Game 55: House of Horrors


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For the longest time, it seemed like Angels Stadium was a complete nightmare for the Yankees. They won just five of 24 games in Anaheim from 2005 through the 2009 All-Star break, which is absolutely dreadful. But for whatever reason, the Angels and their stadium are just like any other team now. I don’t think many of use dread playing the Halos anymore, likely because they’re clearly a team in decline  and (of course) the 2009 ALCS. Good times, good times. Here’s your starting nine…

Derek Jeter, SS
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Russell Martin, C
Nick Swisher, RF
Jorge Posada, DH
Brett Gardner, LF

Ivan Nova, SP

Dan Haren Update: RAB fave Sam Miller reports that Haren will have tomorrow’s scheduled start pushed back to Tuesday because of his back issue. I assume the Angels will just bump Ervin Santana up to Saturday and Joel Pineiro up to Sunday. Thursday’s off day allows them to pitch on normal rest, so that’s not an issue.

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  1. Robbie. says:

    Im going to tomorrows game and I was hoping to see a cc-haren matchup.

  2. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    It sounds silly to say missing Haren is a bad thing, but the way this team’s been hitting good pitching lately I don’t think it matters who they face.

  3. I’m strangely confident tonight. We beat up on Weaver, a flyball pitcher (5.88 ERA lifetime against the Yanks, I think.), the offense is hot. Hoping for a really good game tonight.

  4. Jimmy says:

    If we play every game like game 4 of the 2009 ALCS we will be ok here.

  5. Jerome S. says:

    lol @ the Red Sox even making an A’s game close.

    • Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

      Did you see that RBI “double” by Ortiz? That was a laugher.

  6. Cy Pettitte says:

    those Angels hats are atrocious

  7. A-Rod's Hip says:

    1st inning runs. Let’s do it again!

  8. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Please don’t tell me those are supposed to be “halos” on those caps.

  9. MikeD says:

    Hoping Jeter generates a 90-pitch AB to wear out Weaver.

  10. Mike Axisa says:

    Great at-bat by Jeter, regardless of outcome.

  11. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Let’s go Jetes. Getting on base here would be epic.

  12. Jimmy says:

    Loving this Jeter at bat

  13. A-Rod's Hip says:

    This is just an incredible at-bat by Jete to start the game.

  14. A-Rod's Hip says:

    This is getting comical! LOL. I love it!

  15. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    This AB is freakin’ awesome.

  16. Jerome S. says:

    Captain with the monster at-bat.

    That was awesome. More of that.

  17. Jimmy says:

    F’in kidding me! Jesus! – Weaver

  18. Reggie C. says:

    Derek Jeter. GRIT.

    Good job DJ.

  19. Mariano's Pimp Hand says:

    I remember when Jeter and Knoblauch used to wear out pitchers like this all the time.

  20. A-Rod's Hip says:

    Man that was just awesome stuff to see. Weaver’s reaction after the flyout was priceless. Gotta love sports.

  21. Jimmy says:

    A-Rod will hit 4 home runs this series

  22. A-Rod's Hip says:

    Fuentes doing this best to blow the Oakland lead in Fenway.

  23. MikeD says:

    That may have been Jeter’s best AB of the year, and I don’t mean that as a negative.

    Makes me wonder. What’s the record for most pitches in a single AB? Wonder if anyone has ever broke 20 pitches. Anyone know?

  24. A-Rod's Hip says:

    7-6 Boston, in case anyone’s keeping score. Bloop 2 run single for Crawford.

  25. Kostas says:

    When will managers learn. Bases loaded and the A’s turn to Brian Fuentes who promptly gives up a 2 run single to Carl Crawford.

    Fuentes is another of “those” pitchers who has one good season and suddenly GM’s think he is talented. #FAIL

  26. will says:

    Bob Lorenz is terrible.

  27. A-Rod's Hip says:


  28. Kostas says:

    Awesome! So it begins.

  29. Reggie C. says:

    Nova’s got nothing. Just nothing.

  30. Jimmy says:

    Sick of Nova.

  31. CBean says:

    why didn’t we skip Nova?

  32. Cy Pettitte says:

    Nice knowin’ ya Ivan.

  33. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Is Coltrane on drugs?

  34. Mickey Scheister says:

    Silva please.

  35. A-Rod's Hip says:

    Walkoff hit for Tabata down in Pittsburgh.

  36. Jonathan says:

    Wow…that was clearly a crossup. This is my first time with Lorenz and Flaherty and they are AWFUL. Are they always this bad?

  37. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    When you can’t miss a bat you can’t give away walks and free bases. Such is the life of Ivan Nova.

  38. Reggie C. says:

    Get Noesi warming up. He’s only got 8.2 innings to pitch.

  39. Jimmy says:

    Would like to see Noesi warming up like right now.

  40. Jerome S. says:

    I think Nova will recover from this inning and go on to be solid for the next few.

  41. Jonathan says:

    And Nova is far from inconsistent. He fucking sucks night in and night out.

    • Freddy's Mom says:

      He had one brilliant start. Another that wasn’t so bad. Get a grip, man.

      • Jonathan says:

        are you joking? If your K/9 and BB/9 numbers are both in the 4′s you suck. If part of your argument is he had a start that “wasn’t so bad”, you’ve already lost it.

        • Freddy's Mom says:

          Dude, go back and read what I said. Did it seem like a joke to you? The last phrase is most relevant: get a grip on yourself. Yes, the overall numbers are bad but your original statement was inaccurate, intemperate and hugely uninteresting.

          • Jonathan says:

            get a grip on myself? you seem to be the one overreacting. sure, even the worst players have decent days, but the guy has proven at this point he isn’t a major league starter. Especially not in the AL East. I have no idea why you’re attempting to defend a guy that just flat out isn’t any good. I don’t have anything against the guy besides the fact that he continues to hurt the team with bad start after bad start. Are you his mom or something? The broadcasters were saying the problem with Nova is he is inconsistent. I’m saying the problem with Nova is he sucks.

