Jul
17

Sunday Open Thread

By

(AP)

First series after the All-Star break, and I’d call it a success. They split the four games the hard way, dropping the first two (in blowout fashion) but rebounding to win the next two. Brett Gardner had a huge series, Eduardo Nunez had a ton of hard contact, Phil Hughes looked something other than awful, lots to take away from that one. The proverbial rust is off, now it’s time to get back to the grind.

Here is tonight’s open thread. The ESPN Sunday Night Game is in Tampa for the Rays and Red Sox (Niemann vs. Beckett), plus Breaking Bad comes back tonight. Yippee. Talk about whatever you want, anything’s game.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://twitter.com/bryanl26 Bryan L

    I really can’t see why the Rockies trade Ubaldo unless they get completely overwhelmed with an offer. Pitchers of his kind are just too hard to come by.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Yeah this seems like the time Justin Upton was “available.”

      • YankeesJunkie

        I would be willing to give a lot more for Upton than I would Ubaldo.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    So do you think Cash will give the “untouchable” prospects to get Ubaldo or will he pass?

    • YankeesJunkie

      All depends on what the price is. If it is just one of the big three prospects plus Nova and a couple younger good prospects then yes. However, if it involves more major leaguers than Nova and they want two of the big three the Yanks will look elsewhere.

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      The Phillies will swoop in at the last minute, snatch Ubaldo, and break all of our hearts. You watch.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        They’ll trade prospects to get Ubaldo, then trade Cole Hamels for prospects, then sign Cole Hamels back when he hits free agency.

        They’re going to keep doing this until they’ve assembled the first ever 12-ace pitching staff in ML history.

        • IRF

          After Mo announces his retirement in 2012, Cliff Lee’s wife will urge him out of retirement and on to the Phillies, where he will go on to win 15 more WS rings.

          Cliff Lee will then refer to the Yankees as “old”

        • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

          I’m sorry, the Red Sox have a roster full of 25 aces, plus a stocked farm to use to grab Ubaldo.

        • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

          “They’re going to keep doing this until they’ve assembled the first ever 12-ace pitching staff in ML history.”

          Wrong. The Red Sox already did that.

          Lester, Beckett, Lackey, Millwood, Buchholz, Miller, Wakefield, Aceves, Kyle Welland, Dennys Reyes, Scott Atchison, and Felix Dourbront.

        • Hall and Nokes

          Ubaldo loves those Phillie fans. How can you not?

        • David

          You mean Boston doesn’t have that already???

    • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

      Brian Cashman offered Montero, Adams, Nova and a lesser prospect for TWO MONTHS of Cliff Lee. Two months. If anyone thinks he won’t offer more for 3+ years of Jimenez for less than 20 mil total cost, then they’re just not paying attention.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Cliff Lee in mid 2010 >>>>>>>> Ubaldo Jimenez right now

        Dude had won a Cy Young, in the AL, the year before, and had a 14.83 K/BB for Seattle at the time.

        FOURTEEN POINT EIGHT THREE.

        Yes, Ubaldo’s way younger and has way more team control, but Ubaldo has had a lot of good pitching and is currently scuffling. Cliff Lee was one of the three best pitchers on the planet and was on top of his game. Not identical.

        • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

          You can’t be serious. How many WAR could Lee have possibly been worth in those two months vs the value of those prospects and/or Jimenez for 3 1/3 seasons? In both cases, it’s a ‘win the WS now’ move, but with Ubaldo you get to do it this year AND 3 more years for pocket change.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            What I’m saying is, the concept that Cashman would offer more for Ubaldo than he would for Lee due to the fact that Ubaldo is younger and under team control longer is only half of the equation.

            The countermanding concept is that Cashman would offer less for Ubaldo than he would for Lee because Ubaldo is not as good of a pitcher as Lee is. He COULD BE as good as Lee, but he’s not, not yet.

