Jun
03

ESPN on the Yankees’ draft philosophy

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Jason Churchill took a look at each club’s draft philosophy yesterday (AL, NL), though you need an Insider subscription to read the whole thing. “Aside from last year, when prep shortstop Cito Culver and outfielder Angelo Gumbs were the club’s first two picks, the Yankees have generally gone the route of the college player under [Damon] Oppenheimer,” wrote Churchill. “Even with their first pick coming way down at No. 51, they could get a shot at a top-20 player who falls due to signability/perceived bonus demands. A college pitcher that could move fairly quickly could be the answer, and right down the alley for Oppenheimer. Perhaps left-hander Andrew Chafin from Kent State or Coastal Carolina right-hander Anthony Meo is a fit.”

I wrote about Chafin here, and Meo is a big arm strength guy who is likely to wind up in the bullpen if he doesn’t figure out some consistent secondary pitches. Those two are just speculation though. Anyway, Oppenheimer loves his college pitchers just like he loves high school position players, and there’s no reason to expect them to go a different route this year. The lone high school pitcher the Yankees have drafted high under Oppenheimer is Gerrit Cole, who was a pretty special case. The highest drafted college hitters were third rounders Brett Gardner (2005), David Adams (2008), and Rob Segedin (2010).

Categories : Asides, Draft
  • S

    Hughes was a hs school arm

    • S

      drafted in the first round or was that before oppenheimer?

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        First round, but that was the year before Oppenheimer took over. His first rounders are Henry (2005), IPK (2006), Brackman (2007), Cole (2008), Heathcott (2009), and Culver (2010).

  • pat

    Before Cito and Gumbs it was Slade and JR, before that it was Cole. It’s not until you go back to 2007 that they took a college player in the first.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      And that’s probably only because that college player was a top-5 talent who only fell due to the injury and big bonus demand double-whammy.

      Brackman was a great value pick that fell into Oppenheimer’s lap.

      • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

        it may have been a value pick but a pick from which i fear we may get no value…

    • Ted Nelson

      The two seasons before that he took 3 college arms… Could be a shift in philosophy, but could also be a function of small sample and who was available.

  • Big Juan

    At the end of the bit about the Yankees, he says:

    The Yankees, however, could see the value in the upside of a prep player, as many of their college endeavors haven’t panned out of late, including Joba Chamberlain.

    Seems a bit narrow-minded to say that Joba hasn’t panned out. Yes, most of us saw him as an ace. But the Yankees had other plans and he’s become an integral part of one of, if not the best, bullpens in baseball. I see that as panning out on at least some level.

    • Clay Bellinger

      It’s not like he’s a disaster, but the Yanks drafted him to be a SP so in that regard things didn’t go according to plans.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        And whether he’s not an SP because he just didn’t work out or because the Yankees didn’t give him enough opportunity to work out is still a subject of debate.

        • Clay Bellinger

          Very true.

    • pat

      Typical passive aggressive shot taken by ESPN.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Indeed. Other teams who have many college endeavors that haven’t panned out as of late:

        All of them

        [end of list]

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I spoke to him about it yesterday, he basically meant that Joba hasn’t turned into what the Yankees thought he would. Which is true, though “didn’t pan out” probably isn’t the best way to put it.

      • Ted Nelson

        The problem I see with that, though, is that every team drafts just about every first rounder with high expectations/hopes. The vast majority (outside the top 15, top 20, something like that… whether by draft order or bonus) will not live up to that hope. Just about no draft picks turn into what the team thought they would/could. To get a late inning reliever out of a #41 pick at a $1.1 mill bonus seems like a very good return to me by any standard. Getting a trade chip for the Granderson deal in IPK was a good return.

        Brackman is really the guy I would point to. Biggest investment and least results to date… of course the story isn’t over yet.

    • Ted Nelson

      Totally agree. To take a guy #41, give him a $1.1 mill signing bonus, and have him contribute in MLB for several years… that’s a good return by any standard.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Perfect: the enemy of the good.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        good return but not what we expected

  • Gonzo

    I am definitely interested in what happens.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      You’ll pay for the whole seat, BUT YOU’LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE!!!!!

      • Mister Delaware

        I don’t know if this is a common quote or not, but I laughed.

  • DI

    Williams Jerez is still most likely imo unless a high priced guy falls.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Which is something I really want to happen so the Yankees don’t msis out on this stacked draft.

      Thanks Levine. You suck.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Williams Jerez freaks me out, because he has a first name for a last name and a last name for a first name.

    • pat

      I doubt it. Frankie P says he’s not seen as a first round talent and is only linked to the Yanks because of the NYC connection.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        I think Culver tells us they don’t care about other people’s rankings. Speaking of this first round pick when the heck is he gonna play?

        • pat

          I think he’s the opening day SS for Staten Island.

          • pat

            And unlike everyone who panned Cito, Piliere has actually seen Jerez play this year. Last year most scouting services didn’t even go see him and were basing everything off his junior year videos and whatnot.

  • Reggie C.

    College arms who don’t know where the ball is going aren’t ideal picks at 51 but if there aren’t any big upside HS hitters in the mix …

    I have no expectations. Again, maybe we luck out and one of the Tylers are there at 51.

    • pat

      I’m with you. Give me a power hitting HS bat and I’ll be happy.