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Fan Confidence Poll: June 20th, 2011

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Record Last Week: 5-2 (42 RS, 21 RA)
Season Record: 41-29 (372 RS, 276 RA, 45-25 pythag. record), one back in loss column
Opponents This Week: @ Reds (three games, Mon. to Weds.), Thurs. OFF, vs. Rockies (three games, Fri. to Sun.)

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Please take a second to answer the poll below and give us an idea of how confident you are in the team. You can view the Fan Confidence Graph anytime via the nav bar above, or by clicking here. Thanks in advance for voting.

Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    I voted an 8 as usual.

  • Mike

    7. won’t change until we beat the Sox .

    • CP

      The Yankees don’t play the Red Sox again until August. You won’t change your opinion no matter what happens over the next 7 weeks or so?

    • pat

      We couldn’t beat them in 09 either.

      • MannyGeee

        didnt need to. here’s to hoping they cant figure out the AL Central in October (11-10 against so far).

  • Cris Pengiuci

    Still an 8. It’ll be interesting to see how the team reacts when Jeter is reactivated. Hoping that the time off reinvigorates him and he produces above what he’s done so far this season, or at least realizes that the team is better off if he’s not hitting leadoff. Longer term, I think the return of Hughes will be a huge spark and I theink they’ll pull off a trade or 2 to sure up the starting pitching and bull pen. Going forward, they’re still the class of baseball, with strong talent in the minors and the financial strength to sign the players they need. Not too concerned about Cashman returning, although I would like for him to remain.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoeRo23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

    I dropped from my usual 8 down to a 7 a few weeks ago, and I’m still there. I’m close to pushing it back up to an 8 though. Swisher and Gardner (and others) starting to hit has been pretty reassuring, but at the same time the starting rotation really is a problem-area. If Hughes can come back like the old Hughes and Colon can come back like the new Colon that’ll probably push me back up to an 8, but that’s still very much up in the air.

    • T.n.T

      Gardner currently has the 3rd highest WAR on the tesm, highest UZR in baseball and highest OBP on the team. Gotta love him. If Colon/Hughes come back healthy I like our rotation for the playoffs. Those are big ifs, as is burnett keeping up his recent run.

    • Bob Stone

      I feel exactly the same except that your 7 is my 8 and your 8 is my nine.

      I am at eight for two weeks now and for only the third time since the inception of this poll. Usually I’m at nine except when the Yanks win the Series. Then I finally vote 10.

  • David, Jr.

    Defined as this year, I am at 8.5, up from 8 last time. Plenty of positives: Hughes comeback looking decent, Colon injury apparently not serious, Gardner has arrived as a core player, Nunez, while rough around the edges, is proving that he can play, Swisher turning it around, bullpen holding together.

    • David, Jr.

      More positives: ARod’s fielding. Huge numbers by both Total Zone and UZR, which has him as the best fielding third baseman in MLB. Resources both in $ and excess prospects to make additions. Martin’s defense, which is the best that we have seen in a long time here.

      I am not higher than 8.5 for only two reasons. First, they are stuck with Jeter. Second, if you look at a playoff series you can’t be that confident in starting pitching match ups beyond CC unless Colon keeps the same level going all the way through. That is possible, but not probable.

  • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Matt Imbrogno

    Eight.

    Rotation worries offset the offensive awesomeness that is this lineup.

  • steve s

    No complaints after last week. Love how the Red Sox keep winning, are playing like projected in pre-season but can’t shake Yanks (and now the injuries are starting to pile up on them). All adds up to an 8.

  • T.n.T

    Voted a 7 for 2 reasons.
    This is a good reds team, I could see us losing 2/3 depending on Gordon’s performance. That said this should be as bad as it gets. Colon/Hughes are on the horizon so we just need to weather the storm for a few weeks because our #2s get back.
    I love the current lineup, having Jeter in there is just going to hurt us. I really hope after he hits 3k Girardi bumps him down to 8th or 9th. That play last night Nunez made was fantastic, having a good defensive SS is a nice change.

