but combined the Yankees have a very talented offense that’s been under-performing a bit. Combined with some sub-par pitching performances they’re lost 5 straight.

            The poll is about what you expect going forward. Everyone knows they went 1-5 last week. If we all based our vote on that it would not be much fun either. Instead we base our votes on our expectations going forward.

            • BKLYN

              Fair points. Just wanted to add 1 more thing.

              It’s not uncommon to see a player turn a slump into a bad year, normally related to health reasons.

              The recent issues with Arod has me concerned his injury issues arent completely behind him.

              • Ted Nelson

                It’s not uncommon, but is it so common that all the Yankees’ Silver Slugger type line-up is going to simultaneously turn slumps into bad years?

                • BKLYN

                  I wasn’t trying to say that everyone on the team is going to have a bad year…

                  Just pointing out a concern about those certain players that have the injury/age cloud hanging over their heads.

    • Bob Stone

      I’m with you Moshe at 9. Many voters here seem to forget that it isn’t a vote ONLY about the play and news during the preceding week.

      To quote the poll description by RAB: “The Fan Confidence Poll is a weekly look into how the fans feel about the current team and the overall future of the organization”. That encompasses a lot of ground including the farm system, the business side, comparative performance versus rivals, likelihood of making the playoffs along with current position in the standings and current level of play.

      Long term business position rates a 10, the farm system a 9, position relative to competitors a 9 and current play at a 7. Overall that leaves me at 9 (actually rounded up from 8.75).

      I can understand being called too optimistic in giving current play a 7 and that an Overall Rating of 8 would be more realistic.

      • jaremy

        I think the fjture outlook is a little more grim than some give credit. In 3 years with Jeter, A-Rod, Teix and (possibly) CC in their twilight years, all in big-money contracs? That is frightening. Not to mention no more Mo closing – bullpen locked up by Joba the Hutt…

        Only way we can really compete with 100m locked up in those 4 is if at least 2-3 of the farm become legit everyday players. Otherwise we’re looking like the bloated mid-90s teams all over again. Except with stiffer competition.

      • jaremy

        I think the future outlook is a little more grim than some give credit. In 3 years with Jeter, A-Rod, Teix and (possibly) CC in their twilight years, all in big-money contracs? That is frightening. Not to mention no more Mo closing – bullpen locked up by Joba the Hutt…

        Only way we can really compete with 100m locked up in those 4 is if at least 2-3 of the farm become legit everyday players. Otherwise we’re looking like the bloated mid-90s teams all over again. Except with stiffer competition.

    • theyankeewarrior

      Again. Wrong. TEN.

      This team comes to PLAY.

  • Reggie C.


    This team can actually use help in all areas of the diamond. This weekend showed a glaring lack of focus among the position player to make routine plays.

    Carlos Silva has to get ready in a hurry to take that spot from Nova. The pen is sadly unreliable , starting with Joba who’s much better than what he’s shown. The lineup is reeling from slumps across the board.

    We are sliding.

    • Clay Bellinger

      Yeah, Carlos Silva should solidify the rotation.

      • bonestock94


  • Doug

    Same 7 I’ve had all season. No better, no worse than I expected

  • CP

    I voted a 10.

    Guess which team leads the league in R/G, has the highest OPS, second highest OPS+, and highest wOBA? The Yankees. The offense will be fine once the various players break out of their slumps.

    The pitching has been about league average so far, and I’m confident they’ll go out and get someone to shore up the rotation before the trade deadline.

    • Doug

      “The offense will be fine once the various players break out of their slumps.”

      The offense will be fine once the various players find the Fountain of Youth (fixed that for you)

      • CP

        Jeter, A-Rod and Posada could benefit from being a few years younger, and if Posada continues like he is the fountain of youth will be named Jesus Montero. So you’re basically talking about 2 players. I’m confident with A-Rod because he just seems to have gotten completely out of whack since missing a couple days with the oblique issue. Jeter may not hit much, but every lineup has at least one black hole.

        All of the other guys are 27-31, which should be their peak years. It’s possible they’ll never get going, but history suggests otherwise.

      • Ted Nelson

        Cano and Tex are so old… I can’t even believe it. They totally need a fountain of youth. Over 25 is SO old.

        No. Cano (28), Tex (31), Swisher (30), Granderson (30), Martin (28), Gardner (27)… these guys are all in theoretical prime years. That’s 2/3 of the line-up right there that’s 31 and under.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      It’s your opinion but no one should really be a 10 unless it’s the first week afetr a World Series victory. Every teams has flaws and the Yanks have a list of them.

