Jul
25

Trade Rumor Roundup: Ubaldo, Gio, Kuroda

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The deadline is coming up rather quickly, so let’s round up the latest from Yankeeland…

  • Unless a big-time ace caliber starter hits the market, the Yankees have made it clear to other teams that they will not trade Jesus Montero, Dellin Betances, Manny Banuelos, and Austin Romine. (Joel Sherman)
  • The Yankees would, however, consider dealing Montero for Ubaldo Jimenez, but the Rockies want multiple top prospects for their ace. New York is also concerned about his inconsistency, arm action, and the NL-AL transition. Colorado is out of it (11 games back now), but they have little reason to move the young and cost-controlled Jimenez, who’s one of the better pitchers in baseball. (Joel Sherman)
  • Executives from other clubs believe the Yanks will end up trading for a left-handed reliever at some point this week. We heard about their interest in Craig Breslow over the weekend. (Jon Paul Morosi)
  • The Yankees would “pay big” to get Gio Gonzalez from the Athletics, but Oakland is still refusing to talk about the lefty. Gio threw 111 pitches while giving up six runs in 4.2 IP against the Yanks yesterday, but he has a 3.57 FIP on the season. He’s young (26 in Sept.), left-handed, throws hard, misses bats, and is cheap (still in his pre-arbitration years), but the walks and lack of success away from the Coliseum are scary. (Sherman).
  • The Yankees remain interested in Hiroki Kuroda but have not had any recent discussions with the Dodgers about his availability. The 36-year-old right-hander has a full no-trade clause (and wants compensation to waive it) and Rosenthal says he’s keeping his options open, but other reports indicate that he will not approve a trade to the east coast. Kuroda’s got a 3.76 FIP this season, which is actually his worst since coming to the U.S., but he’s pitched very well over the last two months and makes sense for New York. (Ken Rosenthal & Bob Klapisch)
Categories : Trade Deadline
  • Hester Prynne

    Seattle is going nowhere for a long time. Inquire as to what it will take to get King Felix and trade the farm for him. CC-Felix will be the best 1-2 punch in baseball for years to come and will put us ahead of the Red Sox to win the WS this year.

    • Brian S.

      You deserve the Scarlet A for suggesting such a nonsensical trade!

    • Bob Michaels

      Inclue Phil Hughes in a pkg For Hernandez. It`s a no-brainer for both sides.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        You’re ready to give up on Hughes?

      • Ted Nelson

        How is Phil Hughes a no-brainer for Seattle in anyway?

    • Mike R. – Retire 21

      This comment just dipped your VARC into the negative.

    • Ted Nelson

      Felix, Pineda, Smoak, Ackley… that’s a strong core. If they spend some money wisely and maybe sell high on the Brendan Ryan and Miguel Olivo’s… could contend for the playoffs soon.

      • Louis

        This. the Ms need impact bats and that’s exactly what smoak an ackley could develop into.

  • CC’s third leg

    I know its getting pretty fucking redundant but has the status on Felix changed? Z knows that the M’s wont compete for 3-4 years, when he is nearing free agency

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      They can compete a lot sooner than anyone is willing to admit. Felix + Pineda plus Ackley and Smoak. They have a ton of money to add a bat or two. That’s enough to win the AL West.

      • Hester Prynne

        Or they could get two AAA pitchers from us as well as a bat for Felix and build around that.

        • Gonzo

          Yeah, but wouldn’t someone be able to outbid us if they only wanted two AAA pitchers and a bat?

          I mean, just off the top of my head, I would rather take Rasmus + Miller over that package for King Felix. And the cards are ok with shopping Rasmus too.

        • vin

          Problem is the Yankees AAA pitchers aren’t much to build around, and the prized B boys in AA have scuffled a bit this year.

          Felix isn’t going anywhere unless its a Hershel Walker type deal, which I doubt anyone will do (maybe 10 years ago when most teams thought they can solve their problems through free agency).

      • Tampa Yankee

        Add Hultzen into that rotation as well

      • crawdaddie

        Certain Yankee fans can’t admit that and think it’s foregone conclusion that they can get the Mariners to trade King Felix to the Yankees. It ain’t happening!

      • CC’s third leg

        they cant compete with the great young team on the angels or the great bats on texas

      • Kevin G.

