Game 117: Just Another Series


T'was a good time the last time CC pitch against the Rays at home. (Getty)

We’ve grown accustomed to these second half series against the Rays meaning something. I mean really mean something. The two teams (along with the Red Sox) were always bunched together in the AL East and games this like this one tonight would play a big role in determining who would go to the postseason and who would go home in early-October.

But now, this is just another series. The Rays have fallen back to Earth a bit, and currently sit 8.5 games back of the Yankees for the AL wildcard. Baseball Prospectus puts the Yankees’ playoff odds at 99.2%, but Tampa’s at just 0.9%. Now don’t get me wrong, the Rays are obviously still a very good team. At 63-54 (with a +41 run differential, fourth best in the AL), they’d be in first place in the AL Central and in second place in the NL West and NL Central by just one and two games, respectively. But as far as the Yankees are concerned, this is just another game, just another series without any major ramiifications in their pursuit of a postseason berth. Here’s the lineup…

Derek Jeter, SS
Curtis Granderson, CF
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Nick Swisher, DH
Andruw Jones, RF
Russell Martin, C
Eduardo Nunez, SS
Brett Gardner, LF

CC Sabathia, SP

The game will begin a little after 7pm ET and can be seen on YES. Enjoy.

Categories : Game Threads


  1. Nigel Incubator-Jones says:

    And for those of you who don’t get YES, it should be shown on the MLB network (Also a chance you could get Phils Nats regionally).

    For some reason I always check the game thread post to see if I can watch the game (national showing), usually Mike has it up there, but not today. It took me 3 extra clicks to find out if it was natioanlly televised!!!

  2. Jesse says:

    This game will either be 1-0, 2-1, 9-8, or 5-4

  3. James says:

    Sabathia looks like a grizzle bear in that photo. I’d love for him to go 6 and 0 down the stretch and win the Cy Young.

  4. Winston Smith says:

    Brian Cashman said AJ Burnett is still a starter. I guess that makes Hughes’s start tomorrow meaningless and that he’ll be going to the pen after Saturday.

  5. Esteban says:

    Hey, I learned today that Jorge Posada was good defensively last year and should still catch. What did you all learn?

  6. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    sigh…that Liberty Mutual commercial is back…

  7. Kramerica Industries says:

    Have the Yankees ever won a game between Sabathia and Price?

    I can remember three meetings, and the Rays won all three. I can’t recall another meeting the two have waged. Fortunately, the Yankees have done a fairly solid job against Price in two meetings this season.

    As far as tonight and this series goes, the Rays are certainly the more urgent team. As long as the Yankees don’t get swept, the Rays will remain largely irrelevant in the playoff race going forward. But a big series by TB and things will start to get a little bit interesting once again.

    But I like the odds of it not happening.

  8. Fun fact: Troy Tulowitzki and Evan Longoria have compiled 24.4 fWAR and 23.5 fWAR, respectively. They’re both under 27. It’s gonna be a great time watching those two over the next 10-15 years.

  9. Mike Axisa says:

    A-Rod hit a homerun on the first pitch he saw tonight.

  10. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    10 pitches 9 strikes.

  11. YankeesJunkie says:

    Perfect through 2. Perfecto watch has begun!

  12. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    Jeter never making an error on balls in his uh, immediate vicinity, is something that we are truly spoiled by.

  13. Mike Axisa says:

    Betances just struck out Bryce Harper swinging. Shaping up for a good DotF tonight.

  14. Mike Axisa says:

    A-Rod’s second at-bat: a double.

  15. Jesse says:

    Banuelos 2 runs in his first inning. He seems to struggle in the first inning, so with that in mind, why would having him pitch in relief be a good idea? Also his numbers vs lefties aren’t that stellar either.

  16. Cy Pettitte says:

    what the fuck.

  17. Pat D says:

    That sucks.

  18. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Martin’s fault

  19. YankeesJunkie says:

    WTF just happened.

