Jul
17

Game 92: Escape from Toronto

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I’m really starting to dislike the Blue Jays. I hate the artificial surface in their stadium. I hate their good young pitching. I hate Jose Bautista when he’s playing against the Yankees. I hate crappy little Aaron Hill, who seemingly accumulates his entire .276 wOBA against the Yankees. I hate Edwin Encarnacion making diving stops he has no business making. I hate Travis Snider’s mustache. I hate that Jose Molina for turning into a .300 hitter. I hate Rajai Davis for stealing four bases a game. I hate Shawn Camp’s changeup. I hate that they were able to dump $160M or so of Alexis Rios and Vernon Wells. And more than anything, I hate that they’re starting to become a legitimate contender. They’ve got talent in the big leagues, talent coming up in the minors, and ownership can definitely afford to up payroll. Rogers Communications is like Verizon plus AT&T plus Sprint combined. There’s something like eight million people in Toronto and the surrounding areas. That team is a sleeping giant. That’s why I hate them. Here’s the lineup…

Brett Gardner, LF
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, DH
Robinson Cano, 2B
Nick Swisher, RF
Jorge Posada, 1B
Russell Martin, C
Eduardo Nunez, SS
Ramiro Pena, 3B

Phil Hughes, SP

First pitch is scheduled for a little after 1pm ET, and the game can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Roster Move: Chris Dickerson has been recalled, I assume in favor of Greg Golson. That’s weird, why didn’t they just call up Dickerson in the first place? The ten day rule didn’t apply because of Alex Rodriguez‘s injury.

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  1. Mike HC says:

    As heard on the Yankees on deck show, it seems fitting that ARod’s favorite movie is Wall Street and loves Michael Douglass in particular. And people wonder why he is not more well liked.

  2. Pat D says:

    No shout out for T-Mobile. The merger isn’t complete yet!!

    • Pat D says:

      Would you be really mad at me if I told you I owned the old Blue Jays cap?

      • That old cap is actually pretty okay, by itself. And it’s gained in value now that it has nostalgia going for it. (Like how, as a Jets fan, I love the old blue-and-gold New York Titans throwbacks, because they’re, you know, throwbacks. At the time, though, they weretres-bland. History makes the ugly look cool, in small doses.)

        But, hats aside, the Jays uniforms suck. Always have. This current italicized font iteration with heapings of superfluous black is the worst of the bunch, though.

        • Pat D says:

          I kinda always liked the powder blues with the lines running through their numbers. At least when they brought them back as throwbacks the last few years, they went all powder blue, as it should have been, unlike the Royals who just used the powder blue tops with white pants, which looks terrible.

          I also own the hat because I’m trying to have every hat that Dave Winfield wore in his career. Which means I have to buy a California Angels hat, now that they finally have the right one available to buy. At least it’s not all red like the current team.

    • Could be worse and be a Chief Wahoo hat.

  3. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    4 more games on turf. The lineups the next few days will be…different. Goddamn turf.

  4. Favrest says:

    I think Dickerson is either bad or average at everything. Golson can run, bunt and play major league defense. Girardi made a poor choice there.

  5. John Kruk, BBTN, July 16th, 2011, on what teams (besides the Yankees or Red Sox) could pursue a trade for Ubaldo Jimenez:

    Kruk: It would be an interesting thing if teams like Minnesota or Detroit—now, Verlander, Scherzer, great pitchers, but if you can get that three-headed monster with Ubaldo Jimenez to go with those two; and Minnesota has never, EVER had a guy who you could look and say, “Okay, he’s the ace of our staff,” if they can get into the postseason, that’s where—to me, that’s where they’ve struggled, they haven’t had that lockdown guy, not that Ubaldo could be that lockdown guy, who knows, you know, the questions are still out there, but if he went to Minnesota, that’d be an interesting… way for this division to shape out the rest of the season.

