May
29

Game 51: Save us CC, you’re our only hope

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(AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)

After two brutal, borderline unwatchable losses, the Yankees will send CC Sabathia to the mound to try to salvage this series against the Mariners. The good news is that Sabathia has a 1.94 ERA in six starts against Seattle since becoming a Yankee, and he’s won five of them. Please, just win. Here’s the lineup…

Derek Jeter, DH – I laugh every time I write this
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Nick Swisher, RF
Andruw Jones, LF
Eduardo Nunez, SS
Frankie Cervelli, C

CC Sabathia, SP

Today’s game starts at 4:10pm ET and can be seen on YES. Try to enjoy.

Fun Fact: Jeter made his big league debut 16 years ago today, also in Seattle. Cool.

Categories : Open Thread
  • Don W

    Fun fact, I was @ Jeter’s first game….and I’ll be there today as well. Happy B-day to me!_

  • Xstar7

    OH LES DO IT!!!

    • Esteban

      That run-scoring music.

  • Scout Finch

    I don’t know if there’s a weaker Yankees lineup than this one. Just 4 good hitters. CC’s gonna have to dominate today.

  • Cy Pettitte

    1. Jeter DH is so ridiculous, please stop doing this and just give him an off day
    2. I miss Aceves

    • A-Rod’s Wingman

      Jeter did hit a double off of Felix yesterday so there’s that.

  • Esteban

    David Cone’s scouting reports come much closer to actual scouting reports than most other broadcasters.

  • Xstar7

    Jetes with a leadoff walk.

  • pat

    Of course that f*cking dickbag Valverde gives up a solo HR to Ortiz in the 9th. I love how teams just roll over for the Sox.

    • Xstar7

      Teams don’t just roll over for the Red Sox. The Red Sox just out play those teams because they’re much better.

      • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

        Except for the Angels. They absolutely roll over the Sox.

    • Bunting?…More like Punting If You Ask Me

      Luckily, the it’s late-May. The games don’t count, according to RAB.

  • The Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin’ mothafucka, mothafucka)

    Changes that should be looked at to make this team better:

    1. Nick Swisher’s playing time and place in the batting order must be dropped. It’s basically June now. He’s an automatic out right now and hasn’t been much better since the season started. Even if Dickerson and Jones are a marginal improvement, it’s better than nothing.

    2. Replace Ivan Nova with Hector Noesi. Just have them switch roles. And do it immediately.

    3. Last but certainly not least, swap Jeter and Gardner. Won’t happen but should happen.

    4. This is an extra one for me… have a manager who knows his baseball team and doesn’t have them bunt for runs or have defined bullpen roles that go all the way down to the 5th inning. But I digress…

    Who’s better? Who would you rather have you ask? I don’t know. It’s just something I’d like to see happen whether it’s Girardi or someone else.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      Nobody complained about Girardi in 2009. I’m not a particularly huge fan of Girardi, but come on, you’re really only as good as your team. Isn’t that right, Mike Scioscia?

    • Esteban

      Well, hopefully today is the start of Swisher proving you wrong.

    • Bunting?…More like Punting If You Ask Me

      Swisher should perhaps bat 2nd. He’s been great there in the past and having a better hitter behind him will help.
      Unfortunately, the team captain is selfish so they have to keep him in one of the top two spots.

    • CP

      1. Who should take his playing time? He’s been hitting ok against lefties, so it wouldn’t make sense to give his time to Andruw Jones. I guess you could play Dickerson more, but what makes you think he’d be any better than Swisher from here on out? Swisher has a long track record of good hitting, so he’s pretty likely to rebound.

      2. I’m ok with that, but it’s not going to be some magical concern.

      3. I’m fine with Jeter leading off against lefties, but he should be swapped with Gardner against right handed starters.

      4. The Yankees have 11 sac bunts this year, and 9 are by Gardner, Nunez, Dickerson or Cervelli. Having Granderson bunt is stupid, but those other guys should all be good bunters and it’s fine to have them bunt. As for the bullpen, Girardi has shown an ability to not overwork relievers and get the best relievers in the highest leverage situations. What more can you ask for? It may be frustrating to watch, but it probably helps the relievers in their routine warming up and getting ready.

