Saturday Night Open Thread

Yankees unlikely to trade for Mike Adams
Rally(ies) fall short as Yanks fall to A's
That one hit off the facing of the upper deck.

The Yankees lost today, waaa waaa waaa, but let’s forget about it and enjoy the night. Use this thread to talk about anything you want, but it’s a fine night to forget about baseball and instead chill with friends and fam.

DotF Note: Sorry folks, no DotF tonight. Instead, I leave you with links to the box scores/scoreboard to peruse at your leisure…

Triple-A Scranton
Double-A Trenton
High-A Tampa
Low-A Charleston
Short Season Staten Island
Rookie GCL Yankees

Yankees unlikely to trade for Mike Adams
Rally(ies) fall short as Yanks fall to A's
  • dan

    Looks like somebody’s getting wasted tonight

    • Pat D

      Amy Winehouse?

      (crickets chirp)
      (looks around)

      Too soon, eh?

      • Steve H

        I laughed.

  • teddy

    i want montero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Monteroisdinero

      It’s like wanting dinero. Understandable.

  • mj

    Hey mike out of all the draft picks which one do you think should be the most important one to sign?

    • mbonzo

      Of the guys that are difficult to sign I think Jake Cave might have the highest ceiling.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Williams culver and gumbs the new core. Of ss 2b covered.

    • Gonzo

      I’d hope Tyler Austin can justify being on your list soon.

  • Brian S.

    Is it true that Dellin Betances got injured!? Is he okay!?

    • Steve S.

      Drats! IF we only had a Dot-F, we would know the answer to these vexing questions!

      (shakes fist) Damn you Axisa! Damn you and your bloody lot!

      • Pat D

        Fawlty Towers reference?

  • Charles R.

    Monster game from DBJ!

    • The Humongous


      • JobaWockeeZ

        Dante Bichette Jr.

        • The Humongous

          Ah, that makes much more sense.

  • Steve S.

    Don’t see anything about Dellin being hurt, but clearly the wheels came off for him in the 4th

    Bowie Bottom of the 4th

    LJ Hoes walks.
    Joe Mahoney flies out to center fielder Raymond Kruml.
    Steven Lerud homers (4) on a fly ball to center field. LJ Hoes scores.
    Brandon Waring homers (13) on a fly ball to left field.
    Greg Miclat walks.
    With Pedro Florimon Jr. batting, Greg Miclat steals (35) 2nd base.
    Pedro Florimon Jr. flies out to right fielder Zoilo Almonte.
    Ronnie Welty doubles (16) on a line drive to center fielder Raymond Kruml. Greg Miclat scores.
    Pitcher Change: Chase Whitley replaces Dellin Betances.

    • Brian S.

      mashmore98 Mike Ashmore
      Hoping whatever the situation with Dellin Betances is isn’t too serious. Leaving with the trainer is never a positive thing, of course..

      • Steve S.

        They said it was 101 degrees in Trenton this afternoon, and still in the mid 90s and very humid when Dellin left. He pitched like he was gassed, so the trainer probably wanted to get a read on him. I’ll assume that’s it until I hear otherwise.

    • JohnnyC

      Apparently Betances left due to the heat…and having already faced 8 batters in the inning.

  • Monteroisdinero

    But in other news, Montero (batting third which he will hopefully be doing for us in a few years) doubles in 3 and my man Golson triples. Of course, Goly has the advantage of batting in front of Montero.

  • mike_h

    anyone see a good ninja movie?

    • Brian S.

      They still make those?

    • The Humongous

      This is probably close enough.

    • first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

      Trick question. If you see a ninja then he’s clearly not good.


  • Brian S.

    How many 21 year old catchers at AAA have ever put up Montero’s numbers? Does anyone compare?

    • Steve S.

      This year? A lot. His RC+ is 103, which is barely above league average.

      • Jetrer

        Believe he was referring to 21 y.o. catchers only. Not many of those in AAA ball.

        • Steve S.

          I think that his age gets overplayed. His trend line is down for 3 straight years since destroying High A. As things currently stand, he’s looking at repeating AAA next year for the 3rd straight year, and there’s nothing to like about that.

      • Brian S.

        Also what he did last year at 20 shouldn’t be discounted. His overall AAA line as a 20/21 year old compared to other catchers his age in AAA.

        • Steve H

          Would be really nice if the 20 and 21 year old lines were reversed. If so, I wouldn’t be surprised if he were in NY already.

          • Steve S.