        Wasn’t he suppose to be a free agent soon but they extended him?

        • CC’s third leg

          Yes he was supposed to be in the same FA class along witg Lee and Halladay but 2 of them were extended

  • Tampa Yankee

    Unless a big-time ace caliber starter hits the market, the Yankees have made it clear to other teams that they will not trade Jesus Montero

    Then I hope he is up on 8/1 and starting at C or DH.

    • http://www.conservationvalue.com jon g

      Here here!

  • http://www.twitter.com/brandonholley B-Rando

    2 for 2 on trade for King Felix comments thus far…

    • Tom Swift

      More chance that Felix Ungar pitches for the Yanks this year than King Felix. Say; is Tony Randall a leftie?

  • Johnny O

    Very underwhelming, which reinforces how important it is to develop pitching (or sign Cliff Lee). Our only hope is taking E-Jax or Danks in a “Sting”-like con of Kenny Williams.

  • Gonzo

    I think it’s interesting that Romine’s name has been added. Are they looking ahead to 2013 or 2012 without Russ?

    Does this mean that they wouldn’t include Romine in an E-Jackson deal? Unless they consider Edwin to be a big time ace-caliber starter. Which I think is unlikely.

    • vin

      I think its just a negotiating ploy from Cashman. The selling team indicates they want the Yankees’ 4 best prospects, and Cashman says he’s not willing to deal more than 1 of his top 4. It’s all part of the game.

      • Ed

        Could be. Might also be legit.

        Remember when the DBacks traded Schilling? They demanded Soriano + Johnson + more to trade him to the Yankees. Cashman responded by getting Vazquez instead.

        If your demands are too high, it’s likely the other side just gives up completely.

        • Gonzo

          Was that the start of the “one price for the Yankees and another price for everyone else?”

          • JohnnyC

            Colangelo was pretty pissed at George for the David Wells signing that took place over a couple of hamburgers in Tampa (Wells was a part-owner of the joint). He instructed Garagiola, his GM, to stick it to the Yankees.

  • Bronx Byte

    Need to see what Phil Hughes really has in order to feel good about the starting rotation.
    Time for Montero with Cervelli going to AAA.
    A healthy Chavez is a big plus.
    Try getting Randy Choate from the Marlins. A shouldn’t cost much in prospects.

  • David, Jr.

    I think that they would prefer a left hander. Gio is sure intriguing.

  • mike_h

    how much you are willing to bet we end up only adding a LOOGY. Starters are key but teams are asking too much. Don’t need a bat since Chavez is back and ARod will be back in August.

    • Cris Pengiuci

      If it were the right LOOGY, I’d be all for it. Choate would be a good addition. I’m not in favor of making a trade for a starter if he’s anything less than a solid 3 (E-Jax) and certainly needs to be at the right price. Danks would be even better, Gio is interesting as is Jimenez. All depends on the cost. Otherwise, go with what you got and hope for the best.

      • coolerking101

        What’s the infatuation with another LOOGY? JC Romero seems to be doing his usual job against lefties in Scranton. The Yanks can bring him up whenever they want.

        Of course if the Yanks trade for a lefty who is also effective against righties, i.e. Randy Choate….I’d be all for it.

  • first time lawng time

    I heard the Yankees aren’t interested in Jiminez that much.

    • Steve H

      They’re interested for the right price. Colorado is interested in moving him for the right price. Those prices are very highly unlikely to match up, or even be close.

      • Ted Nelson

        Agreed. Good point.

    • Mister Delaware

      Where?

      • first time lawng time

        Mike Francessa…

      • JobaWockeeZ

        MLBTR. It doesn’t say disinterested but are concerned with a shift to the AL East and his delivery.

        • Gonzo

          That’s interesting. Doesn’t he have a similar delivery to Betances?

        • Steve H

          Which could be valid concerns, trade posturing, or both.

          • JobaWockeeZ

            Yup we have no idea what it truly means to them.

  • Steve H

    I’d like Danks a lot. Some of the others are meh, but ok for the right price.

    Also, any chance you can add “trade for Felix” to the spam filter?

    • Mister Delaware

      Cosign all.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Who would you give up for Danks? I’m torn.