  42. Freddy's Mom says:

    If Nova is left in after 3 runs, Girardi is conceding this game.

  43. Cy Pettitte says:

    anyone in the bullpen who can throw strikes?

  44. swishers fauxhawk says:

    I want to like Ivan Nova. But it’s not going to work out.

  45. MikeD says:

    My guess is Noesi takes Nova’s spot after the Sox series.

  46. Jimmy says:

    Um. 3-0? lol

  47. V says:

    Way to go, Girardi. Skipping Nova when you can is Managing 101, and you failed.

  48. A-Rod's Hip says:

    So could this really be Nova’s last start? Is anyone gonna be ready to replace him by his next go-round in the rotation?

    • Cy Pettitte says:

      Noesi in the pen, Silva is lined up starting the same nights as Nova in AAA. Not sure what nights Phelps is starting.

      • A-Rod's Hip says:

        Thanks for the word. Hmmm.. It’s a tough call if I’d rather have Noesi out there. Silva could at worst just be a similar Garcia.. which as of now is still better than what Nova’s been doing lately.

        This might be it for Ivan.

  49. Freddy's Mom says:

    I think I might have to opt out of this tonight if it’s gonna be another gigantor Girardi-bashing fest.

  50. Jerome S. says:

    Aaaaaand the CentWAR getting it done again.

  51. Jimmy says:

    Thank you Yuri

  52. A-Rod's Hip says:

    I’ll go out on a limb and say that Angels fans don’t like A-Rod very much. Just a guess.

  53. MikeD says:

    RBI, please.

  54. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:


  55. A-Rod's Hip says:

    Very nice Russell.

  56. CBean says:

    Yay Martin!

  57. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Hip hip??

  58. CMP says:

    Here comes the rally killer

  59. Jonathan says:

    This has GIDP written all over it. Let’s go Jorge. Big knock buddy.

  60. Cuso says:

    Swisher should take a page out of Mariano Duncan’s playbook and just pick one side of the plate (the right side).

  61. Cy Pettitte says:

    ewwww Jorge.

  62. CMP says:

    At least he stayed out of the DP.

  63. Oliver says:

    Apparently the Halos got raped by the Red Sox so many times that they’ve started using the same uniform numbers Boston does.

  64. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Right down Main Street.

  65. A-Rod's Hip says:

    Great f’n pitch by Weaver.

  66. FIPster Doofus says:

    Jorge’s dunzo.

  67. MikeD says:

    Jorge clearly looking for something other than the fastball right down the middle.

    Weaver clearly not shap, so at least we’re driving up the pitch count.

  68. Cuso says:

    posada, go be with yo wife

  69. Kostas says:

    feel bad for Posada but he just needs to walk away. No good will come from the remainder of this season for him.

    • MikeD says:

      A lot of good will come from not walking away. For one, another $6.5 million in his bank account. He’s sticking, and I would, too.

      • Kostas says:

        Money aside, he hasn’t done anything of value for the Yanks. All he has to do is hit and collect a paycheck. He couldn’t even pull a Paul O’Neil and assault the water cooler. He’d swing and miss.

  70. A-Rod's Hip says:

    At least we’re making him work. 52 pitches already through 1.2 innings. I’m sure someone else will post that comment soon after. (or may have beat me to it)

  71. Mike Axisa says:

    Swing the fucking bat please.

    • Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

      Tough pitch. Looked like a ball then tails back over the plate. Gardner hadn’t seen it the whole AB.

  72. paulc says:

    If Nova keeps this up…please coach give noesi a shot, silva waiting in the wings, phelps..anybody but nova right now…killin us…and poor poor jorge-just done is all…

  73. Jimmy says:

    Man what the hell was that?

  74. Jonathan says:

    I hate that Gameday won’t let you look back to see where pitches were anymore

  75. CBean says:

    how’s the Angels bullpen?

  76. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Love to have Weaver. He’s not very sharp and facing a great lineup but still has four pitches he can go to at any time to get a big out.

  77. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Bat. Swing.

  78. first time lawng time says:

    Flash + Lorenz + 10 PM game = snoozer

  79. Matt says:

    You people clearly do not know what you are talking about when it comes to these at bats.

    Do you think Posada and Gardner are taking fastballs out over the plate just to annoy you?

    Every pitch in those 2 at bats was on the outside corner or just off the outside, including a lot of offspeed pitches. When you’ve seen all of your pitches on one side of the plate in a 3-2 count, you have to protect the outside and lean out there and fight them off.

    Weaver made some good pitches on the inside half and locked these hitters up on 3-2. The pitch to Posada was a cookie but when you are looking away, it feels like it’s way inside. Gardner’s was barely off the inside corner.

  80. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Mathis will be the 2011 AL batting champ.

  81. CMP says:

    That rock pile looks like such a cheesy piece of shit.

  82. first time lawng time says:

    Am I going crazy, or have the Angels changed their uniforms?

  83. A-Rod's Hip says:

    Thank goodness Nova got out of that without giving up a run. That would’ve been so deflating for him and his psyche.

  84. swishers fauxhawk says:

    This strike zone does not like lefties.

  85. Matt says:

    What kills the Yankees a lot more than Posada’s at bat is Jeter’s 2-0 lazy fly ball to left field. Weaver had just thrown 53 pitches in the first 2 innings, at least take a pitch.

    • Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

      Are you serious? You’re mad at Jeter for swinging at an 0-2 meatball? He just missed it.

  86. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Granderson 0 for his last 7. Pick it up asshole.

  87. MikeD says:

    Something that would make me happy: A report that Phil Hughes tossed a fastball at 94 mph.

  88. CMP says:

    Kim Jones dresses like an old lady.

  89. MikeD says:

    Nova for the All-Star team!

  90. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Oh that had murder written all over it.

  91. CMP says:

    Show a little skin

  92. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Nieves > Martin

  93. Kostas says:

    Can someone get a hit and tie this game up.

