Game 108: Two-thirds
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This game is number 108 of the season, exactly two-thirds of the way through. The old saying is that you use the first half of the season to evaluate the team, the second third to make changes, and the third third to ride those changes out. The Yankees chose to make no changes in the second third (or minimal changes, really), which is why Phil Hughes‘ start tonight is so important. Joe Girardi indicated that they won’t continue using a six-man rotation this month, and Hughes’ spot is clearly the one most up in the air. A poor performance could land him in the bullpen or in Triple-A, but a good one … could do something else. I dunno what. Here’s the lineup…
Derek Jeter, SS
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Nick Swisher, RF
Andruw Jones, DH
Russell Martin, C
Eduardo Nunez, 3B
Brett Gardner, LF
Phil Hughes, SP
Apparently the weather in Chicago is supposed to be bad, so a delay or postponement is a possibility. The game is supposed to start a little after 8pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.
Update: There is “severe weather” on the way, so the game will begin in a delay. They’ll reevaluate things at 7:45pm CT, so we’re probably looking at a 9:30pm ET start at the earliest.
Update Part Deux: They’re saying a 8:55pm ET start, so my estimation skills suck.
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SWB game:
Banuelos 2 K and 2 BB in first (got squeezed a little)
Jesus HR in bottom 1st
where u watching it?
MiLB.com
3 k 2 BB 1 h after 2inn
Only a nine pitch inning too!
Get Montero the F#@% up!!
Here here. Guy threw him 7 straight FBs. He hit the 7th one over the L-CF fence.
manny 1 k in the 3rd, hr to brown though
Let them avoid putting Phil in the pen. If he pitches poorly, best to send him down to triple A to stay stretched out, recover his fastball, and continue working on alternate pitches.
We are going to need all the pitching we can get in the playoffs. Maybe start him in the minors until September call ups, and then get him ready for a role in the bullpen for the playoffs.
If he’s sent down to the minors can he still pitch in the playoffs if called up after September?
Yep. As long as the player is in the organization before Sept. 1st, there’s a way to get them on the postseason roster.
You are asking the wrong guy about MLB rules. I don’t even want to try to figure them out. I’m assuming that, yes, there would be a way for the Yanks to do that in any number of MLB rules, loopholes or special exceptions.
yes, he can take the place of injured pitcher
for example, since Joba is on 60-day DL and won’t be back for the playoffs, any pitcher in the org. can take his place
I suggested in the earlier post that the 6 man rotation would not continue and it looks like Girardi has confirmed my hypothesis. I said a bad egg tonight would be the end of Hughes and Mike has suggested the same. Didn’t stop everyone from jumping down my throat. No continued 6 man rotation per Girardi so Phil Hughes is pitching for his job tonight and that it clear.
And now in hindsight, we can say that you’re probably wrong, since Hughes didn’t pitch badly. Congrats on congratulating yourself prematurely.
“use the first half of the season to evaluate the team, the second third to make changes, and the third third to ride those changes out.”
That gives us 7/6 of a season.
/Math teacher’d
Is this gonna be on the test?
/the rest of us’d
The remaining sixth is the playoffs.
BOOM.
Gary Sanchez just homered again.
Mason Williams Homered tonight too.
If I was Montero I’d sue the Yankees for keeping me in the minors too long, or sit out. This is just STUPID already.
He. Is. 21. Years. Old.
Or so he claims.
(unwraps burrito, wipes down microwave)
Domonic Brown homers off of ManBan. 1-1 in the 3rd.
…and I continue my hate of every player in the Phillies orginization.
I will root for Phil Hughes until the cows come home (or he’s an Arizona Diamondback.) Hoping to see some nasty curves and improved control tonight. Let’s get this done!
Sanchez and Montero homered on the same night. Let’s go Austin, don’t get left out of the party!
Question for those who know more than I do:
What are the odds that Montero, Romine, Sanchez, and Murphy all make it to the majors? Obviously Sanchez and Murphy are still in the crap shoot phase, and Montero and Romine are knocking on the door.
But given everything I have seen or heard, the Yankees have a legit argument that they have four future major leaguers playing catcher for them in the minors.
All of them: 1/10000
I don’t think it’s that low. Some shit team will have them and they’ll be playing regardless of how much they suck if they don’t reach their ceilings.
Make it to the Show? Barring injury, and considering the overall mediocrity of ML catching today, I would say 99%… Odds of all 3 sticking and becoming All Stars or even regular contributors? Significantly less. I had always read that you can put those odds at @ 33%…
my buddys at the game in chicago and the weathers looking fine not worried
ManBan first AAA start, facing Domonic Brown.
Montero/Sanchez HR
Mason Williams HR
What a DOTF…and its not even eight yet.
I wonder who Mike will pick for the text poll tonight.
What’s the question?
Who are you most anxious to see reach the majors?
1. Montero
2. Manny
3. Betances
4. Brackman
5. Warren
Heres to hoping Brackman gets more than 1 percent
What? No D-Bich?
I want to see Yeicok, just for Sterling’s HR call
Yei-cok has “come” through!
I would imagine something like: “a Yeicock shot, he put it where the fielders are not!”
way better than mine. don’t know what I was thinking…
Yeicok hits that one long and strong. He came to get the friction on!
“Oh my, what a money shot from Yeicock!”
I think there’s about a 100 percent chance that he goes with “Jesus Saves!” for Montero.
“Yeicok lays the wood!”
Jesus >> ManBan >>> Betances >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brackman and Warren.
Montero and it’s not close.
but jorge posada has a .347 wOBA againt RHP and hes 7/16 in the past two weeks with a double lololol
it was nice of them to put Brackman on there, lol.
I’m torn on Montero or Manny.
ManBan line so far:
3IP, 3H, 1ER, 3BB, 5K
Good to see the strikeouts didn’t stay in AA. Still sad to see the walks decided to come too.
Basically what we saw in Spring Training. Might have some control problems, but almost unhittable stuff. Like young Lester in a way.
*Like a young Lester
*drool*
Sounds like a typical ManBan start to me. But this time it’s against tougher competition which makes it even more impressive.
We have seen it against the Red Sox major league lineup in Spring Training already.
I hope Manny gets a legitimate shot at the starting rotation in next year’s spring training.
Jesus: 2 for 2
Please let hughes not stink it up.
oh fucking rain…
Rain delay without rain seriously
Anticipated rain. SIIIIGH.
We should just call them rain Tuesdays. This is getting comical.
Sox are just scared of Hughes
things like this make me glad I’m on the west coast…
Pavano is shitting the bed this year again, his first year with any real expectations on him since the Yanks. Not surprising.
Was surprised to see how big and built up Kennedy has gotten since I have seen him last maybe over a year ago. Not surprising his results have been much improved.
Ian Kennedy: Best career from one of the big three?
