Open Thread: Melky’s on his way


(AP Photo/Orlin Wagner)

It’s amazing how much better an off day feels after the Yankees win, especially a win like yesterday’s. We’re waiting for the Royals to come to town tomorrow, which will be the first time Melky Cabrera will play in the Bronx as a visiting player. Melky was a fan favorite and occasionally productive, and although I wasn’t exactly his biggest fan, I will certainly give him a round of applause*. If you’re part of a World Series Yankees team, you’re cool with me. Rock on, Melky.

Anyway, here is tonight’s open thread. You can watch the Twins predictably lose to the Red Sox on ESPN (Blackburn vs. Beckett) or the Mets and Rockies on SNY a little later on (Capuano vs. Chacin). There’s also NHL and NBA playoff action going on as well, I’m sure of it. Talk about whatever your heart desire, so have at it.

Note: A reader by the name of Bethany emailed to let us know that her she** and her boyfriend signed up for the Runyon 5K at Yankee Stadium this summer, and they’ve placed a little wager on the results of their pledges. She’s a Yankees fan and he’s a Mets fan, and if she wins he has to run in a Yankees hat, if he wins, she has to run in a Mets hat. Simple enough. Anyway, you can help her out and pledge here.

* Assuming I was actually going to the game, of course.

** Grammar nazi’d. Refund check’s in the mail.

Categories : Open Thread


  1. the tenth inning stretch says:

    Looks like the Melkman’s got a cat’s tail hanging out of his helmet.

  2. squishy jello person says:

    I’m headed to the game tomorrow, so I will give him applause for you.

  3. Matt says:

    Lets go Twins!!!

  4. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    I only give money to single women. Man law.

  5. Teh Comp Pick says:

    I’d like to take a minute to rant about how bad espn radio is now after listening to it for about 15 earlier today. The fact that Robin Lundberg has a radio show amazes me, not only does he sound like a ninth grader but his knowledge of sports sounds like it’s not even on that level. Giving this guy a show is like saying were not going to target the adult demographic were just going after kids…. Then Mike Lupica comes on and opens with a segment on Jeter which was probably the dumbest of the many Jeter segments I’ve heard so far this season. Don LaGreca cited OPS and Lupica was like “don’t get started with the OPS” basically saying stop it now! that’s way over my head! I don’t need sports radio hosts who when on baseball talk FIP or WAR but it isn’t much to ask for a reasonably intelligent dude who if he or sher gets paid to talk about sports, can at least show up and do so like an adult.

    • Matt says:

      and no mention of how horrible Michael Kay is? but i totally agree with your other comments.

      • I don’t think Kay is completely horrible on the radio show, but he falls victim to the same thing he does when he calls games; he gets wrapped up in himself and his own thoughts and is completely unwilling to be swayed.

        • Matt says:

          and that’s what i can’t stand. Also I hate how high and mighty he seems to some callers.

        • The entire conversation that Kay, LaGreca, and the callers had this evening drive time about Jose Reyes and whether he was more lazy, disinterested, or just not baseball-smart was nothing but a gigantic clusterfuck of racism.

          And to top it off, they added a lovely cherry on top of a bunch of non-Latinos arguing about what was the proper way to pronounce Spanish-language names.

          :: facepalm ::

          • The209 says:

            “a bunch of non-Latinos arguing about what was the proper way to pronounce Spanish-language names.”

            seriously, have you ever seen bunch of Latinos arguing about the proper way to prounce English-language names?

            • I’m not sure where you’re going with this.

              • TheLastCLown says:

                I believe he was saying that, as it’s absurd for non-native speakers of a given language to discuss how to ‘properly’ pronounce native language names, it would take a certain degree of arrogance to do so, such arrogance as has not been perceived by The209 re: Latinos.

                P.S…I’m as against the ‘ism’s of hate as you are, but you really do seem to jump quickly toward preemptive squishing of anything that could develop into an ‘ism’y blob.

          • CMP says:

            There is clearly something missing in Reyes game as the total package has always been less than the sum of the parts so how would you explain it without sounding “racist?”

            • Kiko Jones says:

              Once the knee-jerk, go-to description of a player as “lazy” rears its head–which is seemingly trademarked for players of color, since rarely, if ever, is a Caucasian player labeled as such–then, game on.

    • aRX says:

      Honestly, I can’t stand sports radio at all. Once you know even a tiny bit about sports, to say nothing of advanced statistics, listening to them just makes you shake your head with disgust at almost every word.

  6. aRX says:

    Actual trade in one of my leagues:




    um…guess he really desperate for offensive help o.0

  7. BigTimeBartolo says:

    So I’ve been playing MLB 2k10 lately and I’m doing career mode. This is the season my Center fielder just had (for the yankees of course)

    606/626/1406 with 132 HR, 62 doubles, 45 triples, 310 RBI, 241 SB, 10 CS, 25 K’s for the season

    Not ridiculous or anything…

  8. Kiersten says:

    If you’re part of a World Series Yankees team, you’re cool with me. Rock on, Melky.

    Good to know there’s a place in your heart for Cody Ransom.

  9. Melky looks good in Royal blue (or, Royal powder blue, perhaps).

    I love those unis.