      • Steve H

        Not Montero or Banuelos, but I’d do Betances+lower level prospects or Romine+a little better prospects. Don’t know what it would take, maybe if Ozzie starts hating Danks the Yankees can get him for Marquez and Betemit.

        • Gonzo

          Quick someone plant a story about Danks supporting Jay Mariotti in his time of need.

          • Steve H

            Ha. That would do it.

      • Sayid J.

        I would probably be willing to give up 1 of Betances/Romine/Banuelos. Danks is a legitimate pitcher in the AL, who they will have for next year as well.

  • BklynJT

    Nearing trade season, I hear all this talk about how the Yankees farm is overrated. It begs the question…

    I wonder where the Yankees would be if a ranking was done across all clubs to determine,

    1) the number of everyday major leaguers, and
    2) the accumulated value/estimated value of those players

    that come from each team’s system.

  • Mister Delaware

    I. Want. Rasmus.

    • Gonzo

      It’s crazy if he really is available.

      • Reggie C.

        LaRussa has no idea what to do with Rasmus. It wouldnt surprise me at all if Rasmus is asking out.

    • JU

      So. Do. I.

  • X-62

    ESPN is reporting Kuroda would likely wave his NTC for BOS or NY.

    • Steve H

      $$$$$$$$$$$$

  • dkidd

    “something’s gonna happen. and it’s not gonna be like they called it back in danang”

    /apocalypse’d

  • Brazilian Fan

    AndrewMarchand: Hiroki Kuroda willl consider waiving no-trade for Yanks & Sox http://t.co/RKk06vR #trades

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Oh fucking Kuroda, please come.

      • first time lawng time

        TWSS?

    • first time lawng time

      Oh God. If he ever went to Boston…

      • Greg

        I dont think Boston would take him because Lester is coming back tonight and Buchholz is starting to rehab.

        • Jim S

          I think Boston would take him in a heartbeat, to push Lackey down to a #5.

          Lester/Beckett/Buchholz/Kuroda/Lackey is pretty damn solid, and it stays solid even(especially) if Buchholz doesn’t come back this year.

      • YankeeGrunt

        Kuroda is a good pitcher, but in the postseason they’re still rolling Lester and Beckett 1-2, and if Lackey or Buchholz has a hot hand it’s not clear that Kuroda is a substantial improvement over either. He is much more valuable to us as we have no known commodity at starter after Sabathia. AGon was a huge improvement to that team, Kuroda is not a huge upgrade when the postseason rotation is taken into account.

  • Avi

    “New York is also concerned about his inconsistency, arm action, and the NL-AL transition.”

    Very refreshing to read that the Yankees are aware of these very real Ubaldo uncertainties and don’t view him as a sure shot, elite pitching ace (as others do).

    • Ted Nelson

      No one thinks he’s the best pitcher in the world… just that relative to all other pitchers in baseball he is very good.

      You keep saying he’s not that good over, and over, and over, and over… yet you have given no evidence that I can remember. Just… “he’s not that good, I’d take pitchers x, y, z, etc. over him.” No stats. No analysis of his stuff/motion/etc. Just “he’s not that good.”

      Seeing as you are the same person who thinks that the Yankees should draft by the BA top 200 exclusively and that deviating from it is a terrible, terrible thing… it’s a little bit hard to take you seriously without some evidence to back up your point. If you don’t think Ubaldo is that good, please let us know why.

  • Oscar Gamble’s Fro

    I’ve read the reports that the Yanks have not contacted Andy, but with the Clemens trial on hold it’s gotta be worth at least picking up the phone to see if he’s getting the itch, no? I know he said the trial had nothing to do with hanging them up, but you never really do know about these things. Can’t hurt to ask, can it?

  • JobaWockeeZ

    http://twitter.com/#!/JackCurr.....9090087936
    “Yankees think Edwin Jackson is solid, but aren’t pursuing now. They have interest in Hiroki Kuroda. Keep insisting they won’t overpay.”

    Hate the first half like the second half.

  • http://none Favrest

    I really hope we do not trade any of Romine, Montero, Manny & Betances for anything other than a legit ace.

    Ubaldo Jimenez, while good, isn’t great. Wipe away the first half of the 2010 season, and he’s no more accomplished than Phil Hughes.