  94. Cy Pettitte says:

    come on Jorge, be productive.

  95. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Hip hip?

  96. Cuso says:

    Clearly they pitch around Swisher. Posada, if you have ANYTHING, make them pay.

  97. Cy Pettitte says:

    hip fucking hip!

  98. Kostas says:

    C’mon Jorge get a fucking hit for a change.

  99. CBean says:

    HIP HIP!

  100. Mike Axisa says:

    Hip hip, but damn, ground rule double cost them a run.

  101. MikeD says:


    BTW Bob Lorenz, you can show some emotion on a clear Yankee hit to tie the game. Just a thought.

  102. Cuso says:


  103. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Bob Lorenz has no idea what’s going on.


  104. CMP says:

    Gotta love the work the Yankee offense has turned in against some tough pitchers this road trip.

  105. swishers fauxhawk says:

    89 pitches through 4.

    Deliver the knockout blow next inning.

  106. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Gardner can consistently strike out in high elverage situations. Who said this team is inconsistent?

  107. bonestock94 says:

    Jorge’s not dead yet

  108. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Erstad’s 2000 season was effing sick.

  109. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Has Nova gotten one swing and miss tonight? I don’t think he has and I’ve been trying to keep track for fun.

  110. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Any time Ivan wants to not throw turdballs down the middle

  111. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Walk Mathis?????

  112. Cy Pettitte says:

    walk to Mathis, unforgivable. Please kindly return to Scranton.

  113. V says:

    Walking Jeff Mathis should be an immediate demotion.

  114. Pat D says:

    Walking Jeff Mathis is a crime punishable by death, in my code of laws.

  115. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    What a joke. And I have no doubt he’ll give up the lead here.

  116. Jetrer says:

    Walk Mathis, nice. How the fuck do you walk Mathis?

  117. Jonathan says:

    did he just say first piss?

  118. JobaWockeeZ says:

    Nova to AAA, Carlos Silva to rotation.

  119. Jetrer says:

    bullpen please

  120. Pat D says:

    Anyone else think ARod should have gotten that ball?

    And once again thanks to Mike for being right on his “annoying player of the series pick.”

  121. CBean says:

    isn’t our bullpen nice and rested?

  122. V says:

    2nd swinging strike!

  123. Ivan says:

    Really, early MVP?!?!

  124. Jerome S. says:

    Only gave up a run!

  125. CBean says:

    runs please!

  126. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Here we go. Big inning coming.

  127. the tenth inning stretch says:

    This would be an awesome time for a Grandy HR.

  128. Cy Pettitte says:

    BusterOlney -”You can tell Ivan Nova is going to be good for a long time, but he has to grind through a lot of inconsistency, like a lot of young pitchers”

    well that’s good to know.

  129. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:


  130. Pat D says:

    Wow, the strikeout sound effects they use are far more annoying than the PC Richard whistle.

  131. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Now that was awful. Weaver’s tiring and they help him out flailing at pitches out of the zone.

  132. swishers fauxhawk says:


  133. Pat D says:

    Granderson has looked fairly terrible tonight.

    Gardner has looked fairly terrible this road trip.

    Just sayin’.

  134. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Haha, you suck Bobby.

  135. Cy Pettitte says:

    that was gritty

  136. Pat D says:

    I think that hit his wrist.

  137. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    That line drive looks like it’s coming back three times as fast as it was pitched.

  138. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Robbie GTFO

  139. Mike Axisa says:

    Weaver is totally going out for the seventh.

  140. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Talk about letting a pitcher off the hook. Very disappointing night so far.

  141. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Awesome, Robbie.

  142. Cy Pettitte says:

    way to work his pitch count

  143. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Martin GTFO

  144. Jetrer says:

    WTF. Its like they want Weaver to pitch 7 innings.

  145. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    That was so fucking pathetic that I’m going to blame it on Girardi.

  146. CBean says:

    Could we have made that any easier for Weaver?

  147. swishers fauxhawk says:


  148. Cy Pettitte says:

    I’ve never seen someone so excited to get a Russell Branyan foul ball

  149. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Obligatory pervert quote from Lorenz.

  150. Charles says:

    Why would you swing so early in the count all 3 ABs? The guy is at 108 pitches, make him work and get him out of here…

  151. Pat D says:

    Sigh, Swish. Sigh.

  152. JohnnyC says:

    Fun fact: the year the Angels won the World Series, as a team, they saw the fewest pitches at bat in the majors.

    • Pat D says:

      For me, knowing how easily they beat the Yankees in the ALDS, that’s more of a “head hit desk” fact as opposed to a “fun” fact.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      They were also not the small ball team everyone constantly says they were. Troy Glaus, Garrett Anderson, Tim Salmon, and Brad Fullmer killed the ball. Hell, the only reason they won the World Series was because Scott Spiezio, Darin Erstad, and Glaus used power to tie Game Six and then take the lead, avoiding elimination.

  153. bonestock94 says:

    For all the bitching nova’s been ok.

  154. A-Rod's Hip says:

    Props to those of us who said Nova would settle down and be “solid” after the 1st. Forgot who else said it. Computer’s too slow to scroll up.

  155. Pat D says:

    I can haz offense?

  156. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Scioscia PLEASE bring in Takahashi.

  157. Jetrer says:

    keep taking those fastballs down the middle. That strategy is sure to lead to success.

  158. Greg says:

    Damn the Angels must be afraid of their bullpen

  159. wow says:


  160. Greg says:

    The thing that alleves this is that we are being shut down by a brand name in Jered Weaver. If this were Scott Kazmir on the other hand…

  161. Esteban says:

    Wow imagine the Rays fans going crazy over the Rays giving up 7 runs to the Mariners.

  162. V says:

    1) Holy crap did this team let Weaver off the hook. Awful at bats after Jeter’s walk in the 5th.

    2) Holy crap is Mike Scioscia going to end Weaver’s career early. He threw 128 in his previous outing.