            I know our Catchers haven’t hit much, but I seriously doubt you’ll ever see Montero in pinstripes, except maybe as a September call up. He’ll either be traded in the next 9 days or in the off season. I can’t see them allowing him to do AAA a 3rd time.

            • The Humongous

              Awwww, it’s cute the hard on you’ve got for teh Jesus.

              You should wander on back over to BBTF, we’ve got questions about what passes for your “analysis” that you’ve shown no interest in beginning to answer.

              • Steve S.

                “We?” I don’t see anyone by your handle posting over there.

                • The Humongous

                  Well, as Majid said in Lawrence of Arabia, “that, is not an argument.”

                  But you’re welcome to keep trying …

                  • Steve S.

                    As soon as you offer something resembling a cogent rebuttal to anything I posted, I’ll be happy to answer you. So far, you haven’t.

                    • The Humongous

                      Why? You’re the one who completely failed to bother to provide an argument with any context.

            • bottom line

              Jeter spemt three seasons in AAA.

              • Steve S.
                • The Humongous

                  Though, to be actually accurate, Jeter was ticketed back to AAA for his 3rd year in a row, if it weren’t for the fact that Tony Fernandez picked up a serious injury in Spring Training ’96.

                  • MikeD

                    That’s really overstating it by quite a bit. For one thing, Jeter only had one full year at AAA, in 1995, and he also appeared on the Yankees that season. The prior year, 1994, he rose through three levels, A to AA to AAA, with only 126 ABs at AAA. The Yankees hoped he would make the team heading into 1996, and his performance that spring forced the Yankees hand as much, if not more so, than Fernandez’s injury. I believe Jeter would have made the team regardless. He had people strongly supporting him making the team that year, including Gene Michael.

                    Compare that to Montero ,who is now in his second full year in AAA, has yet to have a single day on the MLB roster, and as far as we can tell, almost all of the Yankee talent evaluators do not think he is ready. That’s the opposite of Jeter, who was widly regarded by the Yankee talent evaluators as being fully ready to make the team. And unlike Montero this Spring, Jeter did more than enough.

  • The Humongous

    Watching Rays vs Royals.

    Desmond Jennings scored from 1st on a ground ball to the outfield in the last inning.

    The hit was ruled a double, but with no one (or *anyone*) else on base it would have been a simple ground ball single past second into center.

    Jennings looked like GGBG with ACME “Rocket Shoes” strapped on.

  • teddy

    montero 1 for 3 double, bb , 3 rbi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jack Merridew

    The problem with expecting to gain ground during this home stretch is that Boston is playing the same poor quality teams and they find ways to win these close ballgames. We are now 12-15 in one run ballgames.

    Tampa is also feasting on poor competition. We better hope they stumble or we just might end up losing ground in both races. We don’t have Alex, Jeter’s hitting over .300 in July and Girardi still screwed with the lineup moving Cano all the way down to 5th. And AJ Burnett and Phil Hughes just shouldn’t be making playoff starts. We need help.

    • Craig

      Erík Bédard?

      • Pasqua

        Made of glass, and has also balked at playing in big markets. How you enter this profession and bitch about having to play in big markets is beyond me, but he has said it.

    • Steve H

      Most teams end up around .500 in 1 run games. That’s not too concerning for me.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Meh if they don’t do anything they are a playoff team and at that point it’s luck. Then try and get CJ Wilson and/or Edwin Jackson in FA and boom they’re back in business for the short term and the long term. Can’t win it every year.

      • FIPster Doofus

        Good assessment.

  • Steve S.

    Here’s the update on Betances. He went to cover Home plate after giving up the double to Welty. After the play he bent over, and the trainer came out and he left the game. Sounds like he was gassed between the long inning and the heat, which was 96 degrees and very humid at game time.

    • Voice of Reason

      Hit the gym, Dellin

  • Phife Dawg

    Lol, Mariners. They are so, so bad.

    • Pasqua

      And yet, the law of averages suggests that we won’t sweep them. My goodness, they have to get a win eventually…

      • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

        They can win tomorrow and then start another 14 game losing streak.

  • mbonzo

    Got your DOTF right here. I’m not touching High A Tampa, they had a delayed start and are still in the 5th. Sean Black got rocked in his first game since July 2nd, and Eric Chavez hit a homerun and walked so far.