    Johan Santana, 2004-2008: 134 starts, 912.1 IP (6.80 IP/S), 2.89 ERA (155 ERA+), 4.96 K/BB, 0.990 WHIP, 70-32
    Johan Santana, 2004 and 2006 playoffs: 3 starts (all ALDS), 20.0 IP (6.66 IP/S), 1.35 ERA, 4.00 K/BB, 1.200 WHIP, 1-1

  6. Mike HC says:

    Nunez at short, Pena at third and Posada at 1st. And on the turf. This could get interesting.

  7. Dela G says:

    LETS GO YANKEES!

  8. pete says:

    the bottom of the line-up is weak……the infield defense is already leaking and the game hasn’t started…..phil hughes is pitching……a big question will be, when pena or nunez make their daily error(s) will it cost the yankees a run(s)……negative comments? NO, just observant……but i will still be watching, and hoping

  9. King George says:

    SI_JonHeyman: #rox match well w/ #yankees. they like montero. but yanks wont include banuelos, betances or nova, 2. story soon on si.com
    43 minutes ago

    Why won’t they part with any of the latter three? Don’t let this be a repeat of the Haren situation from last year, Cash. Please. Overvaluing Nova, ManBan, or Betances should not be impeding this deal.

  10. Dela G says:

    I hope beckett gets destroyed against the rays

    • Pat D says:

      I hope he somehow reaggravates his knee injury, only this time in the “totally shredded to pieces” variety.

  11. Monteroisdinero says:

    No Golson? That sucks. He is better than Dickerson. Faster/younger/better arm/better defender/better hitting stats this year at SWB and a first round draft choice! (#21 overall by the Phillies in 2004).

    Oh well, I have to change my comment from Golson in/we win Mitre in/we lose to.. Dickerson in/we win

    hopefully

  12. JG233 says:

    Pena and Nunez playing on the left side…over/under on unearned runs is 3

  13. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    nice AB

  14. Cy Pettitte says:

    BG: leadoff man

  15. Cuso says:

    Wow, the stands are ghost in Toronto today. looks like less than 25k.

  16. Dela G says:

    Gardner is trying his damn hardest to save my fantasy team

  17. Monteroisdinero says:

    Arencibia throwing from his knees-I don’t think so.

  18. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    It’s as good as a bunt!

    Girardi’d

  19. Cuso says:

    that was a weird AB by Grandy. Haven’t seem him swing at bad pitches above the strike zone all year.

    below the zone, sure.

    but rarely high pitches.

  20. Mike HC says:

    Pitch around Tex to get to Cano? I don’t think so. Or just stupid.

  21. Dela G says:

    smart move holding gritster there

    good job cano

  22. Cuso says:

    GIDP, you know it

  23. karel capek says:

    A David Cone Haiku

    David Cone is God.
    Looks like Buster Keaton? Yes.
    Okie Dokie, Ken.

  24. Mike Axisa says:

    Bah, turf sped that up. Gardner scores on grass.

  25. Ivan says:

    Yeah you must really hit the ball so hard that Brett Gardner can’t even score.

  26. pete says:

    please no DP

  27. Monteroisdinero says:

    Singy makes mistakes announcing but I like this duo. So nice to not hear Kay.

  28. Mike HC says:

    We are hitting the ball too hard.

  29. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Stop hitting rockets, Yankees!

  30. Monteroisdinero says:

    Nice ab Swish. Let’s get a bunch for Phil.

  31. Mike Axisa says:

    What the hell is that “pfffft” sounds with each pitch? Sounds like air slowly being let out of a balloon.

  32. teddy says:

    i want a real dh

  33. Dela G says:

    martin with the porn stache, and then makes the out :(

  34. pete says:

    wasted opportunity

  35. YankeesJunkie says:

    Martin rocketed that ball.

  36. wow says:

    holy crap russel martin. so many things wrong with him right now.

  37. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    1R in that inning = Fail

  38. Kostas says:

    1 run… bases loaded. fail.

    With Hughes on the mound, they needed 2 more runs that inning as cushion

  39. Mike HC says:

    Is this the new delivery? Looks a little bit like the old one.