  20. Dela G says:

    Wow, kotchman is one strong ass man

  21. JB says:

    2 feet outside the zone. damn.

  22. Jesse says:

    btw for those who have it. is showing the Trenton Thunder game. They normally don’t show AA games.
    Anyways, back to the Yankee game…..

  23. Cy Pettitte says:

    ok. this game is about to be turned off.

  24. Esteban says:


  25. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Also Martin’s fault

  26. Pat D says:

    Great time to become homer prone against mediocre hitters.

  27. YankeesJunkie says:


  28. Dela G says:

    Wow what the eff, back to back by those two ????

  29. Winston Smith says:

    What the hell is CC doing? We’re in big trouble if CC and Mo can’t get their shit together.

  30. Kramerica Industries says:


  31. Dino Velvet says:

    CC doesn’t opt out, now.

  32. Mike Axisa says:

    CC’s homerun rate is regressing. Sigh. That’s three in his last 6+ innings.

  33. King George says:

    Wow, CC. Get it together. Pathetic.

  34. Cy Pettitte says:

    fuck this.

  35. Pat D says:

    Holy motherfucking Christ.

  36. JB says:

    you gotta be kidding..

  37. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    That one’s on Martin

    • Pat D says:

      Being serious are you?

    • Matt says:

      You’re an idiot, plain and simple. Maybe you want to actually read before you criticize posts you admittedly have never seen.

      I blame Martin for PITCH SELECTION, when the pitcher hits the glove with a well executed pitch and gives up a booming base hit.

      Sabathia missed his spot by two feet when the catcher set up away.

      If you can’t distinguish between these two obviously different situations, then you really should stop posting, especially since you don’t even know what you’re referencing. Don’t you feel stupid?

      • V says:

        I knew I could count on you.

      • Owen Two says:


        I blame Martin for PITCH SELECTION, when the pitcher hits the glove with a well executed pitch and gives up a booming base hit.


        * Girardi’s Magic Binder says a batter can’t hit a slow curve
        * Martin calls for a slow curve
        * The pitcher throws a quality slow curve
        * The batter hits the ball to the moon

        Do you blame Martin for the pitch selection?

        • Matt says:

          Pulling completely hypothetical scenarios out of nothing doesn’t really prove much of a point, but I’ll oblige you anyway to show how your argument isn’t entirely solid.

          Consider that the catcher still called the pitch. It’s his job to read the bat and call the appropriate pitches. Maybe the reason he hit that slow curve was that it was thrown in an at bat in which it was the 3rd time that he had seen the pitch, or one in which he had seen only offspeed pitches and was starting to wait back on them and foul them off with authority.

          In isolation, it’s hard to glean anything. However, when you throw the pitch that the hitter is clearly looking for, it’s obvious that someone failed miserably at setting him up for that pitch.

  38. YankeesJunkie says:

    Oh my…..

  39. Ivan says:


  40. Jerome S. says:

    [turns on game]

  41. Jerome S. says:

    [turns on game]

  42. Nuke LaDoosh says:

    i hope the phat phuk opts out ;)

  43. Esteban says:

    Well this is just ridiculous now. At least they’re solo shots.

  44. Winston Smith says:

    Start warming up Noesi. CC’s got no command. He’s got nothing.

  45. Kramerica Industries says:

    Seriously – Kotchman must’ve made a deal with the devil prior to the season.

    Four months as a starter, still hitting .340. Truly insane, and I’d wager a hefty sum he never aproaches these marks ever again.

    As I type this, C.C. tagged again. What. The. Fuck.

  46. ItsATarp says:

    Get rid of CC, he sucks obviously

  47. King George says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHA, oh man CC. This is awful. Get out of the game. Come back when you’re ready to not give up 3 HR in one inning.

  48. teddy says:

    damm it cc

  49. rconn23 says:

    Just awful. He’s just throwing batting practice.

  50. mike says:

    Et tu, CC?

