ALDS Game Two: Tigers @ Yankees
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Five years ago, the Yankees beat the Tigers in Game One of the ALDS. They lost the next three though. The Yankees took Game One of this year’s ALDS against Detroit, and now they have to avoid the same problems that did them in back in 2006. That would be a shaky bullpen behind a banged up starting rotation and a lineup that mustered just six runs after the first game.
Robinson Cano and Ivan Nova set the pace last night. Cano did damage every time he stepped to the plate and Nova tossed up zero after zero. Today’s starter, Freddy Garcia, brings a completely different look to the table. He’ll try to lull the Tigers’ hitters to sleep with offspeed stuff, much like Mike Mussina tried to do after Chien-Ming Wang five years ago.
Andy Pettitte is throwing out the first pitch, like he’s done in countless Game Twos before. Here are the lineups…
Detroit Tigers
Austin Jackson, CF
Magglio Ordonez, RF
Delmon Young, LF
Miguel Cabrera, 1B
Victor Martinez, DH
Alex Avila, C
Jhonny Peralta, SS
Wilson Betemit, 3B
Ramon Santiago, 2B
Max Scherzer, SP
New York Yankees
Derek Jeter, SS
Curtis Granderson, CF
Robinson Cano, 2B
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Mark Teixeira, 1B
Nick Swisher, RF
Jorge Posada, DH
Russell Martin, C
Brett Gardner, LF
Freddy Garcia, SP
The weather in New York is gorgeous, a little chilly but a big blue sky. The game starts at 3:07pm ET and can be seen on TNT (not TBS). Remember, we’re trying to win a ring around here.
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Pettitte is back in the Bronx. I haven’t heard anything about him since he was seen at a game earlier in the season. I believe it was a Cards game, wasn’t it?
Hopefully Andy brings us some of his postseason luck!
I’m missing a huge 3 and a half hour practice exam for this game, and to study for an exam(real) on Wednesday.
Hope I made the right decision. There will be another practice exam, so I think I’m fine.
Worst part is my girlfriend is probably pissed at me. She’s administering the practice exam. What do you think?
Right decision?
If your girlfriend is administering the practice test, I am assuming she is a teaching assistant or something. If so, she can help you out if you need more practice/change your grade if you fail the test.
It’s only practice. There’s one every semester, so I can just take it next semester.
I wish she could change my grade. haha.
Absolutely!!!! Don’t even give it a second thought….
A pissed girlfriend is not a good thing, I’d DVR the game if I was you.
I don’t have DVR capabilities. Sadly.
I have a paper to write (grad school), two labs to grade, and need to prepare a lesson for tomorrow (job).
I’ll be lucky if I get to bed by 2am.
Girlfriends are replaceable, the Yankees are not.
+1
Thanks everyone, it’s already started, so no going back now. She works for a practice exam company called Kaplan. It helps students prepare for MCAT, LSAT, GRE, etc…
I’m studying abroad in China, class tomorrow at 8:30 am. I feel your pain, but Yankees all the way.
I know, it’s killing me. What’s done is done.
If you’re being serious, you’re a true fool. You’re screwing yourself to watch a bunch of millionaires throw and hit a ball around? They don’t care about you.
Relax, I rescheduled for later in the week.
TNT isn’t gonna show Andy throwing the first pitch? not cool.
They’ll probably show it in the middle of the game or something.
You guys know the deal, If El Jefe can survive the first couple of innings, he’s going to have a good start.
I for one would much rather see Fred McGriff and the “Fan Cave” instead of one of the greatest postseason pitchers of all time throw out the first pitch. Thanks TNT!
First pitch was a ball?
Shocking.
I just love it when opposing teams bat guys first with a .317 OBP that strike out too much.
I love trading strikeout prone leadoff hitters for MVP candidates.
While we’re on the topic, when exactly does A-Jax go from being ‘promising’ and ‘toolsy’ to being a ‘bottom of the order hitter who never put things together’?
He’s 24, I give him 2 more years.
Same here, give him a couple more years. He still is a very good defensive center fielder.
Caracas is a bit bigger than a town.
Crawford would had let that one fall in for a hit.
Just play smart baseball with timely hitting and a quality start from Freddy.
fuck that short porch
Damn.
I feel like the low strike is never called these days.
neither is the high strike
Wow Miggy
Holy Shnikies that man is strong
Strong? A check swing is gone in that spot. Two cheap homers for these guys, if a yankee hit it they would be talking about how cheap that shot was.
Dammit Garcia.
Get Hughes warming now. Why you would pitch to him 2-0 I don’t know.
He was pitching him away. Cabrera made the adjustment. More power to him.
Do you know what the word adjustment means?
Garcia needs to start pitching inside on these righty hitters. Same thing as Nova last night. Every one of their hitters is looking to do that. It’s not an adjustment, it’s an approach.
Garcia doesn’t have the velocity to consistently throw inside.
Definitely not true. He’s throwing 88-90 mph, not 82.
You have to throw inside once in a while, or hitters are going to lean out over the plate and drive those offspeed pitches away. You don’t need to be a flamethrower to do it. Hitters are not expecting that pitch, and you can surprise them in there and set up your sequences better.
And if he pitches inside, Cabrera might hit one out to LF. No shame in giving up a homer to Miguel Cabrera.
You will never get a hitter as good as Cabrera out if you throw to one location without overpowering stuff.
Their whole team is taking that approach. They were hitting line drive after line drive right at guys the other way last night. Nova got away with it because his stuff is much better.
Garcia needs to at least plant it in their minds that he will bust them in their occasionally.
If that is how you plan to pitch Cabrera, then don’t even throw him a strike on 2-0. It’s OK to nibble on him, but there is no reason to pitch to him once you are behind in the count if you are going to pound one spot over and over.
lol
Cabrera’s 1.304 career OPS against Freddy Garcia just went up.
Heh.
Mother fucking fucker.
Just that freaking simple. Cabrera strikes.
Shake it off, Fredy. Not a bad pitch at all.
Cabrera just murders the Yanks
He crushes everyone. Best hitter in baseball NPD and their stocks may be heading in opposite directions with age.
he is an equal opportunity murderer. not just the yanks.
Freddy was way too predictable there. Cabrera was just sitting on a pitch down and away. You can’t do that to a hitter as good as cabrera. Just walk him
Bats and bullpens today folks, fasten your seat belts.
I say they need to get one back right away. Don’t let Scherzer get too comfortable.
I support this plan.
Whatever.
Nice bounceback, Fredy.
That freaking Cabrera….
Good bounceback AB from Freddy.
Look, Cabrera is going to beat us a few times in this series–he’s probably the best hitter in baseball (with the possible exception of Joey Bats.)
Take your lumps, move on, and try to keep the guys who hit in front of him off base.
Bold Prediction: Freddy Garcia won’t allow a run the rest of his start.
Only if he IBB Cabrera
Bold prediction: Joba Chamberlain won’t pitch today.
So with that remark you’re implying that Garcia WILL NOT allow a run the rest of his start?
No, I was just being a prick. I hope you’re right.
Shake it off, let’s score some runs.
Why did they pitch to him?
There was a runner on first already.
Freddy gave up a cheap Yankee Stadium homer to arguably the best hitter in the world in the first inning. Everyone freak the fuck out!
Get Hughes up. NOW!
Anyone else LOVE the pitch tracker on the side of the screen?
I hope YES does the same thing next year.
I actually find it annoying. You can barely read the pitch count. You don’t need the worthless plate tracker up there anyway, we know every ump will call it his way.
I prefer the way YES does their graphics.
That’s not the point. Every MLB camera is offset to capture the pitcher and batter, and the pitch tracker corrects for that.
I hate all pitch trackers / K zones. I also hate how announcers treat the pitch tracker like it’s the perfect strike zone.
I like when NESN shows theirs because that’s when Jerry Remy goes into complete homer mode. Absolutely defends it when the call goes the Red Sox’s way, but if it doesn’t, he finds some way to say it isn’t accurate.
It doesn’t have to be perfect, just an improvement over what we have now. I can make my own mental adjustments, I just want something to compare with.
I joined the broadcast a few batters in…who is calling the game for TBS?
If I hear about the ’3 team trade’ one more time, I just might stiock a knife in my ear to reduce the pain.
You’ll hear about it the rest of this series, so get that knife ready.
How about you stop thinking about yourself and use that knife to kill Ron Darling.
I’d use it on Smoltz first.
Really? I’d use it on Darling first, Darling second, Darling third, Darling fourth, Darling fifth, Darling sixth, Darling seventh, Darling eighth, and then Smoltz.
I’m not forgiving Smoltz for last year, though he seems to be better this year.
Darling doesn’t bother me.
You’re right, that’s very selfish of me.
All three teams got premium MLB talent and all three teams are in the playoffs this year. Neither of the teams can be mad about the trades.
Now there’s something I
have heard 5 zillion times in the past 48 hourshadn’t heard before.Fuck
Damn
Damn, Jackson had Jeter played perfectly.
damn you Ajax
Great AB by Jeter, regardless…
Eff you Jackson.
had him played perfectly
C’mon Yanks… They NEED to go back to Detroit up 2-0.
I don’t think they NEED to, but it really helps.
I think they need to. They suck at Comerica.
No they NEED to…
Who said that if we batted Cano third that he would get pitches to hit?
Welp, Detroit’s appropriately terrified of Cano.
Watching Cabrera hit is only enjoyable knowing we have the same type of hitter on the bench. Miggy can hit righties?
Come on ARod, make him pay.
Cano is feared.
He will never be feared until Dan Shaughnessy writes a story about how managers thought about intentionally walking him with the bases loaded.
Haha, what?
During Jim Rice’s last couple of years on the HOF ballot, Shaughnessy would write that he was so feared that opposing managers considered walking him with the bases loaded.
The cold, hard facts were that, of course, it NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED!!!
This will be interesting.
make them pay ARod
Unintentional intentional walk to Cano. Make em’ pay, Alex.
lets go arod
Please get a hit A-Rod.
set the MT25 to take the lead, please.
Sorry this model is stuck on pop out mode.
be patient mark
22 pitches
Well, if the Yankees don’t score this inning at least they made him work.
This is one tiny strike zone
Missing out of the zone, now miss right over the middle of the plate, please
That’s already, made him work.
Got it in on the hands
No hits, but almost 30 pitches!
Big shock, Teixeira pops out.
Ball 4.
Thanks Tex!
Ball five, really. Strike one was ball four.
Was the 3-0 outside or is the TBS strike zone box way off?
I’m beginning to question that myself.
it was outside about 6 inches
Ehh pitch F/x doesn’t agree:
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=3.gif
That’s the same as the TBS box. It was outside, Bad call.
Even though we didn’t score, making Scherzer throw almost 30 pitches in the first inning is a win.
MT25 stuck to fucking towering pop up. ugh.
What am I missing? I am “watching” the game on Gameday and every pitch is called a ball but clearly inside the strike zone. Maybe the ump is having a stroke.
The ump is on crack.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=3.gif
I’ve seen enough to know we can get at this guy pretty soon.
This strike zone confuses me.
Teixeira pops up. #tweetsfromseptember
And Tex pops up….as usual.
Anyway, the good news, 1 inning, 27 pitches. Bad news, no runs.
tiny zone and then the bullshit auto strike on 3-0
A Mark Teixeira special right there
I am so sick of the standard typical Tex pop up.. Holy fuck, 3-1, pitcher can’t throw strikes and this is the shit you produce.
C’mon Tex.
That was on Scherzer. Threw a great pitch in on the hands.
It wasn’t that great of a pitch. Tex swung at a ball.
3-1 count. He’s not paid to walk.
He’s paid to get on base, not pop up. If he didn’t swing, he’s doing his job.
