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Fan Confidence Poll: June 25th, 2011

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Record Last Week: 4-3 (39 RS, 25 RA)
Season Record:
59-40 (513 RS, 385 RA, 63-36 pythag. record), three games back in the loss column
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Please take a second to answer the poll below and give us an idea of how confident you are in the team. You can view the Fan Confidence Graph anytime via the nav bar above, or by clicking here. Thanks in advance for voting.

Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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  1. Matt Warden says:

    I’ve been hovering at 7 all season, but with the new Torrisi-run Parm sandwich shop, I’m thinking it might be time to jump to a 8.

  2. steve s says:

    This year’s squad is good but not great. Can’t see any trade at the deadline (from the names that have come up so far) making any real difference in Yanks post-season chances of success so I hope they hold on to Montero and the 2 B’s (Brackman no longer worthy of B status) and all the emerging lower level talent and let the return of Chavez, Soriano and Arod carry them to a playoff spot and a post-season roll of the dice. A 7 overall.

  3. Monteroisdinero says:

    10 for the wild card

    7 to make it to World Series

  4. first time lawng time says:

    Wish Jeter, Jorge, AJ, Hughes would step it up.

  5. David, Jr. says:

    Definitions:

    Time Frame – this year.

    Scale – 10 would be slam dunk World Series favorite, and down from there.

    I am dropping from a 9 to an 8.5. This is an extremely talented team that should win something like 95 games and make the playoffs. Their overall talent has shown itself very well lately, in overcoming the loss of ARod, possibly their most important player. All kinds of positives that I have stated before and won’t go through.

    However, they have a serious weakness, which is starting pitching behind CC, which would most manifest itself in a playoff series. Anybody who chooses not to believe that is homer deluded IMHO.

    • first time lawng time says:

      If the playoffs started tomorrow, I would be confident with CC-Colon-AJ.

    • Jim S says:

      I’m not sure which is worse, ignorant optimism or ignorant pessimism.

      If being realistic yet positive about Bartolo Colon(whom you seem to ignore in every post) makes me a homer, then I’ll wear the label proudly.

      • David, Jr. says:

        Not pessimistic at all. In fact, at 8.5 or 9 all year I am very optimistic. Just see an area that could eventually haunt them, and I am betting that they see it, too.

        • Ted Nelson says:

          I don’t think anyone doesn’t see that there could be a problem with the pitching if injuries happen. I think calling people who disagree with you homers is disingenuous. No one disagrees with you that *if* Colon and Garcia get hurt and Hughes and AJ don’t show some signs of life pitching is an issue, they disagree about how likely that is to happen and about how much the Yankees should be willing to trade away to bring in what veteran starter.

          At the same time, counting on Lackey, Buchholz, and even Beckett is not all that great either. Lester has even been a bit sub-par compared to his previous seasons this season with his HRs up and Ks down.

          • David, Jr. says:

            Agree with you, Ted, that the competition is not awe inspiring. That is part of my overall optimism.

            I just see an obvious need that would get us to 9.5 territory, although it would reduce a rating for say the next five years if the farm system got scalped, particularly if the starter that came back was not a young one.

            Nothing wrong with being called a homer. In fact, you have called me that when I advocated trades that you viewed as being very Yankee-favorable.

            • Ted Nelson says:

              Yeah, agreed. I just don’t think people are necessarily being homers so much as disagreeing on the likelihood of a rotation melt-down. I think there are reasonable arguments on both sides and a lot of issues to weigh (trade value complicating things). I think you make a good point that the increased uncertainty compared to younger starters with a stronger recent track record erodes some confidence, but at the same time if Colon and Garcia stay healthy and the Yankees have one other top 4 starter between Hughes, AJ, Nova, Warren, etc. then they might be just fine.

              • David, Jr. says:

                I see a very interesting deadline. We have a real chance, and major chips to deal, which hasn’t always been the case. Cashman will definitely earn his money in the next few days. I believe the trick to it is not to bite for the “young for old” type of deal. As long as it is “extremely young for young”, I am good with it, because we improve now and stay strong for the future.

                • Ted Nelson says:

                  The interesting thing, though, is that he might earn his money as much for what he doesn’t do as what he does… which is what makes it so hard to judge a GM.

                  You’d have to hope that there’s an appropriate discount for getting an older player. Especially an expensive one.

                  • David, Jr. says:

                    Another thought would be kind of a combination type of deal, like one which somebody wrote about this morning. We would take somebody very expensive, like Alfonso Soriano, while also receiving Matt Garza, thereby reducing the prospect cost for Garza. We end up with our #2 starter, an improvement at DH, and retain more future, although add some payroll bloating.