    Triple-A Scranton (5-2 Win over Syracuse)
    Kevin Russo, LF: 2 for 4, 1 R, 1 2B, 1 K, 1 SB
    Greg Golson, CF, Jesus Montero, C: 1 for 3, Golson had 2 R, a triple, 1 RBI, 1 BB, 1 SO, Montero’s hit was a double, he also walked once, struck out once, and drove in 3.
    Jorge Vazquez, 1B, Luis Nunez, 2B: 0 for 3, Vazquez walked once and K’d twice, Nunez K’d once.
    Jordan Parraz, RF, Mike Lamb, 3B, P.J. Piliterre, DH: Parraz drove in a run and struck out once, Lamb twice, and Pilittere once.
    Doug Bernier, SS: 2 for 3, 2 R
    Greg Smith, LHP: 6.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 7 SO, 2 HR
    Buddy Carlyle, RHP: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 3 BB, 1 SO
    Randy Flores, LHP: 0.2 IP, Zeroes
    Kevin Whelan, RHP: 1.0 IP, Zeroes with 1 K

    Double-A Trenton (4-6 Lose to Bowie)
    Raymond Kruml, CF: 1 for 5, 1 2B, 2 Ks
    Corban Joseph, 2B: 0 for 5, 1 K, He’s in a slump, hitting .209 over his last 43 at bats.
    Austin Romine, C, Yadil Mujica, 3B: 0 for 4, Mujica struck out 3 times, Romine once but he also had a passed ball.
    Rob Lyerly, 1B: 2 for 4, 1 R, 1 SO, 1 HR, 1 E, Hitting .461 over his last 26 ABs with 2 HRs and 4 doubles.
    Melky Mesa, DH: 0 for 2, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 SO
    Zoilo Almonte, RF: 1 for 2, 2 R, 2 BB
    Jose Pirela, SS: 0 for 3, 1 RBI, 1 SO, 1 E (24th of the year)
    Damon Sublett, LF: 3 for 4, 1 2B, 1 RBI
    Dellin Betances, RHP: 3.2 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 2 SO, 2 HR, He left in the 4th with the trainer after covering homeplate, hoping its heat related and nothing threatening.
    Chase Whitley, RHP: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 3 SO
    Josh Romanski, LHP: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 BB
    Ryan Flannery, RHP: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 4 BB, 2 SO

    Low-A Charleston (3-1 Win against West Virginia)
    Eduardo Sosa, CF: 0 for 4, 2 Ks
    Anderson Feliz, 2B, Jose Mojica, SS: Both 2 for 3, Feliz has 2 runs, a triple, a double, and a walk, Mojica had an RBI and a stolen base.
    Shane Brown, LF, Kevin Mahoney, 1B, Kelvin De Leon, RF: All 1 for 4, Mahoney had 2 RBIs and De Leon struck out once.
    Michael Ferraro, DH, Jeffrey Farnham, C: Both 1 for 3, 1 K, Farnham had 1 run and a double. Ferraro is hitting .429 over his last 10 games (15 for 25).
    Garrison Lassiter, 3B: 0 for 3, 2 Ks
    Scottie Allen, RHP: 6.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 SO
    Aaron Dott, LHP: 1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 SO, He’s got 11.3 K/9 and pitching to a 1.62 ERA… as the set up man.
    Mark Montgomery, RHP: 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 SO, He’s got 17.4 K/9 (18 SO in his first 9.1 IP in Charleston)

    Short Season Staten Island (6-1 Win against Tri-City)
    Mason Williams, CF, Angelo Gumbs, 2B, Zach Wilson, DH, Reymond Nunez, 1B, Nick McCoy, C: All 1 for 4, Wilson and McCoy both doubled, McCoy had his first PB of the year, Williams walked once and stole 2 bases.
    Cito Culver, SS: 0 for 4, 1 R, 1 K
    Cody Grice, LF: 2 for 3, 2 R, 1 BB, 1 SB, 8 for his last 13 (.615)
    Ben Gamel, RF: 3 for 4, 2 2B, 4 RBI
    Ali Castillo, 3B: 0 for 3, 1 BB
    Rich Martinez, RHP: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO
    Caleb Cotham, RHP: 2.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 SO, he’s yet to give up a run yet over his first 10.1 IP in NYP with 15 SO.
    Matthew Tracy, LHP: 2.0 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 4 SO