  • A-Rod’s Wingman

    I didn’t catch the end of the last two games, but I’m not really surprised with losing to Pineda and Felix. However, the way they lost was inexcusable…just fucking horrible. I also noticed that Nova has the highest contact percentage for anyone who qualifies for the ERA title, he should probably be the first to get replaced out of anyone in the rotation.

    • Xstar7

      He is our 5th starter you know.

      • Bunting?…More like Punting If You Ask Me

        I thought Freddie was? or Colon? Revisionist history?

        • YankeesJunkie

          So many fifth starters so much sadness.

        • Xstar7

          Actually I’m not even sure anymore. The Yankees have a clusterfuck of guys who should be fifth starters.

          • LarryM.,Fl.

            How can the Yankees develop any young players if they are not allowed to experience growth on the mound. Trial and error is the worst way to learn but this is baseball. I would give up on Freddie or Colon first before Nova.

    • Scout Finch

      He will be. If he continues to struggle by not getting through 5 I think we’ll see Noesi replace him and hopefully Hughes will eventually take over that spot. Nova can be the long man in the pen.

      • YankeesJunkie

        This! No reason not to give Noesi a chance.

      • A-Rod’s Wingman

        He seems like the better long man candidate than Noesi. I don’t have much faith in Hughes even pitching this year, let alone being a capable starter.

    • YankeesJunkie

      I wouldn’t surprised if they skip Nova’s start on Thursday.

  • Xstar7

    Keep it up CC

  • Scout Finch

    The good news is that if we can push across a couple runs that should be enough for Big CC against this lineup.

  • Cy Pettitte

    final-fucking-ly Swish

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Boy did Swish need that.

  • Scout Finch

    Hopefully Swish is turning it around. He’s had some good swings.

  • Xstar7

    TRY CATCHING THAT ONE GUTIERREZ!

  • YankeesJunkie

    Always nice to see Swish get a hit during his atrocious year so far.

  • A-Rod’s Wingman

    Hopefully this game that starts with a 1-0 lead from a Solo Shot ends better than the last ones. Great to see Swish hit some balls well in Seattle.

  • Kevin

    Road Swish (?)

  • Cy Pettitte

    lol, that was a violent swing

    • Ivan

      I do not think he was going for a single in that AB.

  • YankeesJunkie

    Awesome swing by Jones.

  • Xstar7

    Nice at bat by Jonesy

  • A-Rod’s Wingman

    Didn’t know that Andruw has 411 career jacks…any chance he gets to the Hall?

    • Xstar7

      If he does, it will be because of his home runs and 10 gold gloves. The guy never hit very well for average

      • Ivan

        Not really the Avg thats the problem but Jones has a career .338 OBP% and an OPS+ of 111 which is certainly would you say HOF worthy.

        • Xstar7

          Also, he has cumulative career WAR of over 60

          • Xstar7

            *a cumulative career WAR of over 60

          • Ivan

            Yeah but how much of his value came into the fact that he was a unbelievable defender at CF.

            I know that offense from a CFer like Jones is very rare, but, a .338 OBP% and an OPS+ 111 isn’t HOF material.

            Plus he tailed off so quickly and so badly tho.

            • Xstar7

              I’m not saying he should get in. But worse players have.

              • Ivan

                I understand no doubt.

    • Ivan

      I don’t think so, especially the way his career just tailed off.

      • Pat D

        I think this is what will keep him out.

        That and the fact that 400 home runs doesn’t mean much anymore, especially for someone who played during the steroid era.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      He should get serious consideration, at least. 400+ homers and the best defensive center fielder of his generation? There are players with lesser credentials in Cooperstown.

      • Pat D

        Yes, but now the voters are much more discerning and the Veteran’s Committee isn’t set up so Frankie Frisch and Bill Terry can convince undeserving former teammates of theirs belong in the Hall.

        I think Jones stays on the ballot, but never comes all that close.

      • A-Rod’s Wingman

        That’s my thinking too.

  • bonestock94

    So happy swish got a second chance after that beautiful cut for a foul.

  • Cy Pettitte

    Instead of changing the rules for blocking the plate just tell catchers not to go down on their knees. boom, problem solved.

    • CP

      They don’t even need to change the rule. If a defender blocks a player from getting to the next base, it’s obstruction (or interference, I can’t remember which is which).

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Christ. This team can’t protect a lead to save its life.