He’s paid to drive in runs as a middle of the order guy.
It’s Jeter, Grandy, and Gardner’s job to get on base.
So you’d rather pop out than draw a walk. Nice logic.
That’s why I give credit the pitcher throwing inside instead of just giving in.
anybody else noticed that Teixeira tweaked his stance? His right foot is much closer to the plate now.
Yes, he was more closed in that particular AB.
Dammit to hell, Teix.
After yesterday’s oppo double, I had high hopes. Silly me.
Tex’s pop-ups are infuriating. Over/under on his HR’s in 2012 with less protection in the 5-hole? I say 19.
teixera seems to be guessing pitches
No he was expecting a 3-1 fastball and Scherzer threw it in a great spot in on the hands.
That wasn’t a great spot. That was shitty hitting.
Give credit to the pitcher for once, wont you?
Why should he have credit? For getting a .240 hitter to pop up on a shitty pitch? Maybe if Cano or Pujols was at the plate, but not Tex.
Catcher was setting up away.
Scherzer didn’t know where the hell his pitches were going.
And he struck out Granderson just for that reason.
What outstanding execution. A fastball right down the middle at the belt in a 3-1 count.
All you do is say the exact opposite of what anyone else posts. Do you have an opinion of your own? You look pretty clueless with these kinds of responses.
I saw it. It was in on the hands.
It wasn’t.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=3.gif
K-Long please fix Teix’s lefty swing during the offseason please
Fuck Tex. Time to trade him to St. Louis on during the offseason. They will pay his whole salary. Then we will just sign Pujols.
Fuck you, Tex.
Haha.
Yeah guys, but his glove is worth $180 mil!
Pujols has a good glove, too.
Righties hit Nova better than lefties.
But whatever.
Good bounce-back inning, Freddy.
Great job by Sweaty Freddy. The quick inning puts the pressure right back on Scherzer.
The Tex hate has officially jumped the shark, guys.
At best, he’s just a better hitting Giambi.
/bringing back a meme
I was just frustrated. I’m not hating him.
You gotta admit that the Tex pop-up is becoming a normal occurrence, no?
Does it need to be pointed out every fucking time?
Apparently. I mean, it has been going on since, like, June, right?
Yes.
If it keeps happening, why hide it???
The pop-up really is worthy of hate every time it happens in a clutch spot. It’s a wholly unproductive out. What if we only hate-comment on it when does it with RISP and less than 2 out? Then we’ll bite our tongues in all other instances. Deal?
I have umpire hate for calling a pitch 6 inches off the plate on a 3-0 count after walking two straight.
How many times will the TBS crew bitch about the Tigers not having Betemit and Santiago in the game to start with yesterday….I mean hell they’re hitting 8 and 9 today. And if a manager is going to start 3 of his worst hitters at the top of the lineup then that’s the big disadvantage, not missing out on the platoon advantage.
That was my favorite car commercial, now star wars division, in a long time.
People already calling for Tiex’s blood? Way to stay classy, guys.
Hey everyone,
Long time follower first time posting. Let’s go yankees
Swish deserves better than just one hit so far.
Oh boy, its one of those BaBip games so far for the Yankees.
Stupid unclutch Nick Swisher doing the same thing as Derek Jeter!
Loud outs. Those have to fall soon, right?
Not necessarily. But it’s still a good sign.
Maybe.
Montero PLEASE.
+1
No Posada hate please.
nice inning guys.
Seriously? What did Scherzer throw, 6 pitches in that inning?
Way to let him off the hook guys.
It happens a lot. One well struck ball, a K, and a groundout… pretty normal occurrence. Plenty more baseball left.
I want Montero in this lineup.
A 7 pitch inning??? WTF???
So worked the count well that inning.
I don’t like these AB’s, they are not conducive to scoring runs.
yeah, swinging at strikes and hitting the ball hard is definitely not conducive to scoring runs
We must be watching a different game. Jeter hit the ball hard – in his first AB
Who after that? Was it the power pop up by Tex? The lazy fly by Swish? Or the screaming missile from Martin?
Your attempt at sarcasm was misplaced.
It would be nice to see a few more pitches after that 27 pitch first inning, but a couple of hard hit balls.
can the announcers shut the hell up about how the 2006 ALDS never made it back to NY
Would everybody shut up with the hate please?
Cant we just talk about the game please?
No mention of the pine tar on Kenny’s hand that mysteriously went away in the WS when he got rocked, again. You know a guy doesn’t think he can get through a lineup if he is willing to put a 4 inch circle of pine tar on his hand. I guess the investigation into that is side by side with Big Papi’s investigation into his positive test for steroids.
Big prediction…if Ortiz signs somewhere else in the offseason (which I don’t think he will) we get a full month of ESPN not being able to say his name without calling him out for the steroids ala Manny in LA.
Posada takes fastball that splits the plate.
Strikes out on a pitch up and away.
Has Tex decided yet whether he wants to contribute this post-season or not? He’s the most expensive defensive specialist I can think.
Go YANKEES
Why isn’t Montero playing? Serious question. Does the organization really think Poseda is a better hitter? Am I missing something?
Posada
Yes actually we need a backup catcher. YOu want Posada catching if Martin goes down.
that’s not a valid reason
if a lefty started, Montero would definitely start
odds are that nothing happens to Martin, if something did, Montero could still catch, just deal with no DH
The chance of a catcher going down is less than the value we get from Montero’s bat in this game and in the future. Does everyone realize Jesus is very likely not to get an ab in this series?
Common sense doesn’t play into this Montero narrative around here.
that’s not common sense though, if he was just here to be the backup catcher, they would have taken Romine instead
Hmm I’ve seen this story already, walk him.
Freddy has been great thus far. Can’t believe how much he’s produced for the Yanks. Is he worth a 1year/2mil contract with incentives as the #5? I’d think so.
I don’t see him taking that. he’ll make like $8MM this year. He was healthy all year besides a freak cut
If AJ’s worth $16.5 million, Fredy’s worth double that, esp. since he’s the #2 starter in the postseason now.
Seriously, he’ll get a decent deal next year somewhere at around $8 million. If we don’t get Darvish or Wilson, we should try to keep him.
Frown. I ate too many sugary candies.
Part of the Yankees great handling of Jesus Montero. If Montero was DHing for more than just one month is there any doubt he’s in the lineup today over Posada? I mean Posada has to be one of the worst DH’s in MLB history.
Adam Dunn.
61 career at bats are what people want to thrust Montero into the lineup over Posada???
/perspectivefail
I think it’s more like the 387 ABs of garbage from Posada
Indeed.
.269/.348/.466 vs. RHP
far from garbage, but I’d still rather have Jesus
I love how the announcers assume that Garcia and Ordonez are BFFs because they were born in the same country.
How could Barack Obama and Rick Perry not get along? There both Americans!
To be fair, politics does tend to breed more animosity than baseball. But you’re still right, it’s pretty ignorant to assume friendship based on nationality.
Why aren’t Matsui and Ichiro good friends?
/Michael Kay’d
More importantly, they are both from Caracas, pop. 4 million.
Obv they would be BFFs. Aren’t you BFFs with everyone from your 4M person town?
Even assuming they’re friends because they’re from the same city is idiotic. Caracas is a big city.
Good job, Fredy!!! Way to end that inning in front of Cabrera.
Thank God! The thought of the Alcoholic up with two on makes me shit my pants.
Apparently the rumor that A-Rod is still alive might be true
How bad are the ads on gameday. I like looking at the box in between innings but I’m stuck watching a preview for an HBO show I’m going to watch regardless.
Always a good thing when Miggy has to lead off, though no one on base with two outs would be better. Not complaining.
I agree.
Walk him on 4 pitches way outside. Not a favorable matchup vs. Fredy.
garbage-arcia has a 6.00 era and no wins so far this offseason he sucks so much < kidding.
*postseason
I don’t think Scherzer would have made a mistake in his WIND UP with a runner on Darling
With the sliding.
Why would you slide?
Probably beats that by NOT FUCKING SLIDING!!!
Somebody has to sit his fucking ass down and show him the sports science show where they prove OVER AND OVER it’s slower to slide.
But you know that baseball non-science says you win the tie by sliding because you take away the umps ability to sound it out!
he’s said that he has actually been timed where he gets there quicker by sliding
that defies common sense, but he insists its true, fwiw
Then that’s human error in the keeping of time. It’s impossible.
But its gritty! Pedraoia does it all the time!
SLIDING INTO FIRST BASE SLOWS YOU DOWN!
I’ve never heard any announcer in baseball say that it is good to slide into first base. Why the hell do players keep doing it?
Players are dumb.
I have a feeling this is not going to be a good game.
Yep. These are not good AB’s.
Whoever wins this game has a good chance to win the series. Verlander tomorrow isn’t all that fun. But hopefully he looks bad like he did in the first inning of Game 1.
I thought that was yesterday’s game that was most important.
Tigers are getting all the breaks so far.
There haven’t been any breaks so far.
Two hard hit balls not falling in for Jeter and Swisher.
Those aren’t breaks, that’s just baseball.
Well of course they did! The wind is speeding up Scherzer’s pitches and slowing down Garcia’s because of the umpires. It’s pretty obvious.
If everybody knows sliding into 1B is a no no, why do managers allow it?
all those pitches in the first inning and now the Yanks have put him right back on track. Awesome.
Choking like last night.
That is a good come back. Completely relevant. My mistake.
I know it can’t really happen, but there should be a clause in a players contract that allows the team to terminate if a player is severely injured by sliding head-first. Maybe then this nonsense will stop.
If your gonna mention Verlander as an MVP canidate, then why not CC Sabathia.
This ump is terrible. Yanks have no chance if the ump keeps giving that outside strike.
Either stop calling that outside strike or remove the pitchFx, I can live with either.
I didn’t realize this game was over and the Yankees had already lost.
Did they seriously say Valverde was an MVP candidate?
I was wondering if I heard that right. Insanity.
They said that?
It was Smoltz, wasn’t it?
Pretty sure it was.
Why am I not surprised?
Scherzer is throwing a no-hitter.
Through 3 innings.
/context’ed
Let’s seem what happens the second time through the order first.
I’m sure you meant the third time through the order, right???
From Alden Gonzalez on Twitter: “I’ve asked Brett why he slides into 1B. He believes w/ his running style, it gets him there a split-second faster. He has tape to prove it.”
I still don’t like the injury risk, but it doesn’t surprise me that they actually based the decision on testing and facts over opinion.
I call bullshit.
The problem is that assumes he does it the exact same way as the tape every single time.
I think it’s got to be human error in the timing since it’s been proven over and over and over that’s not true. And if he really is faster sliding why doesn’t he slide every single time? I’ve seen him not slide at home plate multiple times when it’s a close play and just keep running as fast as he can through the plate.
Yeah I worry about him getting hurt. But I guess he isn’t.
I only saw that Bryan Hoch retweeted that, but Hoch left off the part about having tape to prove it. Makes more sense now.
Anyone know how far Verlander is ahead of CC in the various advanced pitching metrics that consider stadium and quality of opponent?
Actually CC is ahead of Verlander.
Interesting. Didn’t know that. I wonder why most of the “statheads” on the various sites and blogs still give the CY award edge to Verlander?
Yeah, I saw it somewhere or heard about it on the radio or whatever about a week or two ago.
Because Verlander doesn’t play for the Yankees, therefore he’s better.
Because Verlander has considerably better counting stats.
based on what stat???
Something I heard or saw a few weeks ago. When you factor in the hitters that CC and Verlander have faced, CC is the better pitcher this year.
