Fan Confidence Poll: August 1st, 2011

Gardner & Garcia help close out homestand with a win
Montero expected to join Yankees "in the very near future"

Record Last Week: 5-2 (47 RS, 25 RA)
Season Record:
64-42 (560 RS, 410 RA, 69-37 pythag. record), two games back in the loss column
Opponents This Week:
@ White Sox (four games, Mon. to Thurs.) @ Red Sox (three games, Fri. to Sun.)

Top stories from last week:

Please take a second to answer the poll below and give us an idea of how confident you are in the team. You can view the Fan Confidence Graph anytime via the nav bar above, or by clicking here. Thanks in advance for voting.

Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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Gardner & Garcia help close out homestand with a win
Montero expected to join Yankees "in the very near future"
  • Nick

    Montero up for the Red Sox series? Or sooner?

  • Jorge

    Up to a 9. Team has looked strong beating up on a bunch of jobbers, as they should. We didn’t think Garcia or Colon would be standing upright at this point, much less putting together very solid seasons. No mortgaging the future for a quick fix as well. Couldn’t be happier.

  • Hester Prynne

    I just don’t know how you can be at anything less than a 9. Buchholz is now likely out for the year making our starting rotation every bit as good as the Red Sox. With A-Rod our lineup is every bit as good, too. Montero will be up soon, Nova remains our 4th starter, and all is good for another deep run in the playoffs.

  • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    Still an 8. Even without making a move, this team remains just as good as any of the other WS contenders. (Yes, even Philly and Boston).

    And both Garcia and Colon are actually getting stronger, not staggering towards their imminent demise as was frequently predicted.

    • Cris Pengiuci


      And longer term, all of the team’s top proscpects are still with them. There will be opportunities to acquire players during August as they clear waivers should an urgent need arise for the remainder of this season and also during the off-season to continue to build the team for the future. All continues to look good.

      Despite the team not making a deal prior to the trade deadline, I refrained from lowering my vote to a 1 (as hard as it was, I also remain at an 8).

    • jsbrendog

      to me it is even more impressive that garcia is still going than colon because of how garcia does it. He does it with smoke mirrors and slop and has to alter his approach everytime he sees a team again whereas colon can just go out and pound four seamers and two seamers. freddy can pitch and it is actually kind of fun to watch.

      • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        And anyone who thinks it’s categorically impossible for a soft-tosser like 2011 Freddy to pitch well in the postseason should go look at what 172-year-old Kenny Rogers did in the 2006 postseason for the Tigers.

        And that was in an offensive-intensive era, no less.

        Command > control > location > movement > velocity. Freddy is living proof.

        • jsbrendog

          yeah and he didn’t even cheat until the WS

        • Foghorn Leghorn

          “Command > control > location > movement > velocity.”

          Same is true for the bedroom! BADDA BING!

          • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

            It’s not the speed of your fastball, it’s how you use it.

            • Yank The Frank

              That’s what she said.

          • MannyGeee

            watch out for the knuckler…

            • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              “Split-finger in the dirt”

        • CMP

          Nothing is impossible but it’s WAY more the exception that the rule.

          It has always been guys who miss bats who do well in the postseason like Randy Johnson, Schilling, Beckett, Lee, Lincecum, Hershiser, Kevin Brown, etc.

          • Ted Nelson

            Missing bats is not just about velocity. CC’s contact% is 77.7% this season and Garcia’s is 79.4%.

            Greg Maddux was a soft-tosser, so was Pedro later in his career.

            If you can throw hard and pitch well, sure you’re a lot more likely to be elite. However, let’s not put the cart before the horse.

            • CMP

              Where did I mention velocity?

              Garcia is averaging 6.1 K/9 which I believe is a little below average. Typically, not always, but typically those kind of pitchers don’t far as well in the playoffs as do guys like CC who is averaging 8.3.

              • jsbrendog

                i thought average was somewhere in the 5.5-6 range… i could be wrong

          • Johnny Nitro

            Ummm Kevin Brown? Remember Game 7 in 2004?

            • Ana

              Oh of course. How could we forget that one bad performance cancels out a guy’s entire career?

          • nsalem

            Johnson, Clemens and Brown were much better regular season pitchers than playoff pitchers than post season pitchers Hersheiser was an excellent post season pitcher but his k/9 ratio was under 6 lifetime.
            I don’t know if you are trying to be sarcastic, ignorant or funny. Either way this makes no sense whatsoever.

            • CMP

              Starting pitchers who tend to dominate in the postseason are typically guys who get a lot of strikeouts, miss a lot of bats and tend to be more often than not power pitchers.

              If that point doesn’t make sense to you, I think you’re the one who’s ignorant.

          • toad
            • nsalem

              excellent point!!!!