    • Kosmo

      The Reds are a very average team.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Correction: The Reds have an average pitching staff (22nd best 4.09 team ERA). They have an elite offense (third-best 349 runs scored, behind only the Red Sox and Yankees), however.

        And that mediocre ERA has improved dramatically in June; the Reds’ ERA this month is down to 3.16, 6th best in baseball.

        “This is a good reds team” is an accurate statement.

        • Kosmo

          Like I said the Reds are a very average team.1 month doesn´t a season make.Still a near .500 team.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            They have an elite offense (third-best 349 runs scored, behind only the Red Sox and Yankees), however.

            Stop ignoring that.

  • CP

    Two interesting things I noticed about the team while poking through stats:

    1. The Yankees are second in the AL in ERA+ at 116 (Oakland is first at 121 and Seattle third at 110).

    2. The Yankees lead the AL in road ERA at 3.15.

    I know the pitching staff looked like a question mark heading into the season, but they’ve certainly held up their end so far.

  • Hester Prynne

    Anything less than a 9 is insanity. Lead the league in HRs and walks. The pitching has exceeded expectations. Bartolo’s coming back. Hughes is coming back. Bullpen is solidified with Wade and Noesi. The only way you can justify a # lower than 9 is to argue that the team will suffer a blow to the top of the lineup when Jeter returns.

    • whozat

      It’s not a rating for the next 30 games. It’s a rating for the team’s overall outlook.

      The left side of the infield is past their prime and both are signed for many more years. Said old (and currently injured) SS is now barely league average. The team has demonstrated 0 ability to develop and establish young starting pitching. Ownership has, from time to time, overridden the baseball people to throw lots of money at “big names” that don’t help the team win and/or become predictably hurt.

      That said, their outfield, 1B, 2B and C are all in their prime and at worst above average players on both sides of the ball. CC is a hoss, and they’ve shown the ability to patch a bullpen from within on the fly. There are also a host of contributors and several potential regulars in AA/AAA.

      It’s not insane to vote lower than a 9 based on these factors.

      • Hester Prynne

        It’s not confidence for 20 years down the road, it’s confidence for this season because with the Yankees resources it’s ridiculous to think they won’t be in the hunt for years to come. This season only we must remain strong at 9.

        • http://www.twitter.com/JoeRo23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

          “Given the team’s current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees’ overall future?”

          • http://www.twitter.com/JoeRo23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

            Forget it… You’re not saying “the poll is about this year and not the overall future,” you’re saying you’re not concerned with the overall future because the Yanks have a lot of money so the poll, for you, is about the immediate future because you’re always a 9-10 on the less-immediate future.

            I don’t really care to respond to that, but I will respond to your original comment about it being insane for anyone to vote lower than 9… The whole point of a poll like this is to take the varied opinions of a large group of people and see where the fanbase sits, on average. So throw your number in there, see how it affects the average, and let other people vote their opinions. Every single thread beneath a poll has someone saying ‘I can’t believe people would vote x or y,’ and it’s pointless. Different people have different judging criteria and evaluate different factors differently, that’s the whole point.

            • Ted Nelson

              ” Different people have different judging criteria and evaluate different factors differently, that’s the whole point.”

              Yeah, but I think in the end it makes the average fairly useless.

              • Cris Pengiuci

                Looking at the graph, week after week, I gotta disagree with you. While we know people have different opinions as to what period of time they weigh more heavily, there’s generally a fairly consistent bell curve that we end up with. I think that shows where the fans rate the team overall, both for this season and the future. At least that’s the way I choose to interpret the results, lacking any better data.

      • CP

        I’m not completely sold on Martin. He’s been great defensively, but in his last 148 PA (dating back to April 24) he’s hitting .194/.324/.290/.615. His full season numbers look good because he was really hot for the first few weeks (61 PA) of the season.

      • Ted Nelson

        Just depends on your rating scale. I tend to agree with Hester Prynne that on a linear scale from 1 to 10 anything lower than 9 for the Yankees is pretty pessimistic.