    • Pat D

      You’ve been awfully negative lately. You used to never say stuff like this until the situation was fully played out.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        I’m frustrated because they’ve been playing like shit since last August.

        • Pat D

          I see. You’re reaching your breaking point. Or have reached it.

          I have the same problem at my job right now, which is why I’m hoping to take a four-week leave.

        • CP

          They have the best run differential in the AL this year. How is that playing like shit?

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            Stranding a zillion runners, stopped hitting bullpens, Cano’s defense, Jeter, Posada, Swisher, etc.

            • Esteban

              Good thing you’re not a fan of the Twins.

    • CP

      Those 1-0 ties are bitch, huh?

  • Xstar7

    Nice strikeout CC. Now let’s get Micael Saunders out.

    • Xstar7

      He did it!

  • YankeesJunkie

    Nice job by getting out that jam by CC.

  • Bronx Byte

    Attention Yankee position players !

    There is such a thing as giving your pitchers run support or a cushion to work with. Also, stranding runners at an incredible rate is a no-no.

  • Scout Finch

    3rd game in a row they’re making the starter throw a lot of pitches. We might be able to get him out in the 5th.

    • tom

      Leading to four hitless innings by the bullpen. (Sorry; seen it too often this week)

    • YankeesJunkie

      Time for A-Rod to mash the ball.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Is that a good thing given how they’ve performed against the bullpen the last two days?

      • A-Rod’s Wingman

        They can’t suck this hard for this long.

        • Mike HC

          Yea, we are bound to start hitting these mediocre pitchers. The numbers will even out.

          • A-Rod’s Wingman

            I mean, I’m always around a five or a six in the confidence poll (1-10 scale where a five is the middle of the road) but…they’re probably at least a 90 win team unless the pitching staff completely falls apart (which wouldn’t be surprising given its composition) but they should be at least able to stay competitive (which, for the record isn’t good enough for me).

      • Scout Finch

        It usually is, especially when we played 14 innings last night. What happened to you? No patience in May anymore?

  • J-Rod

    2 bbs!

  • V

    Wow, watching Granderson pull those outside pitches is fun.

  • Total Dominication

    Teix up on fiyah with 2 on? Excellent.

  • Mike HC

    small ball … ha

  • Total Dominication

    Come on Alex.

  • Xstar7

    Tex just bunted, without bunting. Hopefully A-Rod doesnt have another RISP fail.

  • Total Dominication

    Shit!

  • V

    Wow. Jeter looks slow out there. What the fuck was that slide?

    • Pat D

      Yea, he should have Scott Cousins’d his ass.

    • Bunting?…More like Punting If You Ask Me

      He’s looked slow all season. I guess he was too busy fucking the Yanks in the ass to do cardio in the offseason.

      • Pat D

        Such eloquence and originality.

  • Mike HC

    Jeter should have speared the catcher WWE style.

    • Mike HC

      Or defenseless NFL receiver style

  • Xstar7

    Just our luck

  • YankeesJunkie

    FUCK! Just can’t get a fucking break. Nothing you can do about it.

  • YankeesJunkie

    Wait what just happened?

  • A-Rod’s Wingman

    Jeter shoulda Posey’d the catcher.

    • Mike HC

      hahah … I think everyone was on the same page on that play

      • A-Rod’s Wingman

        Especially given how much I’m sure everyone here has grown to loathe Miguel Olivo over his careerand the weekend for a multitude of reasons.

        • Pat D

          Except he’s not catching.

          • A-Rod’s Wingman

            Well you can spear him in effigy then.

  • Xstar7

    ROBBIE CANO SAYS FU TO THE RISP FAIL

  • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

    Multi-run lead now.
    Let’s hold it.

  • Mike HC

    Come on Swish. Break out day today!

    • A-Rod’s Wingman

      I think this may be one of those odd home/road splits years for Swisher.

  • Total Dominication

    So what’s with the sudden stealing from Robbie? He used to be Posada out there….and Kenny mentions it before I post.

  • Xstar7

    Bases loaded for Andruw Jones? wonderful

  • Ivan

    Its either GS or K here with Jones.

  • first time lawng time

    This time last year, we would be stomaching a terrible loss in which Joba blew a 10-5 lead to Cleveland.

    The Yankees would then go on to lose 13-11.

  • Mike HC

    CC can literally sleep walk through this lineup … haha

    • FIPster Doofus

      Yep. Game over.