    Curve looked good.

  40. YankeesJunkie says:

    The curve looks pretty sharp with a little more velocity.

  41. Monteroisdinero says:

    Phil!!!!!!!!

  42. IRF says:

    Curve already looks sharper than it has since ’07

  43. Mike Axisa says:

    What is that, a curveball? I approve.

  44. YankeesJunkie says:

    That was pretty ridiculous.

  45. Jonathan Harker says:

    He looks much better already. Go Phil!

  46. Cy Pettitte says:

    HUUUUUUUUUGHES!!

  47. Cuso says:

    He’s throwing strikes withthe hook. Very good sign.

    That fastball still looks extremely hittable, though.

  48. Monteroisdinero says:

    Phil loses the spike.
    This we like.

    Great having Coney dissect pitching.

  49. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Phil has a good curve today

  50. YankeesJunkie says:

    PATHETIC!

    /Overreaction’d

  51. Jonathan Harker says:

    This ump ain’t good. Missed two strikes for Phil.

  52. YankeesJunkie says:

    Really tight strike zone for Phil. Three pretty solid pitches right there.

  53. Monteroisdinero says:

    Waiting to see a 3rd pitch from Phil. Maybe next inning.

  54. wow says:

    Hughes lookin’ sharp.

  55. Ivan says:

    Not a bad inning. Hughes is still in the crawling process.

  56. YankeesJunkie says:

    Pretty solid inning. Nice to see him use the curve on a 3-2 count. Only thing missing would be to see a few change ups later in the game.

  57. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    AL West

    All Star Game’d

  58. Urban says:

    I sometimes wonder if Eduardo Nunez will be the first player ever to make a fielding error while at bat?

  59. Monteroisdinero says:

    So is Ramiro the Mitre of our non-pitching roster?

  60. Pat D says:

    Kenny hopes ARod is “resting comfortably?”

    It’s not like he had heart surgery.

  61. Mike HC says:

    Pena has definitely gotten a bit more powerful at the plate.

  62. CBean says:

    Running errands so can’t watch the game. Following on at-bat. How is Hughes looking?

  63. Monteroisdinero says:

    Gardy would have had a triple yesterday if slow Andruw hadn’t blocked his progress.

  64. teddy says:

    son of a bitch can’t catch a break

  65. Ivan says:

    Ugh, a good throw get him.

  66. Pat D says:

    Am I the only one who doesn’t think that Gardner’s arm is that good?

    • YankeesJunkie says:

      Its average, but he can’t get up on the ball quickly so that helps him out.

    • It’s not that good in that his flat-footed throws (i.e., nothing but raw arm strength) are pretty pedestrian.

      Gardner does a great job of almost never throwing flat-footed, though, he rounds or charges his routes quite well to frequently use his momentum to increase his raw armspeed. He’s also become very accurate, and accuracy is a great substitution for brute strength as well.

      He’s a very smart thrower.

  67. Jonathan Harker says:

    What the hell is Phil doing? When Martin says UP throw it UP!

  68. YankeesJunkie says:

    Phil has to keep that fastball down.

  69. Pat D says:

    Now Gardner’s being assertive?

  70. Mike HC says:

    Never again will Gardner allow Nunez to take a pop up after the play Nunez made the other day.

  71. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    That’s right Brett. Never let Nunez field a ball if you don’t have to.

  72. teddy says:

    inexcuseable

  73. Tom Zig says:

    How do you let Travis Snider steal a base?

  74. Dela G says:

    lol grabbing a candy bar from a drug store?

    cone, loves his thieves

  75. YankeesJunkie says:

    That curve has potential to be a strike out pitch.

  76. Zach says:

    On MLB. It looks like the ump is not calling the low striks for either pitcher. Is that true?

  77. Jerome S. says:

    I still would rather have Hughes than Nova.

    I’ll wait for someone to contest this seemingly obvious factoid.