Yeah, I don’t think Hughes will resurrect his career. Too fly ball prone, and he already killed any semblance of trade value. Joba’s a reliever, and Kennedy looks to have a decent shot to win 100 games. He’ll likely have the best career.
I’d still bet on Hughes. He’s had a tough season, probably from severe arm fatigue from throwing 100 IP more than he did the prior year, but he’s not dead and hasn’t had his shoulder cut into this year.
Give him an offseason of rest/rehab, he’ll probably take a large step closer to his peak. Even if he’s only 80% of his 2010 first half for the rest of his life, that’s still probably better than IPK (who is good, but is coming back to normalcy from HIS early 2011 peak).
Ehh…there’s a chance that happens. Hughes has struggled with injuries his whole career. He had a good first half of 2010, and that’s about the only period of success he’s ever had. I’m still very bearish on Phil, if he wants to be a ML starter he’ll need to get that curveball back and get a working change up…when was the last time we saw a sharp curveball with any consistency from Hughes?
I think they set him back by putting him in the bullpen, because for an inning his fastball was so good that he could get away with using only it. He didn’t need to work on his curveball at all in the pen. Since Hughes got hurt in 2007, had a lost season in 2008, 2009 SHOULD NOT have also been a lost year in terms of development. Instead, it not only set back his development, but it also set back his innings.
Not a fan of developing pitchers through the bullpen. To be a successful starter, long term, a pitcher needs at least three major league pitches or two plus plus pitches (a la RJ with the heat and the slider) whereas in the bullpen a pitcher can get by with just two pitches. Joba never worked on his curve or his change up out of the pen, and Hughes rarely needed anything but his fastball. Since relievers as good as these up and coming prospects usually come in during higher leverage situations, they probably don’t want to work on their secondary stuff when it could mean a win or a loss.
Preaching to the choir, my friend. I’ve got no problem with a team breaking a kid into the majors through the bullpen, but at some point you have to declare that a starter is a starter and keep him in the rotation (somewhere) permanently to keep a workable development curve.
It also changes from pitcher to pitcher too. Just because the bullpen thing worked for one pitcher doesn’t mean it will work for another guy. Every pitcher is different. If a pitcher has zero health concerns and looks like he can get away with using two pitches for a good chunk of his career…yeah, maybe we can do the Joba or Hughes thing. But health concerns, lack of a DOMINATING pitch like at least a 70 on the 20-80 scale, and other causes lead to different things.
The only pitchers i can think of in recent memory that I think were the brought up through the bullpen successfully were Billingsley and Price. I know some people will say Johan, but he was a Rule 5 draft pick and had an overall strange journey to the show.
Hope you’re right. We’ve seen a lot of guys go through arm fatigue, struggle the next year, then bounce back (though, unfortunately, we’ve also seen a lot of guys who are never the same after early over use).
Hopefully Phil bounces back. I will note that he has been the majors since 2007. That’s a long time. Is it me, or does it seem like he hasn’t really progressed? Injuries have played a huge roll, unquestionably.
But I don’t think the Yankees have done him any favors with the pen/starter merry go round and the basically ignoring innings limits thing.
Hope they’ve learned some lessons for ManBan’s sake.
Causation is certainly not correlation, but I do find it interesting that all three pitchers have struggled with injury (as many young starters do), but the one who was never yo-yoed into the bullpen for an entire season is the one who has grown into a legit, healthy, MLB starting pitcher already.
Maybe that means something, maybe it doesn’t.
On the other hand, Kenendy’s only really missed any time in his pro career with the appendectomy, right? Chamberlain had injury problems in college, and Hughes had injury problems as a starter in the low-minors.
I think it’s probably more likely that Kennedy’s just more durable than either Chamberlain or Hughes, but you’re right, can’t really tell either way.
Then again, it should also be noted that both because Kennedy had more innings on his arm when he entered the system, and due to his overall durability, he never had an issue making any of his innings caps year-to-year, either.
He had an aneurysm under his armpit in 2009.
That’s right. For some reason I mis-remembered it as an appendectomy.
Great point. I am extrapolating from a very small sample on the bull pen thing.
I feel more confident about the innings thing.
Let’s face it, we all knew that we were being too cute by half when we said, “oh, 175+ playoffs is totally fine since he threw 146 four years ago,” completely ignoring the fact that he had never been anywhere near 146 before or after that.
Dead arm in 2011 was not an unforeseeable side effect.
Hopefully he bounces back.
I’d take Hughes over IPK. Send Hughes to the NL West and he’ll tear the place apart. I’m not dismissing IPK, but no way he’d put up anywhere the numbers he is in the AL East pitching for the Yankees and at Yankee Stadium.
More than happy to have Granderson and Hughes. Nothing against IPK.
Arizona’s not exactly Petco, and I bet Kennedy’s floor is probably as a midrotation starter in the AL East, with a better-than-average chance of being a No. 2 starter. No, he probably wouldn’t be an ace, but I think Kennedy’s a lot better than a lot of people give him credit for.
That said, you’re right, Granderson > Kennedy.
Laird hits a bomb to tie things up down on the farm.
15 min till start time
I think Manny is probably done
5IP 7H 2ER 3BB 8K 100pitches
ManBan probably done for the evening:
100 pitches, 5.0 IP, 7 H, 2R, 2ER, 3BB, 8K
Yes the walks are high, but very nice first start in AAA.
(BTW, the two run scoring hits he gave up — a triple and a bif fly — came against lefties. I really hope that, if they are going to LOOGY him, they wait until Sept. 1).
I think that is a pretty good outing. The walks aren’t too high. I think having montero catch him is good!
He also worked out of a couple of jams. Not bad for his first AAA start.
Not bad at all. A WHIP of 2 is a bit high and the XBHs allowed are a bit concerning, but the Ks are very encouraging. He’s what? 20 in AAA? I’ll take that all day everyday.
20 in AAA in his first start at the level. It’s a great debut.
Isn’t he the youngest player in the IL, or at the very least the youngest pitcher in the IL? My friend said that he was the youngest PLAYER in AAA, dunno if that’s true or not.
He beats Julio Teheran by a few months, yes. They are the only two men in the IL unable to drink legally.
Youngest pitcher in the league or youngest player? Also, is he the youngest at the level then?
My cursory search turned up Banuelos and Teheran as the only 20 year olds and Montero as the only 21 year old.
I didn’t check the PCL.
Does the PCL still have shit for prospects? I think the Royals might have called up all their good players, and I think Montgomery got injured. I’ve worked for two PCL teams and I always sat through the shittiest teams. Unfortunately, I quit working for the Royals once they moved and actually got the good prospects.
Texas’s system is still packed with prospects, so there’s got to be some decent guys at Round Rock. And Hosmer/Moosetacos weren’t the only good Royals prospects.