  • YankeesJunkie

    Thank you!!!!

  • Pat D

    OMG. Runs!

  • Esteban

    FUCK YES.

  • V

    He looked out by a mile, lol.

  • Mike HC

    Jones!!!

    Swish looked a bit stiff running there.

  • Xstar7

    ANDRUW JONES JUST EARNED HIS (pin)STRIPES!!!!!!

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Waaa I want Jorge Vazquez.

    • YankeesJunkie

      Yeah! Jorge Vazquez would have hit three homers today.

    • A-Rod’s Wingman

      Honestly, I think we make too much out of a select small group of assholes on this site. Yeah, there’s always going to be idiots clamoring for the wrong thing. Who cares? The “Jorge Vazquez can be a good major leaguer” can be easily debunked, there’s actual live controversies that exist on this current team.

      • Esteban

        Haha Im arguing with a friend (via txt messages) about Vasquez. He says shoulnt be too happy about Andruw Jones today because it was off Jason Vargas and his 4.55 ERA.

        • A-Rod’s Wingman

          Case in point: their arguments have easy un-refutable counter arguments. In this case it’s “Back ups aren’t supposed to be able to kick ass everyday, if they were they’d be starters.”

          Stop being friends with him, and spell out “text” you can’t possibly be half as stupid as that makes you sound.

  • Ivan

    Ok im going to be honest, I did not see a bases clearing double by Jones there.

  • Total Dominication

    YES!!!!!!!!! Successive 2-out RISP hits!!!

  • Pat D

    Think Swish was out.

  • Mike HC

    And we got the call!!!

    Today is looking like our day

  • FIPster Doofus

    LOL at Nunez’s slide.

  • Hall and Nokes

    WTG Ondruw!

  • Pat D

    Nunez just scored a 100 on the unintentional comedy scale.

  • Total Dominication

    Yay Nuñez!!!!!! although what in Mo’s name was that slide?

  • Xstar7

    That was beautiful, Nunez

  • Ivan

    That was a reckless slide there by Nunez lol.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Ten for the swing, two for the dismount.

    • Pat D

      The dismount is more like a negative seven.

  • Scout Finch

    There’s your runs, CC. Take us to home.

  • Total Dominication

    3 consecutive 2-out RISP hits!!!!!

  • Cy Pettitte

    better slide: Nunez or Olivo last night? lol

  • Scout Finch

    Will this offensive outburst stop all of the negativity? I’ve seen it even by the people who run the site. It’s still May and we’re on our west coast trip. 5-4 on this trip would be successful and we can still do that by winning the next 2 series. 4 months of baseball left.

    • Esteban

      No, this won’t. Apparently, you’re not a Yankees fan unless you’re pessimistic.

      • Xstar7

        You’re not a Yankees fan unless your glass is half-empty.

    • Mike HC

      Axisa, like most fans, can flip the switch from hopeless to euphoric is a split second. I have seen him defend the Yanks and also shit on them. I think we have all been there.

    • A-Rod’s Wingman

      Nope. The pessimism comes from several sources:

      Jeter’s slump
      The pitching staff
      Swisher’s slump
      Posada’s slump
      The giant can of whoop ass that Boston just opened this month
      The questionable status of A-Rod’s health.
      There’s also some longterm concerns regarding a few players on the team, but that’s a good start.

      • Mike HC

        There is a whole lot of failing that goes on in baseball. You can find things to complain about on just about every team that ever played the game, no matter how good or bad.

        • A-Rod’s Wingman

          Well 2009 team didn’t have three of those concerns (at least), I mean, there’s legitimate concerns about this team. I think this team is definitely worse than the 2009 team and needs to stabilize the pitching staff and get one or two of the slumping batters going. I think the pessimism this year is amplified because of how much better Boston is than the Yankees and how good they are relative to the rest of the league. I can handle not being the best team in baseball, just not when the best team in baseball is Boston.

          • Mike HC

            Plenty of complaining going on during 2009. That was the year we came off missing the playoffs in 2008 for the first time in like 20 years or whatever. Pessimism was running high.

            But agreed that there are legitimate reasons to be pessimistic as well. Competition is very good.

          • Scout Finch

            And we still have the best run differential in all of major league baseball.

          • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

            How quickly you forget. There were plenty of people calling for Damon and Matsui to be cut in April and May, bitching about Tex’s slow start, CC’s slow start, Wang getting hurt, A-Rod never being the same because of the surgery/PED’s.

            • Scout Finch

              I remember that. “All Matsui does is his slow grounders to 2nd.” Wang was a disaster to start the year. And remember 2009 was the year we started 0-8 against…..the Boston Red Sox.

            • A-Rod’s Wingman

              Yeah, Damon and Matsui posed some legitimate concerns, as did Wang…god what a disaster that was. Tex always started slow, and CC was never a “real” concern. The 0 fer start against Boston sucked quite a bit, and as far as A-Rod goes…has he ever been quite the same? I’m unsure his hip will ever fully heal, he should still be good and helpful to the team…but not quite the same guy he was before the hip

  • Charles

    Woah more 2 out RISP hits in 2 batters than this entire series…

    • Total Dominication

      *3 batters

  • Pat D

    Cone, you’re missing the point.

  • Ivan

    Hey guys speaking of CFers, who would you guys take in their prime?

    1. Andruw Jones
    2. Bernie Williams

    • first time lawng time

      Melky Cabrera

      • Esteban

        Greg Golson.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I love Bernie, but this isn’t close in my eyes.

    • A-Rod’s Wingman

      For one season or a period of five years or so?

    • Xstar7

      Andruw Jones

    • Ivan

      I will go Bernie Williams. I think he was a much better hitter than Jones was.

      Defensively yes Jones has him relatively beat.

      Its close, but I got Bernie.

  • Xstar7

    That was a pretty play by Cano. He makes it look easy.

  • Mike HC

    Cano is the smoothest second baseman I have ever seen making that play up the middle.

    • Mike HC

      Growing up, I always patterned my game after Derek Jeter. If I were growing up with this team, no doubt it would be Cano who I would try to mimic.

  • Naved

    Does David Cone not realize if there are equal number of teams in each league that means there has to be interleague play all season long.

    • Pat D

      No, he doesn’t.

      The only way to get the solution he wants is 2 more teams.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Every time I see Chone Figgins I want to violently hurt him.

  • V

    Gawd, I wish the league I have Lance Berkman in were an OBP league…

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Saw something earlier today that said he has 24 walks in his last 85 plate appearances.

      • V

        He really should be batting higher in the lineup. He’s doing the Cardinals no good by being pitched around every AB.

        I’d probably do Theriot, Jay, Pujols, Berkman, Holliday, Rasmus, Craig, Molina, Schumaker, pitcher.

  • Jimmy

    Man Nunez has a cannon

  • Pat D

    Alomar, Clemente, Mays.

  • Esteban

    This is even better because it makes David Cameron upset.

    • Pat D

      Why would the Prime Minister of Great Britain care about this game?

      • Nick

        yeah why would David Cameron be watching this game?

        • Esteban

          LOL meant Dave Cameron of fangraphs and USS Mariner.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    My fantasy team needed that homerun. Fuck balls!

  • V

    Blegh, I hate this fucking ballpark. Another Curtis BOOM at Yankee Stadium.

  • Cy Pettitte

    that was a laser by Grandy

  • Xstar7

    Clutch Teixeira

  • first time lawng time

    Roberto Alomar is one.

    • Pat D

      Clemente and Mays are the others.

  • the tenth inning stretch

    Well that was ugly.

    • Xstar7

      Alex should’ve made contact. That was not a good at bat for him.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Cool, A-Rod.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    What is with all these hit and runs lately? Stop trying to force it, man.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      It’s better than bunting.

    • YankeesJunkie

      I am going to assume at this point that the Yankees will be trying to get out of Seattle as quickly as possible.

  • Scout Finch

    Reminder to all of you doomsayers: The Yankees have the best run differential in major league baseball.

    • Atticus Finch

      Quit tormenting the doomsayers. You should treat everyone equally.

  • http://Www.or.ly JM

    Did Cone just say the Red Sox are off the suicide watch? I mean, if I had to see Youkilis and Ortiz together in the clubhouse everyday…

  • Mike HC

    Gotta love Cone bringing in the defensive metrics to praise Ryan’s fielding ability and range.

    And then of course YES pans to Jeter. Passive aggressive? ha

  • Xstar7

    David Cone is making Ken Singleton look stupid.