    • Greg

      You could say the same about Phil Hughes himself.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      If you take away the good part of the pitcher’s career, you’re left with a bad pitcher.

    • Jim S

      Really, what is with the rash of “If you take out the good, this guy’s bad!” comments recently?

      It’s a tautology, people.

      • Ted Nelson

        Not to mention that it’s not true in this case. He was insanely good in the first half of 2010… like ERA under 1 good. He’s merely been very good the rest of the time. Better than Phil Hughes has been even at his peak as a starter.

        I have to imagine that the people who make these comments are looking primarily at W-L record.

    • Ted Nelson

      “Wipe away the first half of the 2010 season, and he’s no more accomplished than Phil Hughes.”

      That is not at all true… where are you coming up with that? W-L record?

  • Greg

    Heard another option, though I think it might know what is going to be said. What about Derek Lowe as a salary dump? He has a good groundball to flyball ratio and only 4.8% of his flyballs are homers. That’s the best he’s done since 1998.

    • Greg

      The only worry I see is walks.

      • Jim S

        And wayyyy too much money left on that deal. People are already whining about a declining Jeter+Posada and an under-performing AJ. Throw in another 4/5 overpaid starter and I’m pretty sure some of the commenters here will explode.

        • Greg

          1 year $15 million. Send them a middle prospect and eat about $8-$9 million on the contract.

          • Jim S

            If we could get Atlanta to eat half his salary for a middling prospect, I’ll eat half my hat.

            • Greg

              Then make it $10-11 million. The fact that its only a rental helps us. It’s just for this year.

              Also we know that he wont succumb to the pressure of the AL East and playoffs.

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

                He’s under contract for $15M next year too.

          • Jim S

            And that’s 15 mil this year AND next.

            http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.c.....es_15.html

            Really really no thank you.

            • Greg

              Didn’t know about the second year.

              Well then, don’t do it. But you gotta do something.

              • Jim S

                But you don’t HAVE to do anything. If anything means making a bad deal for short term benefits, pass.

                If anything means someone comes available for a reasonable price and doesn’t gut our farm system, sure.

                I’m 100% in agreement that our rotation could really use a #2/#3 starter, I just don’t know how reasonably we can acquire one. Hope Cashman ninjas someone.

                • http://twitter.com/#!/DiscGolfHero the tenth inning stretch

                  …in the face.

          • Jim S

            And where did you get 4.8%? Fangraphs has it at 8.1%, which is lower than his career norm, so arguably he’s been lucky with HRs(albeit pretty unlucky with everything else).

  • Avi

    Would the Yankees DH Swisher if they traded for Beltran?

    • ItsATarp

      Swisher is less of an injury risk and better fielder. Beltran will DH but i doubt we trade for him.

      • Avi

        He’s saying he won’t DH. He prob won’t waive his no trade clause if he’ traded to a team that will DH him.

        • ItsATarp

          yea we might as well strike him off the list…his defense no where as good as swish has been his year. Also Mets want a prospect which we are not willing to give up.

    • Official Member of the Bartolo Colon Fan Club

      we won’t trade for beltran

  • nycsportzfan

    uhhh, earth to yankees front office, all these things your worried about with guys like Gio and Ubaldo, worry about the guys your holding onto that are mostly all still in Double A, with 2of em struggling in double A, just a bit more, yes??? I mean, jesus! These GM”s are annoying.. Obviously there is questions about most players, but how many questions are there about prospects? Theres a ton of em, like can they get a ML player out, at all???LOL Lets get this team where it realistatically has a chance to compete with a Boston team in the playoffs, that will shred this current yankee team… Freaking annoying!

    • Greg

      Jay Buhner. That’s all I have to say.

    • Jim S

      I have no idea what in the world you’re trying to say, besides Boston being so much better than the Yankees.

      Yikes.

  • Chuck

    okay well if only for everyones amusement….
    why not give igawa a shot out of the bullpen? The dude has to be able to pitch a scoreless inning from time to time or get lefties out.. Boone Logan sucked for a bit back then. I mean if he is a fly ball pitcher let him pitch to weaklings. Plus he offers about as much comic relief mitre does.

  • Coach J

    Hey why not wait til matsui hit waivers n boost our bench and only trade 4 pitchers that has proven that they can pitch in the AL east. Don’t want another Vasquez