Martin Perez, Neil Ramirez, Mike Montgomery, Jay Jackson, Brett Lawrie, Lance Lynn, etc. And they had tons of promotions early this year (Ackley, Dee Gordon, Brandon Belt, Anthony Rizzo, Hosmer, Moustakas, Giovatella, Weeks, Rex Brothers).
Damn…wished I still worked in the league, then.
Josh Beckett is a tool
This is news?
What did he do?
I’m guessing hitting someone
Consumed oxygen.
I laughed.
I was simply stating a fact
Yeah, fuck you weather-gods.
OH NO YOU GONNA GET IT NOW
Michael Kay is in full blown mediot mode.
and why can’t Hughes be sent down? or is Kay talking out of his ass again?
Jesus: 3 for 3
nothing less is acceptable for the son of Mo
But can he hit a curveball?
Jesus should always bat 1.000 if he’s truly Jesus.
why is wins the default stat to justify Nova in the majors for Kay?
wins are the only stat Kay can understand
He likes to put it on the left side
Stuck listening to Hawk Harrelson call the game. I may not survive it.
Just remember when he refers to the “good guys,” he’s not talking about the Yankees.
Jeter continuing his career-long trend of hitting strongly leading off a game. I want to dismiss it, yet I’m not sure.
There was our obligatory double play for the day.
Let’s get it out of the way early.
Better now than in crunch time.
2 out hits FTW
RBInson
Robinson, bitches.
Way to try to fool Jeter with two out rios
Will we see the battery of Manny and Jesus anywhere near 161st?
Since neither Felix Hernandez nor Clayton Kershaw will be made available for trade this winter, I’ll say “yes”.
Maybe Billy Crystal will buy the Dodgers and trade all their good players to the Yankees for AJ Burnett.
at the very least, probably throwing a bullpen session in Sept.
phil with the new haircut. pulling out all the stops
Hughes’ fastball has life. Im telling you
can of soda opening #1
I heard that! I was thinking beer. Course, I’m always thinking beer.
94!
So weird how his arm strength comes and goes.
Baseball is a cruel bitch of a mistress.
Vizquel not a HOFer.
Agreed.
Disagree.
I’ve never been to the HOF. If they induct Vizquel I have no interest in going.
The HOF itself is kinda boring, but the museum is absolutely amazing.
Figuring he’d be in on counting stats/longevity alone, I’d rather see John Franco and Julio Franco in first anyway. Someone on the TV broadcast actually suggested this?
stat compiler
95!
95!
95 mph!!!!
94mph… Maybe Phil was bored?
95 2 times in a row
3 times!
Phil’s upper body/back looks bigger.
He’s fat.
It works for the other good pitchers in the rotation.
No, he’s just lazy and terrible. You know, like Joba.
I want AJ to pull himself up a seat at the pasta bar and put on about thirty pounds.
Aroused.
boom. that is all.
Clearly Hughes was just bored
95mph x 3 = wow.
..wow..
OMG I’m getting turned on.
Two 95s…hmmm.
10 pitch inning? 3 straight 95mph fastballs?
I like this Phil Hughes
This is the phil I love.
95??? jeebus
i’m very aroused.
hughes is on steroids
he got injected with some stem cells.
maybe that explains the weight gain, pretty sure that is what bart is blaming it on too
Hughes to the first!
Wasn’t the gun a bit hot in Chicago last year too? Joba hit 100 and Moseley was throwing 97. Or was that somewhere else?
Oh God…Here We Go…
Not trying to start anything, just an honest question. If Phil is really throwing 95 I’m thrilled.
actually it was IIRC, I think Logan was hitting 98 as well
MLB Gameday says 95 too.
Brackman gets my vote
Charity is a virtue…
Russell the Muscle!
Russell?!?!?! where the fuck did that come from? must be scared of the Jesus.
Mussel!
Martin!!!!!!!!!!!! MARTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MARTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep Montero in Scranton.
You all and MLB.com say 95. Does it look real? Are the hitters reacting like it’s 95?
First two batters got good contact, sending fly balls out to Swisher. He did get a swing and a miss on that first 95mph pitch I think
Hughes only threw 95 to the last batter. The others were 93, 94, and cutters
The last two pitches that inning were 95. Might have been three.
I don’t think anyone swung at it, called strikes.
They had some giddy-up on them, yes.
No, the hitters were all “screw the gun, these fastballs are clearly coming at me like they’re 65.”
In all seriousness, looks legit, but it’s also been one inning.
Hey, I’m headed up to the City for 9/11. I’m going to be at GZ for the 10 year ceremony, and afterwards I’d like to catch the Cowboys at the Jets. I’ve been to both places before, but never in the same day. Does anyone know what the fastest way to get from GZ to the Meadowlands is?
You driving? I would suggest *not* driving. E train from GZ to Port Authority. Take the NJT bus from Port Authority.
I’d actually pick PATH or NJ Transit trains instead of the bus. But what DCBX said works too. Definitely, don’t drive.
http://www.mta.info/mta/sports.....s.html#nyc
Thanks d00dz. I definitely won’t drive, I don’t hate life that much. God, that’d be a madhouse.
Absolutely the Path.
quentin swung ugly through the first 95, saw the second go for a ball, and watched a third for a strike 3. looked legit, with movement. now we’ll see how long it lasts.
Let’s see if Hughes can keep it up.
wow that nunez really has no glove huh…
HOLY SHIT ADAM DUNN IS ALIVE
He’ll strike out before advancing to second, just you watch.
Allowing Adam Dunn to reach base is absolutely unacceptable.
Are you serious?
Like…14% serious.
If Phil Hughes can’t retire Adam Dunn despite inducing a routine grounder that Nunez couldn’t field, we clearly can’t trust him come playoff time against the likes of the Red Sox and Rangers.
Haven’t been able to watch the games. I’ve just been watching the GameDays/Casts/Feeds. I’ve noticed that Swisher is “lined(ing) out” a lot. Is he continuously hitting the ball hard straight at people?
Yup
A lot of fly balls…
he’s a phly ball pitcher
Ugh. I would love Nunez so much if he could improve to even mediocre in the field.
I’m of the belief that Dunn has multiple 40 plus homer seasons left in him. He’s just in a REALLY bad first year with new team slump.
I think he has a good dead cat bounce left, but this is a bit more than a slump. Teixeira gets into slumps. Adam Dunn is a black-hole of epic proportions, swallowing outs and dollars like Bartolo swallows hot-dogs.
It’s bad, my friend.
Chicago does that to you, just ask Swish
maybe that means kenny williams will trade him to the yankees for ramiro pena and jeff marquez.
I would like to see if we can set some sort of record for “Most times having traded Jeff Marquez to one team for various good players in the midst of inexplicable career-worst years”. We can get Dunn for Marquez, claim him off waivers in 2012, and then trade him back to CWS again for Danks or Floyd or Alexei.
Thanks for ruining DotF Kay.