  • Urban

    Con-e trying to introduce advanced fielding metrics to the masses.

    Approved.

  • Mike HC

    That Cliff Lee trade is still a mystery to me. Singleton thinks Cashman refusing to add Nunez was the difference. But it seems Seattle really did want Smoak all along. I don’t know.

    • the tenth inning stretch

      I think maybe they felt that Smoak was the guy they really wanted, but perhaps the overall value of the package with Nunez was greater than the value of Smoak.

    • V

      I’m wondering if they felt like Smoak = Montero, and would rather take the stud prospect from a division rival than a non-division rival.

      • the tenth inning stretch

        Although I’d think they’d prefer to trade their ace pitcher out of the division.

  • Jimmy

    Kenny and Cone. Man I love these 2.

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    What the eff, CC? End this shiz.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Hey, CC. Can we not do this?

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Yeah baby

  • Cy Pettitte

    what a DP, go CC

  • Jimmy

    Big Ace baby

  • YankeesJunkie

    1-2-3 which was nice.

    • the tenth inning stretch

      On top of the inning-ending DP, it was a 1-2-3 which satisfied my OCD.

  • Xstar7

    That was beautiful CC.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    LOL Sesame Steet double play

  • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

    Ichiro is dangerously approaching the Jeter Zone. Looks close to done.

    • Xstar7

      That’s going to suck hard for Mariners fans.

    • Urban

      I was wondering the same thing. Are we seeing age, or is he simply slumping? He has gone through periods like this before, so it makes sense to give him more time before sticking the fork in him. Yet he’s right up there in Jeter’s age range, so…

      • Urban

        Of course, if that means Ichiro simply starts hitting more slowly tapped ground balls to short as does Jeter, Ichiro might actually increase his BA! That’s always been his game.

  • Yankee Bigot

    Brett Marshall pitched well for Tampa today. Anyone familiar with his pitching repertoire?

  • Cuso

    Please, please, please continue quoting statistics that are good disguises. Really, they’re so valid.

    I mean they score 5+ runs a game, but they score 9 in one game & then 1 in the next. But, their “average” is controlling right?

    Oh, and run differential? yeah, it means a shit-ton when you lose 10-15 one-run games and then 1 out of every five games you obliterate a team and win 9-0 (not to mention they do that when CC is on the mound).

    HEY! ignorant people! Run differeential and avg runs/ggame are not telling the story with this team.

    I love the runs being scored today, but why don’t they do that during Colon, Garcia or Nova starts when we actually NEED it?

    • Urban

      Troll.

      • Cuso

        not a troll.

        i apologize for the ‘ignorant people’ comment but stand behind the rest of my post.

    • Ben from Stanford

      It’s simply not true that the Yanks’ variance is greater than for other teams. Every team varies like that.

      • Ben from Stanford

        In fact, the Sox, for example, have a higher variance (and lower runs per game) than the Yanks.

        • Scout Finch

          Stop using facts and numbers. Base your opinion solely on what you’ve seen the past 3 days, it’s the Yankee way.

        • V

          What #s do you have?

          • Ben from Stanford

            I had the Yanks with a standard dev of 3.2 runs (and average 5.14 RS/G), and the Sox with a standard dev of 3.4 (average 4.88). Did you get something different?

            • V

              You’re right.. I had a screwup in my calcs. But the Yankees are 4th in the majors, so still have a pretty high variance.

              Correlation coefficient of RS/G and sd(RS/G) = 0.65
              Correlation coefficient of RA/G and sd(RA/G) = 0.13

              • Ben from Stanford

                Where’d you get the list of scores for all major league teams in a convenient form? I just copy/pasted the Yanks and Sox manually.

                In any case, like you’re pointing out, obviously you’d expect higher variance with higher RS/G, so the Yanks being 4th in the majors isn’t too surprising. What if you normalize by dividing the std by the mean? That’s basically the variance per run scored, which should equalize the field for all teams.

                • V

                  I didn’t; copy/pasted all 30 team’s schedules/results from Baseball-Reference into Excel and calculated manually ;-)

                  Since there’s a high correlation between std and mean, dividing the std by mean will (generally) reverse the order, and the Yankees are fourth lowest.

                  • Ben from Stanford

                    Such dedication :).