        I think your view-point is overly pessimistic. Your “negatives” argument basically revolves around 2 examples. One average starter in Jeter (A-Rod is old and still leads all 3B in fWAR by a full fWAR… 3.4 and #2 is 2.4… he’s got a long, long decline till he resembles average… and even Jeter has a back-up who is no worse than him which is nice to have). One signing where Cashman was overruled in Soriano. Taking the whole universe of Yankees’ players, acquisitions, decisions, employees… and weighting 2 examples so much more heavily than the rest seems overly pessimistic. Then there’s the “can’t develop pitching” argument, which I’m not even going to dignify with a response.

        • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

          even Jeter has a back-up who is no worse than him

          I agree people tend to ac-cen-tu-ate the negative, but that’s not really anything great these days.

        • Jimmy McNulty

          Since when the hell is a seven average? If seven is average and nine and up is elite there’s little room for merely good. I tend to say that a five is average.

    • Jimmy McNulty

      Bartolo’s coming back. Hughes is coming back. Bullpen is solidified with Wade and Noesi.

      Two question marks, and I never thought I’d hear “The bullpen is solidified with Wade.”

  • Rob NY

    Brett Gardner has the grittiness of David Eckstein and the skill of carl crawford. The doubles are awesome and the team continues to look playoff caliber. ‘Good solid, seven-and-a-half.’ So I rounded up to 8.

  • http://kierstenschmidt.com Kiersten

    Bumped up to a 9. Guess a good week will do that. Lots of question marks as always, but this team as currently constructed will be in the playoffs. And if Hughes comes back throwing 92-93 like he did yesterday, and if AJ can continue to be decent, I see no reason why this team can’t go deep into the playoffs. Just gotta beat the Red Sox.

  • Jorge

    7, but I always tend to think more long-term than most. I’m still concerned as to how well this team will plug in both the continued rotation holes and holes created by aging players in a manner than both helps to develop those in the minor leagues and creates a team that can contend year-in, year-out. It doesn’t seem as easy as usual the closer we get to the end of the core that’s held this team up since the mid-90’s.

    This would probably be an 8 if we were just thinking from here until the end of the season. The team will be fine, and has a good a chance as any team of winning it all, holes and all.

    • Ted Nelson

      “I’m still concerned as to how well this team will plug in both the continued rotation holes and holes created by aging players in a manner than both helps to develop those in the minor leagues and creates a team that can contend year-in, year-out.”

      What indication do you have that they won’t do this? I can point to a whole lot of examples of them doing exactly this in the past several years.

      • Jorge

        I bought a Magic 8 Ball on EBay. It keeps telling me to have Manny Banuelos avoid potholes. Strangely, it also tells me Bichette Jr. will be the first .400 hitter since Ted Williams.

        • The Big City of Dreams

          “Strangely, it also tells me Bichette Jr. will be the first .400 hitter since Ted Williams.”

          So it’s not the worst pick ever

  • Hester Prynne

    And this business about not beating the Red Sox is nonsense. 09 should have taught you that. All that matters is getting to the ALCS then it’s a whole new ballgame. The Bulls beat the Heat 3 times in the regular season and come playoff time that meant nothing. It’s all about setting yourself up to get to the playoffs and then to win the short series.

  • Reggie C.

    7.

    Aside from Betances, the performance of certain pitching prospects has been unimpressive. I’m all for playing Montero everyday, but I wonder if the mixed results at the plate this year aren’t a byproduct of his interest at AAA play.

    Hughes is still a month away from ML action, but at least he’s got a foreseeable return date. Colon should be back sooner, and i’ll keep my fingers crossed that his rejuvenated mix of location and power keeps going.

    The Yanks hopefully take advantage against the barely .500 Reds and Rox. I’m confident the offense will go to town in some of these NL ballparks. Granderson, Teixeira, and Arod look positively fearsome right now.

    • Ted Nelson

      “Different people have different judging criteria and evaluate different factors differently, that’s the whole point.”

      That’s still a Jesus problem, though, not a Yankees’ FO problem. What’s to say he applies himself anymore if he gets a $20 mill per extension someday in the big leagues than he is in AAA when he has every incentive in the world to do well and make MLB? You just do the best you can and don’t try to control things you can’t control. “I’m bored so I’m hitting like crap against inferior competition” doesn’t cut it for me. No excuses. If his OPS was 1.100 and he’s saying he’s bored… ok, I can see that.