  51. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    I feel the presence of a certain commenter…

  52. karel capek says:

    CC turns into AJ Burnett during a full moon.

  53. ItsATarp says:

    2 pitches up and in that got hit out…CC is terrible at pitching, get rid of him, we’re doomed.

  54. rconn23 says:

    C.C. Not the same since being brought back from the second rain delay. I don’t know, but…

    • Winston Smith says:

      If he’s injured then he needs to tell the club about it. Mo too. Somebody needs to talk to these guys and make sure everything’s ok.

      • ItsATarp says:

        2 bad happens. Even the two pitches that were hit out weren’t exactly meat balls. They were up and in that Damon and Kotchman guess right on.

  55. King George says:

    In all seriousness, he has little to no control…

  56. Karl Krawfid says:

    It’s the ugly ass shoes CC has on.

    Had to watch CC pitch today :(

  57. Dino Velvet says:

    Maybe it’s the extra weight he’s gained.

  58. Winston Smith says:

    After Cashman’s staunch defense of AJ Burnett today one has to wonder if CC is now the odd man out of the rotation.

  59. bonestock94 says:

    That was a confusing inning. Maybe CC can use a rest.

  60. Esteban says:

    It’s funny how certain posters are much more vocal when things are not going well for the Yankees.

  61. HolyGhostClaw says:

    I’ve go the game on right in front of me but I am working on my Dad’s laptop and haven’t been watching pitch by pitch. But I’ve been getting that sharp stabbing feeling in my stomach that I got that night a few years ago when the Red Sox hit those back to back to back to back HR’s against us.

    But anyway, does anyone think he’s maybe tipping his pitches?

    • Mike Axisa says:

      I doubt it, those were all terrible pitches. Kotchman hit a pitch out of the zone, the changeup to Shoppach was right down the middle, and CC missed his spot by feet to Damon.

  62. Mike Axisa says:

    We haven’t had a Jeter first pitch GIDP in a while. Oh memories.

  63. ItsATarp says:

    Off course Jeter

  64. rconn23 says:

    Well this game will be over in record time if C.C. is pulled and Price keeps pitching the way he is. Geez.

  65. Jerome S. says:

    Evaluation of Cashman’s contract: Terrible
    Evaluation of AJ’s pitching: Below average


  66. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    I wonder what it would be like if AJ played for Ozzie Guillen.

  67. Will says:

    Captain DP. Sometimes I wonder how beast this team could be if we had good offensive production from our SS, C, and DH. Sheesh. We could be 5 games up on the Sawx if that were the case. Too many underperformers and holes in lineup type guys on this team.

  68. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:


  69. Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan says:

    Lame, Martin.

  70. Jerome S. says:

    Russel Martin: Terrible


    • Matt says:

      We’ve had plenty of time to judge Russell Martin. Pretty much league average. 6th best catcher in the AL on WAR, 7th best hitter of any catcher in the league with at least 70 games played.

        • Matt says:

          You attack other posters who don’t agree with you through veiled insults and sarcasm, because they can’t possibly be as smart as you.

          Do you know what Martin’s line is since April?


          So when people criticize Martin, it is not because of some irrational hatred for him or frustration at one play. It is because he has been pretty horrible offensively for a 3.5 month stretch, and thus he can’t afford to make ANY mistakes on defense to provide value to the team.

  71. teddy says:

    montero can do that to

  72. Mike Axisa says:

    Good trivia. Hinkse, Braun, Ichiro … who’s the fourth?

  73. teddy says:

    another day, another game where teix doe nothing with the bat. if this was arod he be getting killed

  74. Wooderson says:

    this game feels so meaningless its just fun to watch no matter what’s going on, we haven’t had one of those in a while. in other news, my hometown (and former team) Paramus, NJ is going to the finals in the mid-atlantic division in the little league world series!