    • Greg says:

      Its Jered Weaver. He’s a good pitcher.

      • V says:

        Um… duh?

        That good pitcher had over 50 pitches through 2 innings.

        1st: 27
        2nd: 26
        3rd: 10
        4th: 26
        5th: 12
        6th: 6
        7th: 12

        They bailed him out. Pure and simple.

        • Esteban says:

          Or he started pitching better. That’s an option too, right?

          • V says:

            5th inning – 5 strikes thrown:
            Granderson struck out.
            Teixeira grounded out in a 2-1 count.

            6th inning – 5 strikes thrown:
            ARod struck out.
            Cano – first pitch pop out.
            Martin – first pitch foul out.

            7th inning – 8 strikes thrown:
            Swisher struck out.
            Posada flew out on 0-1 count.
            Gardner flew out on 2-1 count.

            So, um, no. It isn’t. That 6th inning in particular had dreadful at bats by Cano and Martin.

            • Esteban says:

              But Weaver had no part in that. The Yankees just got themselves out.

              Swinging at pitches in 2-1 counts is not ridiculous. Weaver should get some credit (right?) for the 3 strikeouts. Just going up there and taking the first pitch, especially in those innings is not a great team strategy. A pitcher like Weaver would figure it out and get easy strikes.

        • bonestock94 says:

          Pitch count tells the whole story? Good pitchers battle back

    • Pat D says:

      1) Agreed.

      2) In the words of The Emperor, “Good…good.”

    • JohnnyC says:

      Could be they don’t plan on signing him when he’s a free agent after 2012. After all, his agent happens to be Scott Boras.

  163. MikeD says:

    Can I really vote for the Player of the Game until I know who is going to win the game for the Yankees tonight?

  164. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    I just started watching. How did Nova look?

  165. Mike Axisa says:

    That’s my favorite manager move. Leave the starter in too long so he allows he leadoff man to reach base, then go to the bullpen.

  166. MikeD says:

    Hmmm, it’s 12:15 and suddenly realize why I’m hungry. I never had dinner. I guess I’ll just pretend I’m in California and go for it now.

  167. Matt says:

    This offense is really incredible. You have Weaver on the ropes, on the verge of knocking him out of the game, and these idiots go up there hacking away at the first pitch out of the zone making weak outs.

    All it takes is one or two selfish at bats to destroy what you’ve worked so hard for in the previous 5 innings, and tonight was another example of that.

    Instead of swinging for the fences against a guy who has allowed only 4 HR all season and has a BAA under .200, how about you try to knock him out of the game and do it against the mediocre bullpen arms that you’d be faced with in his place? No sense of the situation in the approach there.

    • Esteban says:

      You know the Yankees were swinging for the fences? From where did you get this info?

      • Pat D says:

        He was there in the room with Dolan and Walsh when they were hammering out the details of the Melo trade……

        Wait, sorry, just remembering how Francesa hammered someone today.

        • Cuso says:

          lol, saw that segment. this was the same guy calling everyone ignorant 90 minutes ago for getting on Posada & Gardner taking called third strikes. took 5 innings to do a complete 180.

      • Matt says:

        Stop being ridiculous. What do you think these hitters are thinking when they go up there falling to a knee swinging at offspeed junk when they haven’t seen a fastball all night?

        It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out what the approach is of some of these hitters. If you are going to attempt to mock me, at least try to say something intelligent in the process rather than contribute nothing to the discussion as you have done here.

        • Esteban says:

          I guess I don’t know much, but whatever approach these Yankees hitters have developed has produced hall of fame and all start caliber players. I think I’ll trust their approach.

  168. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Dustin Moseley through a gem tonight.

  169. Kostas says:

    Fuck, the disappear AB’s have returned. Yanks lose this one, it is because they bailed Weaver out of at least three innings when they should have scored 1+ runs.

  170. Cy Pettitte says:

    what the fuck

  171. Jetrer says:

    looks like Jeter missed the tag

  172. Pat D says:

    Nice job, Jetes.

  173. V says:

    I hate intentional walks in 1 run games.

  174. Jetrer says:

    that should be an E6

  175. Great now that bum can’t even apply a tag…

  176. MikeD says:

    Great, now the umpire decides to have good eyes, or not give the automatic out call when the ball beats the runner, which happens 90% of the other time!

  177. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    And in comes Joe Dumbass with the unnecessary IBB of the day…

  178. Cy Pettitte says:

    DROB > everyone

  179. FIREMANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  180. Esteban says:

    Yay for 3rd outs at third base.

  181. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Nice and nice.

  182. swishers fauxhawk says:

    Robertson just tied Nova for strikeouts tonight.

  183. JohnnyC says:

    Got the DP…the unusual way.

  184. CBean says:

    wow that was awesome! Go Martin!

  185. Mike Axisa says:

    Torii’s a girl’s name.

  186. bonestock94 says:


  187. Cy Pettitte says:

    If they can’t get a run off Downs I give up.

  188. V says:

    Wow. Robertson didn’t get one swinging strike in that inning. Five strikes looking. Nice.

  189. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    I LOVE having a catcher that can actually throw runners out. With Jorge, we’re lucky if that ball doesn’t go into LF

  190. JohnnyC says:

    Downs in to neutralize Curtis. Mike Sciosia doesn’t believe in advance scouting?

  191. Cy Pettitte says:

    where’s Joba?

  192. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:


  193. Greg says:

    Curtis is in a bit of a slump

  194. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    A poll question on the Angles broadcast was “What do you dislike most about the Yankees?”

    The city
    The big money
    The championships
    The brash attitude


    • Greg says:

      They better say the championships

    • JohnnyC says:

      It’s funny but none of these morons ever think that a lot of people hate THEIR team. It’s just that their team isn’t important enough to waste your hatred on.

      • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

        I absolutely HATE the Angels. Regardless of how irrelevant they are.

      • Pat D says:

        I’ve hated the fucking Angels since Scioscia’s arrival.