                    • Ted Nelson says:

                      I would love to see Cashman pull a good value trade that helps the Yankees, but I’m just saying that if the Cubs (or whoever) don’t accept the type of offer you suggest Cashman can’t make them. If they’re demanding nothing less than Montero and Betances/Banuelos for Garza, he could be making a great non-move that we may never hear about.

                      Garza is still fairly young, but his FIP and ERA have both been around 4 for the past four years in the AL. He’s the kind of guy who might buy some piece of mind this season and could be a big upgrade, but then again might not ultimately be that much of an upgrade. Going forward he should provide value in the rotation, but probably not real #2 value.
                      I could definitely be on board… but I’m not dying for Garza. And since the Cubs sent two top prospects for Garza this offseason and his FIP is under 3, the Cubs might not be dying to unload Garza.

                      Of course this is only one example. I’m just saying that Cashman can’t make deals that the other team doesn’t agree to, and that if the other team demands too much… a simple “no” might be the best move.

                    • Ted Nelson says:

                      And Soriano may or may not be an upgrade over Jones against LHP… but the guy has been awful against righties this season.

  6. first time lawng time says:

    Also, will they ever call up Montero?

    I am happy Chavez and Soriano are returning. They should be good contributors, I expect. Can’t wait for Arod to return. I am bummed that he’s going to snap his 30HR 100 RBI streak, though.

    • The Big City of Dreams says:

      Also, will they ever call up Montero?

      ———————————–

      Montero more than anyone probably wants the deadline to come as fast as possible in order to get some clarity on his situation. Either he is traded or gets called up

      • David, Jr. says:

        This exactly. I won’t be surprised at all if he is traded. Just hope it is only in a package for a young and high quality starter. I don’t want him to traded. The one I want to go is Hughes, if that would let us keep Montero and the two B’s.

        However, if he isn’t traded I say he is brought help. He can help the team.

        • Ted Nelson says:

          Hughes trade value has got to be at an all-time low right now.

          • The Big City of Dreams says:

            2008 levels?

          • David, Jr. says:

            True. He has been awful, which is part of my starting pitching concern. Just wondering whether he is young enough and with enough major league success to maybe bring somebody like Matt Garza, who I would greatly prefer. Not saying alone, but as the key part of a package.

        • The Big City of Dreams says:

          Yea if he is traded for a high impact arm than as painful as it would be I would understand. If that guy is Felix it would be tough to be upset about it.

          There are a number of fans that want Hughes gone. Not sure what his standing is right now. I doubt Cashman would move him at this point. I think many fans have come to the point where they are tired with Hughes.

  7. Jorge says:

    It’s almost the end of July and Garcia and Colon are still breathing. Who could have expected that? The team will make the moves needed, and seem to appropriately, at least in trade talks, value their prospects. Any pitcher gets a mulligan with me when its 108 degrees outside, and the rope needs to be long, at this point, with Hughes. Back up to 8 for me. This team can do it.

  8. Hester Prynne says:

    Anything less than a 9 is still delusional. We’d be at a 10 if we had another decent starter. With Soriano returning our pen is in shape, Logan won’t be used as much with Drob available. Chavez returns to strengthen the bench. A-Rod returns in a couple weeks making our lineup the best in baseball.

    We do not have the starting rotation to beat Boston in the ALCS. We need one more starter as AJ and Phil cannot be counted on to start a playoff game against Boston.

    • first time lawng time says:

      Why can’t AJ be counted on?

      • Hester Prynne says:

        Have you seen him pitch lately? He’s been awful against Boston as a Yankee. If he’s more than our 4th starter in the playoffs then we’re in trouble. We paid him all that money for one great outing against Philly in the 09 WS. He’s been trash ever since.

        • first time lawng time says:

          1. Every other starter, except Nova, has sucked vs Boston this year
          2. AJ pitched that one game against Boston on August 7th, 2009 (great game) and he beat Boston his first start in 2010
          3. He pitched well in game 2 of the ALCS and ALDS that year, too.

          Really, no one can be relied on in the playoffs because anything could happen.

        • Ted Nelson says:

          Lackey can be counted on, but AJ and Hughes can’t? I don’t count on AJ or Hughes particularly, but Lackey is no better. Nor is Miller nor Wakefield nor Aceves. Lackey’s got an injury that he’s personally on record saying will deteriorate the more he pitches.

          AJ’s start against Texas last season in the ALCS actually went well until he stayed in too long and gave up the Molina HR.

          Yankees have injury question marks, but so do Beckett and Buchholz.

      • bonestock94 says:

        4.21 ERA 4.63 FIP is bad, period. It’s probably worse than league average. AJ Burnett can be counted on to be a poor pitcher. When you consider his contract it gets even uglier.