  75. Cy Pettitte says:


  76. Winston Smith says:

    No excuse for Swisher to get beat there. Double in the gap, you must score from 1st.

  77. Mike Axisa says:

    That was some relay by Rodriguez.

  78. Cy Pettitte says:

    ok i give up. ELLIOT JOHNSON?

  79. YankeesJunkie says:


  80. Mike Axisa says:

    CC’s trollinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

  81. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    what the fuck is this?

  82. Winston Smith says:

    Get him out of this ballgame already before it gets out of hand. Jesus. He’s got no command!

  83. JohnnyC says:

    Elliot fucking Johnson????!!!!!

  84. Erica says:

    Wowowwowowowowowowowow. WOW.

  85. Jerome S. says:

    Elliot Motherfucking Johnson.

    Lineup adjusted, this might be CC’s worst start.

  86. rconn23 says:

    This is way worse than the Red Sox start. There’s something very, very wrong here. Very wrong.

  87. Cy Pettitte says:

    this team is fucking terrible. kill them all Cashman.

  88. Ethan says:

    Anyone think CC might be overworked?

    • JohnnyC says:

      CC said earlier this week that he wants to pitch every 5th day, no extra days. So, whatcha gonna do?

    • Matt says:

      CC has good velocity still and a sharp slider. He’s just making a few mistakes with his fastball when hitters are cheating on the pitch inside repeatedly.

      If he were tired, you’d expect to see either a decline in velocity, or him getting beaten on offspeed pitches because he’s losing some arm speed on say his changeup. Neither has been the case. Simply a few bad pitches in an otherwise good start.

  89. Jetrer says:

    this game is just fucked all around

  90. ItsATarp says:

    Wow…come on Cano

  91. rconn23 says:

    Pull him now. We can still win this game. Never seen him look so bad out there.

  92. thaaayankeeswin says:

    are they stealing signs? how are all these scrubs hitting home runs

    • amr5026 says:

      Is he tipping his pitches?

      • Matt says:

        No. The opposing team is only hitting mistake fastballs inside when the target was away, aka they are just sitting on one pitch and hoping he continues to make mistakes.

        • Mike Axisa says:

          Shoppach hit a changeup. He’s just missing his spots, that’s all.

          • Matt says:

            Why was this necessary? Obviously I know that.

            I’m giving him the basic run down. 3 of the 4 home runs were from hitters cheating on fastballs when he was trying to go away. The changeup that was hit out was for a similar reason- up in the zone while the hitter was trying to get the bat head out.

            If he gets it down Shoppach probably grounds out because he’s pulling off of it.

        • amr5026 says:

          Ah. Thanks. I only have the game available on radio right now. John Sterling and all.

    • JFH says:

      “The man in white” was hired by the Rays.

  93. ItsATarp says:

    We should take CC out of the rotation after these last two starts…like we should do with AJ

  94. Jerome S. says:

    Brett Gardner is awesome. No one else makes that play.

  95. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    I just left for a little bit and what the hell. how does “Desmond Jennings doubles on a pop up to second basemen Robinson Cano?”

    • Winston Smith says:

      Flyball to shallow right. Robbie goes out there and tries to catch it over his head and he drops it. Andruw Jones was nowhere in sight.

    • Ethan says:

      Scorers are idiots. Should be a single and E4. If Cano doesn’t touch that ball he doesn’t get to second.

      • CUYanks says:

        That’s not how it works. In the rule book it explicitly addresses this. I.e. if a player dives for a ball and turns a single into a triple, or a player dives in front of another play to turn a groundout into an infield single, so be it.

        You can argue it should be a straight E4 (reasonable), but a single and an error is out of the question unless it bounced first.

        • Ethan says:

          oh i hadn’t realized that. That seems like a awfully stupid rule, in my opinion at least.

          • CUYanks says:

            Yeah I see your point. It’s kinda just tough I guess to guess on the in between plays how many bases the batter deserves. That being said, it must be very irritating for a pitcher whose fielder turns a single into extra bases, etc.