      • David, Jr.

        I believe that for some reason, people spend too much psychoanalyzing Montero. Bored with AAA? Attitude? Applying himself? I see something different, which is that he is a young guy with a fabulous minor league hitting record, who has merely gotten off to a slow start this year. The same thing happened last year.

        • David, Jr.

          … too much time ….

  • Pat D

    Of course WallyMatt has to write this article.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=6679744

    I’m sure he’s about a 3 on the confidence poll.

    • jsbrendog

      wallace “oaktag” matthews

    • The Big City of Dreams

      Wally doesn’t even vote in the poll that’s how low his confidence is.

  • jsbrendog

    so i guess brackman is going to be bp help this yr after his stint in the pen in aaa? maybe next yr he will get another chance to start, although, i guess at 25 going on 26 he is what he is so get what you can out of him. id like to see him come up and be successful, even in a bp role. the bp is def the spot of biggest weakness when considering my vote.

    i went 8 when factoring in that despite the injuries they have been winning and winning and the high ceilings of some prospect sin the minors.

  • MannyGeee

    alright kids. back up to an 8 this week. three VERY SOLID series with a stockpile of injuries (to key players no less) tells me that:

    – this team is built better than we may have thought it was

    – our “C team” is AT WORST better than team average, so when all cylinders are firing, its gonna be a party. (here’s to hoping that all cylinders are firing on Sept 15th and fire straight through to November)

    – enough bats to sustain temporary shitty pitching (except for when good AJ comes to town, in which case all the bats go to sleep)

    – our farm system/scrap heap practice is strong enough to hold us up for short bursts

    Still have concerns on the metric shit-ton of men left on base we are allowing and how long the ‘flash in the pan’ guys will be hot. But at this rate 3 solid starts from Brian Gordon might be enough to get us out of the jam until Hughes/Colon come back.

    and oh yeah, Jesus is coming… eventually… hopefully. so there’s that

  • Jimmy McNulty

    Still a five, average, middle of the road. The fact that they haven’t been able to beat the Sox still has me worried/annoyed, probably more annoyed than worried. The “overall future” will always be a bit cloudy because there’s way too many moving parts, but I think Cashman’s a pretty good GM, so I’m sure he’ll continue to do what’s best. My long term concerns are the team’s ability to competently develop and evaluate pitching, the A-Rod contract, and Jeter. Those are pretty big concerns, IMO. Obviously the Yankees are a cash machine and they’ll continue to have success in spite of their weaknesses

    I’m deathly afraid of the rotation, I know Colon and Hughes are coming back but that’s just another two question marks. I’m hoping for the best, but…my expectations are low.

    On the flip side, Curtis Granderson and Mark Teixeira can mash. I’m wondering what’s up with Teixeira and his BABIP. I know teams put an extreme shift on him, but for a player with such power and a hitter as good as he is he should have a higher BABIP than .220. Swisher seems to be coming around, and Gardner’s been awesome lately. Cano and his walk percentage…sigh, I was hoping last year’s improved patience was for real, but it looks like we’ll have to settle for a really good second basemen as opposed to an MVP caliber one. Eduardo Nuñez looks like a pretty damn good bench player, and the bench should get better when Chavez gets back there.

    Martin I’m a bit worried about, but he realistically isn’t a .230ish hitter, is he? Joe Girardi is a pretty smart dude (he has an engineering degree from Northwestern, he’s smarter than you are, shut up) and I wish he’d stop listening to his players and give Martin a mandatory day off for things like day game after a night game and every fifth game. His bat’s too valuable to let him get worn down with the rigors of catching 140 games a year. I know the alternative is Cervelli, but still Martin’s a pretty damn valuable bat when he’s going at his best. Call up Montero if you don’t want a better back up catcher than Cervelli, speaking of which Cashman’s decision to not call up Jesus is very well reasoned.

  • Angryankee

    7. -1 for Colon, -1 bull pen woes, -1 for inability to answer Red Socks bats…