      • Ted Nelson

        If people feel really confident about the team, why shouldn’t they be at 10? I vote 10 every week. Every week I’m confident about the team.

        To me a 10 doesn’t mean you win every game… it means you’re in the top 10% of the league. The next 10% is a 9. The next an 8… etc.

        • BKLYN

          Everyone has their own logic for how they vote. Nothing wrong with that. It just means that the data behind our votes, when looking at the average, loses a little of its meaning.

  • Steve Karsay

    6. 84 win team as it stands.

    • CP

      Well, they’re 20-18 which extrapolates to 85 wins, so you’re assuming they’ll play (slightly) worse the rest of the season than they have so far?

      • BKLYN

        Maybe a rounding error?

  • Clay Bellinger

    Why 84?

  • Monteroisdinero


    Jorge is making it easy to soon plan life without him.

    Even Girardi has figured out that Grandy needs to bat in the first inning of EVERY game-6 HR’s against lefties! Now if he would just abandon the bunt in only the rarest of circumstances.

    Arod so rarely pulls a fastball with authority in the air. He has become so easy to pitch to. Foul off a fb, swing and miss on offspeed stuff.

    Swish is awful. Period.

  • BigDavey88

    I voted an 8. Why?

    We play the Mets this weekend.

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      Maybe a dropped pop up can get us going.

  • Doug

    On our way to the lowest poll result the last 2 1/2 years. Average right now is 5.45. Since beginning of 2009 season, have never been below 6.

  • Klemy

    Still at an 8, because this is the future confidence in the team, not current slump confidence. I’m not going to drop my overall confidence in where the team is headed, based on a 5 game skid.

    That said, I’m not enjoying the games at all right now. It’s not easy to have confidence in anyone other than Granderson in a big spot. Someone has to break them out of it soon though, the odds say it will happen. They just aren’t this bad. At least, I hope they aren’t.

    • BKLYN

      I’m not arguing with your vote or your reasoning for it. I just don’t understand how people can rest their laurels on the thought that “odds say they will break out of their slump”.

      It’s not like we are flipping a coin or rolling a dice. Baseball odds don’t necessarily work out like that. Too much human element in play here.

      Some players just have really bad years and don’t recover from it until later seasons. It’s possible we are seeing that with some of our players.

      • Matt Imbrogno

        Yeah, there’s a ton of human element. And every single player in the starting lineup has proven that his “human element” is good enough to get him out of slumps.

  • LarryM.,Fl.

    I check 7. I have been an 8 on the positive side. So, I’ll explain my downgrade. I see a team in decline. You can call it a slump but a team with the offensive power that the Yankees have should not stumble offensively as a whole. Someone besides Granderson should run into one at an opportune time. Defensively last year they were second to none but this year everyone looks suspect and mentally making too many fundamental errors. Gardner and Cano need help.

    One question that we all should ask ourselves especially longtime Yankee fans. Do you really believe that the present rotation can get you to the playoffs and than win the WS. I’d say, “no.” Colon’s bubble will burst by injury or other teams catch up second time around. AJ, CC and Nova should do a credible job and keep us in games. The bullpen has been hit by the injury bug, Feliciano, Soriano and Robertson the next Scott Proctor. It seems like everynight Robertson throws about 30 pitches an inning. If Mariano is pressed to do more than he should by panic decision making down the road. We won’t be a .500 club.

    If Soriano ( he’s no Mariano) has an injury plaque year. He’s not opting out and the Levine’s and Steinbrenner’s will see the error of their ways.

    I know it sounds less than a 7 but I’m a fan with hope but I have seen the the teams of the 50/60’s show their declines. That era did not deal with icons as they do today and those era icons understood the extra money made at WS time.

    • BKLYN

      Well said. I vote 5 with the same reasoning.

      Cano’s defensive misplays have been bothering me all year. I must be spoiled by what he did last year. I know he’s better than what he’s showing me, and thats why his misplays drive me crazy. Not to mention they always seem to lead to a big inning. Its at the point where I expect the Yankees to give up 2+ runs whenever Cano makes a misplay…

  • The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

    I’m shifting down to a 7 from an 8. I tend to change my vote only once or twice a season, if at all, and while I’m confident in the long-term outlook, the immediate outlook (slumping team, etc.) is enough today to make me downgrade my vote slightly.