  96. Cy Pettitte says:

    “and that will do it….for the second out”

    real smooth.

  97. JB says:

    CC has to lose some weight. i mean come on, look at that belly. it certainly can’t be helping.

  98. Karl Krawfid says:

    Yall want CC to lose weight.

    I want him to find command.

  99. Mike Axisa says:

    Three innings of Noesi, pls.

  100. Karl Krawfid says:

    Montero goes deep.

    Call him up.

  101. CUYanks says:

    CC at least has a 7:0 K:BB ratio

  102. Jorge says:

    CC’s performance tonight underscores how much the team _____________ and is need of ______________. They should have traded for _____________ but, because they didn’t, and because they haven’t __________-ed Burnett and Posada yet, as well as _______________-ed Montero, they are doomed.

    • Cy Pettitte says:

      Jorge is so bored in the dugout he’s doing mad libs.

      • Jorge says:

        That Jorge may be, but this one’s bored at home with a four week-old son. Also making a lot less money. He also could probably still hit better than I could.

    • Jerome S. says:

      CC’s performance tonight underscores how much the team farts and is need of poop. They should have traded for buttcheeks but, because they didn’t, and because they haven’t shited Burnett and Posada yet, as well as fuckeded Montero, they are doomed.



  103. Jerome S. says:

    Michael Kay masturbates to footage of DJ3K.

  104. Karl Krawfid says:

    Tex is back to sucking again.

  105. Jorge says:

    Just remember, folks: when the Rays to seal the deal, they have to do it with Kyle Farnsworth.

  106. Bronx Byte says:

    This team is flat tonight. No life.

  107. Jerome S. says:

    Meh, wasn’t going to make the play anyway.

  108. Jetrer says:

    Russell with the web gem

  109. Erica says:

    Let’s hope this play by Martin gets the team going…

  110. Cy Pettitte says:

    wtf was Johnson doing? lol

  111. Jedile says:

    Man Martin is starting to get gritty!

  112. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Well, CC struggled tonight…He threw some bad pitches and they made him pay…Our offense struggled against a good young pitcher…we were not able to take advantage of our chances, and that was the difference in the game…We didn’t play a good game, and they beat us…AJ Burnett is still a starter…No, no plans to call up Montero.

    /Girardi’s Postgame

  113. Jorge says:

    There we go. A rally to keep the team in the game until the next barrage of solo home runs by Sam Fuld, Wade Boggs, and John Flaherty.

  114. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Michael Kay, STFU. PLEASE.

  115. The Fallen Phoenix says:

    I’m not sure what’s more frustrating than Michael Kay talking about the length of the games.

    • JohnnyC says:

      What’s more frustrating? The actual length of the games. Unlike people who live in their mom’s basement, everyone has a job to got to early the next day.

      • The Fallen Phoenix says:

        Way to troll, buddy.

        Anyway, yes, the Red Sox-Yankees game was too long last week, and most of it can be attributed to Beckett pulling his best Steve Trachsel impersonation and taking fifteen minutes between pitches. But this game was six days ago, and I’m pretty sure Michael Kay has mentioned it in every broadcast since then.

        Give it a rest, we get it.

  116. ItsATarp says:

    One of those games eh?

  117. Jerome S. says:

    I have the feeling I’m going be saying “fuck Desmond Jennings” for a looooooong time.

  118. The Fallen Phoenix says:


  119. Mike Axisa says:

    What the hell is Sabathia still doing in there?

  120. Jerome S. says:

    Eeehhh, probably shouldn’t have left him in until this inning…

  121. Jorge says:

    If I leave home now, will I get the stadium in time to hit a solo HR off of CC?

  122. Tex sucks says:

    Gonna act like Joe G didn’t bring CC back out.

  123. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    I will be genuinely shocked if Fox mentions that Jeter ceremony at all tomorrow.