        And when I found out my dickhole manager at Circuit City at the time was an Angels fan.

        • MikeD says:

          I must have missed an update. When did you leave T-Mobile? Getting out ahead before the merger, or did they already start cutting? If so, hopefully you got something out of it.

          • Pat D says:

            No, this was back in 2001-2002 that I’m referencing.

            Nothing new on the merger. They still have July 1, 2012 as an expected close date. I still fully expect to be laid off at the time, in which case I will get a severance package.

            But they fucked up the severance packages. They sent all of us letters with what they would be, then corrected them about a week later saying they messed up. My package lost about $8000.

            I am trying to take a month long leave of absence because I just have the need to get out of the place and clear my heard for a while. That would being in two weeks, assuming it gets approved.

    • MikeD says:

      I wonder if they realize how many NYers are out there watching, who must might take offense?

  195. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    So who’s going to see Taio Cruz at Angel Stadium on June 11?

  196. CMP says:

    Curtis sure had a shitty night though he’s allowed with the year he’s having.

  197. Pat D says:

    If those were the fireworks at DisneyLand, how came I didn’t see one recognizable part of DisneyLand? Even at night, it’s pretty obvious looking.

  198. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    Dear A-Rod,

    Pretend it’s Brian Fuentes at Yankee Stadium.


    Guns of the… well I’ve got a long name.

  199. V says:

    Crap. Fantasy team has a 12/29 going. 0/4s by Joyce, Longoria, and Granderson. Ouch.

  200. V says:

    Bull shit.

  201. V says:

    Bull. Fucking. Shit.

  202. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Marty Foster GTFO

  203. V says:

    “That is fucking ridiculous”, lol, can hear that on the broadcast.

  204. Matt says:

    That is the worst check swing call that I’ve seen all season going either way.

  205. V says:

    And that was ball 4.

    • Matt says:

      Definitely not. Bad outcome does not mean bad approach, and he hit it hard.

      • V says:

        No, the previous pitch was ball 4. If the checked swing was called a ball.

        • Matt says:

          He’s not going to throw the same pitch sequence if that is called a check swing. All of the breaking balls that got him to 3-2 were the result of him trying to waste pitches in a 1-2 count.

  206. Orlando says:

    Alex….pretend your still with Kate Hudson!!!

  207. Those hats are fucking ugly and is Bob Lorenz the commentator?

  208. V says:

    An inning taken away by an umpire. Again. Fucking hate those fucking blind old imbeciles.

  209. Stratman9652 says:

    “Had to be in a hurry because Teixera was on the run.” What are “things you don’t hear very often” for 1000 Alex?

  210. wow says:

    just a heartbreaker right now

  211. Greg says:

    Sometimes you run into a good pitcher.

    • Matt says:

      Stop with this nonsense. Weaver was at 88 pitches in the first 4 innings, and the Angels have an incredibly mediocre bullpen outside of their closer. The Yankees did not get beaten by good pitching, they beat themselves by allowing Weaver to pitch 3 (!) more innings with their terrible at bats swinging at garbage pitches.

  212. Frigidevil says:

    This may sound crazy but are the Angels wearing helmets in the field?

  213. Esteban says:

    If you could be one professional athlete (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, Soccer) of the last 20 years, who would you be?

    Jordan is a good choice I think. Then Jeter, then Tom Brady, then Leo Messi.

  214. Matt says:

    The home plate umpire has single handedly changed the progression of this game by suddenly expanding the strike zone tremendously in the 5th inning.

    Weaver benefited the most from this kind of zone because of all the offspeed junk that he throws ends up just below the bottom of the zone and just off of the outside corner, where strikes were not being called all night until that point.

    Yankees hitters have been forced to swing at a lot of garbage pitches because pitches below the knees are all of a sudden strikes.

  215. Cy Pettitte says:


  216. CMP says:

    Why the hell isn’t Noesi pitching? Logan has sucked this year.

  217. Mike Axisa says:

    Real shortstop, pls.

  218. CBean says:

    Boone Logan you are useless.

  219. Pat D says:

    Nice range, Derek.

  220. Ivan says:

    Really Jeter. Even an average SS makes that play

  221. CMP says:

    Another brilliant move by Girardi starting the inning with shithead Logan.

    • Mike Axisa says:

      Logan did his job. The Yankees just don’t have a real shortstop to turn that into an out.

    • Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

      I’m assuming he brought him in primarily for Branyan. He didn’t anticipate being pinch hit for?? His managing is bad enough but it’s just sad to see him out-managed like that. A completely wasted pitching appearance.

  222. Kostas says:

    The effectiveness of Boone Logan has been reduced to just a tall man on the mound.

  223. Stratman9652 says:

    Seriously, what is the point of have Noesi in the pen if he is only gonna get used once or twice a month?

    • Esteban says:

      I think he’s the longman now. So he gets used in those spots. It happens a lot to young pitchers.

      • Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

        What bothers me is if Joe would give him more high leverage innings, he may turn into a 2009 Phil Hughes.

        • Esteban says:

          Mayb in time, but I don’t think Noesi was the same caliber of prospect as Hughes, and Hughes had more time in the majors before getting TEH 8th inning job. Noesi’s pitched 9.1 innings in the majors. He should get a shot, but ‘m not gonna kill Girardi for not having already used Noesi in high leverage situations.

          • V says:

            I don’t see how ‘caliber of prospect’ has anything to do with how effective a guy might be as a one inning reliever.

            • Esteban says:

              Why not? When a manager is deciding on who to put in in high leverage situations, the quality of the pitcher (‘the caliber of the prospect’) should probably come into play, no?

  224. Orlando says:

    Note to YES exec’s……please keep Bob Lorenz in the studio and away from the booth!!!

    p.s. Please bring Jim Kaat back

  225. Orlando says:

    AYALA???……What is the use of having Noesi in the pen?

  226. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    D-Rob threw 14 pitches in the 7th and hasn’t pitched since Saturday. Why couldn’t he go 2 innings?