  78. YankeesJunkie says:

    My heart stopped for a second.

  79. Cy Pettitte says:

    if he can mix in a good change with the curve Phil will be set.

  80. Dela G says:

    the grandyman can’t hit the change

  81. Dela G says:

    lol that was a funny pitch

  82. AnthonyNH says:

    juuuuuuuuust a bit outside

  83. wow says:

    find a hole

  84. teddy says:

    8 straight retired. the only reason redsox are in first place, cause their offense is far better than yanks

  85. Dela G says:

    Kim not lookin good today

  86. IRF says:

    At least hes getting some swings and misses

  87. Mike HC says:

    “You gotta have an edge”

    Was Singleton mocking Jeter there?

  88. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Fail…

  89. Dela G says:

    hahahahahahaha HILARIOUS!!!

  90. YankeesJunkie says:

    Web Gem!!! That was awesome.

  91. Mike Axisa says:

    Jorge stepped on the base, why the need to apply the tag?

  92. Pat D says:

    He didn’t tag him with the ball either!!!!

  93. Jetrer says:

    the umpire is a moron
    the runner was out as soon as Posada stepped on the base
    no need for the tag

  94. Jonathan Harker says:

    Posada missed the tag too! Play should still be going on.

  95. AnthonyNH says:

    I think Phil looks pretty good. He would look great if he could consistently locate that fastball, but I think that’s the case with 90% of pitchers

  96. tom says:

    I’ve watched baseball alot of years, and I don’t remember seeing a runner miss first.

  97. teddy says:

    posada hit that well, 1 at bat too late

  98. AnthonyNH says:

    Be more patient yankees! More like the first inning, less like the second.

  99. Dela G says:

    Russell the MUSCLE!!!

  100. Dela G says:

    I love Nunez’s swing. Reminds me of frank thomas tomahawk

  101. Jetrer says:

    hitting the ball too hard today

  102. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    First pitch swinging with good results

  103. pete says:

    nunez needs to steal 2nd base right now

  104. teddy says:

    nice job by martin and nunez, lets go pena

  105. Jonathan Harker says:

    Nunez knows how to hit a baseball. Great talent.

  106. CP says:

    The power of the ‘stache!

  107. Dela G says:

    damn, pena hit that ball super far

  108. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Pena being productive!

  109. teddy says:

    damm pena he hit both of these balls well good job pena

  110. CP says:

    This would be a nice time for a drag bunt down the first base line…

  111. AnthonyNH says:

    go nuneeeeeeee go!

  112. Pat D says:

    David Cone for Marty Janzen, Jason Jarvis and Mike Gordon.

    One of the best Yankees trades ever.

  113. Dela G says:

    Grit Gutner!

    Killin it

  114. Jerome S. says:

    Brett Gardner is good at baseball.

  115. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    If Granderson doesn’t fake bunt, pull back, then hit a triple off the left field wall, then score on a throwing error, I’ll be kind of disappointed.

  116. Dela G says:

    Grandyman!!

    Fuck yeah!

  117. Mike Axisa says:

    Threw him one too many changeups.

  118. Jetrer says:

    I love speed

  119. Karl Krawfid says:

    Grandy maine

  120. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    The Grandyman can and does

  121. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Thank you, Grandy. My fantasy (team) needed that. Much love, bro.

  122. Granderson Alpine Laced™ that one.

    #productplacement
    #sponsorshipdollars

  123. Jonathan Harker says:

    There’s the big hit we needed! Some nice breathing room for Phil. Great adjustment by Grandy.

  124. AnthonyNH says:

    Curtis, sitting on the changeup 3-2. I love it.

  125. IRF says:

    David Cone= Nostradamus

  126. Ivan says:

    Nice!!!!!!

