Fan Confidence Poll: August 22nd, 2011

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2011 Post-Draft Top 30 Prospects

Record Last Week: 5-2 (43 RS, 30 RA)
Season Record:
77-48 (675 RS, 487 RA, 82-43 pythag. record), 0.5 games up in AL East, 8.0 up for wildcard
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Mon. OFF, vs. Athletics (three games, Tues. to Thurs.), @ Orioles (four games, Fri. to Sun., two on Sat.)

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Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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2011 Post-Draft Top 30 Prospects
  • Esteban

    I was a 9 until they didn’t sweep the Twins. Now I’m a 2.

    (Staying strong at 8, where I’ve been all year)

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      We could have buried the Sox. Buried them.

      • Jimmy McNulty

        It DOES anger me that if not for the H2H record the division would be fait accompli. And I live in the Midwest, so not sweeping the Twins pisses me off, I hate listening to Twins fans brag about a couple of regular season wins against the Yankess.

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          That sounds like a “you” problem.

        • Frigidevil

          Hahaha do twins fans REALLY brag about one win in a 4 game series!?

  • CBean

    This seems to get lost every time we have a crappy defeat but we’re doing pretty much as well as we could have hoped for. I mean, right now our biggest issue with the rotation is having to figure out a place for all the good starters (+ AJ) and who would have thought that at the beginning of the season. Colon and Garcia are better than we could have ever hoped, Hughes is showing that his recent success can be replicated, and Nova is proving to be a genuine starter. It’s all a very good feeling.

  • Alfred

    The CC/Hughes/Nova tandem makes it an 8 this week, imagine that either Betances/Banuelos becomes a solid arm and top-4 is full.

  • Dan

    I think the Orioles series is supposed to read Friday to Monday, unless the Yankees are playing two teams on Thursday.

    • CBean

      and Beckett was complaining about the Red Sox schedule.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      I think the week cut-off points are Monday-Sunday, so that 5th game of the O’s series on Monday will be included in next week’s FCP blurb.

      • Jim S

        There was a typo in the first edition of the post, which is what Dan was referring to. It’s correct now.

  • Kilgore Trout

    I’ve been at a 9 for months, still am and don’t know how anyone can be any lower than that. Best lineup in baseball, Hughes and Nova are a great 2-3 duo for the playoffs. Best bullpen in baseball.

    Alex needs our help. He’s being unfairly targeted again. Alex was seen in a casino last Monday and the media will villify him once again. This will be the headline on ESPN for the next few days.

    • Dan

      I am at an 8, I was at a 7 for a while before that. I don’t think I can go above an 8 until they show they can beat the Red Sox. Nova and Hughes have been great, but they haven’t really faced any playoff caliber lineups lately. If they can have success against Boston, Detroit, or Texas I would feel more confident in them.

      • Jerome S.

        Technically, the White Sox are a “playoff-calibre” lineup.

        • Xstar7

          The White Sox have an explosive lineup.

          /Michael Kay’d

        • Dan

          They are in 3rd by about 5 games and their chances of making the playoffs are not that great. Outside of Konerko, I cannot really think of a player that scares me in that lineup and I think when the Yankees faced them Konerko was day-to-day and may have missed a couple of the games.

    • Frigidevil

      I vote for a mass gathering of RABers wearing these shirts in support of A-Rod.

  • Monteroisdinero

    9 to make it to the world series

    8 to win it-worried about our bats being stymied by Doc/Cliff

  • David, Jr.

    I am still at a 9.

    Time frame – this year.

    Scale – a 10 would be a slam dunk world series favorite, and down from there.

    They could be headed for 100 wins, so not many issues at all. Very good depth has been helpful, withstanding the loss of ARod very well. Hughes and Nova look like they will make up for the pathetic AJ Burnett. Mo seems back on track. Incredible movement on his cutter against Minnesota. Very good speed. Surprisingly, tied for the league lead in stolen bases. Fielding remains very good. Excellent management, like the “non trade” for Ubaldo, which could have sunk them.