  227. Mike Axisa says:

    Anytime you have a chance to intentionally walk a guy with a ~.300 OBP, you have to take it.

  228. MikeD says:

    Ummm, a hit here and the game is effectively over. A better arm should be on the mound.

    • Esteban says:

      Luis Ayala hasn’t been bad this year. 1.69 ERA (246 ERA+), 1.3 WHIP, 7 K/9, 2.8 BB/9. He has to be able to pitch in situations like that with Soriano being out.

  229. Kostas says:

    Can’t believe for as poorly as Weaver pitches the dominance that is the Yankees has three fucking hit. THREE?????

  230. Orlando says:


  231. Cy Pettitte says:


  232. JohnnyC says:

    The old intentional HBP. Why waste 3 pitches anyway.

  233. Orlando says:

    Girardi is trying to figure out a way to sneak Logan back on the mound…

  234. Kostas says:

    So that IBB could prove to be very effective, for the Angels… now that bases are loaded.

    Girardi’s in game moves are just baffling at times.

  235. I don’t really mind Bob. Kinda just calls the game, pretty cool. Its better than hearing about the shit Kay says that no1 cares about.

  236. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    If Girardi was the Angles manager, Fernando Rodney would still be the closer.

  237. Orlando says:

    Huge comeback here!!! Who’s with me?

  238. JohnnyC says:

    They say this guys throws 100.

  239. Kostas says:

    Give it up… Arizona State with 3 runs in the bottom of the 9th. One step closer to Omaha.

  240. JohnnyC says:

    This guy’s a shoulder injury waiting to happen.

  241. CBean says:

    I miss our homeruns.

  242. CMP says:

    If Cano gets on do you pinch run Nunez?

  243. V says:

    Robinson Cano would be an -all time great- if he had a better eye.

  244. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Everytime a player fouls a ball off their leg I think of Jermaine Dye.

  245. V says:

    Swung at several ball fours.

  246. Orlando says:

    nasty slider!

  247. Pat D says:

    Cano is getting like Posada swinging over the top of the down and in breaking ball.

  248. Matt says:

    Terrible at bat by Cano, even though he saw a lot of pitches. He hacked away on 3-1 when the pitcher had no idea where the ball was going. Girardi needs to put the red light on for guys like Cano in these situations. Instead of trying to take the walk that the pitcher was giving him, he went up there trying to do too much and predictably got himself out.

    • Jetrer says:

      You wanted Cano to have the take sign on 3-1??

      • Matt says:

        Without a doubt.

        You cannot trust Cano to swing at strikes anymore, and this pitcher had no idea where the ball is going. His stuff is so overpowering that even if you turn Cano loose, the chances are that he doesn’t hit the ball very hard because he has never seen this pitcher before, even if it is in the zone.

        I would have easily bet that the pitcher would throw 1 ball before he threw 2 strikes given his mechanics in that inning thus far, and he did. Once Cano got himself to 3-2 chasing ball 4, he was done for in that at bat because Walden’s stuff is too good and Cano would not take the walk in that situation.

        • Jetrer says:

          You want your better hitters to have a chance to hit in good hitters counts. Cano swung at bat pitches, but that is on him. IF he gets a good pitch to hit on 3-1, he should absolutely swing at it. You can’t have your best hitters going to the plate just hoping to draw a walk.

    • Orlando says:

      How do you explain putting the red light on 3-1 to your best hitter?

        • Orlando says:


        • Matt says:

          It’s only hindsight when you don’t agree with my opinion.

          Everyone in the world knew that Cano would not be taking a walk there. He was barely holding up his swing on pitches that nearly hit him in that at bat.

          Walden has overpowering stuff, and erratic control. Which do you think would be more likely, a walk or a hard hit ball? Walden has not allowed a single home run in 20 or so innings pitched this year.

          It’s not hindsight, it’s being smart. Cano is hardly their best hitter right now, he has no plate discipline and gets himself out swinging at balls. And if he throws a strike on 3-1, so what. Walden could get you out even if he threw it down the middle because he throws 100 mph. Make him earn it.

          • Mike Axisa says:

            Which do you think would be more likely, a walk or a hard hit ball?

            A hard hit ball, since he hit several that were foul.

            • Matt says:

              Here you are crying about hindsight, yet you invoke it right here. Cano had not swung at a pitch in that at bat up to that point. In fact, the body language on his takes suggested that he was having a hard time picking up the ball out of the pitcher’s hand.

              Leading off an inning in a 1-run game, you are taking there if you have the plate discipline of Robinson Cano. If it’s Teix or A-Rod, you can trust that they will only swing at a strike, but not Cano.

              It’s a typical Cano at bat. It looks good that he fouled off those pitches, but he was in that situation because he expanded the zone earlier on.

          • Jetrer says:

            So then what? You apparently think nobody could possibly hit Walden, so what tell everyone not to swing and hope he walks 4 batters?? Hitters counts are your best chance to hit good pitchers. Trying to prevent your own players from taking advantage of that is lunacy.

            • Matt says:

              No, that is not even close to what I am saying.

              I’m saying that Cano was not likely to hit Walden because:

              1) He visibly was struggling to pick up the ball, as evidenced by his late reaction to pitches that were nearly hitting him.

              2) He was not likely to swing at a strike.

              When a pitcher throws 100 mph and both of these conditions are in play, do you think the hitter is likely to square a ball up? I’m not asking for Cano to stand there until he throws 2 strikes or a ball. I’m asking for him to take ONE pitch, and make the pitcher earn it leading off the inning.

              If he throws a strike on 3-1, then you are still in a fastball count. Make him prove he can throw a strike before you start hacking away. Even the one called strike in that at bat was on a horrible call by the HP ump and was out of the zone.

              • Jetrer says:

                3-1 is a much better hitters count than 3-2. 3-1 you can grip it and rip it. 3-2 you have to protect the plate. Even if it is a fastball in both counts, there is a much better chance of doing damage with less than two strikes. BTW he struck out on a SLIDER in your fastball count.