    /Fabolous’d

  127. Dela G says:

    Tex, king of popups

  128. teddy says:

    GRANDERSON!!!!!!!!!!!! gardner is good at baseball

  129. Cuso says:

    LMAO. Coney has his iphone text-msg set ti ‘chime.’

    he just got a text that said ‘nice call,’ i bet

  130. Pat D says:

    10 upcoming home games against Oakland, Seattle and Baltimore, eh? Now I know that those teams have some good pitchers, but those games frankly scream “need to win 7 or 8.”

  131. Greg says:

    Is Phil throwing a lot of 2 seamers?

  132. I can’t stop seeing “Irish Terry Conklin” talking about wanting to eradicate the homelessness situation when Travis Snider steps up to the plate.

  133. Cuso says:

    En-carn-ah-she-hoochie-mama.

    Grow up, Kenny/Coney, geez!

    :)

  134. Ivan says:

    Wow, that could of been dangerous.

  135. pete says:

    straight 91-92 fastball = bad things

  136. Greg says:

    He still doesn’t look comfortable out there. I’d have him go 5 and go to Noesi.

  137. What kind of shoes is Phil wearing? I don’t think I’ve seen a pair of shoes with an X on the heel before.

  138. tom says:

    Okay, so today Gardner looks like the ideal leadoff guy. But two weeks ago, he was death warmed over at the plate. This year, at least, he seems to be an extreme streak hitter.

    Question: is that the guy you want in leadoff all the time?

    • Jetrer says:

      if the other option is a hitter who is consistently mediocre, then yes

      • tom says:

        Please — for once, skip the Jeter Is the Suck. I’m asking a general question.

        • Jetrer says:

          Ideally you would have all hitters be consistently great. That doesn’t happen. Given the choice between consistently mediocre (Jeter or anyone else who fits that description) or streaky and better, I’ll take streaky and better. All hitters are streaky to some extent anyways. If the Yankees had somebody that was more consistently better than Gardner, I would take that, but they don’t.

    • Jerome S. says:

      Yes. Streakiness IS baseball, consistency is extremely rare. Gardner I feel is good much more often than he is bad, and he is occasionally great.

      The glove is also a constant, just as an aside.

      • tom says:

        Not questioning Gardner’s overall value. Just, everyone here has been so adamant he ought to be leading off, but there are times he’s going to kill the team in that spot.

        • There are times when every hitter will kill every team in every spot. That’s Jerome’s point, and it’s correct.

          • tom says:

            I understand slumps, but Gardner’s streakiness has seemed extreme to me. That doesn’t matter on paper — he’ll always average out to a solid season. But in reality, having a player — in a key offensive spot — fail repeatedly and predictably over an extended period seems is something could hurt a team more than what shows on paper overall.

            • Jetrer says:

              the flip side is when he is hot he will greatly help the team more than what would show up overall

            • I understand slumps, but Gardner’s streakiness has seemed extreme to me.

              Is it, though? Gardner seems streakier to you than a normal ballplayer.

              To me, Gardner seems just as streaky as any other ballplayer. Until someone pulls some stats, we may have to agree to disagree.

              • tom says:

                You’re right, it is just from observation, not rigorous stat compilation, so it may be less of an issue than I think. It’s certainly felt extreme, though.

                And, again, this is not meant as a knock on Gardner (or, god forbid, a defense of Jeter). I was just wondering in general if extreme streak hitting was a liability at leadoff.

        • Mike HC says:

          I don’t mind Jeter leading off at all, but the combination of Gardner’s on base percentage and speed makes him a pretty decent candidate to lead off. His apparent streakiness is not not enough to take away from those other two skills, in my opinion.

  139. teddy says:

    well i think hughes will get sharper once he can stay on rotation. 2 more innings please

  140. Jerome S. says:

    Hughes shaky, decent.

  141. AnthonyNH says:

    Okay Phil. Could have been worse. Settle down.

  142. Ivan says:

    Holy Crap, that was a fucking bomb by Berkman sheeesh.

  143. teddy says:

    cano lately has missed a lot of fastball lately

  144. AnthonyNH says:

    Cano isn’t getting on top of those inside fastballs like he did last year.