            Those two concepts may cancel each other out. Ubaldo is younger, cheaper, and under contract longer; Lee is demonstrably better and much more of a sure thing.

          • IRF

            Its only 2 more seasons after this. 2014 team option is voided.

            • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

              If he’s traded? Thanks, I didn’t know that.

          • Pat D

            Yea, that win the World Series now mode is so stupid, since there’s nothing better than winning the World Series.

            Seriously, though, why does everyone think that they wouldn’t have been able to re-sign Lee last offseason if they had traded for him?

            • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

              Because Texas didn’t, and we found out that he had his heart set on pitching in Philly.

    • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

      if “untouchable” prospects include Nova I sure hope so.

      (I also don’t think Ubaldo’s really going anywhere.)

      • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

        I buy it. They’re 8.5 out for the division, 10 out of the WC. Their farm system has few guys in the lower levels, but no one that made the recent BP top 50, so its pretty weak for the next few years. DelaRosa probably doesn’t even pitch next year, and if he does it will be late. Their bullpen sucks, Helton is getting old and they can’t compete with either the Giants (division) or Braves (WC) for the foreseeable future. They’re looking at a black hole for the next 1-2 years, and Ubaldo is their most tradable commodity. If I’m O’Dowd and I can make franchise altering deal, I do it. He can stand pat if he chooses, but if something is too good to pass up I think he pulls the trigger.

        • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

          He can stand pat if he chooses, but if something is too good to pass up I think he pulls the trigger.

          Yeah, agreed. But I dunno who’s gonna give that up so I don’t really think he’s going anywhere. The rumored Montero + Banuelos + Betances + Nova deal is too much, I think.

          • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

            Sure, but that’s an opening bid. Cash counters and they meet in the middle.

  • YankeesJunkie

    It was nice to see Hughes go out and throw a nice performance. It was a disconcerting with all the ball that were hit hard in the air. However, this is his second MLB start in the last three months. More importantly he was able to finish hitters off and the tighter curve looked like it could be a knockout pitch. Hopefully Hughes can use this start as a jump start to the second half of the season.

  • Dela G

    I have a question for you guys. I am strongly considering applying for my MBA at an Ivy League school(s), but I’m not sure if it’s worth going there. I current enjoy my job, but I think an mba could get me far. What do yall think?

    • YankeesJunkie

      Go for it. You have nothing to risk in applying it is not like you are going to lose your job. If you get in you should go because it will increase your earning power throughout your lifetime in 99/100 cases especially from the Ivy League. Finally, the more educated you the unemployment rate for that group of people decrease. Good luck.

    • http://twitter.com/bryanl26 Bryan L

      Public Ivy’s all the way.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Public Ivies all the way, but yeah.

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      An Ivy MBA will make you more marketable. The question is how long will it take to recoup the cost.

      Also, check this out: http://personalmba.com/

    • NYinTX

      UT-Austin FTW. Same level of education and prospects for half the price.
      I got mine there after getting my MACC at TAMUCC and the payback has already been tremendous.

    • BigBlueAL

      Id give you advice but I didnt even come close to graduating from college so what do I know lol.

  • Monteroisdinero

    No errors today with Pena/Nunez/Posada infield. Girardi a genius for throwing Hughes out there for the flyballs/popups and strikeouts.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    Niemann vs. Beckett. This should be a blast.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    If this thing goes through it has a few similarities with the Beckett-Hanley trade.

    And no I didn’t say Montero will turn out to be Hanley for clarification’s sake.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Are you saying Montero will turn out to be Hanley? How can you say that, you idiot!

      • https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJeromeS Jerome S.

        Montero might be Hanley?
        JIMPJIMPJIMPJIMP

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    I figured out why IPK has flourished and become a successful ML starting pitcher while Joba and Hughes have struggled with injuries and regression:

    Kennedy’s grown an awesome ‘stache and beard.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/me.....height=471

    We may need to lift the facial hair ban, or at least lighten it. A junior-mountain-man like IPK’s would instantly turn Hughes back into a Cy Young candidate. It might heal Joba’s elbow in a week or two, stem-cell-style.