CC has a 7.1 fWAR and Verlander has a 7.0 fWAR, so according to Fangraphs, they were equally valuable (and CC had a lower FIP and XFIP)
According to BBref, Verlander had a 8.5 bWAR and Sabathia had a 6.9 bWAR, so Verlander was more valuable according to their version of WAR.
Let’s go Freddy!
It doesn’t hurt to have the nail drilled, it feels good
I thought that Garcia couldn’t throw inside on Cabrera because he doesn’t throw hard enough?
Oh wait, he located it well and it set up his offspeed pitches.
You can’t throw the same pitch over and over and expect to get good hitters out. Good job finally making the adjustment.
I know, it was good to him *finally* make the adjustment after one at-bat.
The adjustment by MARTIN with respect to the RIGHTY HITTERS more generally trying to take that ball to the opposite field.
If you had read the previous thread on this subject, you would understand.
Yeah, he really had to make an adjustment because of all the trouble they were giving him.
No, Nova was giving up line drives all of last night to right field by RHB, and Cabrera took Garcia deep trying to do the same by leaning out over the plate. Watch the approach. They have been up there trying to shoot it the other way all series.
This strike zone sucks, but it’s been helping Garcia so far so I’m not complaining.
Garcia’s on a roll now
Home plat ump seems to have a generous outside corner.
plate
5IP, 2ER (on a cheap HR)…. pretty solid outing by Freddy so far…
If the bats can wake up they can go to the pen at pretty much any point from here on out.
I don’t care if it helps us both games have had PATHETIC zones. How are the umpires involved in the CBA? Anyone know?
They aren’t. The umps union and MLB have their own CBA.
The strikezones are what they are. No sense complaining about them unless there’s some egregious call, which there hasn’t been.
Here’s a scary thought.
If the Yankees lose today, they’re gonna have to beat Verlander in Detroit to avoid having Burnett pitch for their season.
If the Tigers lose today, they’ll have to beat Sabathia in Detroit to avoid having Porcello pitch for their season.
That makes no sense. If they lose today, every starter is pitching for their season.
Actually, they’ll have to win today to avoid needing to beat CC and winning a Porcello start for their season.
Well, maybe as they take another look at this guy they’ll figure him out.
Don’t worry, the Yankees will trade for Bruce Chen so he can pitch in that game.
/September Sawx’d
Call me crazy, but I’m not afraid of a Sabathia/Verlander matchup. In a close game, the advantage goes to the team with the better offense and bullpen–that’s us.
Or the Tiger’s have to beat CC.
/Other side of the coin’d
Nice 1-2-3 inning for Fredy. Congrats on K’ing both Cabrera and V-Mart.
Keep it up, Fredy.
Silky smooth is right.
So far the Yankees have not had a golden opportunity yet (runners in scoring position with less than two outs). That’s how I judge cltuchness.
Freddy’s doing his job. Time for Yanks to grab a few here and put the pressure on!
How many position players in MLB would you take ahead of Cano for the next 5 years (not considering their contracts)?
kemp braun and tulo
Ellsbury, Pedroia, Gonzalez, Youkilis, Ortiz, Drew, Crawford, Varitek, and Scutaro.
Peter Gammons, ESPN.
You forgot Darnell McDonald.
He also forgot Josh Reddick, Conor Jackson, Mike Aviles, JD Drew, and Jarrod Saltalamacchia. All better players going forward then Cano obviously.
Jose Iglesias, Ryan Lavarnway.
Will Middlebrooks, and Lars Anderson.
The entire Red Sox roster is better than Cano, now and going forward.
Probably Kemp, Votto, Tulo & Longoria. Probably not Granderson, Braun, Bautista, or Pujols, although I might take all those guys over Cano for 1 or 2 years. I could put Miggy on either side.
Lets get a hit Yanks!
I am proud of Freddy today
Anyone feel like Grandy is being overshadowed by Cano?
Yep.
Not really. Cano is a better hitter.
But not this year.
I’d take him over Granderson.
No offense to Granderson, but Cano is better.
I said this year Grandy was better.
I’m saying Cano was.
In what way has Cano been better this year? He’s gotten on base less, and hit for less power.
Who would you rather have up when the game is on the line?
If you say Granderson ,that would be the wrong answer.
Only if you like players that make more outs than others.
That usually happens when a guy gets 6 RBIs in a game the night before…
I feel pretty good about this.
Offense looks lost today. Scherzer ain’t any good but they’re still being no hit.
8 scoreless innings the last time we faced him?
Swung at ball 4 but that’s how robbie rolls some times
Who had 6th inning before the first hit? Anyone?
Announcing crews really need at least one hitter and one pitcher. I know TBS is always going to suck but at least let’s have the perspective of someone that isn’t going to constantly talk about pitching no matter what.
damm cano, great at bat, but thats why your not in the mvp discussion gets yourself out too much, but thats a good pitch
Alex is not right
He walked in his first at bat.
ya those pitches weren’t exactly close though. no decision pitches
Has there ever been a conversation with a manager during a game that hasn’t left EVERY single audience member frustrated?
Why?
Texeira strikeout?
Season over.
Well, second time through the order they look pretty bad.
2nd night in a row the Yankees have had a pitcher on the ropes early and let him settle in. They got to Fister last night, hope they can do the same here. Scherzer looks a little wild but that’s how he rolls. He looks really confident.
No they never had Scherzer on the ropes. 2 on 2 out does not count as being on the ropes.
Fister was because that was 2nd and 3rd nobody out.
Nitpick the wording if it makes you feel better. It was the best scoring chance they’ve had all game.
2 out scoring is very hard to do.
How are we being no hit
Tex. Always.
30 pitches in the first.
33 in the next 3.
Getting embarrassed now.
It’s only the 4th inning. If Freddy can keep doing his thing, we can win this one.
tex cant hit changeups
This is just an embarrassment. You look at what happens if we lose this ballgame- Verlander in game 3 and Burnett in game 4. Somebody’s gotta spark us if we wanna avoid a repeat of 5 years ago.
and CC in game 3 and Porcello in game 4
Porcello will pitch Game 4 for the Tigers. You really think he’s better than AJ?
We can certainly beat Porcello but, yes, he’s better than AJ.
So basically we need to sweep to win the series?
The best team in the AL is trailing game 2 by 2 runs in the 5th?
PANIC TIME
Now that was an ominously bad set of at-bat’s. For the first time, I’m getting worried about this series.
Mike,
Technically, its not a must win, but if we lose today, in terms of the matchups, is it a must win?
Nope, not a must win until they can be eliminated. Verlander’s not unbeatable.
Yanks have 2 players hitting over .200.
Explains 0-1 RISP.
In 2 games.
You’re citing batting average through 14 innings of the series?
You expect perspective?
scherzer is bend dont break right now; gotta just hope garcia and co. keep it close enough.
scherzer isnt relle bend not break right now the yankees havent had a hit yet or a risp since the first inning
he has had a bunch of deep counts, a couple of line drive outs, and a couple of walks; I wouldn’t call him lights out right now.
Seriously?! 4 innings… 4!(!!!). It’s baseball… good hitters swing at bad pitches. Mediocre pitchers throw 4 innings of no-hit ball. Lets wait before we assume the Yanks are all washed up and can’t hit a baseball.
Yup.
People were calling the Yankees chokers yesterday before they scored 9 runs, so I just come to expect it from the people that post here.
In the 6th inning, Scherzer is going to implode. 5-2 Yankees win.
Tex has 3 RBIs in the last two ALDS combined.
Because RBI tell the quality of a hitter.
Be my guest, sample any data you’d like on his post-season hitting. I’d love to see the silver-lining.
so 3 RBI in 4.5 games
that’s about a 108 RBI/ 162 game pace
so you meant that as a compliment, right???
Anything less than 162 RBI/162 game pace is unacceptable!!!
ICWUDT
4.5 games? Are you drunk?
you said 3 RBI in last 2 ALDS combined
1.5 games so far this year, 3 games last ALDS
1.5 + 3 = 4.5
2009 doesn’t count?
you said 2, I was using most recent. If you prefer using the last 2 full ALDS(2009 & 2010), it was 4 RBI in 6 games, so still 108 RBI/ 162 games
Are you people always this pessimistic or do these forums breed a certain collective negativity?
Yes.
Great, I love it. Let me jump right in and say How Dare You Freddy Garcia? Two Runs in Five Innings Against a Good Offense? You’re terrible!
How dare he give up a cheap Yankee Stadium homer to arguably the best hitter in the world! What is wrong with this team?!?
I know, and I was expecting so much from him this season.
Pretty much.
Some people get a little crazy in the playoffs.
Two fat zeros on the board make me negative through four innings.
How Yankees fans are so pessimistic is beyond me. RAB (comments) used to be better
All we need now is a spark of offense
at least freddy is doing his share
Verducci: Freddy with “a bingo card of velocity.” Deep stuff, that.
garcia doing great
Let’s hope the offense can fucking score some runs. He deserves this damn win so far, especially after how he pitched during the regular season.
Freddy is having a great start. Giving up 2-run Yankee Stadium specials to arguably the best hitter in the American League is going to happen. He’s settled in since then.
Maybe they should get a hit or two this inning. It might help them score runs. Im no baseball expert, but that’s just my inclination.
John Madden-esque.
“If they don’t move the ball down the field, they’re not gonna score!”
5IP, 2ER (on a cheap HR)…. pretty solid outing by Freddy so far.
If the bats can wake up they can go to the pen at pretty much any point from here on out.
Garcia has allowed one hard hit ball today and that was Miggy’s short-porch shot. An in all honesty… that is a double with an neutral stadium. I know it is kind of lame but his veteran post-season presence helping him out here.
Nick has just been super aggressive so far..must be by design to try and take advantage of his usual passiveness.
BTW, I wonder if Tigers fans are upset with Yankees Stadium after the two homeruns the Tigers have hit so far were both Yankees Stadium specials.
I’m sure they are.
2?
Young’s.
o.k. thought he was talking about today’s game.
Of course not. Obviously the Yankees are the only team that EVER benefits from the short porch.
Ye gods, Nick.
Yeah, Swisher, that was definitely a strike.
Sheesh, usually don’t away with pitches when the catcher has to reach like that.
Hey Swish, quit bitching and just swing the fucking bat.
Quit fucking arguing. It’s the second time you’ve looked at a pitch down the middle to strike out this series.
Who at MLB can I complain to? This game isn’t satisfying my desires as a customer.
heres an automatic outt
Swisher looks like a bufoon up there. This guy isn’t any good and he’s dominating our power lineup. Running out of time.
I repeat, 8 scoreless innings the last time we faced him
In an extreme pitcher’s park.
I heard the Yankees are sending out a pretty good pitcher tomorrow too.
This is a do or die game!!!!!1!
I still have 6th inning for the first hit.
BASERUNNER!!
And it’s the teams best baserunner, Jorge Posada!
seriously wtf is up with all the empty seats????
This game wasn’t supposed to be played right now.
there were tons last night too
Fuck this strike zone man.
DP. I’m calling it.
Muscle.
Oh geez. Be okay, Russ.
This is our chance. Need you to come up big again, Gardner.
This pitcher looks like the little boys at my grandson’s hebrew school class. I think I bought some kosher for Passover cookies from him last year.
nice ralley goin here
This could be the chance
Hope Martin’s OK, but I’m also glad he’s not hitting with a man on first and one out.
Rally time.
Did that actually hit Martin? Looked (and sounded) like it caught the knob of the bat.
Oh shit. Please be OK.
Cabrera better take one in the ribs next time he’s up if they can put him on.
Yea, that’s ridiculously stupid.
That’d be pretty stupid of the Yankees, actually.
Is anyone else really bothered by the strikezone map on the TV? I feel like it is unnecessary and it also, to me, looks inaccurate with regards o some of the pitches.