                    If dividing std by mean puts the Yanks in 4th to last, that means that if every team’s run total were adjusted as if they scored exactly the average runs for the entire league, the Yanks’ variance would be 4th lowest. So basically, people who say the Yanks’ hitting is inconsistent are completely wrong.

      • V

        Are you sure? I have the Yankees as the 2nd highest variance of all major league teams. Of course, variance in RS/G appears to be VERY HIGHLY correlated with RS/G.

        Variance in RA/G is NOT very correlated with RA/G, OTOH.

    • Mojo

      Agreed.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I love the runs being scored today, but why don’t they do that during Colon, Garcia or Nova starts when we actually NEED it?

      Clearly, the Yankees need to work on their run budgeting skills. They were probably the kind of kids that blew their allowance the day they got it.

  • Xstar7

    Wonderful at bat for Cervelli

  • FIPster Doofus

    Dammit. I thought that was leaving the yard.

  • the tenth inning stretch

    Crap.

  • Cy Pettitte

    wow that was brutal, too bad for Grandy.

  • Jimmy

    Another Home run at Yankee Stadium

  • Xstar7

    Son of bitch. That’s a home run in YS3

  • V

    Can I ask a question?

    Why is Yankee Stadium ‘ridiculous’ for the short fences, but this fucking piece of shit stadium isn’t ‘ridiculous’ for being such an obvious pitcher’s park?

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      I agree. Add Citi Field to that list.

      • Pat D

        Petco and Dodger Stadium, too, right?

        • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

          Petco, yes, although it’s a nice venue. Dodger Stadium is just a piece of shit in every aspect.

          • Pat D

            You just killed a piece of Vin Scully’s soul. How dare you!

    • Xstar7

      But, but Safeco field is a gem!

    • Urban

      …because people focus on offense and like to pick on “cheap” HRs, but they don’t bother focusing on “cheap” pitching stats.

      I like parks with a little character, from Yankee Stadium, Wrigley and even that place north of NY. Petco? Citi? Yuck.

      • Xstar7

        But, but Citi field has the big apple thing……

  • Rey22

    Granderson is a beast. Even his outs are ridiculous lasers lately.

  • Urban

    Well, in response to what Singleton just said, if they were so sure it was going to leave the year, why were they running?

    Were they stealing, or was that a hit and run? If they just started running because they thought it was gone, then that was bad baserunning.

    • Pat D

      Doesn’t matter what it was supposed to be, it was bad.

      • Urban

        Yup, I know it was bad. Just trying to figure out what led to the bad!

  • first time lawng time

    HP ump is bad.

  • Cy Pettitte

    will Chone Figgins ever get another hit?

    • the tenth inning stretch

      On the same day Jeter hits his next HR.

  • Xstar7

    Justin Smoak with the garbage time home run. LOL

  • Jimmy

    Keep pounding the zone big Ace

  • James A

    John Danks: My new favorite pitcher
    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb

    • Xstar7

      Who does John Danks think he is? Dallas Braden?

    • FIPster Doofus

      Chalk it up to a good pitcher having a miserable year and directing his frustration at Bautista.

    • Esteban

      That should not be his concern,” Bautista said of Danks’ reaction to the popup. “I was upset at myself with missing a pitch. If he took it the wrong way, I’m sorry. I’m not here to make him feel good.

      Bautista should become a villain like Jack Parkman from Major League II.

  • V

    Come on CC, my fantasy team needs some WHIP improvement…

  • Esteban

    CC gave up a run? UNACCEPTABLE!1!

    • Xstar7

      TRADE HIM FOR EDWIN JACKSON!!!!!!

      • Esteban

        Real aces wouldn’t give up any runs to the Mariners. DUH.

        • Xstar7

          Edwin would throw a perfect game against the Mariners and throw only 27 pitches.

          • Esteban

            Pshhh. 27 pitch perfect games are for 5th starters.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      IETC

  • FIPster Doofus

    Joakim Soria really sucks this year. Weird.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Bartolo-mania tomorrow night!

    • Cy Pettitte

      anything less than complete domination will be unacceptable tomorrow

      • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

        Complete domination = 9.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 40 K

        Anything less is UNACCEPTABLE

        • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

          And a WHIP of -7.82

          • Esteban

            Needs to get the save too, or it’s UNACCEPTABLE.