    • Jim S says:

      We have something else that can help us beat Boston in the ALCS: offense(especially with the return of A-Rod).

      I’m not saying we’re better than or worse than the Sox, but to go by the comments on this(and most boards) it’s almost as if we don’t have the 2nd best record in the AL.

      • Phil says:

        Just from my observation & aside from whatever the #’s might indicate, the Red Sox just seem to have a more potent offense than ours, & they seem to be killing just about every pitching staff they encounter. Ever since righting themselves following that terrible start they had, they’ve just about been blowing the doors off of everything they encounter. Just my opinion, but the Sox seem more dangerous than the Yankee lineup, & at least up to this point in the season, they’ve obviously been raking our pitchers more consistently than we have theirs. Should be interesting to see how our hitters fare against them in the remaining games we have against them.

        I see us making post-season as a wildcard, but the starting pitching will decide how deep we travel in the post-season or how quickly we go home. They really need ONE other guy to really step forward & become a shutdown starter to go along w/CC, & if they get him or he steps up or comes forward, I’m ok w/that & Colon giving us a fair chance to win all the marbles.

        I’m a little bit worried about Mo as he’s 41+, basically sits at 91 mph now, may have trouble closing out 2 or more games in a row, & only has so many bullets left, although lord knows he’ll get juiced to pitch in games that give him the chance to win another ring.

        As for Cashman, I agree w/most above that unless there’s really a game changingt arm available, hold onto Montero & the other prospects no matter what, play the hand we’ve been dealt, & re-evaluate following the season on where the club stands.

        As far as the farm is concerned, I still wouldn’t give up on Brackman, but longterm, I’d really love to see the organization load up on & have far more high-upside arms throughout the system, but of course, that’s every baseball fans wish for their team.

    • Bob Stone says:

      I agree with your comments completely. I’m at 9 as well.

  9. Esteban says:

    On Boomer and Carton, there were some great trade proposals. One guy said the Yankees should trade for Michael Pineda (at least he said the Mariners wouldn’t trade King Felix. Progress!) and another guy said trade for Jason Isringhausen. I’m just not sure which one is less likely to happen.

    • The Big City of Dreams says:

      One guy said the Yankees should trade for Michael Pineda

      ——————————-

      SMH that’s the 2nd time someone has brought about acquiring Pineda… do fans even think before they speak? I’ll never forget when a Met fan called up pushing Beltran to the Yanks and the host mentioned Montero as a possible chip going to the Mets. WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf

  10. Lazy Bones Andruw Jones says:

    8

    Very good team, only Boston and Phillie are better imo. As constructed right now a deep playoff run rests on Colon’s arm.

    Also bunch of young players to be excited about – hopefully the Yanks hold on to them.

  11. Reggie C. says:

    8.

    Granderson is playing like a true Yankee. His game won’t garner him MVP votes from the writers but he’s separating himself from the pack as this lineup’s mvp.

  12. Bronx Byte says:

    Boston will see an early exit from the playoffs with the pitching they have. They’ve been lucky up to now but it’s only a matter of time before their bullpen gets overworked. No depth in their farm system. Beckett (for as long as his back holds up) and Lester are the only starters to have confidence in. Lackey ? Wakefield ? Aceves ? Miller ? Expect them to take a tumble into reality.

    • Hester Prynne says:

      Beckett, Lester, Bucholz is better than our 1-2-3, better than Texas, Cleveland, Detroit. Their 4th is Lackey who will match up against other team’s #4. Injuries can happen to any team, including our current #2 starter Bartolo Colon.

      • Jim S says:

        I think it’s overly optimistic for anyone to be counting on Bucholz at this point, especially as a #3.

        • Jim S says:

          Qualifier on Buchholz: Only meant as far as this year is concerned. Talk about mystery injuries.

        • pat says:

          Yeah Bsoton media is talking about how Buchholz might not even be back at all this year.

        • CP says:

          How long will Beckett’s back hold up too?

          If you think Colon and Freddy are ticking time bombs, don’t neglect to mention that the Red Sox have some of their own.

  13. jsbrendog says:

    confidence to win the world series this year – 6.5

    confidence in the next 5+ years that the team will be there with a chance eveyr year and likely be better than this year’s team – 8.5

    even if only one of betances/banuelos becomes an above average ml pitcher and montero sticks around and hits half to 2/3 as well as he is advertised then this team will have money to sign a huge star free agent pitcher a la cc to go with cc and one of the bs and montero. i like the future of this club as it stands right now and i don’t think they should risk another dynastic run of dominance for a shot to bring a slightly above average overall team closer to a ws that they might not win this yr.

    fin.