I don’t like it either, it’s usually off.
I said earlier it’s terrible, mostly because you can’t even read the pitch count.
It’s terrible and doesn’t match up with pitch f/x very well (makes the outside pitches look closer and the low pitch also look closer to a strike)
Let’s go.
Phew that was GIDP city before the HBP
alright Max, you can implode any time now
My grandson keeps telling me that professional players can hit the ball. Is he just a silly little boy?
How many more handles are you going to go through this thread? Stick with one, please.
Swing the damn bat man jesus!
That’s like the 4th fastball that Scherzer’s accidentally run middle-in, but the Yankees have taken for a strike.
Hopefully someone identifies that pitch and tattoos it soon.
BABIP fucked
I don’t want to see the number for this game…
Are the hitters blind? It seems like every ball down the middle is looked at.
Fail.
C’mon Capt’n!
Hey, here’s an idea…. if we all post “C’mon [INSERT NAME]” when we think it, then this forum will be full of millions of identical and boring posts! Sounds great, right?
Cap’n Clutch.
Phil Coke warming up!
Well, damn.
BABIP is angry with us again.
Yeah 2 soft liners.
I mean damn we got robbed this inning.
Baseball gods hate us today
Sick of this shit.
Cmon!
Unreal.
RISPFail
So there it is. No hitter through 5.
First base hit will now come in the 6th, unless Scherzer is back out there then immediately after he is pulled.
Noooo hitterrrrrrr!! 13 consecutive scoreless innings! 2006!!!vomit
Getting fed up now.
Doesn’t help, of course, that I feel like that shit after carrying boxes and furniture yesterday and the Giants are playing like shit right now, too, but…
A walk and a HBP then two hard hit balls straight at infielders.
Scherzer is mowing em’ down!
The Yankees look like shit. Freddy deserves the win, but the Yankees deserve to lose this game.
Because the game is 5 innings now?
Because they are not touching Scherzer. I really want to know what game most are watching that shows an offensive output by the Yankees. Clearly there is one where they are getting hits but it is not the one showing on TBS.
I’m not saying they’re doing that, I’m wondering where he’s getting “the Yankees deserve to lose this game” when they’ve got chances left.
Starting to think we’re going to get no hit
Looks like they’re gonna have to win this one off the Detroit bullpen.
Damnit.
Gardner has some nerve barking at the umpire there. Two straight fastballs on the inner half that caught a ton of plate. Nobody to blame but YOURSELF, for being afraid to swing the bat with runners on base.
Gardner hit a hard liner to 3rd.
Unacceptable to Matt who wants him to swing at the first pitch after the pitcher walked Posada and hit Martin.
Gardner took two cookies right down the middle to put himself in the hole before he got jammed by a far better pitch. The line drive was not that hard hit. He needs to be more aggressive with runners on base, or pitchers will just throw two strikes right down the middle.
He almost always takes two pitches. But you can feel free to change that when you get hired to replace Kevin Long.
this game is bullshit
I had a bad feeling in the first inning that it would be this type of game. A BABip failing fiesta by the Yankees.
Are you serious? BABIP? They have barely hit any balls hard in this game. Even the Gardner ball was a soft line drive.
Jeter and Swisher hit it hard in the first. Varitek got that break in Fenway
2 hard hit balls?
Was I watching something else?
Remember, we’re trying to win a ring around here.
Someone tell the offense that.
“Jim Leyland would love his pitcher to get a no hitter”
Expert analysis as usual by Smoltz…
im trying to find the balance between being pissed off and being a pessimist
-_-
Bah, come on Derek.
Way to go Jeter!
That play is gona haunt us.
Yes, just like all the walks are haunting Scherzer, right?
Why is that I’m starting to think that Teix’s little sweep catch attempt is conducive to missing the ball?
Jeter rushed the throw. Jackson is not Gardy.
Yup, he had more time then he realized.
Yeah, he won’t be sliding into first base either.
Might be time to get the pen up. Don’t screw around, keep it close.
A manager who is starting AJ in Game 4 does not use his bullpen here. It’s a manager who’s either supremely confident or absolutely clueless.
Because they’re supposed to start………whom exactly in Game 4?
Andy Pettitte obv.
The corpse of Magglio Ordonez rises just to own Freddy for one more game.
o god
Fuckity fuck fuck.
That could be the ball game.
Awesome. Throwing error, single, 2 run inning coming. Awesome, fucking awesome.
Well this could be trouble…
awesome……
And you have to figure if any runs score here that’s the ballgame. We haven’t gotten a hit let alone a run. Verlander game 3, Burnett game 4. Definitely advantage Tigers due to the rain delay.
That Jeter error could have cost the Yankees this game.
Holy smokes. Nice stop Russ.
thank god Logan is warming up
Freddy needs a pop up and a DP here.
Four fingers, please.
cmon fat boy, time to GIDP
can you really leave Garcia in here to face Miggy?
Can I get a ibb?
D-Rob?
WALK CABRERA!!
Huge pitch.
OMG Walk him.
Daddy wants a double play and a momentum swing.
Fucking stupid.
god dammit.
that’s on you Derek
and girardi for not IBB
why would you pitch to him?
Who would have thought pitching to one of the best hitters in the world with a base open was a bad idea?
You do Mr. I hate Intentional walks.
Fun game
Where was the IBB? Sigh.
Is today the day that Valverde blows his first save?
And that’s it right there. We haven’t managed a hit all game. Why you pitch to this guy I don’t know. Cost us the ballgame, may have cost us the series. Not looking forward to Verlander and AJ in the next two ballgames.
Now the big inning is on the table.
Miggy Cabrera = good at baseball
That’s great hitting by Cabrera. that was a ball.
I have the feeling this game is over.
fuck
and that’s the game
Well, reiever now, please
Fuck the Yankees. If you throw the same pitch again and again or in the same location, it’s very easy to hit. every pitch to Cabrera is down and away. SOOOOOOO stupid, just walk him!!!
I guess there’s no reason to even have a bullpen.
game over
Cano needs to at least knock that down
Puke on mommy
troll.
I asked nicely once already.
Ballgame over.
Fucking shitty defense.
fuck game over
Actually, no, there are still 3 and a half innings left, last I checked.
Freddy left in way too long. what the fuck.
wheels officially off and started with an error.
Yep, and error on the leadoff hitter with the meat of the order comming up and no one out will do that.
This is bad.
This game is disgusting.
It is all coming down to AJ. That is unfortunate.
Is he starting tomorrow? Pick your skirt up and stop whining.
Error’s huge now.
Verlander can easily shut us down in game 3, just look what Scherzer has done. Then we’ve got AJ going in game 4. This is looking more and more like a repeat of 06.
CC can’t shut down the Tigers?
Then just stop watching if you’re so sure.
Cap’n clutch! (jeter)
I <3 errors
Does Cano know how to layout for the ball?
I mean come on.
What sucks is they haven’t even hit the ball that hard. Pretty sure the yankees have hit the ball harder than the tigers this game
Yankees have 2 hard hit balls.
Jeter and Swisher.
Miguel and Maglio hit the ball hard every time up.
Jeters was moderately hard. Swishers was routine.
That is not bad execution. That is poor pitch sequence. You cannot have these kinds of mental lapses in a postseason game.
Even with the error, they had a chance to get out of the inning if they kept their focus. Instead, they threw Cabrera an offspeed pitch over the plate, just like he’s been sitting on ALL DAY. How can anyone be surprised by the outcome when you let him hang out over the plate?
Just when they had finally made the adjustment, they go back to the same patterns when runners are on base. I guarantee you it is in the scouting report that Garcia almost never goes to the fastball with runners on base. Maybe they should be reading scouting reports on their OWN players instead of just the opposing team.
Hey, Matt.
Wow, Yankees losing, and Matt appears. It’s like magic.
Fallacy of predetermined and all that, but V-Mart is a pretty good hitter.
(Which is a reason why you might not walk Miggy).
*Ducks*
I really hope Greinke dominates so Cash gets over it and thinks he can win in NY
It’s like all the people saying “game over” didn’t see the Yankees put up 8 runs after the 5th inning yesterday.
yea, and the yankees weren’t down 4-0 and being no hit.
Details. You’re ruining the narrative.
Were they getting no-hit yesterday or down four runs at the time?
Can someone to explain to me why Brett Gardner didn’t even try to throw Jackson out at 3rd? It looked like he had a shot and Ordonez wouldn’t have gone to second on the throw.
The Yankees are winning this series.
Jeter’s all over it today
Jeter, you dumbass.
If you ask me objectively who is going to win the series now I have to go with the Tigers. I just don’t see the consistency in our offense. 8 runs one game, no hit the next. That won’t cut it in a 5 game series. Verlander shuts us down, AJ blows game 4. That’s Detroit’s formula for winning the series.
CC shuts the Tigers down, Porcello blows game 4. Chew on that.
Yes, that scenario is a possibility. Now stop whining you’re annoying.
We’ve STILL outscored them this series… CC shuts them down and Porcello blows its. it goes both ways.
If we wanted your opinion, we would ask for it.
The Yankees are a much weaker offensive club on the road than they are at home. If they lose this game, CC is going to have to be outstanding tomorrow or they could be in big trouble.
Verlander is going to have to be outstanding tomorrow or the Tigers could be in big trouble.
And Verlander has two no decisions against the Yankees this year.
He’s not unbeatable. The Os got to him on his last start.
Not really. The Yankees have a wRC+ of 102 on the road, barely above league average. CC has to be a lot better to beat Verlander in Detroit than he does at Yankee Stadium.
Detroit would be thanking its lucky stars to split at Yankee Stadium. The Yankees would lose their home field advantage and have to face Verlander in a pitcher’s park with their general lack of road hitting.
If you ask me objectively who is the most defeatist man in history, I have to go with Philippe Petain.
You finish a close second.
Jeter yelling at Logan.
I mean Jeter it’s fucking Cabrera…he isn’t going anywhere.
Loone Bogan could fuck up a cup of coffee.
And the ugly Yankees have shown up for Game 2. Well timed boys, well timed.
What kind of a fucking idiot is Logan to stop his delivery like that?
at least the home plate ump gets to call his 4th career no hitter. He’s like Jason Varitek out there.
You think the zone is wide now… if the no hitter goes deeper he’ll be calling strikes that the catcher can’t even reach.
The strikezone has altered the game as lefty hitters are so conscious of that strike 6-8″ off the plate they are taking stuff down the middle thinking it’s inside
Bold Prediction: The Yankees break up the no-no next inning and tie the game.
Yay Boone!
Booooooooooone.
Hey look, Logan did a good job.
Did Boone Logan strike out two in a row? What is this alternate reality? Our luck must be turning.
Good job Boone.
That only means Boone will pitch in an even more important situation later in the series. Sigh.
Come on now. You’re one of the voices of reasons around here. Stay posi.
I’m just glad he gave up no runs.
See now, I think it’s comments like this from you that encourage those who are constantly negative.
Mike saves his negative comments for twitter.
Question: could Pettitte have just joined the Yankees for September and for the playoffs? They should have done that. is that even a good idea?
wouldn’t have been eligible
2009 Yankees come back from this.
Stop with this fucking bullshit or I’ll ban you. This is worse than the “if George was still alive” meme.
It’s way overdue.
1927 Yankees come back from this.
The 2011 Red Sox can comeback from this!
Oh wait…
Axisa means business!
Calm down. Banning him for something like that is a bit tyrranical.
I didn’t realize RAB was a democracy.
I’m just saying that banning someone for saying “the 2009 Yankees would come back” is plain stupid. It’s a harmless comment that offends nobody and isn’t rude; get over it and calm down and don’t ban someone for saying that. Really.
Oh I’m sorry for wanting my team to win the game so that I can feel good.