  145. tom says:

    If balls had fallen in for the Yankees today, this would be a blowout.

    How does Villanueva have such a low ERA?

  146. Mike HC says:

    Turns out Ted Williams was wrong.

  147. Cuso says:

    Swisher is gonna get run today

  148. Ivan says:

    LMAOOOOO @ Kenny saying “Can I finish this story please” as Jorge poped the ball up.

  149. AnthonyNH says:

    Okay Phil, we need a 123

  150. Pat D says:

    Pena reminding us he is a good fielder.

  151. Ivan says:

    Hey a 6 pitch inning.

  152. Jerome S. says:

    Oh, I get it now. Buster Olney’s job is to suck the Red Sox dick.

  153. Jonathan Harker says:

    Phil’s mowing them down. Let him go one more.

  154. pete says:

    phil is catching a bit of a break today with Bautista out…….which leads me to this…..has anyone noticed that in the first 6 years of his career he was hitting a homer every 30-32 at bats, and since last year hes got that down to 1 every 12-13 at bats?……hmmmmmmm, whats up with that?

    • Pat D says:

      Obviously it’s PED’s, because there isn’t testing for them.

      • Mike Axisa says:

        It’s a super PED that turns crappy players into awesome players and is completely undetectable, and he’s not giving any to his crappy teammates because he hates winning.

        • Ted Nelson says:

          Barry Bonds was almost definitely on PEDs and that didn’t mean that the rest of the Giants hit well…

          Acting like Bautista is definitely clean is as foolish as acting like he’s definitely dirty.

      • pete says:

        do you really think the PED wizards cant cook something up that isnt detectable yet?…..lets face it, the numbers i quoted have only been duplicated by the brady andersons, brett boones and luis gonzalez’s of the past……please dont allow yourself to be naive……ive noticed big papi in boston has also had a miraculous resurgence over the past year and a half……i’m jusy sayin’

    • Greg says:

      Bautista really did nothing in the first game and the Blue Jays scored 14 runs. They’re a damn good offense.

      • Rick says:

        Eh, they’re an ok offense, but the 14 runs was more a case of Colon pitching like he was hurt + getting the chance to hit for 22 outs against the soft underbelly of the bullpen.

    • AnthonyNH says:

      It’s steroids. Is that what you’re looking for?

    • Mike HC says:

      I think everybody has realized that. And most everybody has also realized that everyone else is doing the same shit as well. Some even upping the ante to stem cells.

      • Ted Nelson says:

        Are stem cells really upping the ante? I am no expert on either PEDs or stem cells, but having your own cells injected into an injured area by a Dr. seems a lot more defensible than having your lifting buddy stick a needle of ‘roids into your butty.

        • Mike HC says:

          20 years from now, the current version of PED’s will be history, and things like taking stem cells from one part of your body, and injecting them into another will be more prevalent. Or maybe 100 years from now when people are part machine.

    • Jerome S. says:

      Well, for one, he changed his swing. Second, I know what you’re intimating. He gets tested for steroids, like everyone else; he’s clean. His body hasn’t changed, and neither has his game (baserunning, defense et. al), at least not in a way that’s indicative of PED’s. I was once skeptical, but the only way to end the dark era of PED’s is to believe in stories like Bautista. It’s what makes baseball great.

      • Pat D says:

        This.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          I like my super undetectable steroid theory better.

          • Pat D says:

            I didn’t know what you meant, then I scrolled up and saw your theory.

            I have to say that it’s brilliant.

          • Ted Nelson says:

            Yeah, because drug tests are 100% accurate and all…

          • pete says:

            youre “super PED” theory is stupid for two reasons…..PED’s never turns crappy players into awesome ones, (it enables players to increase their rate of production, sometimes dramatically), and two, even in the steroid era, players who were using wouldnt go around the clubhouse advertising that they were so other teammates could partake also…..dont be stupid

            • Pat D says:

              Sarcasm detector broken?