  • Javierkei Pavagawa

    Kyle Farnsworth is having a better year than Mo

    • Jim S


      Or are you only looking at ERA? Because by every single other measurement(even the awful save percentage) Mo has been better.

      More K’s, fewer walks, fewer HRs, better xFIP and FIP, higher WAR.

      And it’s only close because Farnsworth has an unsustainably low BABIP, while Mo’s is higher than his career norm.

    • David, Jr.

      The AJ Burnett of relievers. A disaster waiting to happen.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Pitcher A: 53 G, 49.0 IP, 1.84/2.42/2.95 E/F/x, 7.53 K/9, 1.47 BB/9, 1.3 fWAR, 1.7 bWAR
      Pitcher B: 50 G, 48.0 IP, 2.25/2.30/2.62 E/F/x, 8.25 K/9, 0.94 BB/9, .285 BABIP, 1.7 fWAR, 2.2 bWAR

      Which pitcher would you rather have?

      Before you answer, what if I told you that Pitcher A plays half his home games in one of the best pitcher’s parks in baseball, and has a .157/.194/.247 tripleslash there with a .179 BABIP with a more pedestrian .230/.266/.333 on the road with a reasonable .294 BABIP?

      • Javierkei Pavagawa

        OK but you didn’t account for the fact that A is the better brawler and has bulldogs named Strike and Rambo.

        • CBean

          I’m pretty sure Mo can call up lightning from the heavens if he needs to.

    • Jorge

      Leave, please.

  • Ana

    Holding steady at 9, as usual. When people bitch constantly about the 5th/6th starter, that’s a sign that there really isn’t that much to bitch about.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Common topics bitched about this season:
      -Who the 6th starter should be
      -Who the backup catcher should be
      -What the batting order should be
      -How nice it would be to be 1.5 games up instead of .5 games up

      Life is good, people.

      • Ana


        • nsalem


          • Bob Stone


  • JimAbbottFan

    I find it interesting that the 09-11 teams have been almost identical in standings, but it’s the timing of their hot streaks that have altered the perception of the team.

    Basically, 2009 was the team that started okay and finished very strong (all those walk-off wins!), whereas 2010 started great but finished okay and entered the playoffs with a 3-game losing streak. This year fits somewhere between 09 and 10 with a good first half and a good second half so far.

    As long as this team doesn’t enter the same funk that happened last year at the end, they have a good chance of winning the division. But even with that, getting the wild card should not be a problem.

  • Jesse

    I’m at a 9. I’ll be at a 10 when A.J Burnett gets pulled from the rotation. It’s pretty remarkable how the Yankees have a lead–although a slim one–over Boston yet they’re 2-10 against them. Only Championship teams do that.

    • Jim S

      What? I thought championship teams had to beat their closest competitors or they sucked and wouldn’t go anywhere.


  • Jobu The Voodoo Troll

    Sitting at 8. I like what they are doing this year but still have concerns about player development. Examples include: the talk about bringing Banuelos up to be a LOOGY (looking less likely thankfully) and uncertainty regarding their plans for Montero. My confidence will be improved if they make a decision based on performance in the starting pitcher competition.

  • Matt :: Sec110

    9 – I’m liking the way this team is playing moving into Sept.

    Playoff Roster thoughts:

    11 Pitchers:
    CC, Nova, Hughes, Garcia, Colon, Mo, DRob, Soriano, Logan, Wade, Ayala. (I don’t see a role for Noesi in the playoffs)

    Martin, Cervelli, Tex, Cano, ARod, Jeter, Grandy, Swish, Gardner

    Nunez, Jones, Chavez

    That’s 23.
    Dickerson perhaps as a defensive replacement/speed guy (Girardi seems to like him in that role) and Posada or Montero DH?