Especially since I am a Jets fan and we’re going to lose to the Baltimore Ravens tonight.
Which commenting guideline is he breaking?
Well, I’m agnostic on how this series is going to turn out. But it’s less and less likely that a staff with only 2 reliable pitchers can go very far once a series becomes a 7-game proposition. Job 1 for Cash over the winter is finding a THIRD reliable pitcher, even if it means giving up some valuable prospect(s).
As I recall, that was Cash’s mission last winter. Oh well, that ended up nicely.
Freddy’s not the problem. Their general suckiness in RISP situations has been the issue.
They haven’t had RISP situations this game.
It all starts with a hit. One hit.
Good work by Logan.
Granderson seems to have cooled down considerably when it comes to HR’s.
well ya..he wasn’t going to stay on an 85 HR pace all season
SCHERZER IS GOING TO THROW A NO-HITTER!!!!
There, I jinxed it. You’re welcome.
Boom. Cano gets a single.
Thankyou.
+1
No hitter, no hitter, no hitter. There.
a hit!
Woo fucking hoo!!
Yay a hit!
Yay, we win!!! Wait, what?
Yay, no hitter over. You can always count on Cano.
ARod go boom?
ARod with 6-4-3 DP coming
I’m struggling to determine if you’re a Yankees fan.
haha. i’ve been wondering for quite some time.
He’s one of those “Go Tigers” folks from OTM.
I am a Yankee fan. Just see this team for what it is and today is the struggling May Yankees that can’t do anything.
Their AB’s are becoming predictable in the sense of not doing anything other than striking out, hitting lazy fly balls, weak grounders, again the May Yankees.
So you expect failure? Then just stop watching.
F#ck your no hitter
Do something ARod.
Try again: Tex go boom?
And now Tex. Well let’s look to the 7th.
Who is more of an easy out for opposing pitchers?? Tex or A-Rod.
when was the last time A-Rod hit a ball really well? Even his homerun a few weeks ago after coming back wasn’t hit too well and he was surprised when it went out (in right field).
SCHERZER IS GOING TO THROW A SHUTOUT!!!!
There, I jinxed it. You’re welcome.
seeing if it works…
Not yet.
Granderson and Tex are easy to pitch to, especially when the pitcher is getting the outside pitches called. They make no adjustments and are too pull happy. Just let them hit fly balls to medium left field.
Do SOMETHING Teix…
I’ve just got a good feeling about Tex. Scherzer’s run a few cement mixer pitches middle in today, that’s the kind of pitch that Tex usually hammers.
I wanted to share your optimism.
Please don’t use phrases that John Smoltz says.
hard to believe the hardest hit ball was the first
They ought to change their strikeout box to correspond to this ump’s weird zone.
Ok, now this is a little annoying. It’s max scherzer.
Eric Cooper is trying to channel Eric Gregg here.
A-Rod is starting to hear boo’s.
Yep, right now queue. Can’t wait to hear all the “Tip your cap to Scherzer” bullshit after the game.
Seriously, Max Scherzer. Unbelievable.
PANIC TIME!!!!!
Mock as you must. Verlander will pitch better tomorrow. Yanks can’t handle Porcello for win in game 4 with AJ on the mound.
So, mock away.
If you’re so sure of that, why even watch?
I like to torture myself. Really that is your comeback – why even watch? Glad that was thought out. I expected more after your initial pithy mocking.
I like to torture myself.
That’s a “you” problem, if you’re even being serious.
“That’s a ‘you’ problem”.
/ColinCowherd’d
Sorry, had to.
Yanks can’t handle Porcello for win in game 4 with AJ on the mound.
What are you basing this on, other than your imagination?
What are tomorrow’s lotto numbers?
I did not know you had this gift of seeing into the future. Have you found a way to earn a living from it? Do you have an agent and a TLC show?
I still think they’ll lose the series, but I think aj will be ok in game 4. The offense is just continuing their mostly invisible act from September. And one of the only guys who was actually hitting is glued to the bench because there’s an old guy they can’t insult in front of him.
Offense continues to have issues.
A day after they scored 9 runs.
I meant today and only today.
A couple of horrible ABs there by Arod and Teix. I think I’d PH Chavez for Posada and Montero or Jones for Gardner to try to get a spark.
*Yankees game goes to commercial*
*Turns on Giants game*
*Giants game goes to commercial*
*Rages*
It’s a conspiracy.
It is impossible to hit with an umpire like Eric Cooper behind home plate.
Nearly every at bat has been set up by missed calls that put the hitters in counts like 1-2 instead of 2-1. It changes the entire pitch sequence, and puts the hitters on the defensive without a chance to hit.
When a pitcher throwing as hard as Scherzer gets pitches like Cooper is giving him today, it’s no shock to see him throwing a no hitter into the 6th inning. Just disgraceful.
I hate to agree… but I agree.
It is impossible to hit with an umpire like Eric Cooper behind home plate.
The Tigers have done a pretty good job hitting. Stop blaming the umpire.
“When a pitcher throwing as hard as Scherzer gets pitches like Cooper is giving him today…”
Please try READING the post next time. The Tigers are facing a pitcher throwing soft stuff up there, so of course it’s easier to reach out and bloop some of the pitches off the plate that he is calling.
When a guy is throwing 95+ 3-4 inches outside and is getting those pitches, and he isn’t some AAA pitcher who has nothing else to go to, it’s REALLY difficult to hit.
Can’t blame the ump for Teixeira clearly swinging at ball 4 in the first inning.
The previous pitch was 4 inches outside and called a strike. Also, the pitch that he swung at was right down the middle.
Hmmm. Must only affect the Yankees. Detroit is up 4-0 with 7 hits and did not wait until a lazy bloop in the 6th.
Yeah, it’s not like the Yankees keep taking pitches down the middle or a tough on the inner part and then swign at pitches out of the zone or bitch when a clear strike is called strike 3 against them…
The umpire is calling 95+ mph fastballs 4 inches off the plate strikes. What do you expect them to do? They have no clue where the zone is, and are behind in every count because those kinds of unhittable pitches are being called.
They’re taking fastballs and changes right down the middle in any count. Thats why they’re sucking. It’s not the umpire.
Well, That and their complete inability to hit any semblance of consistency for over a month now.
Calm down everyone! It’s only the 7th inning! Stop being so negative.
Only? Their starter is pitching a gem, and they have one of the better 8th and 9th inning combo in the game.
I agree in the 8th, but we did get to them yesterday. And Valverde is overrated, the epitome of the pampered closer.
They need to score a run so Valverde can come in and blow a save. The narrative must be fulfilled!
The negative comments started in 1st inning.
The Yankees may need someone else to hit in this series besides Cano. Just saying.
We need a spark, anything to gain momentum. I mean god damn someone atleast square one up.
Mike Francesa likes Brandon Inge. He likes him a lot. He would be interested in Inge.
I laughed really hard.
When’s that from again?
2008
Thanks for the out.
Thanks for the out.
Austin Jackson strikes out. Shocking.
I wish Jesus would pinch hit for Jorge.
I think we all wish for that.
I know, I had nothing else better to say.
But hey, at least Jorge got a hit.
C’mon Corey, you know who’s on deck and in the hole.
You’ve gotta go after Kelly here.
Let’s remember guys. Scherzer is gonna come out, we got to Al yesterday and Valverde is the most overrated closer in baseball. Just got to get it close.
If Jesus doesnt pinch hit in this game for Jorge then Girardi WANTS to lose!
If Girardi though Jesus was better against RHP than Jorge, Jesus would be starting
Yankees need to score this inning.
Thank you, Cory.
I miss that anti-Semetic Irishman.
I want to make a joke here, but I’ll restrain myself.
Which one, there’s so many?
Slow G-d bless america…
Yankee comeback…you heard it here.
A bloop, another bloop, and a blast please.
Add a walk in there and we’re tied
So if the Yankees make a comeback and win does all this pessimism turn to optimism or would a 2-0 series lead still be cause for concern?
So we got the “Good” Max Scherzer…maybe its an omen to us in Game 4 and we can get the “Good” AJ
If there is a game 4…
I like the way you think.
Let’s go Swish. Work the count, help get Scherzer out of the game before this inning’s over.
Step 1, check.
Step 2, check.
Now let’s go get a goddamn snack. I mean, runs.
Not gonna lie, I’m shocked that Cooper didn’t punch Swish out on that outside fastball.
Ditto.
Stupid Swisher, only getting on base when it doesn’t count.
2 on no out. let’s go.
You have to get at least 2 here. Have to start chipping away.
Oh look Posada got a hit
Seventh inning rally time!!!
MOMENTUM!!!!!!!
/bringing back the meme
Cricket swing by Posada.
Comeback plz.
Hip Hip!!!! The good news is we’re probably down enough the Girardi won’t bunt Martin
Here we go!
P.S., if Martin bunts I’ll drive up to the Bronx and kill Girardi myself.
Is Nunie out to PR for Posada?
Eh, he’s not the tying run.
I thought I saw him out there, so that’s why I was asking. But you’re right, it’s not a huge deal.
At this point I don’t care about defense. Jesus should come in for Martin.
We can’t pinch hit Jesus for Martin, right?
No because we have no backup catcher.
Montero is the backup catcher.
Heh.
Nope, because if you pull your catcher you won’t have another one on the bench if the second catcher (Montero) gets injured.
/Kay’d
Do. They. Have. A. Rally. In. Their. BONES!!!
It’s not the 9th inning.
wide strike zone all day, got be swinging.
Benoit Balls
Get your Rally gaps on Folks!
That comment was for our porn sister site, I assume. River Ave. Hookers.
Lmao
Baby steps… at least advance the runners Martin.
Even though Ron Darling works for SNY, he is a tremendous announcer. I wish he was on YES or on the radio.
You’re kidding.
Agreed.
I, personally, don’t like him. However, let me just say that it feels like YES had Flaherty commentate too many games. Not enought Leiter or O’Neill or Cone.
Speaking of Cone, wasn’t there a commenter here who woud only show up just to say that Cone looks like Buster Keaton? Or did I dream that?
I don’t like Leiter because he talks too damn fast. He has good insight but its like he gets paid by the word. O’Neill always compares this team to the championship team of the 90s. Cone is great, he is as close to being objective as they have. I would like to see less of “Flash” and more of Singleton. Singleton to me is more of a fan but he gives credit to the opposition. Kay is awful, this TNT play by play guy is better.
As for Darling, you would never know he works for the Mets through his broadcast.
Joaquin Benoit is a living, breathing example of why I support the Yankees’ facial hair policy.
Joakim Benoit gets batters out on the ugliness of his beard alone.
What?????????? Not Montero or Jones? Really?
Really, pinch hitting for Gardner?
That’s downright shocking.
Also with Chavy? Really glad he did that.
Chavez!?
Why not just pinch hit Jones?
Clearly someone stole Joe’s binder and replaced it with a LOLbinder.
Jones hasn’t hit righties all that well, but then again, neither has Chavez
That was a good PH call….
Nice AB by Chavez.
Choke job inning
Yeah, not Girardi’s best move.
Why?
Chavez is a lefty. Montero and Jones are righties.
Lefties are 2-40 against Benoit.
And Chavez is a weaker hitter than Gardner anyways
Don’t tell Joe that. The Chavez of yesteryear is written in Joe’s memory.
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And he comes the rain and a SO
here*
Hideous at-bat by Chavez.
I live 6 miles from the ballpark, and the sun is shining.
What a dumbass move by Girardi. Weaken your offense and defense at the same time. And Chavez has been terrible anyway.
First and second, no one out, 1…2…3.
You couldn’t even make this up.
Lefties are 2 for their last 40 against Benoit because of his changeup. Even the broadcast knows this.