Michael,
It’s Ban-way-los, not Ban-UUU-a-los
Thanks – the fans
Actually I think that’s wrong, I just know he’s emphasizing the U way too much
http://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/banuelos
It is ban-u-AY-los
credit: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....-banuelos/
Question for any Scranton-hounds or prospect-gurus out there: Does Manny really pronounce his last name “Ban-YOU-way-los” like Kay keeps saying?
Seems like it should just be “Ban-WEH-los”.
Just curious. Does Kay have it right or is he over-prounouncing the U?
The pronunciation should be “Ban-ooh-eh-los” unless there’s an umlaut over the u, in which it would be “ban-weh-los.”
Replace umlaut with trema, my mistake.
Coming from a guy who knows his Spanish vowels, it’s pronounced Ban-ooo-eh-los.
I think James is right above. Kay’s overemphasizing the U.
Okay, Bawn-wail-os makes more sense.
my guess is that Kay doesnt really get the low down on how to pronounce prospect names so he just wings it. Who would there be in the broadcasting booth to tell him how to pronounce it right? There all stuck in the majors all the time.
Think the “n” has a little “~” over it, which would cause the “u” to sound more prominent. So instead of Ban-oo-eh-los, it’s Ban-yoo-eh-los. Makes the “n” sound like the “gn” in “lasagna”. Mmmm…lasagna….
Called a “tilda” FYI.
Tilde.
The high heat is making the curve ball that much better
Niiiccce
Solid inning. Didn’t hit 95, but the last pitch was 94. Encouraging.
Hopefully this is an improvement instead of facing a shitty offense. It pretty looks legit which is good.
Hughes looks a lot more compact.
I like.
Hey look, Derek Jeter can still hit a baseball
He did hit .292 in july.
It looks to me like Phil really has his legs working under him this start. His leg drive and follow through seem better than they have been.
You actually noticed a difference between this start and prior starts? I hope your right… I need a reason for why Hughes is off to such a strong start. Now let’s see if he can hold this velocity through to the 5th and later.
I’m pretty sure Granderson actually wanted to avoid making an out, but don’t let that disrupt Flaherty’s narrative, Michael.
love jeter since the injury comeback
A pitching and defense team with Adam Dunn at first base
/JohnFlaharty’sLogic
Fuck yeah Tex. What an at bat.
fucking crushed.
Teix Message!
That was a monster at-bat by Teixeira. Monster. As good as it gets.
mark T with an epic at-bat
love it
Nooo too many homers.
STRETCH!!! STAY FAIR…… PUT IT ON THE BOAAAAAAARD!!!! YES!!
fuck you
lolwut?
lol, must be Tourette’s
BOB fucking SAGET
I’m guessing he really hates Hawk Harrelson.
Heheh. I just hate Hawk. The kind of hate I reserve for the Red Sox, fans of the Philadelphia Phillies, and Kevin James.*
*Don’t ask. He knows what he did.
Paul Blart?
Hawk is really bad. But I’ve lived in Florida for 10 years now.
Thank God Kennedy is gone, but the combo of Dwayne Staats/Kevin Kennedy calling the Yanks/Rays games were atrocious.
Just awful. way beyond Hawk fandom.
Way beyond ducksnort and all that jazz.
…Grown Ups?
? y hating?
Ozzie’s probably saying to himself “fakjdfl;jasdlfjkasdfljk!!”
Tex has 30 homers on August 2nd. Wow!
I was about to post the same thing. Incredible. Imagine if he wasn’t as streaky as he is.
They’re hitting rockets off of Danks.
Mark Teixeira hitting bombs from the right side seems so much more badass, I don’t know why.
well it was a really good hit. So that could be part of why it was badass.
dirty 30!
boy we be killin em
[/fabolous’d
WTF? Enough with all the homers, already! They’ll never be able to sustain it!
Have we ever heard a pitchers opinion about throwing to Montero. We hear a lot of scouting reports, but I don’t think I have ever heard a pitcher give either a good or bad review. It might be too much to ask to be completely unbiased in that case though, or completely truthful.
It’s very likely that no pitcher will say anything bad to the media about his catcher.
Except for John Lackey.
Only opinion I personally heard and thought was valuable was Butch Wynegar’s. Very positive.
Since when did you have to be over 21 to get a hat on cap day?
Those fucking communists.
They’re alcoholic.
The hats are laced with absinthe.
How are they freaking out about Hughes velocity when he’s throwing 93?
If Phil’s sitting at 93 then I’m good.
Kay remembers Phil hit 95 in the 2nd inning…right?
I “only” say 94, but yeah, agree. He was being pretty dismissive.
*saw*
Is it really necessary to play The Outfield’s “Your Love” every time a new batter steps up to the plate?
Yes.
Phil’s season is turning into “Velocity Watch 2011″
every.fucking.pitch.
Except for Kay. For Kay, it’s “Wins Watch 2011″.
Phil needs to start catching up to Ivan Nova’s nine wins if he wants to stay in the rotation. The man has nine wins!
NINE!
excellent point. 9 is almost 10 and 10 is double digits.
I wish if they were watching the velocity, they’d watch it every pitch, instead of making general assumptions and getting proven wrong 20 seconds later.
Thanks for beating me to it.
Shit is driving me crazy.
Same as bringing up Jeter’s hit count after every fucking hit.
swings and misses. crazy stuff.
Michael Kay must be mentally challenged if he believes every word Girardi says.
Kay’s pronunciation of Phil’s name (“Yoos”) makes me think of that Curb episode (“Fuck HUGH … Fuck HUGH”)
“That kid of yours, hes got quite a penis”
He’s a porn baby!
St. Phillip of Hughes
I miss the Singleton/O’Neill booth
Same. Blah.
This is Phil Hughes circa April/May 2010.
Mailing in the trivia questions this series.
Is the answer Frank Thomas?
that was a slam dunk
Michael, never use the term “Yankee Nation.” Never.
anyone else notice that the cinderella pirates are falling back to earth?
wowzers
Michael Kay brings up that Thurman Munson cartoon every year.
Were you guys aware that smoking is bad for you?
Fuck these commercials.
I’m taking up smoking.
That was brutal. I kept waiting for it to end.
Yeah, man, same here.
Newsday is reporting that Osi Umenyiora will be traded by week’s end (see rotoworld).
Now, if so, here’s hoping Osi’s agent can coax a 2012 first-round pick as compensation. Can’t wait to get Osi off this team.
Nobody’s giving you a first for Osi. Second, tops.
I’ll give you a third for him to get him to GangGreen.
not a chance they trade him if they only get a third. I think they’ll just end up keeping him.
Even getting a second for him might be a stretch. Teams love draft picks, they don’t part with them for nothing.
Maybe a conditional third that escalates to a second with playing time/ProBowl milestones or something like that.
