Going to war with the A-Rod you have

Open Thread: ALCS Rained Out
Fan Confidence Poll: October 10th, 2011

When I walked by the newstand on Saturday morning, the cover of the Daily News caught my eye. On Friday, one day after the Yanks’ crushing loss to an inferior Tigers’ team in Game 5 of the ALDS, the esteemed paper polled its reactionary readers about the future of the Yankees. Who should stay, who should go, who should bear the weight of the world — or at least the ALDS loss — on his shoulder?

The answer, of course, was A-Rod. It always is A-Rod. It always has been, and it always will be. As of now, 69 percent of poll respondents say the Yanks should dump A-Rod. That’s actually down from upwards of 75 percent earlier this weekend. Time heals all wounds or something.

This need to lay the blame on someone for the ALDS loss is both obviously New York and entirely frustrating. The Yankees lost the ALDS due to a confluence of factors. Joe Torre in the Commissioner’s Office couldn’t read a weather forecast on Friday before Game 1, the Yanks couldn’t score off of Max Scherzer in Game 2, CC couldn’t control the strike zone during Games 3 or 5, and the team failed to get that one big hit that would have put them over the top on Thursday. Along the way, their 4, 5 and 6 hitters did absolutely nothing with the bat, and despite hot series, Robinson Cano scored no runs via anything other than his own home runs and Jorge Posada had no RBIs despite going 6 for 14.

Still, it’s A-Rod the Choker, A-Rod the guy who did this rather than the guy who blasted a Joe Nathan offering deep into the night in October 2009. It was A-Rod who went just 2 for 18, offering up a close replica of his 1 for 14 showing in 2006 against the Tigers. He struck out with the bases loaded, and he struck out to end the Yanks’ season.

By no stretch do I think A-Rod had a good ALDS. He made a few nice plays in the field but couldn’t get his groove back at the plate. For Alex, in fact, that was a theme this August and September. After starting the year at .295/.366/.485 through mid-July, A-Rod found himself on a 27-home run pace when he had to undergo knee surgery. In his first game back in late August, he jammed his thumb, and played just 19 games the rest of the way. In 84 plate appearances, he hit just .191/.345/.353 with three long balls as he battled aches and pains.

Had Joe Girardi bumped him out of the four spot during the playoffs, he would have a legitimate reason for doing so. The A-Rod the Yanks had in October wasn’t the A-Rod the Yanks had in May or June. But Girardi was far more willing to be flexible — almost too flexible — with the bullpen and not flexible enough with the lineup. Brett Gardner and his hot bat were minimized in the nine spot, Jorge Posada knocked the ball around hitting behind some cold bats and A-Rod hit fourth as though it were inscribed on stone tablets as the 11th Commandment. Thou shalt bat A-Rod fourth no matter his health.

What makes the Daily News poll somewhat less outrageous though is the hidden nugget of truth in it. The Yanks probably can’t dump A-Rod; after all he has no-trade protection in his contract. But if the Yankees had their druthers, they wouldn’t have A-Rod under contract for the next six years and owed $143 million to boot. A-Rod will be a fine third baseman for the next three years or so, but after that, things could get ugly as his decline continues. Already, New York sports media folk write about Jesus Montero and the DH as though he’s hogging A-Rod’s eventual position and will have to be traded for it. Talk about shooting off your nose to spite your face.

Basically, then, we as Yankee fans are stuck with A-Rod. He’s our problem when he struggles; he’s our superstar when he drops A-bombs into the left field bleachers. Blemishes and all though, A-Rod ain’t going anywhere before 2017, no matter how hard the Yankees try. We can learn to like it or boo him for the next half a decade. We’re going to war with the A-Rod we have and not the A-Rod we might want or wish to have at a later time. No amount of ALDS struggles or reactionary polls will change that.

Open Thread: ALCS Rained Out
Fan Confidence Poll: October 10th, 2011
  • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

    Luckily it’s not really war, just men playing a game with gloves and balls and high socks.

  • jayd808

    Cano has a beautiful swing but AROD is still the gold standard for me. Warts and all I love the guy and I’m looking forward to #800 like the way I looked forward to #3000 for the Captain.

    It’s hard to look at the post season when you know the best team is sitting out because of a couple of lame innings. Had the score been tied they would have won it in the 14th inning.