Yet Girardi uses the worst PH on his bench not named Dickerson, in the biggest moment of the game, solely because he bats from the left side and the pitcher is right handed.
Unbelievable.
Girardi’s gotta have those lefty-righty match ups!
That’s our manager. Been that way since day one.
but how does he explain pinch-hitting for a lefty with a weaker hitting lefty?
Cmon Jete…makeup for the error…big knock buddy
Martin and Chavez with back to back grteat AB’s
Keep watching Derek, maybe it’ll hit itself next time.
It’s not exactly easy to turn on a comeback fastball that hits the corner in the pouring rain.
Turn on it? You slap it the other way like he’s done for 15 years.
You guys know that it was a change up right?
this team is just pathetic today.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
So THAT’S why Girardi won’t let him play!?!? That mischievious Montero….
and thats the ballgame
Wow it’s just been one of those games.
Can’t be confident in this team.
1 good hitter.
Just stop.
Well, hello, I’ve finally met one of the people who pick “1″ on the confidence poll on Monday.
I think he’s not the only one in this thread…
WOWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!1!!
Guess the Ump was sick of getting wet!
Perfect pitch by Benoit.
If the Yankees lose this game, you can’t say they didn’t have their chances.
that pitch looked at least 8 inches off the plate. these fucking umps are brutal. I thought they got them in line when they had that strike…it looks like the umps have taken back control and doing what ever the hell they want.
That pitch was a strike
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=3.gif
That inning tells you all you need to know.
It’s the new Yankee mantra. Take an obvious strike then bitch to the umpire about it like it’s his fault.
Phenominal AB Jeter
Is Chavez a better hitter than Gardner? Someone please explain that decision to me. Thanks.
No one can explain it because it makes no sense.
he’s been better with RISP, try as I might, I can’t figure out any other possible logic to that move
I would just like to make a statement: it has rained at some point during every homestand this year. It feels like whenever the Yankees are away, it’s nice out (in NY)and when they’re home the weather is kinda crappy. This could just be confirmation bias, but I remember saying that multiple times throughout the season. Maybe I’m alone on this one, though.
This is a stupid, stupid, stupid game. And I’m not saying that just because it’s a playoff game.
Raise your hand if you’re sick of that song that TBS plays going into and coming out of every commercial break.
*raises hand*
Losing this game gave Detroit the series. Verlander tomorrow doesn’t look good for us, then we have to pitch Burnett. See ya next October, Wankees.
You’re being sarcastic, right?
Tell me you’re being sarcastic…
Stop being so pessimistic. CC tomorrow doesn’t look good for them, and then they have to pitch Porcello.
Wankees?
I think you’re on the wrong blog, this blog is perfect for you: http://www.overthemonster.com/
And if CC can’t get the job done tomorrow we’ll be looking at our season in the hands of AJ Burnett. Scary thought. CC needs to win game 3 or we’re done.
And if Verlander can’t get the job done tomorrow the Tigers’ll be looking at their season in the hands of Rick Porcello. Verlander needs to win game 3 or they’re done.
Stop with this nonsense.
Detroit is a great hitting team at home, and the Yankees are far weaker on the road.
You’d be deluding yourself if you think that the Yankees would be in an equally bad position if they are down 2-1 going into Game 4 as Detroit. If they lose with CC on the mound, they are in big time trouble.
If they lose today and they lose tomorrow then yeah, they’re in trouble.
But today’s game isn’t over, and assuming that they’ll lose tomorrow is just stupid.
When did I assume that they would lose tomorrow?
However, it’s going to be a lot tougher to win that matchup in Detroit than it would be in NY. The Yankees and Tigers have very similar home/road splits in terms of offense. CC is going to have to outstanding for them to win that game, and not make his usual 1 or 2 mistakes.
The Yankees are a better hitting team on the road that Detroit is. You seem to have no concept of:
1. You can do everything right in baseball and still not succeed.
2. Just because it happened in the past does not mean it will happen again. Lefties being 2-for-40 off Benoit or whatever it is has no bearing, absolutely zero, on whether or not Chavez gets a hit in that one at-bat.
Now respond with your typical holier than though bullshit which I won’t read because you’re insufferable.
“Anything could happen” is not the same as “nothing matters because I could say the opposite and be just as right,” which is what was said in this thread.
Losing a winnable game at home that ties the series up and costs you homefield advantage makes it a lot tougher series for the Yankees to win. If you can’t acknowledge that, then I don’t know what to say.
isn’t every game winnable??
You know exactly what I meant. Why are you posting this?
just didn’t understand the “winnable” qualifier
This game is no more or less winnable than any other game this series
Also, there is not as much a difference as you think.
wRC+ on the road:
Detroit- 99
Yankees- 102
The main difference is that the Yankees hit for significantly more power, but they are going to be playing in a park in which it is notoriously difficult to hit home runs.
Great insight.
You’re right….Why even fly to Detroit? Game 2 is now the elimination game in a best of 5 series for the team UP 1-0.
The Yanks could win or lose the series, but jeez, a miniscule part of me enjoys Yankee losses. It gives me a window into the mind of the irrational Yankee fan. One game doesn’t end the series guys.
While that was a strike, that’s been called a ball most of the game as Cooper’s homeplate apparently has shifted 6″ toward the right handed batter’s box.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=7.gif
That called 3rd strike was the first pitch he called in that location.
if you shift that black box to the left 1.5 inches, it would be a good strikezone. However, since its not moved there, its terrible.
By the time we get to a situation where we need DRob, he won’t have pitched in 6 days.
He could use himself a knock? Is Darling suddenly speaking Yiddish?
Miguel Cabrera just stole a base. Fantastic.
This game could not get any uglier.
C’mon Corey, we need to hold this at 4.
This game is officially an embarrassment.
Oh sure, let him steal a base hes done everything else already.
This game is so…
Cabrera stole a base? Jeter made an error? Girardi PH Chavez for Gardner?
This must be a bad dream.
Nope. Yankee baseball 2011.
It’s almost like this team hasn’t won 98 games this year.
Because 98 wins means so much in the post season. I forgot they count as 1/10 of 1 win towards a full win in the post season, thus giving the Yankees 2nd place because Philly won more games.
2009 Yankees wouldn’t have done that, and if George was alive, those moves wouldn’t have been made.
/Greg’d
This seems like it would be a good time for Robertson, no?
My God, with all this negativity I wonder what it would have been like after ’04 if this blog existed.
Yankees would have won.
I recognize that as just another anonymous internet poster my own opinion counts for very little. But if the Yankees’ own opinion of Gardner is that he has to be pinch hit for in that situation, how can they plan to give him millions in arbitration? And how can Cashman publicly congratulate himself by saying “outfield was not a position of need?”
Does not compute.
ITA.
I would understand if there was a lefty on the mound and Girardi had gone to Jones or Montero…but I don’t understand taking the bat out of Gardner’s hands against a righty at all.
Yeah. Makes no sense. Especially since last night Gardner was up with 2 outs and 2 on and came through. Of course, they had a small lead then, but not exactly a huge one.
Sometimes Joe’s binder does not help him.
Nice job, Wade.
Grandy, Cano, A-Rod, Tex, Swisher….We couldn’t ask for a better situation. Let’s go, guys!!!
back to back to back to back to back HRs to take the lead. Mo for the 9th. Game over.
I could ask for a better situation. I could ask for some hitters (except for Cano) who have done something in the last month.
Who are your 5 ideal hitters on the Yankees?
A couple of them are in there, but that doesn’t mean they’ve been hitting for the last month.
lol granderson got figured out
Well you should probably just shut up, huh?
Does it make me a bad Yankee fan if I flipped the channel to FX to watch The Taking of Pelham 123?
Nope.
Yes
Andruw Jones better hit the game winning HR to make this better.
Ah, fuck it.
At least “Breaking Bad” is on, tonite.
It was only a matter of time!
THE GRANDYMAN CAN!
Grandyman!!!!
rally time.
GRANDYMAN!
Grandyman
1 down, 4 to go.
*3 to go.
Comeback time!!!!
Grandyman!!! WOOOOHOOO
that was a fucking ROCKET
one down, three to go. Guess LH are now 3-41 against Benoit
That’s a start.
Here we come!!! Grandy goes deep!!!
A pulse appears
On the plus side, Benoit’s going to have to work a bunch and Valverde will likely be in.
I really fucking hope so. I want the Yankees to crush that geriatric jackass.
Grandy just killed the rally before it began.
I can’t think of a more satisfying way to win than to beat Valverde in the 9th
Would be nice, won’t happen today, not with the way this team is swinging the bat. Look away so you don’t have to endure the spaz dances.
look at the bottom + loser at top of the lineup… theyr not coming b ack
The boos are getting louder.
Booing A-Rod? What is this 2006?
So ARod can’t just take those inside pitches?
It’s tough to lay off when the pitch starts down the middle then runs inside.
Seriously, people a booing A-Rod?
Some fans really need to get their heads out of their asses.
Why not he has sucked for a month.
He’s my favorite player, but truthfully he’s sucked and been invisible for 3 months, not one.
I was trying to be generous.
He’s had a ton of at bats to get it going since his thumb injury. They are pitching him the same way every single at bat, and he simply is not adjusting. He deserves them right now.
Everyone remember last year when Alex started opening up early with his hips and turning his front heel and started hitting a bunch of jacks? I dunno if his injuries won’t let him but that seems like a good idea.
1 run, no outs and promptly the Yankees get two outs. Only makes the Valverde spaz out that is coming with three straight strike outs all the more painful.
Arod really blows!!!
argh Cano and A-Rod both swinging at crap out of the strikezone.
Wow A-Rod.
Swinging at the pitch every time.
Let’s boo A-Rod in the eighth and ignore the two rallies Jeter ended without hitting the ball out of the infield.
But, but, Jeter is a True Yankee™!
Exactly! Get the memo, Mike!
True Yankees are immune to booing and criticism by the media.
Plus the error and the balk
Jeter hit the ball hard in the first one, and his second at bat was in pouring rain. Not even close to the weak at bats that A-Rod has put up there thus far.
Well said.
Fans booed him bc he go 0-8 WITHOUT a hit, N-O-T bc Jeter.
idi?t.
And, how did those ‘hard’ grounders yesterday help A-Rod? I still put this all on him and the team saying he doesn’t need rehab batting time or anything like that after his injuries saying his timing is no problem, he just needs conditioning. You don’t need much conditioning to jog to first after a thousand groundballs and pop-outs.
Drop everyone besides Cano and Grandy to 8th.
And put Montero at 3rd.
Montero won’t help at the 3 spot.
2-0 popup…. way to take a strike and get on base…
This is embarrassing. 2-0 fastball down the middle, with a 3 run deficit, what do you think he’s going to throw you?
Popping that up the other way? That’s pitiful.
Jesus will hit a walkoff grand slam off Valverde.
Would be amazing. But you know since Jesus does not bat LH, no way Joe PH him for Jorge.
lets bring back those arod nicknames “purple lips” , “choke-rod” , “afraud”
Don’t forget my personal favorite: A-Choke
Better yet, let’s just make a Madonna joke.
teix can’t hit a fastball down the pipe
I’m hoping DRob pitches the 9th.
Good job Girardi. At least Robertson and Soriano will be well rested in April…
Joe GirardI: “I have no interest in keeping this game close”
Ayala??? Really Joe???? White flag down 3????
Ayala?? DRob needs some work.
Really, Ayala again?
The guy sucks. He’s awful. And Robertson hasn’t pitched in what, 5 days?
Come on Joe, we can get 3 runs off Valverde. We probably can’t get 4.
They can’t get 3 runs off Valverde anyway. The bottom of the order is up too.