        • nsalem

          There are those who think pitching velocity is like an IQ and if you are somewhere in the mid 80’s it would be tough to be successful.

    • nsalem

      In Mike’s recap yesterday he wrote that Freddy “chugged” through six innings of 5 hit, 2 run ball.
      Guess Freddy is sort of like The Little Engine That Could.

      • jsbrendog


  • Drew

    What the f is a pythag record?

    • jsbrendog
    • Mike Axisa

      It’s the team’s expected record based on how many runs they allow and how many they score. Run differential correlates very strongly to winning percentage, but there’s also some fluctuation during the season.

      The Yankees’ record should be better than what it is based on how they’ve played.

      • Foghorn Leghorn

        Matt will tell you its all of those games the Yanks have just given away.

        • Drew

          I was going to say, so Girardi’s mismanagement of everything cost the Yankees 5 games?!?!?! Holy bejesus batman.

    • Esteban

      Basically expected record based on the number of runs scored and runs allowed.

  • Doug

    Up from a 7 to an 8. Glad we didn’t mortgage the farm for a marginal upgrade in the rotation.

  • CMP

    8 for the future, 7 for this year.

    They still don’t have the starters behind CC to win in the postseason and it looks like its gonna stay that way until they can sign CJ Wilson or Darvish in the offseason.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder
      • CMP

        Yeah. I can hardly wait to see Garcia and Burnett face power lineups like the Rangers and Red Sox in October.

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          I can hardly wait for our power lineup to face Lackey, Bedard, Ogando, and Harrison.

          Cuts both ways, friend.

          • jsbrendog

            revitalized, rested, healthy centWAR centaur riding majestically across the shoddy pitching of the rest of the league.

          • CMP

            We can argue this all day but only time will tell.

            They didn’t have that 2nd front end starter behind CC last year and it cost them against Texas and unless you think Colon can keep this up for another 80+ innings, they don’t have one again this year.

            • Ted Nelson

              You have no idea what would have happened if the Yankees had acquired a #2 starter last season, so don’t act like you do.

              • CMP

                I don’t KNOW with absolute certainty but I think its reasonable to believe they would have gone deeper into the postseason.

            • Sayid J.

              Colby Lewis shut down the Yankees last year, and Bartolo and Freddy have outpitched Lewis this season. Bartolo is certainly capable of getting them through the postseason with a few good starts.

              • jsbrendog

                as long as that two seamer keeps the movement i think he can do it even if he loses 2-3 mph

          • Jimmy McNulty


            Out of all those pitchers you listed the list, in terms of talent, approximately goes:


            If Bedard is able to pitch, which I highly doubt, he’s better than AJ and probably Freddy. You’re insane if you think that Burnett/Harrison is close to being on par with Ogando/Harrison.

        • nsalem

          Garcia has beaten the Rangers the last 3 times he has faced them. All very good starts.

          • nsalem

            People are so wrapped up in their dumb fredjudice that Garcia can’t beat a power team that they have don’t even bother looking at the facts anymore.

          • Ted Nelson

            Why rely on facts when you can just say whatever pops into your head without bothering to check if it meshes with reality?

            • nsalem

              There are people running for president who are using the same concept. It saves time and money,

              • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                “My statement on the floor of the Senate was not intended to be factual.”

      • Jimmy McNulty

        Three of those guys suck, two of those guys are inconsistent. How much would you bet that Freddy and Bart have maintain the same effectiveness through the playoffs?

  • ADam

    So we can call up Montero now right? right…. or maybe the front office is thinking…..Maybe not, maybe it is better to not disrespect Jorge and or Frankie Cervelli in order to make the team better….

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Or maybe it’s not worth curtailing a solid month of reps for Hey-Zeus playing every single day in Scranton for the tiny, fairly insignificant upgrade of backup catcher and third/fourth DH that Montero would represent in displacing Cervelli’s measly 24 plate appearances per month.

      There’s that, too.

      • ADam

        and replacing Jorge’s ab’s and Jones ab’s… There’s that too

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          Seeing as how the Posada/Jones platoon is actually hitting well, I don’t see how taking PAs away from them to give them to Montero is an actual upgrade.

          So no, it’s just Cervy and his 24 August PAs we’re talking about.


          • ADam

            Jones .227.315.445
            Posada .235.318.383
            Cerevelli .235.305.306
            Martin .225.326.366

            Exactly on what planet do these numbers fall under hitting well????

            Listen The yanks need a youth injection and better results out of there DH/Catching position. I’m not saying he will be light years better, but he’s not going to be worse, and they gotta see what they have… If he sucks, send him back down, but at least give the guy a shot instead of letting him rot in AAA

            • jsbrendog

              yeah because looking at overall season numbers while ignoring the past 2-3 weeks makes total sense. because obv what happened in april-jun is more important than the last couple weeks of july. totally.

            • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              Go look at Jones v. lefties and Sado v. righties.

              I’ll wait.

      • bakekrukow412

        The point would be that Montero would get more at bats than Cervelli.

  • steve s

    Very happy Yanks did not move Montero et al. As ass backwards as it sounds I am hoping that Yanks don’t overtake Sox until after 9/1 so that they can block any waiver deals forcing Sox to live with current injury risks and their pretty empty farm system while the Yanks reap the talent they held on to. One item from last week did bother me though and was lost among the trade deadline flurry. Girardi’s statements after the sweep on Sat. suggesting that day/night doubleheaders should be played as 7 inning games (like in the minors) was so wrong on so many levels that I don’t know where to begin in showing my disgust. If Ernie Banks was dead he’d be turning over in his grave twice! Hey Joe, how about doing away with extra innings too and let games tied after nine be won by a home run derby. As godawful dumb a remark as I’ve ever heard anyone associated with the game make.

    • Ted Nelson


      • steve s

        See Sam Borden’s article in NY Times from 7/30/11 (was in Sunday sports section but it’s also online; sorry, I could not provide link).

  • David, Jr.

    For a time frame of this year, I stay at 8.5 They have held up impressively without ARod. Robertson has been sensational. Nunez has been a real contributor, hitting something like .303 since he started playing regularly, in addition to consistently affecting games with his speed. Swisher has rebounded strongly. A near certainty to make the playoffs, and a real chance once they get there, while at the same time retaining all of a very quality farm system.

  • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    I was told we were supposed to be panicking. WHY THE HELL AREN’T YOU PEOPLE PANICKING?!?!?!

    • Foghorn Leghorn

      I have no fingernails left

    • jsbrendog


  • Reggie C.


    Offensive outbursts are good for team morale and I’m sure Granderson felt damn good after a five hit day. The home stand now over, I hope there’s a chance to debut Montero soon on the road outside of the fan fare that would happen if he arrived earlier.

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    What a week…the yanks are two games back. This week – two big pieces returned – Soriano and Chavez. Arod will be back soon and the starting pitching has been very consistent. Cashman sits tight and keeps the top prospects…ManBan hasen promoted and Jesus is coming!

    And the Sox of all teams are the ones making deadline moves to acquire a oft broken pitcher b/c they have concerns about their staff. Also…adding Aviles? I thought Iglesian would be starting as SS by now???

    And who are the doctor’s for the Sox? Mister Magoo? Two straight years now they’ve missed fractures with injured players. I’m no doctor, but can’t Henry afford an MRI or Xray machine?

  • Johnny O

    I’m a 9. The santonio/plaxico/cromartie signings were huge.

    • jsbrendog


  • Kramerica Industries

    4-3 on the upcoming road trip – take it or should they do better?

    The White Sox have a good pitching staff, which I could definitely see winning a couple games for them. Abysmal offense however that can certainly be navigated.

    Red Sox, on the other hand – even the most optimistic person has to admit that the Yankees have to start making hay here. 0-6 at home is an irreparable mark, but they can alleviate that with a quality mark at Fenway going forward. That starts on Friday.

    Lets not forget the Anaheim series that starts after the trip.

    • jsbrendog

      the yankees do not need to win a single game against the red sox during the regular season to win the world series.

      this is a fact.

      • Accent Shallow

        Sure, but beating the Red Sox makes winning the division easier, which is more desirable than winning the wild card.

        • Foghorn Leghorn

          maybe so, but getting in is much better than not getting in and once you’re in anything can happen…

          The same is true for trying to score with woman.

        • jsbrendog

          The following teams have won the World Series as a wild-card winner: Florida Marlins (1997 and 2003), Anaheim Angels (2002), Boston Red Sox (2004).
          The World Series was won by a wild-card team in three consecutive years: 2002, 2003, and 2004.
          A wild-card team appeared in the World Series in six consecutive years: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007.

        • MannyGeee

          well, technically beating TB/CLE/CHW makes it easier for the Yankees to get into the playoffs. as long as you have a better record than those teams, you are getting in via the WC..

          and FWIW, winning the World Series is more desirable than winning the East. dont care how you get there, just get there.

    • Hester Prynne

      Take it as I think we’ll split with the White Sox. I see us winning tonight, losing tomorrow and splitting the last 2. Which means 4-3 leads to taking 2/3 from the Red Sox which I think we can do. I hope they don’t push Lester back to Friday so we only have to face one of Beckett/Lester.

  • http://RAB Nuke LaDoosh

    I’m in at an 8 and it’s the first time I ever voted on a Fan Confidence poll, so it was a personal bar-setter. I LOVE that Cash had the Cajones to stand pat. It would have been so much easier to deal for Bedard or Kuroda to “appease” the MSM or MSF (Mainstream Fans.) Once it was clear that he wasn’t going to get the Ace or Legit 2 for what he viewed as a fair price, he did the smart thing.