    Save the Big 3 Beard the Big 2!

    • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

      Thats’ a true Irishman’s beard.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Andy Dusfrene: Why do they call you Red?
        Red: Probably because I’m Irish.

    • Sweet Dick Willie

      It looked like Grit had a two-day van dyke going today and Boone had a soul patch, so they’re pushing the envelope.

      If the “no facial hair” is going to remain a club policy, may as well put Hank in charge (or could he eff that up too?).

    • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

      Ha! That is awesome.

  • BigBlueAL

    I thought Hughes looked pretty good today. Aggressive with his fastball and got some swing and misses with it. Thought early on he was too curveball dependent but he went back to his fastball and it paid off.

    I was very encouraged today and look forward to his next few starts.

  • Steve O

    Anyone else hoping all this Montero trade talk gets him going on a hot steak again.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      It could just piss him off. At this point you wonder if he wants out of the organization.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJeromeS Jerome S.

    Jerry Remy just started following me on Twitter.

    yuck.

  • Dino Velvet

    Japan broke my heart, today :(

    • https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJeromeS Jerome S.

      I spent 5.2 seconds upset.

      And then I remembered that it was women’s soccer.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      It’s like Pearl Harbor, all over again.

      (Too soon?)

      • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Matt Imbrogno

        Why’s that offensive? The Germans did that.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          Wormer is a dead man. Marmalard? Dead.

          Neidermayer?

        • Otter

          Germans?

    • The Humongous

      The UWNT broke my heart today.

      No offense to Japan, who never quit and never stopped coming, but that was a loss, not a defeat …

    • Pat D

      It was their destiny to help boost morale for their ravaged country!!!

      Seriously, though, tragedy aside, I am so sick of that fucking narrative in sports. I’m sure Japan winning the World Cup will make a big difference for those who lost loved ones and possessions in that tsunami. Just like the Saints winning the Super Bowl did everything to erase the stain of Katrina. Oh, and that’s right, they used that narrative for the Saints in their playoff run in 2006 and then whipped it out again for their Super Bowl run. Uh-uh!! Can’t use that bullshit story twice, people.

      And it’s not as if anyone felt sorry for the Yankees not winning the World Series less than two months after the fucking 9/11 attacks or anything, now did they? Nope, it was all about the glorious upstart Diamondbacks, a team comprised entirely of free agent signees pretty much, defeating the evil Yankees dynasty. Give me a fucking break. I always point to the 2001 World Series as great evidence as to why there is no god.*

      (*this is my own personal opinion and is not meant to be taken seriously by anyone other than me, as I have a fairly diseased mind anyway, and I don’t want to start another discussion like this because I learned my lesson the first time I made a comment like this. just pretend like I never said that.)

  • nycsportzfan

    All 4(nova,montero,manban,betances) would be to much, for Ubaldo by himself, but what if the Rocks threw in Ty Wiggington? Would it still be to much?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      What’s the least sweet type of pot-sweetener? Grape sugar? Beet sugar? Agave?

      Whatever it is, that’s Ty Wigginton. The least sweet sweetener possible.

    • first time lawng time

      Why would you want to get rid of 4 good prospects for 2 rentals?

      Absolutely not.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        Ubaldo’s not a rental, but your larger point stands: Why would adding a rental of Ty Wigginton make giving up 4 good prospects for a stud pitcher demonstrably more palatable?

  • nycsportzfan

    The yanks are gonna be in on the CJ Wilson sweepstakes in the offseason, if we somehow can get Ubaldo, that would give us one of the deepest best rotations in all of baseball, with not a ton of room for ManBan and Betances and Nova anyways, that might be what Cash is thinking if he does the deal..

    Could u imagine this rotation..