    Rookie GCL Yanks (15-4 Depantsing of the Pirates)
    Claudio Custodio, SS, Jorge Alcantara,3B: 2 for 6, Both scored a run, Alcantara doubled and drove in 2 RBIs, Custodio stole a base
    Ravel Santana, CF: 0 for 4, R, 2 BB, K
    Isaias Tejeda, C, Jackson Calera, 1B: 1 for 5, Both scored a run and had 2 RBIs, Tejada homered, K’d twice, and was picked off, he had a throwing error in the 6th, Valera doubled and K’d once.
    Dante Bichette, 3B: 4 for 4, 3 R, 2 RBI, 2 BB, 2 2B, He’s hitting .500 over his last 10 games (21 for 42) with a .569 OBP and a .786 SLG. He’s gotten his season average over .300 to .305. Gotta think he’ll see sometime in Staten Island soon.
    Yeicok Calderon, DH: 3 for 5, 2 R, 2 2B, RBI, BB, K
    Daniel Lopez, RF, Taylor Anderson, 2B: Both 3 for 6, 2 RBI, Lopez hit 2 doubles, Anderson struckout once.
    Fu-Lin Kuo, 1B: 1 for 1, R
    Jon Hurst, PH-C, Henry Pena, CF: 0 for 0, Hurst had a throwing error and 2 passed balls.
    Gabriel Encinas, RHP: 5.0 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 4 BB, 4 SO
    Joel De La Cruz, RHP: 2.0 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 1 SO
    George Isabel, RHP: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 1 SO
    Reiner Casanova, RHP: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 SO

    • W.W.J.M.D

      Mike should be worried.

    • The Humongous

      +1 Internets for you!

    • Steve S.


      I can’t get to sleep without my glass of warm milk and Dot-F. Thank you, sir.

    • Gonzo

      Good work man!

      Is Isaias Tejeda is vying for our new catcher of the future? SSS, but look at this guy’s line so far.

      Best part is that he’s only 6ft tall. Haha.

    • Phife Dawg

      Mike would be proud.

    • Skip

      Thank you! Like others DOTF is the last thing I do before bed so I was really craving it. Wonderful job putting it together.

      And Dante is on a TEAR right now. Keep it up kid.

  • W.W.J.M.D

    Which do you hate most, that there are no obvious top pitchers available to add to the rotation or that the 3B’s have had disappointing seasons?

  • Cuso

    You know what sucks? That for whatever reason, the law of averages will wake up the Mariners from their suckitude just in time for YS3. watch the Yanks lose 2 of 3 to them.

  • nycsportzfan

    Same worries for me tonight..

    Will the Yanks “HIT” enough against playoff pitching?

    Will Colon AJ and Garcia pitch good enough to win against Lineups like the tigers, redsox, phillies, rangers or are they just “regular” season pitchers, having great yrs but in the reg season with alot more lesser teams to face(take nothing away from Colon and Freddie, they’ve been great!).

    We gotta start getting “HITTING” and a nice solid Num 2 starter mostly one because we need to have a guy with a more surer chance at pitching gems in the playoffs..

  • nycsportzfan

    Man, this is why i always talk about the proven player in trades… Now, we got Dellin and Banuelos just like that struggling at double A, and MOntero hitting 279, all though he drove in 3runs tongiht and i think 3 yesterday or day before.

    I hope its just a small blip on the radar.. I still think we should call up montero though, hes could put up better num’s as a PRO, i have a feeling.. He’ll be motivated and not so bored….

  • Simon

    Why does this deadline have to be so boring?

  • CMP

    Jim Bowden had some nice things to say about Montero and Nova today which is kind of suprising considering he works for ESPN.

    He calls Nova a future number 3 starter and Montero a middle of the order bat who’s improving behind the plate.

    • Steve H

      It’s too bad Bowden is generally a moron.

    • Steve H

      This was awesome:

      Trade scenario: The Los Angeles Dodgers trade 1B James Loney, RHP Hiroki Kuroda and a future draft pick to the St. Louis Cardinals for 1B Albert Pujols.

      Gilbert Rodriguez

      Analysis: Sorry, Gilbert, but this trade idea is terrible. First, you can’t trade draft picks in baseball. Second, Kuroda has a no-trade clause, although I still think he’d waive it for the right transaction. Third, Loney wouldn’t start for the Cardinals even if Pujols were traded because they have Lance Berkman, Colby Rasmus, Jon Jay and Matt Holliday. Finally, Pujols will NEVER be traded by the Cardinals. NEVER. If he leaves, it will only be through free agency.

      Thanks for your idea, anyway.

  • Simon

    What about the idea of trying to pry Garza away from the Cubs? He shouldnt cost a ton and has AL East experience and hasnt pitched that bad?

    • Steve H

      He’d cost a ton. They gave up a ton to get him and probably don’t want to move him, so you’d pay a premium to get him.

  • NC Saint

    DBJ is straight up crushing it.