  124. RCA says:

    At least this performance by CC confirms that Verlander will win the Cy Young this year, and frankly he deserves it.

  125. Jerome S. says:

    A non-Jeterian GIDP. Wow.

  126. IRF says:

    Jerry Seinfeld and Keith Hernadez >>> Kay and O’Neill

  127. Tex sucks says:

    Brett Gardner clogging up the bases.

  128. Wow says:

    This is encouraging.

  129. tom says:

    That was a very unlucky double play, but…dowqn 4 runs with six outs to go, shouldn’t Derek have taken a second strike on a 3-1 count?

    • Jerome S. says:

      That’s a ridiculously unreasonable criticism.

      • tom says:

        “ridiculously unreasonable?” Seems a bit over the top. It’s not like I said he should be boiled in oil. I just thought, that close to the end of the game, and that close to a base on balls, it would have been worth making a maybe-tiring Price throw another strike. But, you know, YMMV.

      • Matt says:

        Your post is a ridiculously unreasonable attack on a poster who is asking a very reasonable question late in a game.

        • Jerome S. says:

          You see a pitch to hit, you hit it – that’s how you play it. Derek got BAbip fucked.

          • Matt says:

            Or you could force the pitcher to throw 2 strikes before he throws a ball, given that you are 2 baserunners away from being able to tie the game with one swing, Price’s pitch count is elevating, and the hitter at the plate is more of a singles hitter.

            It’s not an unreasonable question. Only to you, who seems to like to disagree just to be nasty to random posters.

            He hit it hard, but that’s not the point. The poster is merely suggesting that it was a spot that called for patience, and you can’t say that it didn’t matter because the 3-1 pitch was a strike, because you don’t know what he would have done on 3-2.

  130. Cuso says:

    game over

  131. Cy Pettitte says:

    Noesi gets ZERO innings. lmao.

  132. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Damon slam

  133. Tex sucks says:

    Hit a Slam Johnny.

  134. Jetrer says:

    at least Ayala is trying to let Noesi pitch

  135. Tex sucks says:

    OMG 10 bombs!

    From 3 to 10!

    Test his ass!

  136. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    YES truck lost track of the outs

  137. Will says:

    I miss the days when sweeping the Rays in a series was the norm.

  138. Rockstar4Life says:

    So some yankee prospect named Alex Rodriguez or something went deep tonight. I wonder if he has a shot of being called up?

  139. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Michael Kay’s Great Quest To Speed Up Baseball Games.

  140. Tex sucks says:

    So this loser is aloud to quick pitch

  141. ItsATarp says:

    At this point i don’t even care if they drop the opener

  142. Dino Velvet says:


  143. Freddy Garcia's 86 mph Heat says:

    Harold Reyonlds just said “Camden Yards at Oriole Park.” hehe.

  144. Tex sucks says:

    Fucking Yankees.

    Call up Montero damn.

  145. ItsATarp says:

    Lol 50% hr/Fb rate this game…

  146. Matt says:

    CC was not as bad as his line, just as Price was not as good as his.

    2 of the home runs came on fastballs that should be impossible to even put in play lefty on lefty. The one by Longoria just kept carrying and looked like it would just be a double off the bat. They pretty much hit every mistake that he threw tonight.

    On the other hand, Price got bailed out big time by his defense. It took a perfect relay by 2 players to get Swisher at the plate, and 1st and 3rd, no outs in the 8th was turned into 2 outs, nobody on with an incredible play by Rodriguez. Price should have had at least 3 runs on his ledger tonight, and likely more if not for some of the borderline at best called strikes he was getting.

    This is not a loss to be too upset about, but this series isn’t entirely meaningless. The Yankees have to win at least one of these games, or the Rays are going to be on the periphery of contention again with head to head matchups remaining. Tomorrow is a big game, because they are slated to face Shields on Sunday.

  147. V says:

    Woah – there’s NO way Zambrano retires and turns down the money he’s owed, right?

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