    One thing I’m very concerned about, and I hope to be proven wrong ASAP, is A-Rod’s struggles. He looked primed to have a monster season, but seems to have nagging health concerns that affect his play. That’s a pretty serious problem not just today, but for the next 7 years.

  • David, Jr.

    For this year a 7.5. Not as bad as they look right now. Longer term a 9, under the assumption that they have learned to stop creating these bonehead “icon” situations.

  • CMP

    They’re getting far better than expected pitching from Colon, Garcia and Burnett which almost certainly won’t last and they’re still barely above .500.

    I hate to say it but in my eyes, this is shaping up to be a transition year.

    • A-Rod’s Wingman

      They’re getting far better than expected pitching from Colon, Garcia and Burnett which almost certainly won’t last and they’re still barely above .500.

      This is what really does it for me. They’ve managed to waste an 0-6 start from both Boston and Tampa, several good starting pitching performances from guys who are shaky at best, and what happens when Colon, Garcia, and AJ regress? Totally agreed, they’ll likely miss the playoffs this year.

      • CP

        On the flip side, Boston (and somewhat Tampa Bay) have failed to fully take advantage of a 3-9 stretch by the Yankees, who are still only 2 games out and in second place.

    • LarryM.,Fl.

      I second that thought about transition.

  • Andrew

    It’s never going to stop raining, the world is ending on May 21st, Phil Hughes’ arm died three bloody deaths, Rafael Soriano sulked and bad attituded his way to $35 million guaranteed with 15 million opt outs with a bad elbow, the gritty blue collar little engine that could from Boston is now living their World Series dream on May 16th, every batted ball is a pop-up or grounder (unless it’s hit by Granderson), the sky is falling. That about sums it up no?

    • LarryM.,Fl.

      Andrew have you watched the games. The team has a virus and there is no anti biotic to cure it except major surgery but the patient has a series of long tern contracts which exclude the proper attention. Also, pitching is spotty at best.

      • Andrew

        They have a virus? Is it lupus? Or the more deadly Havingabadtwoweeksofbaseballitis? Because that second one, I hear it goes away with some patience and quality Tampa slumpbusting. Lupus though? Worse than the bubonic plague.

  • Cris Pengiuci

    I voted a 7. Had been voting 8, but after seeing the team play 4 games through the weekend, I’m concerned about ARod long term, have been concerned about Jeter and can’t figure out what’s going on with Teix & Swisher (and Posada appears to be toast, but that’s not too much of an issue since it’s the last year of his contract).

    Montereo will be brought up as a right handed DH and perhaps catch a game or so each week, they may need to get a lefty DH to platoon with Montero (one that could play the outfiled as well as Andruw Jones would be nice and allow the team the flexibility to release Jones). Pitching will most likely need to be addressed in some manner as well. Oh, and STOP THE BUNTING!!!

    Longer term, still hopefull that Montero and the B’s work out in some way, Jeter manages to at least replicate last season somehow for the next 2 years and retires prior to his 4th year (crosses fingers) and ARod doesn’t turn into a ghost of himself, while the team continues to consistently make the playoffs while reloading with younger talent.

    All of this leaves me at a 7 for now.

  • Monteroisdinero

    If Cano would add Grit to his game (dive for balls in the hole)….


  • Fairweather Freddy

    Interesting series as Yanks will face 2 completely different type pitchers these next 2 games. Price comes at you with pure heat. Sheilds relies on an annoying assortment of change ups and off speed stuff and works in his fastball. Big challenge for the slumping lineup, but maybe this is what they need to get refocused.

  • steve s

    AJ is our stopper. Enough said. A very well deserved 1 from management on down. I guess some of Custer’s men were still voting 8 or 9 until an arrow went through their head.

  • Kosmo

    I´ll give them a 6.5 .I see Arod and obviously Posada and Jeter on the downside of their respective careers.Gardner I just can´t figure and Granderson has been this season up until now a pleasant surprise.I thought Swisher turned a corner last season but I now have my doubts.Cano and Tex have been inconsistent.The starting pitching has been OK but one wonders what it will look like come All-star break.
    C.C has got to pick it up.
    I continue to be excited over the Farm system.

  • Tbord

    Now where did I put my big red panic button?

  • JFH

    i am still not sure what “overall future” means. but i have been a 5 all season and see no reason to change that. i am basing it on 2011 season only and what the future of 2011 looks like. this team, as currently constructed, is competitive but not championship caliber. that could change, but i am not very confident that there are teams willing to help us out with a trade either.