A la Antonio Cromartie.
Yup, wouldn’t mind him for a third. Curious what the contract would be.
3rd rounder? For what’s likely a pick saddled among the final 3, 4 slots… pass.
Considering Osi wants a new top 3 DE contract, I agree that a 2nd rounder is most reasonable. Here’s hoping a terrible squad like SEA or SF has interest in upgrading the pass rush.
Swish sure has been busy out in right.
Does it annoy anyone else that Thomas’ statue has Nike logos on the batting gloves?
Yes. It annoys Reebox, Mizuno, and Majestic.
Considering that he probably did in real life, not really.
I guess, it just seems that “immortalizing” factory brands (aka sweat shops) is missing the point of a great career. Ah well.
Phil gets his revenge
Also, loving those swinging strikes.
hughes is just mowing them down
my god
Holy crap. Being told repeatedly you suck when you know you suck isn’t going to make you improve? Damn, wish I had known that when I was booing Alex Rodriguez for five years!
HEY YOU THINK YOURE BETTER THAN ME DUNN YOURE NOT BETTER THAN ME YOU SUCK DUNN hey i need more beers is it the seventh inning already oh shit that broad has a great rack HEY BROAD YOU GOT A GREAT RACK
Spectacular.
Dunn: Man, tonight sucked. I was in between the fastball and the slider all night. Oh well, time to go home to my hot wife and young children.
Maybe I’ll take a little dip in our pool of Benjamins, Scrooge McDuck style.
Hope that fan that got his ass kicked by security is OK…
I respect what Kay’s trying to say here, but there’s nothing that could make Dunn worse right now.
Hughes is mowing ‘em down.
Gotta love how YES showed Ramirez tripping on his own bat. +99
Forty-seven pitches in four innings. Nice. Even the fly balls are not being hit hard. Right-handed batters late on the ball.
Yeah, and 35 of those pitches have gone for strikes.
Please, please, please, Phil, be like this the rest of the way (and your career).
maybe he’s phinally phixed.
Beckett gives up another HR, this time to Chisenhall
hope “too many homers” shows up on Sunday.
Lonnie. Chisenhall.
Guess the countdown is on for Manny if they’re showing his stats on Yankees game breaks.
It’s surprising to see the frequent updates. Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during the production meeting in which they decided on that one.
Dear Michael Kay, never say “Thats how I roll” again. K, thanks
“cause that’s how i roll” wow Kay
BUT NOT FLAHERTY.
Kay has been particularly dickish this series.
He’s grumpy that they forced him to make a road trip.
Haha nice Jeet. Kay eats lunch alone.
God, Kay and Flash do such a poor job masking their disdain for each other.
Which is the only entertaining thing they have going on.
hahah, I love how the former player commentators doing the games with Kay always think the absolute lowest of low of him.
I think that O’Neill, Leiter and Singleton are generally joking around when they rip on Kay.
It couldn’t be more obvious that he and Flaherty detest each other though.
Time to mute Kay and Flaherty.
I thought that exchange was actually pretty good. Making fun of Kay seems to be the best way to get some entertainment out of the booth.
John Danks cannot catch a break tonight.
I’m okay with that.
C’mon Robbie, put this game away.
WHEELZ
Why do they always go for the guy at third? If Tex is the guy at first, then throw to second.
David Cone will ride a stallion of truth over Micheal Kay wearing a porcupine hat of sabermetrics.
Dan Marino: Hey Ace, got anymore of that gum?
Ace Ventura: That’s none of your damn business and I’ll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.
Dan Marino: You’re a weird guy, Ace! Weird guy.
love how Tex has 3 SB
wow, double steal with tex at first?
jeebus it aint your night
So, say Hughes pitches 7 or 8 innings, and allows two runs or fewer. I think we can all agree that Hughes would keep his spot. So with that in mind does Nova (or Hughes if someone still thinks that he doesn’t deserve a rotaton spot) go to AAA for at least the rest of the month so they can be called up in September for a possible spot on the postseason roster? Or would they go to the bullpen??
Better yet, what will Hester Prynne do?
Probably tempt one of our good Christian men, that faithless trollop.
Trollop needs to find its way back into mainstream vocabulary.
wow 7% voted for Brackman. 7%!!
PFH
Phil Fucking Hughes
YEAH BRACKMAN. All those troll votes got him above 5%.
It looks like Phil Hughes doesn’t suck/is done, contrary to popular belief.
ESPN will say otherwise, mark my words….
Phil should start being a team player and sucking so that the bullpen can get some work. what a jerk.
today I learned 7% of Toyota Text Poll voters are friends/relatives of Andrew Brackman
Maybe they’re just excited to see freakishly tall pitchers who don’t know where the ball is going.
Jeff Juden always made me laugh.
The car crash kind of potential is there for sure.
I’m surprised 7% of the general Yankee fan population is even aware of the existence of Adam Warren.
I took great satisfaction from the fact that today’s GE Partner Play came from the Yankees.
Hughes for the CGSO.
An EIGHT pitch inning! Eight! For Hughes!
Phil Huge
Fill Huge.
(TWSS)
I wish Alex Rios played to his potential. I saw him coming up in AA in New Haven and was a great guy, very friendly then. Though recently my father was at a baseball dinner where John McDonald of the Blue Jays was the guest speaker (the Blue Jays player who ARod yelled “HA” to in 07) , and when asked about Rios, he flat out said Rios got lazy and complacent.
Hughes making me proud.
Ouch, not a good night for Mr. Jones.
can someone please get me the splits for Posada? I need that information for a morning meeting with Bill Lumberg.
I’m Michael Kay and my favorite stats are wins and hits per last 20 at-bats.
Uhh, Michael. Danks is a good pitcher. Was Danks even on the market?
According to Michael Kay, Danks is terrible because he only has 4 wins.
Phil saying a big F U tonight to all those Yankees fans (me included) who think they don’t have any front end starters behind CC.
Too bad Nova has nine wins! Hughes does not deserve the spot, because winning this game will not give him nine wins.
Science.
What????????
Bartolo Colon sheds a tear at this comment. Or maybe it was just too hot a pepper on his burrito, not sure.
Wallace Matthews is so fucking stupid…
http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml.....very-night
Back in the day when he covered boxing, he was actually pretty good. As for baseball, I don’t think he knows shit.
I refuse to ever click on a Wally Matthews story and I think all Yankee fans should do the same.
What stupid thing is he saying, or what what horrible thing has he focused on in a Yankee winning game so far?
I admit I clicked and I fully regret it after reading the headline…
“CC should pitch every day for the rest of the season”
I refuse to click on that link. Wally Matt doesn’t deserve the page views.
I’ll probably save a few brain cells too.
ESPN assigns Gordon Edes to cover the Red Sox, and he writes nothing by love stories. ESPN assigns Wally Matthews to cover the Yankees, and he writes crap about the team.