But, there’s no excuse for pitching Ayala again here.
Luis Ayala again?
this is a 3 run game and Girardi’s treating it like garbage time… why not Hughes (if not Ro or So)
Noesi should have been on the playoff roster, not Ayala. Just saying..
does girardi have early dementia? why is ayala pitching ?????
Luis Ayala is an absolute disaster. Someone should tell the manager this game is still very much within reach and using a good pitcher might actually help the cause.
I just wish I had confidence in this lineup but only one man is hitting. You’ve seen Detroit more careful with Cano today. Unfortunately, we don’t have the same coaching to tell our pitchers not to throw to Miguel Cabrera. It really cost us today. Pitch around him.
Couldn’t agree more. If Victor Martinez or whoever else beats us, then fine. But pitching to their best hitter in any spot with runners on base is just dumb. The guy is going to be the MVP for Christ’s sake!!!
Isn’t putting Ayala in the equivilant of waving the white flag?
Easy, it is a long flight to Detroit. They need to make sure they get their rest for Verlander.
With Ayala having such nice superficial stats you think he is worth much in a trade?
Maybe for a bag of baseballs?
Jackson looks nothing at all like Mike Cameron.
I really don’t get this Ayala shit.
Luis Ayala: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0xWwA8RECc
Did you know that the Tigers won in 2006? I didn’t. they have not mentioned it at all today.
It’s five years ago, but it’s not like this isn’t following along the same as that one. Win game 1 behind one big offensive inning and a good performance from a young pitcher against a soft thrower. Lose game 2 behind a somewhat aging softer throwing pitcher against a young hard thrower at home with the offense starting to disappear. Now they go to Comerica where the offense constantly struggles trying to battle back. Except, this time they have to do it against their best pitcher.
If A-Rod isn’t healthy he shouldn’t be in the lineup. Looks awful at the plate. Agree or disagree?
The only way the Yankees are a better team for sitting A-Rod is if they put Martin at third and Montero behind the plate. Otherwise, Chavez is not much better at the plate and A-Rod looks ok defensively.
It is the post season.
Why Ayala?
Whats the chances we score 3 runs in the 9th now and still lose?
And there you have it. Ayala serves up another run.
Maybe Ayala is about to be DFA’d and they want him to earn his pay?
fucking Ayala doesn’t belong anywhere close to the playoffs.
Fire Girardi right now…
Cashman should just walk down to the dugout and yank him.
good one girardi
I can’t stand this bullpen management in the playoffs. Love it in the regular season, keeps everyone fresh for what I thought was a don’t hold back postseason run.
WTF Ayala.
I’m absolutely livid right now. Go to Robertson. Go to Soriano. Go to Hughes. Go to fucking Burnett. Anybody but Luis Ayala!
Why would you feel the need to use Ayala in this situation? Why???
That’ll do it today. Yanks must win tomorrow or season is over.
pretty sure it’s first to 3 not first to 2
that is funny. AJ is pitching game 4. What is your pithy response?
AJ has solid numbers against Detroit and individually against their batters. I’m more worried about the offense in that stadium than AJ.
Auto loss right?
Manager of the Year.
Fuck you Luis Ayala.
That is all.
Girardi trying his best to lose this game
is Girardi just mailing it in at this point? going back to Detroit 1 and 1 is really bad for this team, yet Girardi is managing like he thinks its no big deal. this feels very familiar….
Let’s replace Girardi with Francona.
Nice moves today Joe….WOW. You were out managed by a guy who starts 3 guys with OBPs of .317, .303, .302 at the top of his lineup. These weren’t preference or philosophy calls, they were I have no clue what the fuck I’m doing calls. Ayala and Chavez..how do you even explain that?
Maybe Leyland brings out Valverde anyways and he still blows it?
This is how I feel about Ayala pitching the 9th:
http://jetsrant.com/wp-content.....x_rage.gif
YES SWISH YES
SWISH THE DISH!
Damn, the Phils follow Roy H. with Lee–and have good guys behind them. The Yanks have CC and a promising kid.
Now Valverde can blow the save?
holy shit. gotta do that with people on base though.
Guessing we won’t see a dance after that.
2 homeruns off their big relievers….but AT yankee stadium…those arent going out in Detroit
Right field is the small part of Comerica.
Who will be the first one to say he’s just stat padding, can only hit with no pressure? Cuso?
LOL probably.
Now the Yankees just need to get one more runner on to bring the tying run to the plate…
Oh wait that’s right Ayala was brought in because the game was over…
I REALLY want to see Valverde fuck this up….There’s a start.
I have no idea, NO IDEA, how anyone can defend Joe Girardi as being a good manager anymore.
Girardi wants that Cubs job badly.
one down, three to go. Its like I wrote that before….
BTW, watching the Giants game and Moose Johnston drives me damn crazy with his hate towards the Giants.
Valverde’s blowing this.
Girardi love for ayala is going to sink us this game
JoPo Triple!!
hip hip!
Hahaha who else’s heart stopped when they saw Jorge rounding 3rd?
I yelled out “NO!” My says: calm down, he’s got it.
holy shit, Posada triple.
Jorge got a triple?
This is going to come down to Ayala’s run. Hilarious.
Posada triples?! RALLY TIME!!!
Holy shit did Jorge just triple?!?
A triple by Posada!!! WHAT!!!???
Posada can’t hit fastball!!!
PO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tripple for Posada????? If only Ayala didnt come in and give up that run we are gonna lose by
Triple for Jorgie! Good thing Girardi had no intentions of holding Detroit at 4. PH Montero.
I REALLY hate Ayala..Ugh.
girardi must be shitting his pants
Holy shit Austin Jackson has some range….scared me there
POSADA TRIPLE!! Oh man they have to destroy valverde!!!
Tying run up…
/Ayala’d
Who wanted to pinch-hit for Posada? Fess up now.
Experience over…potential every time.
Pinch runner??? Fuck Girardi is absolutely toasted! A flyball to get that runner in still matters!!
We need a bloop and a blast!
Fallacy and all, but if Ayala didn’t give up a run, the tying run is at the plate now.
Captain Obvious’d
why the fuck is he not running for Posada
no reason to, he should only go on a hit to the OF, where he would score easily
No need to (not the tying run). If the Yankees tie it up and it goes extras you don’t want to burn an extra player for nothing.
Think Joe pinch hits Dickerson for Jones????
Haha I admit that made me laugh.
Nothing would surprise me at this point.
But, but ,but PH Montero for Posada… or something.
Nice take Martin.
That was some take.
It’s sad when a pitch a foot off the plate is a risk by Martin….fucking umpires
Tying run at the plate. LET’S GO JONES
Tying run to the plate!
Fuck it, lets win it.
Andrew go boom?
Andruw*
Andruw bomb coming.
lets go Jones!
Mike Prediction was right.
Just get a hit. Any kind of hit.
Jones replaced Gardner for defense?
There aren’t enough facepalms in the world for these announcers. Whatever, it still beats FOX.
Morons. They make stuff up.
Oh, maybe walking over 4 per 9 isn’t a good thing…Martin needs to steal 2nd immediately to stay out of the DP. By the way…I dunno if anyone has said this but FUCKING AYALA
Bunt!
fuck
damn….he stroked it
Damn BABIP
damn that falling would have been incredible.
damn!
Fuck that was hit hard…..
thought that was a surefire double in the gap.
Hit it well but to no avail….at least he drove in the run from third.
Jeter is due
Fuck that was hit hard…..Think they boo if he hits into a DP?
Would you pinch hit Jesus for Jeter?
Please get on base, Jeets.
I dont like Jeter’s AB’s lately
his first AB today was good
Send Martin on the move here?
i can sense a dp coming!
Come on Jeter, time for a Yankee Stadium special.
How fitting would it be to let Granderson get a shot for the walk off?
tie would be just as awesome…
Send Martin on the move?
Please just walk Jeter. No confidence in him against RHP.
DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!
Well it was better than a DP.
Alright Grandyman. All up to you.
ahahaha CAPTAIN CLUTCH
That was really clutch Jeter…
Come on Curtis! Get it to Cano!!
I remember when it used to be good to have Jeter up in a big spot
Come on Grandy..
Please. Please.
Girardi knows he fucked this up….a base hit would now tie this game
Nice of Cooper to realize that a fastball has to be over the plate to be a strike.
Ummmmm
Wow…..
WOW
HOLY SHIT IT HAS TO BE DESTINY!
Well, they better take advantage of this now.
Wow.
lolololololololololololol
WHAT A BREAK!
omg yankee stadium ghosts oOoOoOo
OH SHIT SON!!!!!!!!
OH SHIT SON!!!!!!!!
Was that destiny or aura??
if we dont win now, then God has stopped hating the Red Sox and set his sights on the Yanks
please take advantage of that
Bullshit strike 2 call.
Questionable strike 2 call there.
not a fucking strike!!!!!!!!
This ump is awful. He called the same pitch a ball earlier in the at bat.
Wow this umpire is confuse.
lets go Cano!!!!! Walk off time
Effin rain.
If I’m Detroit I just walk him and pitch to A-fraud.
Wow. Heart-stopping.
Let’s go Robbie. Time to make a name for yourself.
I think he already has a big name.
He needs a signature postseason moment.
Wow!! Well, no one else I’d rather have up here.
We’ve got our best hitter at the plate representing the winning run. Couldn’t have asked for more down 5-1 coming into the inning.
LET’S GO ROBBIE!
Would’ve been better being down 4-1 coming into the inning…
Wait for your pitch Robbie!!!
I love the feeling of having Robbie in the 3 hole.
Justify it, Robbie!
Come on Cano.
Think they’ll IBB Cano to get to Arod?
Cmon ROBINSON
That was HIS PITCH!!
He already had three pitches to hit, didn’t do the job.
Postseason pie!?!?!
Best situation possible with Cano at the plate.
Also, no Valverde or Benoit tomorrow either.
They’ll pitch. Clearly we can get to their bullpen. Gotta get Verlander out early tomorrow and CC must pitch great as well.
He can’t see the ball off the hand. Those were two pitches right down the middle!!
FUCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKC
Stupid rain.
Fuck
CANO CHOKED!!!!!!!!!
Wow thanks mother nature for pissing on the Yankees during a Rally!
3 pitches to hit.
Well they made Valverde work.
Oh well…..runs left on the base. Ayala. Hats off to Scherzer. Kid pitched well.
Too little too late.
Well….we get em next game.
Looks like 2006 taking shape all over again.
Calm down there buddy. Unlike 2006, we have our ace in Game 3, plus we show we can get to that bullpen. It was damn tack on runs that killed us.
And unlike 2006 they have their ace in game 3 too. It’s following the same pattern as that one so far.
Please tell me what your crystal ball says next.
Says Yanks will get 4 hit by Verander while CC gives up a 2 run HR and the Yankees lose 3-1.
Then it comes down to AJ – kind of like being strapped to the table and hearing those machines start the injection.
Hoped for more but don’t see it happening. Line up is basically absent.
What are tomorrow’s lottery numbers?
don’t play the lottery, that is foolish. But picked GB and NE to cover.
Yep. Randy Johnson goes for the Yanks tomorrow. Looks like we’re fucked. Oh wait…
Fuck this rain.
This is what I mean by winnable game. Costly mistakes early in the game once again coming back to bite them late when they finally start to rally.
Every game is “winnable”
Stop responding to my posts if this is the nonsense that you are going to provide. You think that posting the opposite makes you witty and clever. In fact, it just you look clueless. “Anything can happen” doesn’t mean “nothing matters.”
How’s he being clueless if he’s right? Every game is winnable. Quit being so bitter.
Interpreting a word as literally as possible when we all know what it means does not make you sound more intelligent.