    Could also take a 2nd LHRP, not sure who that is, don’t see Banuelos as that guy.

    Damon perhaps as a DH? He’s been very avg, but it costs nothing as he has cleared waivers.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Ayala. (I don’t see a role for Noesi in the playoffs)

      Noesi’s role in the playoffs: being better than Ayala.

      And here’s your position players:
      C- Martin 1B-Tex 2B-Cano 3B-ARod SS-Jeter LF-Gardner CF-Granderson RF-Swisher DH-Posada/Jones

      C-Cervelli IF-Nuñez IF-Chavez DH/PH-Jones/Posada OF-Dickerson or Golson

      • Matt :: Sec110

        Yeah, Noesi/Ayala are the same.

        I just don’t see Posada on the roster, what does he bring?

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          I just don’t see Posada on the roster, what does he bring?

          .275/.354/.453 v. RHP. Which is the side of the platoon that plays more, by the way.

          The Posada hate has gone way overboard. A.J. Burnett has played his way off the postseason roster, sure; Jorge Posada has not. Posada doesn’t hit lefties and thus is compromised, but he’s far from worthless. Posada and Jones as a lefty/righty platoon is eminently effective, and whichever one doesn’t start is a valuable PH bat off the bench.

          Think about it this way: we have 14 slots for position players.

          1. C Martin
          2. 1B Tex
          3. 2B Cano
          4. 3B ARod
          5. SS Jeter
          6. LF Gardner
          7. CF Granderson
          8. RF Swisher
          9. DH _________
          10. C Cervelli
          11. 1B/3B _________
          12. 2B/SS Nuñez
          13. LF/RF/CF _________
          14. Whomever you want _________

          Make an argument for me that three of those four blanks shouldn’t be filled in with Posada, Jones, and Chavez in some order. Keep in mind, if you’re not picking one of those three you have to replace him with someone else in the organization.

          Do we really have four players that all offer more than Posada does from the Jones/Chavez/Dickerson/Golson/Peña/Laird/Montero grouping?

          • David, Jr.

            Jones – slam dunk, because he kills right handers and can also play a passable outfield.

            Chavez – slam dunk, left handed DH, plus still plays the field extremely well. Why do we need two roughly equivalent left handed DHs?

            Golson or Dickerson (not sure which) – both excellent defensive outfielders that can also run very well, which can come in handy.

            Why not another reliever? Carry both Noesi and Ayala.

            • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              Even if you’re determined to give all of Jorge’s lefty DH PAs to Chavez, having an extra bat on the bench that hits RHP is more valuable than an 8th relief pitcher or a 2nd backup outfielder.

              Posada would have more chances to impact a postseason series positively than Ayala the 8th reliever or Golson the 5th backup.


              Primarily, though, it’s silly to give all of Jorge’s lefty DH PAs to Chavez, because Jorge’s hit righties better than Chavez has (.275/.354/.453 compared to .241/.326/.354) and Chavez offers positional versatility as a backup infielder.

              Having a playoff DH platoon of PosadaJones with a bench of Cervelli/Nuñez/Chavez/Dickerson/JonesPosada is a better permutation than a DH platoon of ChavezJones with a bench of Cervelli/Nuñez/Dickerson/JonesChavez/Golson.

              • Matt :: Sec110

                I’d like to see Montero called up before 9/1 and let him ‘audition’ for a playoff spot.

                I agree Golson/Dickerson seems like a lock for a spot, Girardi likes that sorta thing, has done it in 09/10.

                To be honest, I went back and singled out his numbers since the first blowup…I was very surprised how decent they are. I can’t believe that one bad stretch (before the 8 RBI day) didn’t kill his #s more. So, I’m all for Posada.

              • David, Jr.

                Good points. I am moving toward what you are saying.

          • Jorge

            Agreed. There’s a complete lack of perspective as to Posada on here.