    But we’ll be back and I look forward to the off season moves. At least we won’t have to deal with the Sawks next year.

    • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso


      That might have been thinkable in 2007, not anymore though.

      He’s not even going to catch Aaron, much less Bonds.

      Unless you really think that he’s going to hit 30-35 homers at ages 39, 40, 41 & 42.

      (hint: no way)

      • CP

        He would have to average roughly 28 HR per season to reach 800, or roughly 21 to pass Bonds. Considering he hit 16 in roughly half a season this year, I don’t think it’s out of the question. Obviously it’s not a definite, but the same can be said for any historic milestone.

        • Kenny

          Maybe he can get there is he takes more steroids

          • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

            Stop it.

          • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

            Kenny, I’m going to kill you. And I’m a bastard for doing it.

            /Stan and Kyle’d

        • Ed

          The issue isn’t so much the rate he hits home runs but rather playing time.

          Will A-Rod maintain a 30 HR per 162 game pace for a while? I think that’s quite likely. But will he come close to playing in 162 games in a season? I wouldn’t bet on it. Especially not with regularity.

          • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

            Wouldn’t bet on it either (Regarding coming close to playing 162 games a season). He’s landed on the DL for a good number of games each of the last four seasons, ironically enough the first four seasons of that ridiculous 10 year contract he signed before the 2008 season.

  • Jesus Freak
  • Paul Avery

    I’d put much more blame on the supposed ace of our staff. ARod only played for what, 2 weeks before the postseason? The guy was just injured all year and didn’t have enough time to get back into the swing of things. That thumb injury really hurt his progress. CC, on the other hand, was given 4 runs vs Verlander and couldn’t hold the Tigers to less than that. He was asked to keep the deficit at 2 in game 5 and couldn’t do that. Both losses by our ace.

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      Let’s let CC go and sign Colby Lewis and make him our #1 because he outpitched CC in the 2011 playoffs.

      • Kenny

        Well, sir, what do we do when CC is diagnosed with heart disease from being 600,000 lbs and cans pitch??

        • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

          He will need to take moar steroids. MOAR STEROIDZZZ!!!!!


          • jsbrendog


  • OldYanksFan

    Regardless of the Stats, ARod is a bum.
    Why would the Yankees want him?

    20th All-Time Career OPS
    18th All-Time Career WAR
    16th All-Time Career RC
    15th All-Time Career RS
    14th All-Time Career TB
    11th All-Time Career RBI
    10th All-Time Career AB/HR
    7th All-Time Career WPA/LI
    6th All-Time Career HR
    4th All-Time Career Power/Speed

    The guy’s a bum!

    • Kenny

      One word: STEROIDS

      • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

        Please stop it, you need to learn how to flip a calendar. It’s been eight, EIGHT, years since there’s proof of him taking Steroids. Go back to OTM, or wherever the hell you came from, you troll.

        • Broll The American

          Three years ago he acknowledged a positive test from eight years ago. His durability has diminished as well as production considerably these last three years. You can’t honestly believe that over those interim five years he had voluntarily gone “cold turkey” off the stuff? He was using right up through Feb of 2009, that much is obvious.

          • Billion$Bullpen


          • CP

            None of that is obvious. To me, knowing that he tested positive and then having consequences for a positive test would be incentive to stop.

            • trueblue

              The Easter Bunny says Hi!

              • CP

                So you think that being publicly outed was enough to make him stop, but threats of suspensions if he tested positive were not?

                If he was still taking steroids in 2008, then there’s no reason for him to stop and he’d probably keep taking steroids now.

                • Broll The American

                  He was not publicly outed until 2009. The 2003 tests were supposed to be sealed and were never supposed to be made public. It was not until 2006 that MLB put into effect a policy that would allow for testing, disclosures and punishments. We’ve seen the arrogance of athletes at this level (Bonds, Clemens, Palmiero, Manny)… if you’re willing to cross that line and take the stuff, I just don’t believe a confidential, sealed, non-binding, non-actionable positive test result would have caused him to stop. I’ll believe he stopped after he was outed in 2009, or I could even possibly believe maybe after 2006, but I’d bet the ranch he was still using up through 2006.
                  And a little aside: He handled it like a punk in 2009… bringing his cousin into it and all. He knowingly cheated. His audacity to opt-out and the stupidity of the Yanks for giving him a new $300mil contract is beyond comprehension.