              • Ted Nelson says:

                The veil of sarcasm covered an assertion that Bautista is definitely not taking steroids… which is as ridiculous as asserting that he definitely is. I also thought it was a poor point by Mike.

            • Jerome S. says:

              Logic has defeated you.

              • pete says:

                and by the way….youre earlier post where you said “bautista changed his swing”?…….wow, i guess mickey mantle should have “changed his swing”…maybe he could have hit 80 homers a year……lets get francisco cervelli to change his swing also…yep thats it, powerless guys just need to change their swing…..shit, why didnt i think of that?

                • Jerome S. says:

                  That’s not how it works. You are surely smart enough to see the error in this thinking.

                  • pete says:

                    yes, you are correct, i am smart enough to see the error in YOUR thinking……you DO NOT increase your rate of homers per at bat by 3 to 1 by changing your swing

                    • Jerome S. says:

                      Yes, you can.

                      However, juicing really doesn’t help you that much.

                    • Xstar7 says:

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ata_player

                      Also, when you say “You DO NOT increase your rate of homers per at bat by changing your swing”, have you seen Curtis Granderson since last August? He must be on steroids too right?

                    • Ted Nelson says:

                      “However, juicing really doesn’t help you that much.”

                      Really… guys putting up the best power numbers of all time on PEDs was just a coincidence? McGwire, Sosa, Bonds would have all hit just as many bombs with 1/2 the muscle mass?

                    • Jerome S. says:

                      I didn’t mean it quite like that. Lemme rephrase myself. McGwire, Sosa and Bonds were all pretty good to great players to begin with. The PED’s amplified what they already had. Bautista was a freakin’ utility player. He hardly had any baseball skills at all. And now he’s playing like a roided Bonds.

                    • Mike Axisa says:

                      Bautista did hit 24 homers in the minors one year, it’s not like he never ever hit for power.

                    • Ted Nelson says:

                      Jerome… the thing is that it’s not an either/or thing. Bautista could have changed his swing AND taken PEDs (or not). That he changed his swing seems pretty undeniable, but it doesn’t really speak to whether he or not he’s taken/is taking PEDs.

    • Rainbow Connection says:

      It’s not like Granderson has had a sudden, severe increase in HR’s or anything.

      • pete says:

        he hasnt…..do the numbers before you post….bautistas increase is certifiable

      • Ted Nelson says:

        Granderson’s SLG is actually pretty in line with 2007, but he might be taking PEDs… sure. Any MLB player might be.

        Most people seem to feel the need to either assume no one is using or assume everyone who produces is. I personally prefer more of a wait-and-see, grey area approach: they all might be, and hopefully MLB is rigorous enough about their testing programs to expose the ones who are. Not too much sense in worrying about it really. If I was going to worry about anything it would simply be that MLB is on top of things and that their tests keep up with PED technology.

        • Ted Nelson says:

          … and when I say keep-up with PED technology I assume there’s going to be a lag time where testing might be behind new technologies and techniques.

  155. Cuso says:

    Villeneuva has been the beneficiary of several called strikes well off both sides of the plate.

  156. Pat D says:

    Soccer game about to start.

    I think the U.S. needs to be aggressive early and get a lead.

  157. Cuso says:

    Nunie is being cooky this at-bat

    /scoobydoo’d

  158. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Uh oh. It’s Rookie We’ve Never Seen Before tomorrow.

  159. Ivan says:

    That 2nd pitch was a strike IMO.

  160. Cuso says:

    that’s like the 3rd pirouette Swisher has done out there today

    idiot

  161. Tom Zig says:

    More runs please. Put this baby to bed.

  162. Ivan says:

    80 pitches through 6. I guess the last 2 innings when you throw a combined 14 pitches, it can sure help your pitch count.

  163. Tom Zig says:

    Pretty sure Hughes has thrown more curveballs today than he has all season. See what happens when you throw something other than a 4-seamer and below average cutter?

  164. AnthonyNH says:

    Brett the Jet!