            Looking at that list of players there, who would belong above him? Jones and Chavez will be there. I don’t see the need for Pena….and then what? If someone really wants to make the case for Montero, who still does not have an MLB at bat, over Jorge Posada, please, go ahead. That still actually leaves Dickerson/Golson in the Freddy Guzman role.

          • Jimmy McNulty


            Jones kills LHP, plays a passable OF.
            Chavez can play third or first in a pinch if, god forbid, something happens.
            Golson plays elite defense and can serve as a great pinch runner in late innings. In the post season the extra run is a lot more valuable than it is in the regular season.
            Montero: I’d like to see how he does in September as the back up catcher and DH. If he mashes and does okay behind the plate he’s more deserving of the roster spot than Jorge.

      • David, Jr.

        I agree with this, but when you see it on paper like you have done it is easy to see what a freaking joke Posada is for a roster spot. A left handed DH with no position, no speed, no anything, when we have an equivalent left handed DH already on the roster in Chavez. It could cost them another reliever, which can come back to bite in weird games like extra innings.

        • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

          It could cost them another reliever,

          Not really, no. We’re not rolling with a 12-man staff in the playoffs; and Posada’s easily one of the 14 best position players we have.

          • David, Jr.

            What does he bring compared to Chavez?

            • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

              The choice isn’t between Posada and Chavez, it’s between Posada and Greg Golson, Ramiro Peña, Jesus Montero, or Brandon Laird.

              • David, Jr.

                Then, I would easily go either Golson or Montero. Golson can pinch run and steal a base or score on a puke hit to win a playoff game, which Posada can’t do. He can be used as a defensive replacement and make a play that wins a playoff game, which Posada can’t do. Montero can catch if needed (this is my personal belief from seeing him), and maybe hit better than any DH we have.

                This is the first time that I have disagreed with you. Not backing down.

                • Jorge

                  You’d go with a guy who has never had an MLB at bat over someone you’ve seen for the past 15 years out there, whose split numbers were described above. I’d love to see your rationale for that, other than “They’re holding poor little Jesus back! We don’t know what he can do!”

                • MattG

                  The problem with Golson is that if you have him on the roster, then you have to use him. And if you use him, you run the risk of him being at bat in the 13th inning of a playoff game, instead of Nick Swisher.

                  Sure, his speed and defense might be the reason the game reached the 13th inning, but I think the odds favor Swisher’s bat ending the game before the 13th inning, if you get what I am saying.

                  I’ll take Posada, when they’ve run out of lefties in their pen, Posada can pinch hit for Jones.

                • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

                  Golson can pinch run and steal a base or score on a puke hit to win a playoff game, which Posada can’t do. He can be used as a defensive replacement and make a play that wins a playoff game, which Posada can’t do.

                  But Golson is duplicated by Dickerson, who’s already on that roster. If you’re going to duplicate something, duplicate the pinch-hitter, not the pinch-runner.

                  Nobody is saying not to carry Golson or Dickerson, just that you don’t need to carry both of them. Jorge Posada the third bat is better than Greg Golson the second pinchrunner/LIDR.

                  Montero can catch if needed (this is my personal belief from seeing him), and maybe hit better than any DH we have.

                  Maybe. But he hasn’t faced MLB pitching at all yet, while Posada has and has a .275/.354/.453 line against righties. The odds that Montero comes up in late August/early September and within a month adjusts to the league to put up better than a .275/.354/.453 against opposite-handed pitching is remote.

                  Posada’s the better option. Arguing otherwise is arguing from emotion and not reason.

              • David, Jr.

                And, it is in a way between Chavez and Posada because one or the other is going to be the left handed DH. It is looking like that will be Chavez. If that is the case, what does Posada do except sit there? Pinch run? Hahahahaha. Defensive replacement? Hahahahahaha. Maybe a left handed pinch hitter? That certainly doesn’t bring much value to a roster spot.