                  • CP

                    Suspensions for steroids started in 2005, not after 2006.

                    And a little aside: He handled it like a punk in 2009… bringing his cousin into it and all.

                    This is just a load of bullshit. He brought his cousin into it because his cousin was the mule that got the steroids. He specifically said he was responsible and his cousin just did what he was told. If he had said nothing about where he got the drugs, how would that have been better?

        • Rainbow Connection

          A-Rod did it. Don’t blame other people.

      • -Pak

        Two Words: MANNY RAMIREZ

        Except ARod is 30 times better. Go drown in your tears about the worst collapse in MLB history and spare humanity.

  • Kenny

    What happened to Arod?? Forgot to inject before the game?? I guess no more steroids means he cant with RISP anymore.

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      obvious troll is obvious…

    • Brian S.

      Perhaps David Ortiz can hook him up with some “Dominican Milkshakes”.

  • Troy V.

    i heard Cashman say something to the effect that the team won’t be much different next season…but the Yanks are definately starting to show a decline and each year it will be that much harder to win a WS…to compensate for Arod’s deminished power and Teixeira’s dropoff in average,the Yankees will need to do something…we all know how hard it is to get high end pitching…so if they decline in offense with each passing year the Yanks will be elimanated in the 1st round again or not even make the playoffs in the ensuing years…

    • Pants Lendelton

      2010 ops+ 124
      2011 ops+ 117.

      Teix’s batting avg went down while his slg% went up. Is that a sign of a player in decline?

  • Troll Killer

    Sore losers. A-Rod might be injury prone but he does not need steroids. MSM is a bunch of trolls.

  • Jonathan

    I absolutely love ARod and can’t stand the fact that he’s a scapegoat. I’m a 25 year old Yankee fan and like most Yankee fans my age all I’ve known is winning and more winning. And like probably 2/3 or more my favorite player is Derek Jeter. And all we hear is how great of a leader he is and the intangibles he possesses. But if he would just stick up for ARod..just once I think it would do wonders. And I blame Jeter for the issues the locker room had when he obviously disliked ARod. Obviously Swish/Tex/CC coming and some others going changed the locker room but Jeter finally in 2009 quit giving him the cold shoulder.

    When a guy plays through a ton of injuries and doesn’t perform it’s not his place to come out in the media and remind everyone how much he was hurt. That’s his teammates job of letting everyone know what he went through and that they respect him for constantly playing through pain. But he never gets that. Really the only long term thing that scared me with ARod was his hip, and that didn’t seem to be an issue at all to start the year which gives me hope. Meniscus tears and jamming your thumb are freak injuries. Yes he’s had a confluence of lower body injuries but the talent seems to be there when his body lets it shine through. Only the hip was a long term thing though. If you look around the league you can see that 3B is becoming a very bleak position and besides young studs like Longoria/Zimmerman (who had injury issues themselves), there aren’t too many guys I’d take ahead of him for the next few years. Youkilis is a 1B playing 3B with constant injury issues of his own, Beltre is really inconsistent and Aramis is kind of the same. Would I like to have Longoria at 3B? Would I like to pay ARod $15MM a season? Yes, but I’m glad we have him and really expect a big bounce back year in 2012.

    • I


      Pujols can’t dislike Morgan even if Morgan is his teammate,lol
      Why not just simply said “I hate everyone who doesn’t love A-rod, that’s wrong, especially if they are Yankees fan”

      It’s really sad that now A-rod look more like a grow man ,his fanboy still like a whiny baby.

      • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

        Lol, so many trolls in this thread.

        • Ricky

          When A-Rod is the main subject, there’s gonna be alot of trolls.

          • I


            Did Phillies describe Howard a scapegoat? lol

            Yep,no matter how dislikable he is, his teammate HAS to like him(if they don’t,they are jealous,bad guy)

            Next time, when you try to describe him a “victim” when he did perform poorly, plz mention this “No matter how dislikable he is, players have to take care of him like a BABY”

  • http://halfcoursemeal.blogspot.com/ The Gold Glove Ghost of Rogers Hornsby

    This was like 2006, but in reverse. He clearly wasn’t in good enough health to start, or start all the games. I don’t understand why A-Rod was allowed to play in the series. Girardi, I believe after Game 2, said that he was thinking of DH’ing Arod is one of the games to rest his thumb. He was kept in on name only when, for the good of the team, Giradi should have tried Chavez because Arod was not in good enough shape to play.