I’m the same. I will not contribute any page views.
It seems to be accepted practice in journalism that the only people qualified to write about the Yankees are Yankee-haters. I think just about every sports columnist for the Times has at some point written how he grew up loving the Dodgers/Giants/Mets and thus hated the Yanks. You’d think there was some genetic flaw in Yankee fans that made them all lousy writers.
And the writers that DID grow up Yankee fans (Keith Law, for example) have purposefully become objective as they got jobs in or writing about the game.
See…..I never, ever, go to sites like that. It’s not worth it.
Reading articles by Wallace Matthews is the intellectual equivalent of punching yourself in the junk until you pass out.
Matthews and O’Connor are to covering NY sports what Skip Bayless and Colin Cowherd are to talking about all sports. Loud, dumb and wrong
I actually love Colin Cowherd. I don’t agree with him all the time, but I find him hugely entertaining. I love when he tears into Yankee-haters by telling them the Yankees simply matter more than their team does.
That’ll win my votes. He’s a realist!
Danks (granted, half an inning ahead) has thrown twice as many pitches as Phil.
Which is actually a comedown from last night, when, at some point, Peavy had thrown 3 times as many as CC.
What’s Gardner’s split against lefties?
290/389/355, .342 wOBA, 112 wRC+
not including today
How long do you think Kay’s been saving that “riding the L train” joke for?
Wait how many winds does Nova have again??
Depends on bean consumption.
Nova has that I’m going back to Scranton look.
Not with nine wins!
Yeah. Nova is up one on Colon so he should be the one to stay.
hahaha. my thoughts exactly
Unfortunately, Hughes’ velocity in the first inning may give the Yankees reason to use him in the bullpen…
I’d actually be okay with Hughes in the bullpen for the playoff run if it comes to it. But as much as I love watching Colon and Garcia, I still have a large amount of doubts both will last into the postseason.
Johnny Vander Meer can breath a sigh of relief, Ervin Santana gave up 2 hits in the second
(well he could if he were alive)
64 pitches through 6?
He’ll have 9 wins in no time!
Well the White Sox certainly don’t have a problem hitting with RISP tonight
Hughes is dominating these motherfuckers.
ERA below 7…its falling faster than a ten cent hooker’s pants on double coupon night.
Hughes has been fantastic
Time for Aj to slip in the shower.
I’d be ready for the ‘Hughes to the 8th! Jokes’ except that they make me sad about Joba.
+ 1
I still have no clue how this guy was relegated to the bullpen: http://www.baseball-reference......7290.shtml
Young starting pitchers who can dominate a major league offense for 8 innings need to be groomed, not kicked to the curb. Blegh.
This is actually my favorite Joba game: http://www.baseball-reference......7250.shtml
That was just a couple weeks prior to the fateful game in Texas when he fell on his arm trying to avoid a throw from our then-catcher Ivan Rodriguez. He’s never thrown as hard or pitched as well since.
He’s never thrown as hard or pitched as well since.
————————
Not entirely true he has thrown as hard and pitched well but it has been few and far between. It sucks what happened to his career.
The Fenway *exhales* He was the talk of the town the next day. It seemed like we had a young ace in the making on our hands.
I agree they should be groomed not banished to the pen to fill a role that other relievers have filled over the yrs. All I heard since he came up was he’s the only one that can pitch the 8th inning lol. Drob, Hughes, and Wood(for half a season) say hello.
Anybody else think that US Cellular Field is unbelievably dark and depressing looking?
I think it looks worse on TV than any stadium aside from the Trop
Doesn’t touch Oakland.
You could clearly see Phil Hughes mouth “Hester Prynne, suck my nuts” while walking back to the dugout.
so far he’s laid 6 eggs on the scoreboard
It looks like even AJ can dominate this lineup.
Jeter is swinging the bat great recently (even though that liner was right at de Aza)
Ugh, ugly swing at the high fastball.
It must suck to be Mully and Hanley in the Morning.
Post season starters
CC
Colon
Nova
Garcia/Aj
Pen
Mo closer
Sori set up
Robertson fireman
Hughes righty power arm
Banulos lefty power arm
Romero loogy
Stop. We’re enjoying a pleasant evening here.
Nova’s going to have a tough time cracking the postseason rotation while pitching for Scranton
Megatron
Both sides of the plate.
2 Tex Messages!!
also watch out Joey Bats
You’re on the Mark, Tiexeira!
Sterling must be having a seizure tonight.
too bad he didnt do the cubs game
we’re gonna get stuck with some overages soon for all these Tex messages…..
Tex smells .260, baby.
I want Phil Hughes to succeed so badly because I was at this game and it was by far my favorite Trenton Thunder game out of the many that I’ve attended. I’ll never forget it: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....38;t=g_box
What? I was told Tex only knew how to pop up and strike out on change ups…..
Don’t look now, but Tex is getting hot. We all know what he can do when he gets on a roll. Me like.
For those who were so sweating his dropping batting average last week: he’s up to .256. Add another hundred points in on-base, 31 homers and stellar play in the field…I say we keep him.
He’s just a better-gloved Giambi. Worthless, at that. Dump his sucky ass.
New around here, but damn Phil has looked good tonight…A lot of fly balls to right field but nothing seems to be hit that hard, and he doesn’t look like he’s in “chuck-and-duck” mode…it looks like he’s confident in his pitch selection. I mean the White Sox don’t have the best offense but still Hughes made the A’s offense look good.
PS. I’m a free agent next year, lookin at you Cashman.
call me cynical, but I don’t think this is the real CMW
I’m trying so hard not to point out the spelling error.
Haha, I noticed it only when I typed the name into baseball reference and came up empty. But I’m keeping my name as is just because.
Because you’re actually Bruce Chen?
I totally am, I have my translator guy typing this as i dictate…Washington is great btw, but as Micheal Kay is surely aware, I have the most wins of any Yankee starter from 06-07 and winning games is the best way to judge a pitcher.
how do you like running the bases?
I learned to jog.
Bruney!!!
my favorite Bruney moment was when he got into Krod’s face.
Brennan Boesch > Mike Adams
Welcome to not the NL West
I wish that one drunk guy who keeps yelling would go home.
Ozzie?
LOL!
Just got home, anyone got a little scouting report on Hughes tonight?
Vintage 2010 before the ASB
Thats great, especially against this White Sox offense. He deserves a spot.
Threw 95 at times
Good hook and cutter
Phil Huge was a nasty bitch tonight.
A walk and a steal from Robbie? Bizarre.
He’s been stealing some bases lately. Maybe he’s been working on his speed.
Just a little high lol
Just got in and MLB TV has blacked me out. How has Hughes looked?
Also a nice game for Tex thus far.
Like a tank.
I’m afraid to say he hasn’t looked good. He keeps throwing the ball over the plate for strikes, and after hitting 95 mph several times in the first, he’s only been ablt to hit 94 mph since.