Nobody in their right mind would think that “winnable” means that “I could have won this game when the score was 0-0 in the top of the first!”
Unless you have anything legitimate to post, you should probably stop embarrassing yourself.
Every game can be won. Every game is winnable. Every. Single. One.
You know EXACTLY what I mean by the use of the word “winnable.”
Continue to harp on this. It only makes you look like you are picking a fight (which you probably are). People sure take you seriously when you go around attacking people based on personal vendettas?
Dear Lord, just do everyone a favor and take a nap or something. Watch football or have something to eat. Clearly you’re pissed over a big game and you’re clearly frustrated. Just because no one agrees with you doesn’t make them “clueless” or they’re “embarrassing themselves”.
Quite frankly I’m surprised that you haven’t blamed Russell Martin on this loss like you do with every other one it seems.
Just because you don’t like what I said, it doesn’t mean that I’m not correct.
This was a game that they had a great chance to win and let slip through the cracks. That is exactly what is meant by the use of the word “winnable.” If they lost 8-3, so be it, but they were not flat out beaten today.
This series just got a whole lot tougher as a result. I’m not saying that the Yankees can’t win it, but to act like this is meaningless and “anything can happen” makes you a fool. CC is going to have to be on his game tomorrow night or it’s going to be very tough.
Can’t win em all.
They did work Benoit and Valverde. SoRo haven’t pitched, and Mo only had 1 hitter. It may come into play tomorrow.
And no Girardi hate please.
Its getting old
They might blame him for the timing of the rain.
Maybe, but he did make a couple of curious moves today.
This from Mr. 2009? Please, the offense gets a ton of the blame, but Girardi is a close #2. Left in Garcia too long, pitched Ayala at all, stayed too long with Wade (and got lucky), PH Chavez for Gardner…
Right, because PH Chavez for Gardner in the middle of their biggest rally of the night had no bearing on this game? Or pitching Ayala in the top of the 9th when they trailed by only 3 runs?
You are truly clueless. What’s even more incredible is that you don’t realize how ridiculous you look by writing these things. For some reason, you seem to think that posting it makes it automatically true, regardless of the amount of supporting logic or evidence.
It’s a good thing you have no authority to tell anyone what to talk about.
Joe Girardi is not a good manager. Case closed. Open and shut. But people deal with it because he’s not a terrible manager and doesn’t make many egregious moves.
I mean… he just said he PH Chavez because he wanted him to “pop one.” Meanwhile, Jesus Montero has “popped” as many home runs in one game as Chavez has all season. Not to mention Andruw Jones…
He’s either stupid and doesn’t know what he’s doing or was REALLY just in favor of the lefty-righty match-up. I vote for the latter. Either way, it was a bad decision.
And Luis Ayala.
I didn’t hear Girardi’s presser, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he said something like that.
They showed a snippet of it on MLB Network. The reporter asked if Gardner was hurt and that’s why Chavez, and Girardi said “No, I was just hoping he’d pop one.”
He must have been thinking of the 2000-2005 Chavez.
Eduardo Nunez has “popped” more homers than Chavez has this year.
So what if Montero struck out huh?
What then?
What if he hit a homer? He’s more likely to do so than Chavez is. Just admit that Girardi is sometimes a major dumbfuck.
No because I have respect for him.
Unlike you guys
having respect for him doesn’t mean he can’t make stupid decisions, and criticizing a manager for making dumb decisions doesn’t necessarily mean a lack of respect
Girardi makes bad moves sometimes. No getting around that. He’s not as bad of a manager as some people here say, but he’s not a good manager either, and he makes many questionable moves over the course of a season.
the right moves don’t always work out, but that isn’t a valid excuse to make a batshit illogical move
Who cares? What kind of argument is that? The right move is the right move whether it works or not. The manager’s job is to put the team in the best position to win. If his intention was to “pop one,” then there were other and BETTER options on the bench. That’s bad managing. And it’s not even the worst move he made in the game.
Case in point… bringing in Al Albuquerque to face Cano was the right move last night. He’s a strikeout pitcher and Leyland didn’t let the platoon advantage get the best of him. He know Cano hit lefties just as well as righties so he brought in his best strikeout pitcher who hadn’t given up a home run all season. It was the right move but it didn’t work out for him.
I can’t stand to watch that right now (I’ll watch it later), but the funny part is that Gardner had more homers and a higher SLG than Chavez all year. He just aggravates me so much some times.
Jeter deserves 90% of the blame for this game. Came up 3 times in big spots. Failed in every single one without even getting the ball out of the infield.
At least they made it interesting at the end. Made this game a little less stab-worthy compared to if they just went down 1-2-3.
On the plus side:
- Valverde and Benoit threw a bunch of pitches.
- Girardi may wake the f’ up and realize a 3 run deficit is not garbage time for Ayala to eat innings in. Hughes is on the roster right? (if he doesn’t want to use his pre-programmed 7/8/9 guys)
Hughes might still be hurt.
Girardi was basically put into a crappy situation.
Another thing to consider is that with a 3 run lead, Valverde doesn’t lock it down easily due to the non save situation.
If Hughes was still hurt, he wouldn’t have pitched 2 games in Tampa.
if Hughes is hurt, he wouldn’t be on the roster
How was Girardi put into a crappy situation? He has two very good set up guys who haven’t pitched since Tuesday. It’s not like the quality relievers have been overworked.
If Hughes was hurt he wouldn’t be on the roster, Noesi or Colon would be instead.
Why is hughes on the Roster then?
What crappy situation? Losing a game??? You can’t expect to manage in the lead for the entire series. Meanwhile, Robertson and Soriano haven’t pitched since Tuesday.
And the last thing you wrote makes absolutely zero sense. I won’t even address it.
if he’s hurt get him off the roster…. if he’s hurt than Girardi is an even BIGGER idiot as with AJ having to start he should (and would be allowed to) make a roster move. He’s also got a bunch of guys who haven’t pitched since Tuesday last I checked (with his ace on the mound tomorrow)
Are you seriously suggesting Valverde isn’t trying at hard in a 4 run game as he would be in a 3 run game in the playoffs?
Girardi basically waa in a crappy siuation and made it crappier while you are just randomly speculating an injury to defend him. There is no excuse for Ayala to be pitching in the 9th inning of a 3 run game (unless there are 6 guys in the pen who aren’t available or who have pitched)
So you want to waste David Robertson in a game where you are losing? That makes alot of sense.
Why doesnt the press call him out on Ayala then? Why havent they asked him?
Why isnt Girardi fired then? Do you want Terry Francona to manage?
this is postseason, and even if DRob pitched the ninth, he would still likely be available every game the rest of the series, so you aren’t “wasting” him
It wouldn’t have to be DRob anyways, Soriano and Hughes were also much better options than Ayala
If this was a typical regular season game, you would be right
It’s the postseason though, and they need to try to make the most of any opportunity
What people are also forgetting is that there is still an off day between games 4 and 5. So if Robertson pitches 3 days in a row, he still gets a day off before Game 5, and if they win that, a day off before Game 1 of the ALCS.
No there isnt. Its 4 straight games right on through.
Nevermond what I just said.
Tip: post AFTER you have your facts straight.
He didn’t pitch yesterday, so it he pitched today, he’d pitch a maximum 4 out of 5 days, which is very doable in the playoffs.
Waste him? Is he saving him for April now?
Unless Hughes was not available, then there was no reason to bring in Ayala in that spot. If Hughes is not available, then why is he even on the roster, because he’s hurt?
You really don’t get it, do you? The press can’t call him out because they’d LOSE THEIR CREDENTIALS. Do you think the Yankees want reporters in there that try to embarrass their players and manager at press conferences?
In all seriousness, are you even much of a baseball fan? You don’t seem to know much about the game at all, but try to act like you do and get shut down time after time.
David Robertson hasn’t pitched in a while and if it’s a close game in the 9th inning of playoff game, then yeah, you fucking bring in Robertson.
This. Down by 3 in the 9th is not garbage time even in the regular season with this lineup, to say nothing of the playoffs. I can understand saving Soriano or Robertson in the regular season, but not now. You need to keep it close, and thus you need to be willing to use your best. There are enough off-days built in to keep people fresh, you’ve got a pretty deep bullpen so you don’t have to use the same guy on consecutive days (i.e. Robertson last night and Soriano today or vice versa), and you’ve got your ace going tomorrow who might just go 8 or 9 and give that bullpen even more rest. If you save them too much, you might never see the games that you’re saving them for.
“Waste”? keeping a game close is now considered wasting a pitcher? Now I understand why you defend Girardi so much; you have the same logic that having a good pitcher working in a game you aren’t currently tied or winning is considered “a waste”. This isn’t the reg season where you have to worry about 18 games in a row and distributing workload.
I would pitch: Hughes or Soriano or Robertson….the absolute worst case is one of these guys have to pitch 3 days in a row and with Sabathia going tomorrow that’s probably not a huge risk.
The press doesn’t call him out because they are idiots.
Girardi isn’t fired because results mask the process. If you win games, the assumption is the decision making process is good and contributing. It works the same thing in the other direction… lose enough games and it’s the managers fault.
Your last point is the most interesting about the discussion that you see on this blog.
If the hitter fails, then the excuse from some posters is that it is up to the hitter to get the job done. It doesn’t matter that he was placed in a difficult situation that he was not best suited for, because that’s just bad luck.
However, if the hitter succeeds, Girardi is called a genius for pushing the right buttons, even though it was the wrong decision and he got lucky.
With some posters, you can never have an argument. They reference a double standard that keeps him free from blame under every circumstance.
Why the fuck would he bring in Ayala at all? Why not just leave Wade out there? I really don’t get it.
Ayala has given up runs in at least his last 3 appearances. What the fuck Joe???
Why dont you ask him?
Maybe if Ayala doesn’t give up the run, the Yanks might go 1-2-3 in the 9th.
The fallacy of the predetermined outcome rises again.
Whoever wins game 3 wins the series. If Tigers win it they win in 4. If Yanks win it they win in 5. CC has got to come up big tomorrow and somebody has to get a clutch hit. Not just hit solo home runs down by 4 runs.
Yankees lose tomorrow, beat up on Porcello, and take game 5 behind Nova.
Or they win tomorrow and beat up on Porcello in game 4.
I want the Yankees to split the next two, and Valverde blow his first save opp in game 5 on a walkoff homer. That’d be ideal, but I certainly wouldn’t mind the Yankees winning these next two.
But I thought that “anything can happen.” By your logic, the Yankees should be equally likely to play like garbage against Porcello as they should be to beat him up.
When then are you not applying that here as well? Oh that’s right, because you only say that when you are disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing and have no argument.
I guess it also doesn’t matter for the sake of hitting home runs that Comerica Park has larger dimensions than Yankee Stadium? Nothing matters after all, because “anything can happen.” Throw probability and odds out the window, because baseball is totally chaotic!
Gawd, you’re a bitch.
I’m not optimistic about this largely struggling offense going into that big park, where they have struggled a bunch in the recent past.
Yeah, game 3 is going to be pivotal. CC needs to have a UUUUUGE game.
Man, this afternoon was like deja-vu all over again (thanks, Yogi). Anyone else feeling like its May and they’re on the verge of a big slide?
I want to be postive, but i think the yankees are done. I would have never put garcia out today, he is a fly ball pitcher and that is why he was pitching monday in DET that HR in the 2nd would have been in the field. They should have used CC on Friday/Saturday, Nova today AJ on Monday. JoeRetirdi Messed this one up big with his rest nonsense. At lest use your real bullpen today after garcia got out of the fifth. Chvez pinch hit was a big mistake. Will Tex and A-rod show up as well? Will any yankee hiters show up with runners on second base? The Yankee need a new batting coach.