  165. AnthonyNH says:

    Cano had that home run swing. It’s gone in New York.

  166. teddy says:

    damm cano just missed it

  167. Mike HC says:

    Gotta love Cone calling out the Yanks pitching coach about over coaching in between innings.

  168. Cuso says:

    I wish Cano would get back to his 2010 approach.

    he’s still really good…..

    …but he should be great.

  169. Ivan says:

    I personally would of gave Hughes an extra inning but I understand their decision.

  170. teddy says:

    really giradri. 80 pitchees

  171. Drew says:

    wtf does Girardi ever plan to ever use Hughes more than 80 pitches? This is fucking ridiculous.

  172. Greg says:

    I agree. Let Hughes go out on a positive note. Dont destroy his confidence.

    • Greg says:

      I agree with taking him out.

    • whozat says:

      he’d just navigated the heart of the order and thrown a total of 15 pitches in the last two innings. Gotta stretch that arm all the way out sometime…4 runs isn’t enough of a lead?

      • Greg says:

        If he starts giving up runs, then the whole goodwill form this start is wasted ala A.J. Burnett against the Indians.

      • Ted Nelson says:

        I’ll take Rothschild and Girardi’s knowledge on stretching pitchers out over whozat’s…

        This was Hughes second decent start of the season. His first time going over 5 IP. You are being really impatient to worry about whether he came out for the 7th.

        As much crap as the Yankees have taken for being too aggressive with their pitchers and Hughes especially… now they are taking crap for being patient with him. They literally cannot win with fans. Someone will criticize them no matter what they do. It gets hard to take people’s criticism seriously when they constantly cry wolf over marginal things.

    • Drew says:

      I completely disagree. Giaradi needs to build up his arm strength. What happens next time out when the Yankees don’t score 6 runs for him in the game and needs to go out there for the 7th inning? He arm isn’t being conditioned to go more than 80 pitches. This situation is about stress free as it can get for a starting pitcher. This makes zero sense to take him out of the game especially against the bottom part of the lineup.

  173. Greg says:

    Stop questioning Girardi’s moves unless they are really egriegous. This one is not.

  174. AnthonyNH says:

    Cory Wade is good.

  175. Ted Nelson says:

    Well at least the sky seems to have stopped falling for now…

  176. Jonathan Harker says:

    This is only Phil’s 2nd start back. Do you want him to throw 110 pitches? They’re taking it easy and that’s the right thing to do. Girardi knows how to manage his pitchers.

  177. Rainbow Connection says:

    Did they mention why Martin is growing a terrible mustache? Did he lose a bet?

  178. Cuso says:

    OH MAN!!! LOL!!

    Russell’s moustache is getting filthy!

    awesome!

  179. Jonathan Harker says:

    Kenny and Coney for another series in Tampa. YES made a great decision cutting down on Flaherety and giving us more Cone.

  180. Cuso says:

    Why was that 1-0 curve not a strike? it was all day for Villeneuva.

  181. Jerome S. says:

    Why use D-Rob here? 4-run lead with two innings to go… I would stick with someone else. Oh well, not really abig deal.

  182. Pat D says:

    0-0 at halftime of the soccer game, for those who are interested.

  183. OldYanksFan says:

    Any concensus on how Phil pitched?

  184. Monteroisdinero says:

    Did Phil throw anything other than a fb and curve? I didn’t see anything else in the first 4 innings.

  185. Monteroisdinero says:

    can we please bat Gardy leadoff? Every game? it is post 3K now.

  186. nathan says:

    TBS is showing the Phils-Mets game. Its so jarring to hear “New York comes to bat after the break” Mets are not New York :P

  187. Cuso says:

    Cano has completely gotten away from taking those outside fastballs the other way.

    he’s trying to pull every fastball he sees for a homer

  188. CBean says:

    wow, Boone Logan strikes out the side.

  189. Cy Pettitte says:

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE strikes out the side

  190. Xstar7 says:

    USA! USA! It’s about time they got on the board.

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