  • Charlie

    When are the Yankees going to convert Burnett into their batting practice pitcher. That would be a great role for him.

    • NEPA Yankee

      He’s a NATURAL!

  • Reggie C.


    Could Nova actually be the second best starter in the rotation come playoff time? I think weve got to look past the fact that Nova is a rookie, and focus on the stats: he’s pitching really well.

    Hughes especially has room to strengthen his case to make the playoff rotation with AJ on the slide.

    It’s just a matter of time before Arod finds his timing once more and perhaps a Montero call up in the next week will happen too. Montero needs at bats against ML pitching.

  • Jorge

    I’m still at the same I was in last week when I gave this a 10, so a 10 it will remain. Sure, we can nitpick, and I sometimes entertain illegal thoughts as to AJ Burnett, but it’s a hell of a lot of fun to watch this team right now, they have as good a chance as anyone in the playoffs, and the future may actually hold some of the prospects we’ve salivated over for a while now getting a chance to prove themselves. What’s there to not love here?

  • Monteroisdinero

    Greg Golson all over this thread!

  • nsalem

    Looking great coming down the stretch. Only worry is nagging injuries to the older players. Until I see a LD gap double from Jeter I will be worried about the spill he took on his shoulder the other night.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    Still at a five, where I was most of the year. I’d be higher if this team had the balls to demote AJ, or at least consider demoting him. Same goes if Hughes was all the way back, he still looks like he’s a bit off.

    A-Rod’s back that’s good, Ubaldo sucks now and that’s looking like a great non-trade, Manny’s doing pretty well in Scranton, so those are good things.

    Betances is in AAA, I don’t know how I feel about this. On the one hand he was walking the farm at AA and struggling to escape the 5th. However, the organization feels he’s ready for AAA, which also gives me some concern. Given the brilliant way that Hughes and Joba were handled, and the organization’s track record on developing and evaluating pitchers…this has me concerned again. By all accounts he still had some work to do in AA, 4.7 BB/9 and averaging five innings a start. This has me slightly concerned that they haven’t learned from mistakes of the past. However, the organization had scouts watching him every start, carefully monitored his velocity, pitch counts, quality of opponents faced, and just about everything about him. They have more information, but just because they have more information doesn’t necessarily that they always make the right decision. His debut start was impressive, and hopefully he’ll continue to impress in AAA…I’m still concerned about the aggressiveness.

    • nsalem

      Hughes isn’t the one that seems a bit off. Is this August 22 or June 22?

      • Jimmy McNulty

        He’s not throwing as hard as I recall him throwing last year, he’s still regaining arm strength.

  • Bob Stone

    Solid 9. First place, better starting pitching than anyone ever anticipated when spring training strated, good looking farm system prospects, excellent front office and great financial situation.

    For all of those who voted less than 9 – What do you need to move up to 9? A guarantee from God that the Yanks will be in the World Series this year?

    • Jimmy McNulty

      For me to move up to a nine? Yeah, that’s about what it would take. Things that would make me more confident about the Yankees:

      A more realistic approach to evaluating AJ Burnett.

      More aggressive spending on high ceilinged in the draft, though I am not unconfident in the Yankees draft strategy, more curious/concerned regarding their motives of going cheap in the past couple of drafts. Especially in the 2011 draft where there were lots of really good players available and good players that they have been associated with.

      Showing confidence in Jesus Montero and realistically evaluating his long term catching prospects.

      Manny Banuelos cutting his walks

      Phil Hughes fully regaining form, using all three of his pitches effectively, and developing a way to get more ground balls.

      A nine for me is kind of hard to do, to me a level of nine confidence is barring a miracle and a huge string of catastrophes that this team will win the world series.

      The Yankees have more resources, so the standard by which I judge them is a bit stricter. I think they’ll comfortably make the playoffs, but after that I dunno what the fuck will happen. In 2009 I was pretty sure they’d advance and I felt good about them in the ALCS should they advance.