    CC
    Ubaldo
    CJ Wilson
    Aj Burnett
    Phil Hughes

    • https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJeromeS Jerome S.

      I like CJ but have a feeling he’ll be too expensive.

      • ItsATarp

        Also he really likes texas

        • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

          Cliff Lee “really liked Texas”

          • Levi

            Wilson to the Phillies then?

          • ItsATarp

            Lee wasn’t brought up in the Texas system

            • nycsportzfan

              who cares? CC liked Millwaukee, Cliff lee liked Texas, guys like MOney more… CJ WILSON will bounce to NY if hes payed enough coin…

              • https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJeromeS Jerome S.

                But there’s the thing, he’s not worth that kind of coin.

      • nycsportzfan

        The thing is, AJ will be in Yr 4of5 of his contract, and Ubaldo will be with a freindly team contract through 2014, so i think it would be worth giving CJ WILSON alot of money for 3yrs, and team option for 4th yr…

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          I don’t see any way Wilson takes three years. He’s getting Burnett money, at least.

          • nycsportzfan

            CJ WILSON is not gonna get a 5yr deal, no way, no how, hes gonna be what 32 next yr? No ones going to give this guy a deal through his 37th b-day, maybe a 4yr deal, but that would be as high as he goes…. I still say a monster 3yr deal with a like 16.5 million dollar 4th yr team option might get it done.. This guys not been that good for that long..

            • Pat D

              He’ll get a five year deal. Guaranteed.

              You think GM’s are that smart?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              Lackey got a 5 year deal from 32-37. So did Burnett.

              That’s how Wilson will price himself.

              • Pat D

                This.

              • nycsportzfan

                And teams will be asking how Lackey and AJ are performing.. so, that might work against him…

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                  Yeah but that doesn’t really matter. It only takes one stupid GM who needs to save his job.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                  All the shitty contracts teams gave out to shitty players in 2009 didn’t stop them from offering new shitty contracts to new shitty players in 2010.

            • https://twitter.com/#!/TheRealJeromeS Jerome S.

              And yet we have Allan James Burnett…

    • Pat D

      Fuck CJ Wilson.

    • jon

      id rather have

      cc
      ubaldo
      darvish
      aj
      hughes

  • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

    http://www.baseball-reference......;t=p#hmvis

    SO/BB are up, WHIP, HRs and OPS are down. If anything, Jimenez should be even better in pinstripes.

  • http://twitter.com/Carlosologist_7 Carlosologist

    At the trade deadline, BJ Upton goes to…

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      The Diamondbacks.

      BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM, THAT JUST HAPPENED. IS YOUR MIND BLOWN?????

      • http://twitter.com/Carlosologist_7 Carlosologist

        Brothers? PLAYING TOGETHER?!?!?!?!?!

        Get Joe Torre on the line, baseball doesn’t need this unnecessary fraternization.

    • Levi

      If the Brewers had literally anyone left to give up, I’d bet them so he could replace the Gomez/Morgan platoon. But alas, they’ve already sold the farm.

  • Zack D

    80%? So he uses a binder?

  • The Humongous

    .340 for Kotchman?

    Wow, I had *no* idea.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    This is hilarious, enjoy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ded#at=243 (safe)

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      The parts with Aubrey Huff were great

  • http://www.retire21.org first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

    Does anyone know the origin of the “veteran presents” meme?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Fire Joe Morgan, but I can’t find the original post.

      • first time lawng time

        Wait. That was a meme? I though you just did it accidentally. My bad.

    • Jimmy McNulty

      FJM or a Klaw chat, one or the other.

      • Pat D

        Pretty sure it was KLaw.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    So…who here likes the idea of a Montero/Banuelos and more for Ubaldo? I’m on the fence.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I’d prefer Montero/Betances.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        That.

        20 year old lefties >>> 23 year old righties. Banuelos is much more untouchable than Betances is.