  10. Remember all the bitching and moaning and teeth gnashing and caterwauling about how unacceptable it was to get shut down by that uber-bust of a scrub of a crapwad of dikfore of a horrible pitcher Philip Humber, who (ignominy of ignominies!) was actually (gasp!) once cut by the Minnesota Twins?

    Yeah… well, apparently Philip Humber isn’t all that horrible of a starting pitcher. Who knew?

    Humber’s six starts this year (v. TB, v. LAAANAAAA, @ TB, @ NYY, v. BAL, @ SEA)
    37.1 IP (6.22 IP/S), 2.65 ERA, 25/10 K/BB, .170/.238/.289 against

    SSS, obviously, but Humber has talent (and Don Cooper looks like a great pitching coach, as evidenced by his improvements with Edwin Jackson).

    • Steve H says:

      I would love for Humber to continue to shine, Peavy to come back healthy and have the Sox put Floyd or Danks on the market.

      • bexarama says:

        Daaaaanks. I waaaaant.

        • JobaWockeeZ says:

          He’d be expensive. Wasn’t he about get extended or something? Floyd is *rumored* to be the odd man out and will be less expensive if true.

          Can’t go wrong on both though. Though Floyd does seem like a Pettitte v2 with similar K and BB rates but a better GB rate.

          • Yeah, Danks is probably not going to be on the market at all. Floyd is only available for a king’s ransom; Danks would cost two kings, I guess.

            I love Danks and Floyd, but I’m only really expecting Jackson or (possibly) Buerhle to be up for sale. And even Buerhle might be pushing it; the Sox probably want both him and Konerko to retire in white and black.

            • JobaWockeeZ says:

              You think so? I expect Kenny to make Floyd expendable because of his “mediocre” ERA and his mediocre win total.

              • Jackson’s still at the front of the line. Floyd still has another year under contract and an affordable option after that.

                They’ll listen on Floyd, but Kenny is in no rush to move him.

                It’s Jackson.

                • JobaWockeeZ says:

                  Good points but this is assuming that Williams is logical.

                  His statements on the Swisher trade recently doesn’t give him the benefit of the doubt here. For me anyways.

                  • Fair enough, but moving Floyd wouldn’t even really fit in with the Swisher logic.

                    Swisher was moved by Kenny because A.) Ozzie hated Swish and B.) Swish had a horrible year while having a ton of money left on his contract.

                    Kenny wrongly concluded that Swish had bottomed out into being a subpar player and thus tried to unload Swish’s contract as soon as possible.

                    It was an error in judgment about a player’s true talent level, but it made sense in terms of getting something of value for a perceived contractual albatross (and a clubhouse malcontent thanks to Guillen’s disapproval of Swish).

          • bexarama says:

            Oh I just meant in purely hypothetical best-case scenario world (though I guess there we’d have a rotation that was Felix/Halladay/CC/JJ/whoever.). Floyd is very underrated and would probably cost a lot less, you’re right.

    • bexarama says:

      Humber’s been really good. Edwin Jackson hasn’t been doing so hot of late.

  11. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Grow some balls Bosh. Please.

  12. Rob Thomsen's Chili Farts says:

    I don’t understand the wager by the runners. How will the loser run in the designated cap if they didn’t run the race yet? Is their last name McFly?

  13. mbonzo says:

    My “Your trade proposal sucks” for tonight.

    Yankees Receive:
    OF Andre Ethier
    SP Hiroki Kuroda

    Dodgers Receive:
    OF Brett Gardner
    SP Andrew Brackman
    Salary relief for Andruw Jones’ $3.2m owed through 2014

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Pretty much. It’s Gardner straight up for Ethier and Kuroda straight up for Brackman…

        No one is gonna value Gardner on par with Ethier and Brackman is high ceiling high bust.

        Yes there’s a solid amount of salary relief but no the Dodgers still don’t do it.

        • mbonzo says:

          It’ll be over $40m in salary relief.

          • JobaWockeeZ says:

            Ah. There’s a chance if the MLB is running things but still then that’ll piss off Dodgers fans.

          • For Andre Ethier, it would need to be like $80M in salary relief. Maybe more.

            The Dodgers have a money problem, but they’re not giving away Ethier to fix that money problem.

            • mbonzo says:

              I think you’re overestimating Ethier’s value. He’s a contact hitter with above average power, but he’s a poor fielder with no speed. His WAR has been 2.2, 1.7, 3.4, 2.7, 2.1.

              • But with Loney’s regression, Ethier and Kemp are the only two position player building blocks LA has. He’s not an MVP candidate, but he’s a player they need a lot.

                Moving Ethier isn’t the way to fix the Dodgers.

                And I think you’re overestimating the Dodger money problems, as well. McCourt’s obviously broke and can’t afford this year’s 120M payroll, but the league is stepping in to keep LA afloat this year while they line up a new buyer.

                After this year, when Kuroda, Furcal, Garland, Carroll, and Barajas all walk and guys like Loney get non-tendered, the Dodgers committed payroll is only in the 45M range. There’s plenty of room to reup all the arb guys, extend Ethier, resign Broxton, and let the new owners have a manageable 70-80M payroll with a few key FA imports.