                • Matt says:

                  Umm… Cano struck out on a slider after he fouled off FOUR 3-2 fastballs.

                  When in that entire at bat did Walden demonstrate that he was likely to throw a strike on 3-1? He nearly hit Cano on 2 pitches in that at bat on 1-1 and 2-1.

                  Cano was their best hitter last year, but he hasn’t been this year. Watch what he’s actually doing at the plate right now. Until he starts to show plate discipline again, you have to make him take some pitches in those spots.

                  Leading off the 9th inning, a walk is just as good as a single there. You don’t need to turn a free swinger loose on 3-1.

                  • Jetrer says:

                    You want Cano to walk and hope Swisher, Posada, or Gardner knock him in. I’d rather leave the game in the hands of better hitters. Free swinger or not, Cano is a better hitter than those guys.

                  • Jetrer says:

                    My point on the slider is Cano is more likely to chase that with 2 strikes than with one strike. Thats why letting the pitcher get to 2 strikes is an advantage to the pitcher. There is no reason to give a tough pitcher an extra advantage for free just because you don’t like the plate discipline of the hitter.

                    • Matt says:

                      And I know what you’re saying, but Cano is up there facing 100 mph heat. What makes you think he’s going to square that up even if he gets one out over the plate? He could have just as easily hit a lazy fly ball to left field even if he swung at a strike.

                      You have a better chance of getting on base if you force the pitcher to throw you strikes in that situation. The problem is, Cano is not going to do that on his own, because he’ll swing at borderline pitches that he can’t hit.

                    • Jetrer says:

                      But by giving him the free strike, your relying on Cano to lay off 3-2 pitches that are out of the zone. You don’t trust him to do it 3-1 when he has the advantage, but you think he will suddenly be patient and take a walk on 3-2. Obviously not as he swung at several 3-2 pitches out of the zone. Cano wasn’t going to walk there either way, unless you want to make him take on 3-2 as well.

                    • Esteban says:

                      Robinson Cano certainly has the talent to hit a 97 mph pitch.

              • Mike Axisa says:

                I’m not asking for Cano to stand there until he throws 2 strikes or a ball. I’m asking for him to take ONE pitch, and make the pitcher earn it leading off the inning.

                This entire conversation is pointless because the 3-1 pitch was most likely a strike anyway:


                • Matt says:

                  It wasn’t a strike. If you watched them show the replay, it was a few inches above the belt. It was borderline at best, and I’d rather Cano take a close pitch for a strike because he’s not likely to square it up at 98 mph on the corner.

    • CMP says:

      That’s crazy talk.

    • Esteban says:

      What? Put a red light on Robinson Cano in 3-1 situations? That’s ridiculous. Sometimes players swing at bad pitches, it happens even to the players with the best eyes. It’s the nature of having less than half a second to decide to swing at a pitch going 95 MPH. I don’t think swinging at a ball, a ball that was not the worst pitch ever, proves that Cano was trying to do too much.

      • Matt says:

        Cano always swings at bad pitches. Why are you so surprised?

        This is the difference that a good manager can make in close games. Sometimes you have to save players from themselves. A player has to earn their right to a perpetual green light, whether on the bases or at the plate. Cano is hitting .278 right now and making a lot of outs on balls early in the count.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          Good grief. So Cano hasn’t earned the perpetual green light? Did he just come up this year?

        • Esteban says:

          Bad managers are the ones that don’t allow their best hitters to hit in 3-1 counts.

          • Jetrer says:


          • Matt says:

            Or maybe you have to think a bit outside of the box instead of sitting on your butt waiting for things to happen all of the time?

            A bad manager is one who is too worried about protecting the egos of his players at the expense of winning ballgames.

            It’s unconventional, but when you weigh the scenario, it’s really not that out of the question. Nobody likes to hear things which go against the grain, but THINK about it for a little bit and it really does make sense.

            Do you really think Cano was going to hit this guy? Based on his entire at bat to that point, the guy’s numbers, Cano’s typical approach, yes or no? I doubt that you really thought the answer was yes, until you had to disagree with my post.

            • Esteban says:

              It’s against the grain to give a red light to one of the best hitters in the majors because that would be a bad idea, an idea that would likely cost you runs. Sometimes baseball conventions are stupid. This time is not one of them.

              • Esteban says:

                And to add to that, Cano is a career .348/.552/.587 hitter on 3-1 pitches, .287/.483/.468 after 3-1.

            • Jetrer says:

              Who in the lineup do you think can hit this guy then?? Cano had as much of a chance (really more of a chance) than any of the hitters behind him (possible exception being Martin). Would you rather take your chances with Cano or Swisher or Posada? Thats not a difficult choice if you really think about it.

            • Mike Axisa says:

              “Or maybe you have to think a bit outside of the box instead of sitting on your butt waiting for things to happen all of the time?

              I’m sorry, but saying a hitter should take 3-1 just in case the pitcher decides to work himself into trouble is the definition of “sitting on your butt and waiting for things to happen.” You’re contradicting yourself.

              • Matt says:

                What are you talking about?

                Walden had shown no ability to control his pitches in that at bat. He did not throw a single pitch in the zone, and nearly hit Cano twice.

                Walden was already working himself into trouble. His stuff is incredible, you are very unlikely to beat him by smoking his stuff all over the ballpark.

                The only way that you are going to beat a guy like Walden is to let him beat himself by walking guys and setting up your inning for you. By turning guys loose there, you’re helping him out. Let him walk you!

                You don’t need to swing in that situation. A walk is just as good as a single leading off that inning. Once runners are on base, then yes, you need to try to drive those runs home. But swinging away in that situation was unnecessary.

                • Mike Axisa says:

                  So explain to me how forcing Cano to take the 3-1 pitch (by giving him the red light as you suggested) is different than “sitting on your butt and waiting for things to happen.”

                  By red lighting Cano, you’re just hoping Walden helps you out. It’s the same thing. You’re completely contradicting yourself.