You are batshit insane.
thought the sarcasm was pretty blatant in that one
I make a sad face. I was only fooled because I know some posters would say what he said truthfully!
Humor, my friend, humor.
The sox have yet to touch second base. No walks, 95mph, 3 weak grounders. I’d say pretty good
He’s actually looked good, not over powering, though he’s touched 95 a couple times. But he’s kept the White Sox off balance and has stayed ahead in the count. This is gonna sound cliche as shit but you can get away in the MLB at 91-93 if you locate it well and mix up your pitches.
It sounds that Hughes has added some more velocity since his last couple starts and has been able to maintain it better throughout the game which is great. Hughes has probably earned himself a couple more starts so it might be best to demote Nova to AAA until the next DH and re-evaluate at that point.
Looks like someone lit a fire under Hughes, and he has responded. The soap opera continues. I’m liking his aggressiveness, finally driving and locating his fastball again.
If Nova does the same this week, now what?
I like this dilemma.
Are we gonna get to see Brian Bruney and his Nazi tattoos this inning?
Holy Crap, Brian Bruney is alive?!?!
Not that he was a great Yankee or anything, but Bruney’s one of those guys who looks wrong in any other uniform.
Scratches head.
Bruney has 1 win. Hughes has 1 win. Bruney = Hughes.
Kay’d
but you forgot that Hughes was an All-Star last year
Wow…Hawk Harrelson just rooting for the ball to go foul.
You never heard him before?
Oh I have (previously lived in Chicago). It still just amazes me each time.
Hughes cut his hair. That’s what happened. He’s the anti-Sampson.
Hughes has stuff that can be shut down in the pen
Nova horrible in the pen
I honestly don’t care who goes to the pen for the postseason, or even the stretch run. For me, its more important to see Hughes reach his potential as a starting pitcher for this team in the long term.
What, you guys can’t say one thing? EVEN THE GUY WHO CAN’T THINK SAID SOMETHING! You guys just stand there? Come on!
rain delay probably means Hughes is done, that sucks.
long top of the inning + rain delay = no more Hughes
Argh, only 65 pitches thrown too.
That seems fitting though. Phil’s number is 65.
Ha, my brother is a weatherman in Chicago and he told me there would be another delay. Pretty good prediction.
Your Bro is Brick Tamlin?
He does love lamp.
but did your brother also predict that it would not actually rain during the first radar delay? (If so I will be impressed) I think weather man and baseball players are alike. They can each bat .300 and continue to “be successful” in their careers.
Impossible. You can’t predict baseball. You know Suzyn…
FUCK THIS RAIN. Bah. An amazing start by Hughes cut short.
Stupid fake 45 minute rain delay is going to deprive Hughes of his CGSO
Is this shit for real.
just call the game. seriously.
Figure if not for the bone-headed delay at the start, the game’d be over by now and they wouldn’t be dealing with this right now.
Epic fail on the part of the CWS’s grounds crew.
Fuck
There goes hughes
Bruney might not have had a great career as a yankee but I find it hard not to like the guy. Plus he does have one win and we all know about how important the Win is for pitchers.
funny off topic story real quick I remember I was listening to the Micheal Kay Show one day and he was defending the Randy Johnson signing as a great one and he said “He might have had a 5+ ERA but he had 17 wins, the man pitched to the score board, he knew how to win games while he was here.”
That’s just awful, Bruce.
Michael Kay is not the smartest man in the world.
Not for nothing, but trade deadline Hall of Famer Mike Adams just got tagged for a HR by the 2nd batter (Brandon Boesch) he faced as a Ranger.
Welcome to the difference between the NL West and the AL.
“@Ken_Rosenthal
#Rangers’ Adams had allowed only 5 HRs in last 151 2/3 innings with #Padres. Allowed one to Boesch, 2nd hitter he faced as a Ranger.”
Red Sox sideline reporter is much hotter than Yankees sideline reporter
Maybe we can trade Kim Jones for her
isn’t she Mrs Varitek?
if she is, I am very, very jealous
really?? I like Kim Jones actually, but I was thinking the same thing.
Heidi Watney is hotter then Kim, but not as good at her Job. I also find Kim to be quite charming, which Heidi is not.
http://www.totalprosports.com/.....tney-1.jpg
sorry, the really was about Ms. Varitek. (replied in the wrong spot) I don’t get to watch them enough to know how well she does her job. She is very pretty and I am not saying Kim Jones isn’t but Kim does a very good job as a sideline reporter.
Heidi’s job is to look hot. That is pretty much the entirety of her job. In that regard, she greatly exceeds Kim Jones.
Kim Jones isn’t all that charming and she’s definitely not hot. Her questions are pretty redundant and/or dull. She does seem a bit more natural when interacting with the players though. So she’s got that.
Can’t stand Kim Jones. Her questions are terrible (she usually puts the answer she wants in the question so it’s like she’s interviewing herself) and I really hate how after losses she gets all sad in her voice like a family member just died.
literally thought the exact same thing, lmfao.
#3 in the link, in case anyone hasn’t seen her
http://www.bareknucks.com/top-.....-reporters
Looks like it’s probably just me, but I still wasn’t overly impressed by this start from Hughes. All fastballs, very few curves or changes. Tons of pitches up and over the middle of the plate, just a bad offense who helped even more by swinging at some terrible pitches.
There might be a little bias, and it’ll probably be even worse if Nova gets hit a bit on Thursday, but that’s still the way I’d go.
I wish the RABers would just IP ban this troll already.
I really wish the did pitch by pitch updates so I could shut him up with some stats/knowledge/facts but alas they don’t.
Shut me up? This is the first comment I’ve posted all game.
I agree with you. Still a good start, but he made a lot of hittable pitches, which luckily were missed. Still a good sign for Phil though.
Huh??? How am I a troll? I’ve been here a long time. God forbid someone have an opinion outside the groupthink that constantly happens here. Sorry for having seen more improvement and better results from Nova than Hughes.
Geez, overreact much?
Overall this year, yeah Nova has been better but to say this wasn’t a good outing by Phil is just wrong. When I said shut you up I meant about Hughes who I feel from watching this game had a very good outing. He was up in the zone a little with the fast ball but he threw more/better breaking balls then you are giving him credit for.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....revDate=82
6 changeups and 4 curves in 64 pitches, without a single swing and miss. That’s not enough against a good offense.
And I didn’t say it wasn’t a good outing. It was fine, did what he had to do against a poor offense, just still not overly impressed by much of it. The velo was better, which is a start, but the location didn’t impress me and the invisibility of consistent secondary pitches is still an issue.
They never hit his fastball… you don’t throw anything else until they prove they can hit it. He was on a freakin’ roll.
In general though Hughes has better hit and miss stuff than Nova.