        • Jimmy McNulty

          Well I’m not disagreeing, nor do I think I suggested otherwise. My question was who is on board with a Montero/Banuelos or a Montero/Betances based package for Ubaldo…so far it hasn’t been answered yet.

      • http://www.retire21.org first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

        I’d prefer Montero/Nova.

        Not enough?

    • JobaWockeeZ

      I don’t.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    From 2008 to 2011.
    Ubaldo Jimenez: 749 IP 3.52 ERA 3.42 FIP 3.74 xFIP 3.90 tERA 3.88 SIERA 2.11 K/BB 1.27 WHIP
    Pitcher A: 616 IP 3.48 ERA 3.51 FIP 3.63 xFIP 3.64 tERA 3.75 SIERA 3.16 K/BB 1.18 WHIP
    4.42 4.25
    Pitcher B: 586 IP 3.87 ERA 4.09 FIP 4.17 xFIP 4.42 tERA 4.25 SIERA 2.20 K/BB 1.36 WHIP

    It should be noted that if we look at 2009-present day.
    Pitcher B: 405 IP 3.65 ERA 3.76 FIP 3.82 xFIP 4.15 tERA 3.88 SIERA
    2.63 K/BB 1.30 WHIP

    Both mystery pitchers are rumored to be somewhat available on the market ans both should be a lot cheaper. Guess who they are.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      A is Kuroda I think.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Well that was fast…

    • nycsportzfan

      who cares? Guys like Kuroda aren’t on the same scale as Jiminez, because Jimenez is 27yrs old, and most pitchers work up to there prime, showing a solid season, a bit more the next, and then bang, best yrs for awhile after that.. Its not fair to take Jiminez’s first couple yrs in the majors and put it up against guys like Kuroda who are like 37yrs old, thats dumb..

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        It is if they’re both on the market right now, at their respective ages, and for differing prices.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Guys like Kuroda aren’t on the same scale as Jiminez

        Not to be rude but no shit. The point is finding comparable pitching that won’t cost Montero, Banuelos and Betances…

        • JobaWockeeZ

          And Ubaldo first full season of pitching came in 2008. Same with Kuroda. Moot point there really.

          • nycsportzfan

            moot point? No, Kuroda was obviously a seasoned Japaneese player, absoulutley nothing like ubaldo… And, it might be comparable if you were looking for a rental, but in Ubaldo your not, your getting a ACE and the best part, we all ready got 1ace! U start piling up Aces, u get what we got in the late 90′s with Clemens and Cone and Pettitte and El Duque, alot of Championships…

            Its not comparable, because in one pitcher, youd be looking for a rental, in Ubaldo, your making the deal in hoping to have a ACE whos 27yrs old and has a ton of yrs left… Its totally diffrent..

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Seasoned Japanese players don’t always amount to shit in the MLB. But anyways the Yankees will look to improve the team whether or not the guy is an ace or not. Rentals are perfectly fine…

              http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....ntals.html

              You’re ignoring the cost to acquire Ubaldo. Right now the Rockies are asking for a fuckton as they should. We’re not talking about Romine + Betances + Heathcott or something. This is the top 3 prospects of the system. If the Yankees can get a rental who can provide them another valuable weapon in the postseason while keeping Montero, Banuelos and more then he’ll definitely do it.

              And even then it’s not like Ubaldo is a sure thing either. Surer than every other prospect combined yes but he’s lost velocity and even with it isn’t really in the top 10 of MLB pitchers.

              • Pat D

                Wait, you’re saying that Hideki Irabu, Daisuke Matzusaka and Kei Igawa weren’t unqualified successes?

                • JobaWockeeZ

                  2 of those have rings which is the only argument I need. You lose. Good day sir.

                  • Pat D

                    Um, I was agreeing with your point Seasoned Japanese players don’t always amount to shit in the MLB.

                    So…why be a dick?

          • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

            Not really, honestly. Ubaldo’s still pretty young, Kuroda’s not. I can easily see Ubaldo getting better in the years to come – not really with Kuroda.