                  • Matt says:

                    No, I’m not contradicting myself. You have completely missed the point.

                    I’m referring to the manager’s level of input into the strategy of his team. The manager can do nothing and wait for things to happen, aka just give the batters all green lights (“do whatever you feel like”) and dozing off until something happens, or they can micromanage and shift the strategy as things go along to try to force things on the field.

                    By taking on 3-1, you force the pitcher to throw a strike in that situation in which he had not demonstrated that he could yet. That’s not waiting for things to happen, that’s trying to make things happen by being smart. Cano did not swing at a strike until the 8th pitch of the AB.

                    • Jetrer says:

                      That 3-1 pitch was borderline but in the zone and most likely would have been called a strike. The seventh pitch was definitely a strike as well. Cano wasn’t walking there whether he took the 3-1 or not.

                    • Matt says:

                      Did you actually see the pitch live?

                      It was definitely not a strike. They showed the side angle of it and it was a few inches above the belt.

                      Pitch tracking is misleading if you don’t have a base of reference for the edges of the zone relative to what is on the screen.

        • Esteban says:

          Cano is batting (BA/SLG)
          First pitch: .327/.633
          0-1 count: .269/.269
          1-0 Count: .318/.545
          1-1 Count: .389/.833

          Cano seems to be hitting pretty well early in the count.

          • Matt says:

            Citing numbers blindly is misleading. How much of that came in April when he was showing the same kind of plate discipline that he had last season?

            Cano has lost control of the strike zone. Throw those numbers out the window. Watch what he is doing at the plate right now.

            • Jetrer says:

              Cano showed no plate discipline all year. Don’t distort the facts just to try to fit your narrative.

            • Esteban says:

              Well Cano’s walk rate was higher in May than in April (4.2%-2.9%) and actually saw more pitches (349) and balls (122) in May than in April (326,108). What do those numbers tell you?

            • Matt says:

              I’m not distorting any facts, you guys are just offended by what I’m saying.

              Cite relevant statistics, and we can talk about it. Walk rate doesn’t mean that much if he is facing guys who throw him 4 straight pitches a foot off the plate and he doesn’t have to take the bat off of his shoulder.

              In May, Cano swung at 43.9% of pitches outside of the strike zone. In March/April, he swung at 37.2% of pitches outside of the zone. In fact, both of those rates are higher than any season of his major league career, but it’s gotten even worse in May.

              • Jetrer says:

                but you still think he would take a walk on 3-2 if he took the 3-1 strike. He had a much better chance of doing something good 3-1 than 3-2. I’d rather rely on Cano to do something in a good hitters count than to blindly hope that a pitcher throws a called ball on the 3-1 pitch.

                • Esteban says:

                  Agree, according to the Brooks graph Mike linked to, there were 6 pitches that AB that could have been called strikes.

                • Matt says:

                  Blindly hope?

                  He almost hit Cano twice in that at bat and had no idea where the ball was going!

                  And those pitches were not strikes. Inside and outside, pitch tracking works well because home plate is a fixed width. But you know very well that it isn’t entirely accurate on height. If you watched those pitches from the side, you could see that they were above the belt.

                  • Jetrer says:

                    It is blind hope because you have no control over where the pitcher throws the ball and you have no control over whether the umpire calls it a strike or not. Leaving your destiny completely in the hands of others is blind hope.

                    • Matt says:

                      The pitcher barely had any control over where he threw the ball either, which is exactly the point.

                      Your arguments would pertain a lot more to 3-2 than 3-1. You don’t need to take things into your own hands on 3-1, you have more pitches to work with still. Leading off an inning in a 1-run game, a walk is as good as a single. You don’t need to be swinging there, make the pitcher earn it to some extent.

                      Even if you want to say it’s 50-50 that he throws a 3-1 strike, those are better odds than Cano putting the ball in play.

                    • Jetrer says:

                      except that the chances of hitting a good pitcher are a lot better 3-1, than 3-2. That I don’t trust Cano’s strike zone judgement is exactly why I’d want him with a chance to swing in a good hitters count.

              • Esteban says:

                Yes, I am offended that someone thinks it’s a good idea to give a red light to Robinson Cano on a 3-1 count, especially when three inferior hitters were batting after him.

  249. Orlando says:

    Love being hated by fans everywhere!!!

  250. Guns of the Navarone (a mushroom cloud layin' mothafucka, mothafucka!) says:

    And now the ump is giving him a few inches off the plate… forget it.

  251. V says:

    Awful game by the Yankees’ bats. After four this was the Yankees’ game to lose, and they lost it.

  252. FIPster Doofus says:

    That game was fucking stupid.

  253. bonestock94 says:


  254. Mike Axisa says:

    Meh, oh well. Go get ‘em tomor … later today.

  255. CMP says:

    Nova vs Weaver, this result wasn’t unexpected. They can still take 2 of 3.

  256. Kostas says:

    it has become a toss who is worse, Swisher, Gardner, Posada…either way, they are just killing this team.

  257. V says:

    What I don’t understand about Cano…

    In 2010, he had the most patient year in his career. He then had a career year.

    Now, he’s back to pre-2010 Cano. And it makes no fucking sense. Where did the patience disappear to? The “wait for your pitch and crush it”?

  258. MikeD says:

    Oh, well. Back again tomorrow.

  259. JohnnyC says:

    We’ll win tomorrow with CC on the bump. I just wish they’d play afternoon games on the West Coast.

  260. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Mike Estabrook’s strikezone was horrendous. All 25 Angles better run over and hive him a BJ.

  261. Joltin' Joe says:

    I fell asleep early and just woke up to see the last two innings… wish I was still asleep.

  262. nsalem says:

    Our 5 against their 1. Close but no cigar. We fought the good fight. A livable loss.

  263. nsalem says:

    How did you know my name was Jose???? Yankees will win the next two and fly home with a 6-3
    west coast trip which is quite acceptable.

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