  14. LarryM.,Fl. says:

    I have selected 8 as my confidence level. To make it short and sweet, I believe the Yankees have enough roster power and talent to make the playoffs. I don’t feel confident with the Yanks getting past the ALCS if Boston is the opponent. The only reason is after CC there is no strong number 2 or reliable 3. All the bullpen help means nothing if its empty every night against playoff teams.

    I believe Cashman is doing every thing possible at this time to get a starter but the costs are prohibitive to the Yanks and reasonable to everyone else IMHO. On another note Ubaldo took a good spanking last night against the powerhouse D’Backs.

    • Ted Nelson says:

      “but the costs are prohibitive to the Yanks and reasonable to everyone else IMHO”

      ???

      • LarryM.,Fl. says:

        Yankees seem to pay a premium above what other teams pay in exchange of players.

        • Ted Nelson says:

          I think that’s more of our own bias. We are familiar with Yankees’ prospects and have high hopes for them; however, when similar prospects from other organizations are traded we don’t generally know as much about them and assume that like all prospects their chances of making it aren’t that great.

          Take the Haren deal… a lot of people crush Cashman for not trading Joba for Haren, without realizing that Joba was about the equivalent of Saunders and to match Skaggs about the only young pitcher the Yankees had/have is Banuelos. Joba, Banuelos, and maybe more for Haren looks a lot worse than Joba for Haren (at that point one could argue either way…), but that’s what the Angels basically paid.

          Or the Greinke deal. Escobar was a top 15 BA prospect at SS having just finished his rookie year… about comparable to Jesus Montero really. Odorizzi is roughly similar to a Betances. Jeffress is a good young reliever who could maybe be compared to a Joba or Robertson before the season. And Cain is a serviceable young OF prospect… maybe not quite Nunez since he plays SS, but probably more attractive than any Yankee AAA OF entering the season.

    • Ted Nelson says:

      “On another note Ubaldo took a good spanking last night against the powerhouse D’Backs.”

      On another note… Felix gave up 6 ER in 6.1 IP against the Red Sox.

      • LarryM.,Fl. says:

        Felix was apparently not being offered to the Yanks and Ubaldo was or is being offered. This is reference to cashman looking for starting pitching and Ubaldo may have some red flags trapped on his arms. He is signed to a club friendly contract.

  15. first time lawng time says:

    I’ll be honest, right now I feel Boston would eat the Yankees in a potential ALCS.

    However, I also feel that it is way too early to determine how a potential ALCS would go or even who is likely to win the WS. Anything could happen between now and October. Yankees could make a good trade; Boston could make a stellar trade; maybe Beckett could get a linedrive back to the head or CC could do something and be injured the rest of the season.

    I will try not to make any predicrions as to who would win an ALCS match up(if there is one)

  16. CMP says:

    8 for the future, 6 for this year.

    They still have no one who should be starting a postseason game behind CC and Colon (if he holds up, god willing) and it doesn’t look like that’s gonna change.

    • David, Jr. says:

      http://www.baseball-reference......ba01.shtml

      Bart is one of my favorite Yankees. Would love to see him hold up all the way through, but look at his innings pitched since 2006.

      • CMP says:

        I know. He’s been awesome this year and his 2 seamer has been just ridiculous this year but it’s hard to envision him pitching another 80+ regular season innings and postseason innings.

      • Ted Nelson says:

        His stem cell procedure is fairly unprecedented as far as I know, so that makes it pretty hard to predict how his arm will hold up. If his shoulder is what’s been keeping him out all those years… well, he might basically have a new shoulder at this point. Hopefully the Yankees’ medical staff has at least somewhat of an idea… at least more than us.

  17. Pat D says:

    This from avowed Mariners fan David Schoenfield.

    “The Mariners have lost 15 straight. I was at Friday’s game at Fenway when Felix Hernandez pitched. The King was alternately frustrated and unfocused, but mostly he displayed an alarming amount of bad body language throughout the game. When the Mariners scored a run in the first and then the Red Sox tied it in the bottom of the inning on a Kevin Youkilis RBI single, Hernandez waited to cross paths with Youk after getting out of the inning. Both players smiled and laughed, as Hernandez probably said something to the extent of “Well, there’s the ballgame.” When Felix departed, not one player met him at the top of the dugout to shake his good or give him a pat on the back. It’s a bad situation in Seattle and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Mariners shop Hernandez around in the offseason.”

    Uh oh.

  18. yankee_lover says:

    hughes will b ok jus give him a lil bit of time

  19. Jimmy McNulty says:

    Still at a five. Hughes has me nervous, not only about this season but long term concerns about the team’s ability to develop starting pitching. The rotation is still kinda questionable going forward, I’d probably bump up a tick or so if they had a reliable capable number two starter.

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