  • Will

    7. Most of the issues during the losing streak have related to fundamentals, and established major league players just don’t permanently forget the fundamentals overnight. That will improve. When it does, the team will start to win more games.

    Also, a quick rant–

    To the commenters on this blog who say things like “well, they’ll trade for a starter by the deadline and then they’ll be fine” or “Hughes will be back at some point and then they’ll be fine”…

    HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING THE GAMES?????? The rotation is fine, and all indications are that it will continue to be fine unless someone gets injured. Honestly, if you want to complain about a starter thus far, CC is the only one who’s really underperforming relative to his “position” in the rotation.

    But the main point is, EVERY SINGLE OTHER THING ABOUT THE YANKEES is more worrisome than the rotation at this point, so I fail to see what a trade, a healthy Hughes, or CARLOS SILVA can possibly do to right the ship.

  • paul

    Going into this season you had to know it was a transition year….In my heart I knew they would have a frustrating year.
    SP-CC in his prime, AJ in his prime (and performing well), Ivan-young, so we knew bumps would occur, Colon and Garcia-just old guys, old vets you were hoping to perform admirably (which they have)
    Not getting Lee hurt, Pettitte retiring-hurt. So your SP was going to be rough. No brainer.
    The bullpen-I was not for signing soriano. But once added-the BP should be phenom most nights.
    They have been frustrating as well.
    Offense-timely hits are missing, consistency sucks. Martin-solid, Tex-poor, Cano-ok, Jeter-awful, Arod-slumping.
    Gardner-how can one so fast not have SB instincts? Granderson-our MVP. Swish-tailing off. JOrge-sorry, but time to retire.
    Bench: Of course chavez hurts himself, A Jones has been a nice addition, Nunez needs time in ML, Cervelli-love his grit.
    DEFENSE: PISS POOR! did they even do infield/outfield in tampa this spring…wow…just shocking..
    anyways, venting over.
    Going to need lots of patience this year. Should we challenge for division title and wildcard-absolutely…but a huge turnaround is needed.

  • A-Rod’s Wingman

    So…I’m at a four. The entire team (sans Granderson/Gardner) is in a slump, the pitching is being held together by nuts and bolts, a few of the aging cogs are pretty rusty, and Tampa and Boston look like really good teams. This team’s pretty bad right now. They have a 35M reliever that can’t pitch, their two starter is on the “god knows when” plan for when he’ll next pitch, the clock may have struck midnight for Garcia, Nova’s well…Nova, Bartolo looks solid but who knows how long he’ll hold up and there doesn’t look like there’s much help on the trade market for a starter.

    As far as the offense goes, if Posada or Swisher hasn’t put together a few good weeks by mid June they should go out and get Beltran…he’s owed a lot of money and this is his contract year so I can’t imagine the cost would be too terribly high.

    • Tom Swift

      If you are so pessimistic, why are you for giving up something for Beltran? Wouldn’t it be better to take our lumps this year and wait until next? Me, I’m not so gloomy. The Yanks have had some bad luck, but they are only 2 games behind the Rays with lots of games to play. Plenty of time to retool and adjust.

      • A-Rod’s Wingman

        You can never give up, there’s a definite need for a retooling though. This team in it’s current state? Meh. Not very confident.

      • CMP

        I wouldn’t give up much for Beltran.

        With the financial shape the Mets are in, eating the entire $9-10 million left on his contract plus a B level prospect should be more then enough. The worst thing Cashman can do is overpay for a guy who could be lost to injury at any moment.

  • Billy Mumphrey

    3. All good things must come to an end. Posada’s done. Jeter’s done. I don’t even want to think of when Mo is done.

    • Clay Bellinger

      hahah wow, why watch the rest of the season right?

  • Jeff Karstens, Male Model

    5, based heavily on a real concern I have that seeing an aging offensive core, and whatever other uncomfortable locker room situations may arise around Posada’s role on the team, CC may opt out for a different reason then the one we all anticipate.

  • Ryan

    Its awesome how the poll results look like a standard deviation graph

  • Jorge

    7, now let me go retreat into my corner and weep.

  • Michael

    I voted 6. Until the offense shows some consistency, that’s as high as I can go.

  • dkidd

    7, down from an 8

    more worried about the rays than the red sox

    we will hit. by god we will hit!