  • Esteban

    MORE RISP FAIL. UNACCEPTABLE

  • Xstar7

    I’m not gonna lie. That rendition of God Bless America was awful.

  • Esteban

    My college is going for back to back lacrosse national championships. Pretty cool considering we had never won a championship in anything before last year, even if it’s only D-III.

  • baravelli

    That guy who sang God Bless America at Safeco had, as we say in the music business, vibrato you could drive a truck through.

  • Esteban

    Yikes what a terrible tag by Bryan Pena. Probably didn’t want to get Posey’d.

  • Cy Pettitte

    wtf was Peña doing for KC? that was so bad.

  • Xstar7

    Goose Gossage’s mustache > Eric Wedge’s mustache

    • Esteban

      Wedge looks like a clown.

  • Cuso

    Completely off the subject: Just saw a cool Sobe commercial with Jered Weaver.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      What’s a commercial?

    • icebird753

      Why did you post that here instead of the Off-Topic thread??????? You should be executed for such indecency to this wonderful site

  • jennifer

    ichiro looks like a cat.

  • Esteban

    Not gonna be fun for whatever manager has to move Ichiro down in the lineup.

  • Xstar7

    Ichiro looks so bad right now. By the way, Ken Singleton just had the quote of the day: “1932 world series. The Yankees swept the Cubs in four.” Is there any other way to sweep?

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      Yes. 5 in a row is a sweep in a best of nine series.

      • Xstar7

        There haven’t been any best of 9 world series since the 1920′s.

    • Esteban

      Word Series used to be best of 9 and the Division series used to be best of 5. That’s my excuse.

      • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

        Thanks for backing me up.

      • Xstar7

        Again, there haven’t been any best of 9 world series since the 1920′s. And there was no division series in 1932. You guys should know better.

        • Esteban

          I know, but aren’t you making a big deal out of nothing? There HAVE been playoff series that weren’t best of 7. And wait, I got confused with basketball. Division series are still best of 5 in baseball, so it’s not a completely ridiculous thing for Singleton to say swept in 4 games.

          • Xstar7

            I’m not trying to make a big deal out of it. I’m just sayin’.

            • Esteban

              whatever bro. UNACCEPTABLE!1!

  • Rey22

    Wow, Chris Ray is still around! Quite a fall from grace since his closing days in Baltimore.

  • Esteban

    Gutierrez is so good in the field. I wonder if he or Gardner coves more ground.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      Gutierrez has more ground to cover in Safeco, but I’ll take Gardner.

  • Ben from Stanford

    Hey V, I posted those numbers in response to your post above, in case you didn’t see it. Did you get something different?

    • V

      I responded up above ;-)

      • Ben from Stanford

        Cool, same here.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Way to go Jeter. Up by 6 in the top of the 8th with nobody on…so unclutch.

  • Esteban

    Not scoring off Chris Ray: Unacceptable. Or that’s what people would say if this were a close game.

  • Mojo

    Still they can’t hit the bullpen?

  • Xstar7

    I know it’s the Mariners, but that was still a terrific start by CC. That’s why he’s our ace.

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      Not only was it a terrific start, but it was also a terrific start.

      • Esteban

        Your terrific comment was terrific.

  • Dufus McShmoofus

    What about converting Mariano Rivera to a starting pitcher? I looked at his ERA and it’s been super low for more than a decade now. He’d be at least Roy Halladay for 6 or innings. And just shift Joba to closer, where he was always supposed to end up. It would solve so many problems for us

    • Esteban

      Love the idea. The Yankees are idiots if they don’t do it.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Only a double? Unacceptable.

  • FIPster Doofus

    Grandy is amazing.

  • Esteban

    Granderson up to .278/.353/.619. Holy crap this guy’s good.

    • Esteban

      Nevermind, he’s at .282/.356/.626. Come’on 1.000 OPS!

      • FIPster Doofus

        Yeah, but the Yankees would be better off with AJax and Coke.

        • Pat D

          And IPK.

          Duh!

  • Pat D

    These stupid losers should have known that they’d only need 2-3 runs today and have used the rest the last two nights.

    Worthless overpaid underachievers.

  • Esteban

    They salvaged it. Could have one or both the other games, but oh well. At least today was satisfying.

  • Xstar7

    CRISIS AVERTED

    • special kid

      cause of 1 game? ever heard of small samples?