  • theyankeewarrior

    I’ll call it an 8. And it doesn’t have much to do with the deadline. Just the team looking good.

    To be honest, I thought we would at least grab another LOOGY option or go after Bedard. We could have had that guy for none of our top prospects AND kept him away from our rival who suddenly has only two legitimate starters.

    Anyone have a fair comp. for what the Sox gave up for Erik?

  • CountryClub

    And then there’s this:

    According to sources close to organization, Trenton catcher Austin Romine, then Dellin Betances, will be next to board the SWB shuttle, with top overall prospect Jesus Montero expected to join the Yankees’ lineup in the very near future.

  • Ana

    Still at a 9. Really glad we didn’t make any rash trade deadline moves – nothing that was available on the market outside of Ubaldo was worth giving up more than B prospects, and the MRI refusal from the Rox was a huge red flag.

    Right now, we’re looking at a team with one of the best offenses in baseball in terms of R/G and run diff., the 2nd best team pitcher fWAR in the AL, 3rd best team xFIP in the AL (only 0.04 from having the lowest), 3rd best team FIP, 3rd best team ERA, and best K/9 in the league. Complaining about that is almost by definition irrational.

    • David, Jr.

      A good analysis, and don’t forget that this year’s team has an exceptional defense. The entire outfield has been outstanding, particularly Gardner. ARod was on a Gold Glove pace. Tex is Gold Glove level. Martin has been a major improvement. Cano is far above average.

      • Ana

        Oh yeah, absolutely. Gardner’s on a whole other level of defense, and the rest of the team is solid.

        Add it to the list of things the Yankees are good at.

    • Bob Stone

      I totally agree. I’m at 9 as well.

  • LarryM.,Fl.

    Staying at 8+ but couldn’t be any happier with the non trades made by Cashman . Maybe I’m seeping the kool aid but I do enjoy the building blocks from the system. Only in time of emergency and farm system inability to provide the goods then go and get with all the gusto and money.

    The Yankees if they continue to think along these plans will have an advantage over most clubs with the ability to develop and keep and buy when needed. Plus stay on top in the process.

    If Montero is on his way because their is no advantage to not move him especially with Cervelli’s offensive ability. Montero can get 2 games a week at catcher and a DH assignment for about 12-15 AB’s. Now we have Montero and Nunez getting great grooming while playing secondary roles just fabulous. Not to mention Nova, Noesi and Robertson blooming into future roles. If only Phil Hughes could get it together?

  • MannyGeee

    hanging at an 8, as we all await Freddy and Bartolo’s arms to fall off. might not happen, but considering their relative age and miliage, it would not be a surprise.

    that said, a ‘centaur-less’ lineup has been hitting the cover off the ball, Hughes/Freddy/Colon have wiggled through some good starts, and hell even Good AJ made a cameo this week…

    Banuelos, Romine and Dellin getting the call to SWB (already or very soon) instead of starting for Toledo or Las Vegas is a good feeling. Well played by Cashman to stick to his guns, right wrong or indifferent…

    and oh yeah, Jesus is coming.

  • CS Yankee


    Have been sitting at an eight all year and raised it .1 due to the non-trade moves. I wanted Ubaldo badly…felt that Hughes with others would be good. The indians anted-up & impressed that cash didn’t go with another 3/4/5 starter.

    Romero & ManBan can be effective LOOGY’s…let’s Manny make a few AAA starts and winds him down in the MLB pen come September (cap those innings around 140), if that pans out maybe postseason. Don’t feel good about Boone, never really have.

    Good stuff, Jesus call up sometime this month or Sept 1 and we have a solid chance without the Rook’s…maybe they’ll be our wild card for our wild card.

  • yankee_lover

    i hate how most of yall give the division to the red sox like they are 50 games in front of us

    • Bob Stone

      The division race is still wide open for the BoSox and Yanks.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    I’m still at a five. Middle of the road in terms of confidence. I fully expect them to make the playoffs, but the starters after CC all have their own issues. I’m glad that Cashman didn’t overpay for an upgrade, you gotta wonder why Colorado dealt Ubaldo and given what the Rockies ended up got in the deal I’m glad the Yankees didn’t deal a similar package. That being said, there’s still holes that need to be filled. This team clearly has flaws, but they were unable to address them at the deadline. I still think there’s a chance that Wandy comes over, but I’m a bit apprehensive about the cost in terms of dollars.

    On a positive note, Buchholz looks like he’s done for the year. Makes the division a whole hell of a lot easier.

    Playoff talk: Honestly I’m more worried about Cleveland, I think Masterson and Ubaldo are the types of pitchers that can make things difficult for the Yankees.