            That said, I loooove me some Kuroda of the options that I can see would be available out there, and he’d certainly be cheaper than Ubaldo. I’d definitely go hard after him. twss hurr hurr.

            • JobaWockeeZ

              Yeah I agree but the thing was moot is the unfairness that I’m using their entire career’s to show that they are close in production because Ubaldo’s career is so short.

              But yes it is likely Ubalo becomes better when he approaches 30. Better that he costs Montero and Banuelos? No idea but I don’t know if I wanna risk it.

              I mean I jump on it if it’s Felix Hernandez but 32 years old but Ubaldo ain’t there yet.

              • nycsportzfan

                not to mention, Kuroda said he won’t waive his No trade clause if its to the EAST COAST.. So, theres that…

  • Pat D

    Just saw Banuelos’ line tonight.

    Wow, it’s as if the EL ASG didn’t mean anything, or something.

    • Phife Dawg

      Josh Norris on Twitter said the blisters appeared to flare up again. His main issue is his lack of command; he walks way too many guys.

      On the bright side: he’s just 20 years old so he’s got plenty of time to figure it out.

  • Phife Dawg

    Just saw this via Deadspin, Jose Reyes starring in a reggaeton music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ded#at=281

    Cover your eyes if you don’t like listening rebecca blackesque auto tuned music.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      That might be the first time Reyes struck out all year.

  • nycsportzfan

    Montero and Banuelos looked like Snot today.. Montero down to 283 and banuelos ERA is almost up to 4.00 in Double A.. U people are crazy if u don’t want to make a deal for a proven pitcher like ubaldo, u don’t know what these prospects will do at all or how long it’ll take for that potential to show on the big stage if at all.. Both Montero and Banuelos aren’t doing anything impressive this yr…

    • Phife Dawg

      Both Montero and Banuelos r 20yrs old dis yr. Dey have a whole 2nd half 2 figure it out.

      • nycsportzfan

        ya, there 20yrs old, and i love having them, but if a guy like Ubaldo comes up for sale, i change my tune immedietly, just as i said with Cliff Lee and Dan Haren last yr, i am all about top pitching, i seen with my own eyes what a deep deep rotation with legit pitching can do for you(mid-late 1990 yank teams), and i seen a ton of so called Can’t miss prospects Miss, so whenever i can get proven stud pitchers, i go all in, the Yanks will always be able to buy Offense, but in the Playoffs, its all about pitching for the most part, u really can’t find guys like Ubaldo that often…

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      /boversimplify’d

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Pretty much. Apparently Cashman must be crazy.

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      I see what you’re saying, but patience is a virtue.

    • Pat D

      Your point has been established. There’s really no need to start another thread.

      • nycsportzfan

        I didn’t start a new thread, i simply made another post..lol

        • Pat D

          Same thing.

          This is a thread of comments.

  • FIPster Doofus

    So close to Breaking Bad’s season premiere at 10. The 13-month wait is finally about to end!

  • CBean

    I keep having to turn away from the Sox/Rays game because the excessive drooling over Pedroia is making me nauseous.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Has Jeff Neimann given up 12 runs already? I can only assume that’s what happened, because all I’ve heard about is how awesome Beckett is and how awesome Pedroia is.

      It’s 12-0 Boston right now, right?

      • CBean

        Well I’m not sure if you realise, but Pedroia is actually just covering first, second, third, and short by the sheer strength of his grit. And Josh Beckett has grown up right in front of our eyes, like one of those time-delayed nature videos.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    LOL. Who said son of a bitch on ESPN?

  • CBean

    Delay in the Rays game because a foul ball broke a lightbulb on the stupid catwalk and now there’s broken glass on the field.