                • mbonzo says:

                  Dodgers will end up with around $46m coming off the books next year, but currently have a $120m payroll. That leaves them at $74m and they need to add a starting 3B, SS, C, a Closer, SP, and most of their bullpen outside of Kuo and Guerrier. They also need to give promotions to Kemp, Ethier, and Kershaw. They’ve got Gordon for SS, and it shouldn’t be a problem to to find bullpen and a SP in their farm. That still leaves them with needs at C, 3B, and Closer and a mid $80m payroll after arbitration.

                  Perhaps Brackman wouldn’t be the best piece for the Dodgers, but their farm has 2 top OF prospects in Sands and Robinson who could replace Ethier or Kemp if they’re traded. Gardner, Romine and Laird would be better fits in LA, and end up lower their payroll around $10m.

              • LA’s future obligations sheet:


                It’s not that bad. They’ll probably try to move Kuroda like you said (but he’s good enough that he doesn’t need to be bundled in with Ethier, you can move Kuroda straight up) and see if anyone wants any of the expiring contracts for a little more relief, but they’re not going to have to have a firesale and trade valuable pieces to unload albatrosses.

                They don’t really have many albatrosses. If not for the McCourt divorce, they’d be a financially healthy franchise.

                • mbonzo says:

                  To summarize what I said on top. Cots says they’re only $46m obligated, but it doesn’t take into account Kemp, Ethier, Kershaw plus the promotions they’ll receive, or the options they’ll most likely accept. Thats gonna be well over $30m. Their farm has a SS to replace Furcal, is deep enough in pitching to replace Kuroda and the bullpen, and is fairly deep in the OF, but it can’t replace 3B, C, or a closer. They could very well call up Robinson to replace Kemp or Ethier to lower that payroll and get young 3B or C’s back.

                  • That’s still only 80-90M.

                    Frank McCourt probably can’t afford that, but Frank McCourt probably won’t be owning the Dodgers by next year.

                    Selig’s not taking over the team and starting a firesale. Selig will move overpriced expiring contracts, but Kemp/Ethier/Billingsley/Kershaw aren’t going anywhere, they’re the core that the new owner will inherit.

                    • mbonzo says:

                      I agree that Kershaw is untouchable, but for a team that is so deep in pitching and OFers needs to replace a lot of their guys, they need to make a move. Lets forget Brackman and say we’re trading Romine and Laird. The Dodgers end up filling C and 3B, and getting a cheap above average OFer back for half a year of Kuroda and 1 and a half years of Ethier. At the same time they substantially lower payroll.

                      As for Kuroda for Gardner/Brackman/Relief, there is no way that happens. 4 months of a pitcher is nowhere near that, even if he ends up being a type A free agent.

        • Brooklyn Ed says:

          still waiting on Rasmus for Gardner.

    • Brooklyn Ed says:

      I counter for all of Soriano’s salary. keep brackman & gardner.

  14. JobaWockeeZ says:

    So old George over here is an FBI agent. Kinda sorta not really.;seid=auto

  15. mbonzo says:

    Betances: 5.0 IP, 1 H, 4 BB, 7 SO

    WTF IS WITH THE WALKS. Other than that, holy shit he’s been incredible.

    • mbonzo says:

      Banuelos has received a lot of hype after this ST, and I think we can expect him on the top 20 overall lists next year. That said, this is a joke.

      Harper, Lawrie, Rizzo, Harvey and I’m sorry to say it, but Banuelos are up there because of hype and hot starts. Teheran shouldn’t be that high either, but he definitely deserves to be in the top 10.

    • Xstar7 says:

      When your organization has TWO of the guys in the top 10, I wouldn’t be complaining.

    • JohnnyC says:

      Hey, remember, it’s Heymann.

  16. JobaWockeeZ says:


  17. forensic says:

    I was never a big fan of Melky. The thing that really put me over the top was his constant faking of throwing the ball into the stands for the fans on the road. They paid good money to go to the game too, no matter what team they’re rooting for, so either give them the ball or do nothing. Don’t be a schmuck about it.

  18. Alfredo says:

    how about talk about our yankees. can we please get a winning streak going so we can take some kind of momentum when the red soxs are in town, and if we have a chance to put them away we have to do it we will not get too many of these chances. OHHH AND GO HEAT!!!!!!!!!

    • Xstar7 says:

      “Anyway, here is tonight’s open thread. You can watch the Twins predictably lose to the Red Sox on ESPN” -Mike Axisa

    • Big Apple says:

      not surprising…did you see that twins roster? reminds me of Major League….scene from the beginning when the asian groundskeepers are subtitled..”who the fuck are these guys??”

  19. Dr. O says:

    YES should run ads featuring slow motion shots of Melky and quotes from him with that “I’m coming home” song in the background. Since that has officially become the most overused thing in sports this year. I swear I’ve seen like 30 different teams in all sports use it.

  20. Plank says:

    Introducing your new 5th OF…Milton Bradley!!!

  21. Across the pond says:

    Keith Law with the RAB reference on the baseball today podcast yesterday. Big time now!

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