    A poignant moment was captured after game five ended- TBS cameras caught Teixeria patting Arod on the back, consoling him, and mouthing something to the effect of, “It’s not your fault.” It wasn’t. He drove in three runs, took walks, and played good defense when he was clearly hurt. Players like Teixeria and Sabathia did less without the health concerns. And so I don’t understand why Giradi could pinch-hit with Chavez (but not Montero) in Game Two but not give him one start during the series. Is he Arod? Even an injured Arod? No. But he wouldn’t have cost them defensively, the offense survived half the season without Arod, and he was skilled enough to make as much contact as the others. Contact was the one thing these guys were missing. Anything would’ve helped.

    So I’ll maintain until I die again, the game five lineup should’ve been rearranged as:

    LF Gardner
    SS Jeter
    2B Cano
    1B Teixeria
    CF Granderson
    DH Posada
    RF Swisher
    3B Chavez
    C Martin
    …it’s like a curse of the Giambino that things didn’t play out like this.

    • MannyGeee

      This, Girardi paniced and threw his big name lineup out there regardless of whether or not:

      1) They were healthy enough to contribute positively
      2) They were the right players for the situation(Jesus Montero says hi… from the bench with his dick in is hands)
      3) The situation warranted shaking up for the good of the team

      Bad call by Girardi, those who don’t study history are doomed to repeat it. Commissioner In Training Torre Abides

  • Kevin

    THe biggest thing is A-Rod has a huge contract, and is expected to perform.
    When he doesn’t, he will become a target even though Martin,CC,Swisher, Tex and Jeter(he had chances to win the game for us in Game 2 and 5) are just as much at fault as A-Rod is.
    As for the future..this is what happens when you sign long term contracts. You will be stuck with players tahat aren’t good or are declining. THink about that before we give in to the sign Prince Fielder for several years or Albert Pujols(who killed the rally for the Cardinals yesterday) crowd.

  • Monteroisdinero

    Everyone was saying after game 4 when ARod had a couple of hard singles in low pressure situations that he was getting hot at the right time yada yada. He wasn’t. He rarely drove a ball deep the last two months-had to be hurt because he couldn’t turn on inside fbs and he lost his rf power. He is either hurt or washed up.

    You can’t rest him that much because he needs abs for timing/mechanics etc. Let’s hope he can DH 30-40 games when Montero catches and that good health will get him back to 30 HR/100rbis.

    I still hate seeing him up with the game on the line.

    • LarryM.,Fl.

      As much as I believe that Montero could bring us one heck of a pitcher from a rich pitching team but weak offensive team. I want the kid to develop with the Yanks. It maybe shortsighted but I could live with the Yanks hunting and clawing for other pitchers. Hitters such as Montero do not come around to often. He’s a maybe a one or two tool player. Hitting and baseball sense being the second tool. He can’t run. He needs opportunities in low level situations when he’s not playing to play a different position such as third or first besides 30 or 40 games a year behind the plate. He may need dental work if the experiment fails but he needs to stay a Yankee. His offensive would make up for his limited time behind the plate.

      On another note maybe Arod’s skills diminish to the point that he is a non issue at DH. We give away Montero and we’re hurting in two spots of the lineup. We have chips in the minor leagues. We have FA and the chips. We can find pitchers. Fister was gotten for 4 young players. It can be done.

      • Monteroisdinero

        Agree. Montero is our right handed power hitter of the future. Nothing else out there like him.

        • http://riveraveblues.com Rich

          Just something to mull over. Don’t get me wrong–I hope Montero can develope into a superstar but just think about it. In his second year in AAA he only hit in the 280’s and only hit 18 dingers.He can’t run, is supposedly a lousy catcher and ther’s no room at first base for him. Players with a lot better minor league stats have flopped in the Bigs. If Cashman could pull off a trade for a top of the rotation pitcher still in his 20’s I wouldn’t complain. Remember we still have Romine and Sanchez who are the most likely everyday catchers after Martin leaves.