  • James A

    As much as I’ve been excited for the Montero era, I really don’t see how it will work out unless they just don’t care if he isn’t great at defense behind the plate or they turn him into Edgar Martinez
    Frankly he has much more value to Colorado because Todd Helton isn’t getting any younger, and the guy will obviously be able to hit. I’d rather get someone I trust a little more than Ubaldo for him (and other pieces) but it does seem like Jesus has come to a turning point where he has to get called up or get traded

  • YankeesJunkie

    Brett Gardner for Madison Bumgarner: Crazy or genius?

    • jon

      id do it

      giants wouldnt

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      Crazy. The Giants would hang up.

  • jon

    lol they just actually said pedroia has done more than the rest of his whole team

    forget about josh beckett throwing a 1 hitter

    • Greg

      They wualified it with position player.

  • jon

    farnsworth throws 3 strikes to yook all called balls

    bard throws balls and gets strikes

    • Greg

      ehh it was close enough. Not egriegous.

  • Pastadivingarod

    Montero Nova Nunez Noesi Stoneburner for UJ and Wiggy

  • jon

    Ubaldo Jimenez pitches to the 26th, 27th & 29th (last 3 in the NL) offenses in MLB. The AL East has 3 of the Top 4.

    • ItsATarp

      I remember him giving up a long double to john fucking lackey last year and proceeded to get shelled by the sox.

    • Greg

      He shut us out you know. Dont we count?

  • JobaWockeeZ

    FUCK YOU JOSH REDDICK.

    • Greg

      He made a good play. You can hate them but respect them.

      Wasnt going out anyway. Double

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      Personally I feel sorry for him. With a name like Red Dick, high school must have been rough.

  • jon

    wow what a catch

    heres hoping for a rays win in the bottom of the 19th

  • jon

    youk has some crazy home away splits this year

    .383/.492/.664 at home

    .196/.315/.359 away

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      And people call Yankee Stadium a bandbox. Sheesh.

      • jon

        I dont think there is a player alive who doesnt hit well at fenway

        • Greg

          Yankee Stadium gives up homers.

          Fenway gives up hits.

          • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

            The monster gives up homers too

            • Greg

              BUt it can also block a few.

              • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

                It’s still the ultimate hitter’s ballpark.

            • jon

              302 to right doesnt hurt as well

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Bad JP Howell is bad

  • Greg

    Yep, TB’s done for the night.

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      Everyone just rolls over for the Red Sox. Except for the Pirates and White Sox.

      • Greg

        And the Phillies, who will win the WS IMO.

        • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

          The Phillies took two out of three from the Red Sox.

          By the way, YCPB

          • Greg

            So did the Pirates.

            Besides the Nl has homefield which neutralizes Ortiz for the most part.

            • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

              The reason I said the Phillies took two out of three from the RS was because I thought you had meant they rolled over for the Red Sox too. My bad.

              And you can’t assume the Red Sox and Phillies will be in the fall classic. Try as you might Suzyn, you can’t predict this baseball thing.

  • bonestock94

    It’s not gonna get easier than McDonald and Reddick, throw strikes!

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      He got Reddick out! good for him!

  • jon

    5 relievers in a game where the starter went 8 innings

    i love it

    • Greg

      wont matter because Alex Cobb will throw a shutout. We’ve never seen him before.

      • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

        Yeah, the Yankees are pretty much fucked.

      • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

        YCPB

        • Greg

          We hope.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    At least the Rays bullpen will be completely empty tomorrow

    • jon

      wow the rays have no one rested in the pen too

      • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

        The Red Sox are actually doing something nice for us!

  • bonestock94

    JP Howell needs to stop raging, it’s getting embarassing

    • jon

      i hope he punches a brick wall with his pitching hand

  • bonestock94

    YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    I love how the ESPN announcers are in complete disbelief

    • jon

      no one wants to see this stat nerd, mothers basement living, team win

      everyone wants americas blue collar heroes to win

  • jon

    why would you sac bunt when tek is behind the plate

    • Jonathan Harker

      Scutaro should have been immediately ejected from the ballgamge. Instead that idiot homeplate ump ejects the Rays 2nd manager. You do not slam the bat down behind home plate when the catcher is back there trying to catch a pop up. If A-Rod did that the press would have a field day.