Plus fastballs are the worst pitches and should be thrown as infrequently as possible.
I don’t know if I’d called a fastball averaging 92.5, with what is apparently not much movement, a plus pitch. Especially since even with that average, the velo dropped several mph since the start of the game. Based on a rough look at his velo graph, he’s only gotten to 93 once since around the 30 pitch mark.
For what it’s worth, according to Gameday, he hit 93-94 six times after his 30th pitch and once was in the 5th inning. It was a downward trend though. Also, just to pick one of Hughes’ better starts from last year (4/21 near no-hitter vs Oakland) to compare 4-seam fastballs:
4/21/10: 92.55 (avg), 94.1 (max), -5.99 (avg h-break), 10.58 (avg v-break), -2.8225 (linear weights)
8/02/11: 92.52 (avg), 95.1 (max), -4.76 (avg h-break), 9.57 (avg v-break), -3.4803 (linear weights)
What it means? I’m not really sure since I’m not an expert on pitch movement/break. Just throwing it out there.
Call the game.
Yeah seriously. Do the CWS really think they will/can rally from 6 runs down?
Stupid thing is that Hughes won’t come out after the delay & only threw 65 pitches.
Dumb.
Can’t qualify as a full step forward – merely a stutter-step forward.
Yeah, no. This is most definitely a full step forward. Those 65 pitches were quality. Best velo and best location of the year, easily. Mechanics looked great. Dropping and driving again.
Your second sentence fragment did a good job of describing your third.
That sucks for Hughes. He was headed for a CGSO. Now he’s headed for the showers. Great bounceback, kid. Make it a tough decision for Girardi.
2nd time in a week that the rain literally rained on a Yankee pitching n fire. CC had a no-no going until…
CC had a PERFECT GAME going. Mother Nature is a bitch.
Dome. (not really though, I hate baseball inside) Just crappy luck
The White Sox can get a dome for all I care. I hope the Yankees never go that route though.
Fair enough. I agree
actually as long as they don’t have a white roof. Thanks Tampa!
Hey we may still get the Hughes CGSO. All that matters now is that we have an official game. Very positive outing.
I know this is random, but there’s a fan at the Mariners game who is dressed and looks almost exactly like Ichiro, sitting field level near Ichiro in RF. Even funnier, he just interfered with an Ackley triple and got ejected from the game.
that sounds like that old coot in Tampa that looks just like Joe Maddon.
Philosophical question. Does a true Yankees and baseball fan root for the game to be called and get the win, or for the entire game to be played in order to enjoy the full experience?
I think it depends on the circumstance. Today the game was all but out of reach for the White Sox, and with the frustration of the first rain delay of this game (where there was no rain) I just wanted it to be over with.
Blame it on the Rain, yeah, yeah!
Blame it on the Rain, yeah, yeah!
‘Cause the rain don’t mind…and the rain don’t care…
Did the YES Network seriously not sell any other commercial space tonight? Enough with that quitting smoking commercial already. I feel out of breath every time it comes on.
It was part of the bailout they spent a million per commercial.
And,as a smoker it doesn’t make me want to quit anymore, and I don’t feel bad for the man because he knew what he was doing. Whether smoking was advertised as good or bad when he was younger you know that what your doing isn’t good for you every time you light up.
Yeah, exactly. Everyone’s responsible for their own actions. I smoke on and off, and honestly, I know what I’m getting into so something like this doesn’t scare me. The frequency of these commercials, however, makes me all crazy-like and I keep wanting to run FOR my pack of cigarettes.
I’ll take the cheesy Edge commercials any day!
Haha, I’m in complete agreement.
And,as a smoker it doesn’t make me want to quit any more than I already do, and I don’t feel bad for the man because he knew what he was doing. Whether smoking was advertised as good or bad when he was younger you know that what your doing isn’t good for you every time you light up.
sorry for the double post btw.
CMW smokes?
yeah, I picked it up after the whole foot thing…it eased the stress and I got hooked.
Who is Chen Ming Wang?
Who is Chen Ming Wang?
Youk is such a prick…
You know who else are pricks?
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/ro.....on-red-sox
speaking of pricks, Papelbum stepping to the mound…
Lord and Lady Doutchebag!
Bye Bye Youk! Ya damn baby, stop whining!
he is such a tool…
You call that eating a burger? Ya bum!
Its pretty sad to see a guy who has been in the leauge as long as Youk get tossed for arguing balls and strikes. Very childish.
oh..that’s right, he’s gritty. my bad.
Damn it I missed it. What happened?
assuming you are talking about Youk? he got thrown out arguing with the 1st base ump on a check swing for strike 3. The ump let him vent but he started up again right before he entered the dugout and thats when he got tossed.
Bottom line is, Hughes failed to go 7 tonight. AAA it is.
LOL Mets
What happened?
Isringhausen fail second night in a row.
Mets were leading 3-2 over the Marlins in the top of the ninth. The Marlins had the bases loaded with one out. John Buck hit a tailor-made double play ball at Justin Turner and he threw it away allowing two runs to score.
I see Justin Turner went to the Luis Castillo school of how to make game ending plays.
And for that, we thank you Justin.
Salty PRing? oh lord…
Sweet. Now go home and do your 40 year old gym teacher wife.
Hughes CGSO, right?
yanks win, cg for hughes, question is does teix get credit for his 30 hr
Yup.
for #30, yes. #31, no.
Question: Why is Papelbon’s FIP so much lower than his ERA 3.50 ERA / 1.90 FIP. Is it because of the awful BABIP and mediocre strand rate?
High LD%/ low GB% I think.
He’s striking more people than DRob and he’s walking much much less. That’s why his FIP is so low.
How do you figure he’s striking out more people than Drob? Drob has 8 more and 2% more K/9
They called it. We win!!! 1st place, maybe???
ballgame over!
fucking Indians
Fuck them! I’m excited for this weekend but will keep it in perspective.
fucking Ellsbury
i blame varitek..what business does he have getting a hit. and this reddick is a pain in the ass.
Hughes CGSO!!!
Wow. Yadier really one upped Youkilis there. Ten upped him or something.
haha I was just thinking that.
ooh that sucks! Tex’s 2nd homer has to come off the books.
No, it doesn’t. They announced that all the stats count. Why? I dunno. Sometimes it seems like baseball makes up rules as they go.
This helps me in my HR Pool.
Because the Yankees didn’t take the lead in that inning, the game is over and the stats all count. If they had taken the lead, they would have had to suspend the game (the HR would still count). A few years back, they would have reverted to the last fully completed inning, so if Teix had hit a go ahead shot it would have come off the books.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong. I just remember that it used to be ridiculous when a team was leading 3-2 with a 2-run hr in the top of the 7th they could lose 2-1 if the bottom wasn’t completed. Now, they just favor a bunch of suspended games.
woohooo, game called