      • jon

        scutaro is just playing the game the right way

        arod would have tried to do that on purpose

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      Agreed. With a speedy runner on first and that washed up mess Varitek behind the plate, is it really that hard to fathom to have the runner steal second AND THEN sac bunt?

      • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

        The Rays clearly asked Girardi to manage after their 2 managers were ejected.

        • jon

          i honestly think thats exactly what maddon would have done

        • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

          And binder-boy was happy to oblige.

  • jon

    wait wait wait

    damons walk up music is ice ice baby?

    +1 for him

  • Jonathan Harker

    This couldn’t be working out better for us. The Rays are using pitcher after pitcher and tomorrow they have a rook going against our lineup.

    • jon

      I honestly dont care who wins this game just as long as it keeps going

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    The Red Sox and Rays wearing each other out is the best case scenario for the Yankees.

  • jon

    6 of 8 pen pitchers used woo

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    Jacoby Ellsbury has gone 0-6. Nice.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    PEDs do you no good, Roia

  • jon

    and another rays warming up

  • jon

    damn that was way too few pitches

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    Evan jussssssst missed it.

    • jon

      so did kotchman

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    2 balls in a row that are HRs in Fenway

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      They’re no-doubters in Fenway

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    This game just doesn’t want to end.

  • jon

    Wow some big balls on the rays to throw at a dude when you have 1 pitcher and 1 position player left

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Sox have struck out 16 times. And walked 10 times.

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    The Rays just can’t score. And now Boston has the meat of their lineup due.

  • Greg

    Tell me why we got rid of Aceves again.

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      They greatly misjudged his injury.

      • jon

        its funny the red sox said martin was hurt so the yankees signed him

        the yankees said aceves was hurt so the red sox signed him

        I think id rather have martin over the mexican ganster

        • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

          Martin has been pretty abysmal lately but yeah.

          • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

            Martin’s defense >>>>>>> Saltalamaccia/Varitek’s

            • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

              His bat has really cooled off since that hot start. He really knows how to call a game though.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Toooooooo close.

  • YankeesJunkie

    Best game of the day if you ask me.

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    And the Rays escape another jam. Can they just score a run already? I don’t want to see Papelbon’s ugly face in this game.

    • YankeesJunkie

      I do! 24 innings!!!

      • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

        The sun will be up before this game is over.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Ace is really wild. PLEASE, Rays score a run.

  • YankeesJunkie

    This is now a game thread

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    Aceves has hit two batters and still managed to throw 3 scoreless innings on only 27 pitches. That’s how dead this Rays offense is.

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    The Rays are down to their last pitcher. If they don’t score soon, they’re screwed.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    Nice, walk Josh Reddick.

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      …and that happened.

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    Of course it had to be Pedroia, that little fuck.

    • Greg

      He’s a good player.

      • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

        Hey, at least the Rays won’t have any momentum going into tomorrow.

        • Greg

          And they’ll be dead tired.

      • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

        That doesn’t mean I can’t hate him.

        • Greg

          True, but he’s not a little fuck. Call him an insect or something.

          • YankeesJunkie

            If anyone deserves that title it would be Paps.

            • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

              Pap Smear already has a nickname: Anus-Mouth

  • YankeesJunkie

    Son of bitch!!!

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    Great. Here comes that douche-nozzle Pap Smear.

  • YankeesJunkie

    Rays need to score 1 run this inning. No more, no less.

  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    Quit celebrating, Anus-mouth. Sergio Mitre could’ve gotten the save against this dead Rays offense.

  • YankeesJunkie

    Well…fuck.

    Still a good game for the Yanks so not all bad.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

    That…sucked. At least the Rays will be bushed tomorrow.

  • BigTimeBartolo

    Bald little fuck needs to shave those pubes off his face