          • Monteroisdinero

            ELITE hitter. Have you ever been to Scranton? He will hit 30 next year with many into the short porch at YS. All he needs is a chance. For what we will get in 600abs, Montero is mucho dinero at 450K per year.

        • Cris Pengiucci

          And I don’t see this as “short-sighted”. It really is taking a long-term view (keeping Montero and allowing him to develop as a Yankee) as opposed to reaching for the quick rewards of a pitcher who the team may possibly over-pay for, or who may decline before Montero even reaches his potential.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    “As of now, 69 percent of poll respondents say the Yanks should dump A-Rod.”

    wow, really? I knew a lot of Americans are dumb but 69 percent? Come on, just bomb a country near you and everything is fine again :D

    • Radar O’Reilly

      Never reproduce, thank you.

      – Intellectuals everywhere

      • Bavarian Yankee

        man, that was a joke. Do I always have to make a note when I’m writing something sarcastic!? Jeeeeez.

  • LarryM.,Fl.

    I watch practically ever Yankee game with my Directv Extra Innings package except for the West coast games. So I believe with my observance of the games, I can offer an opinion on Arod and the team in general.

    I believe Arod’s contract is too long. Money to the Yankee empire is secondary consideration but length of contract is big. Arod has about 3 years of waste on his. Its well documented Arod’s work ethic is well known. When Arod is healthy then he’s a n offensive beast. He was not healthy. His offensive performance speaks for his health.

    Daily News looses credibility with reporting of this nature. Yes, the Yankees are far superior to the Tigers. There are few positions that the Tigers even match up with the Yanks in player talent. Any mention that the Yankee brass indicates that the Yanks lost to a talentladen team is a cover-up. Do the Tigers have good pitching? They do for a short series. The Yankees were a flawed team from the beginning with suspect pitching. You can win with pitching and defense but not offense alone. The Yanks need another pitcher to fill the two hole in the rotation and CC needs to be resigned preferrably for more money and one year sdded to his contract. 5 and 125 sounds good to me with a buyout option year for year six. He needs an exercise clause or weight clause in his contract when will another knee operation occur.

    Girardi, IMHO, is learning with passing of every season. He needs to be more flex with the lineup order. Its great to consider their feelings as he mentions but its about the team. Gardner needs to be lead off against righty pitchers. The middle of the order needs to change according to who is hot. Cashman needs to make all decisions with regards to the baseball personnel. I think this team is fine. We just lost to another team ewho was hota nd we were not. This is not Little League its MLB.

    • Billion$Bullpen

      “I believe Arod’s contract is too long.” Thanks Captin Obvious.

      • Monteroisdinero

        Comments like this-which I generally ignore-should not be allowed. How about it RABbis?

    • MannyGeee

      When Arod is healthy then he’s a n offensive beast. He was not healthy. His offensive performance speaks for his health.


      Exactly, but the answer lies in the question. How do you keep him healthy? An absolute MONSTER April followed by a visit from the Oblique Monster, and then the rest of the season went to shit.

  • mt

    I want to blame AROD as much as anyone and long-term AROD contract is an albatross but fact of the matter is we lost a series where we outscored the other team by 11 runs and had a higher batter average and lower ERA. Also I saw somewhere Yanks had lowest ERA of all 8 teams in playoffs in first round – admittedly a small sample but again magnifies that it was the three close games that we lost that did it.

    The basic problem was timing – 2 blowouts (our wins) and 3 close games (our losses. The fact that we played those 3 close games magnifies the little things, managerially largely,that generally are not important over a long season – the sub-optimal batting line-up (AROD has to bat fourth and Tex is fifth against righties), sticking with certain of “your guys” no matter what while other guys are still questioned (how could Swisher contiunually have one of the worst postseason records in the history of baseball with someone with that many ABs yet never even be pinch hit for but Gardner, who came through with a big hit in Game 1, is pinch hit for in Game 2 replaced by someone who has a lower SLG than him, all for some hope that Eric can “pop one”), the decision to stick with CC as starter for another inning even though the eye test was saying he was really struggling (Leyland wanted CC to stay in the game so much that he substituted lefty Don Kelley early knowing that would factor in Joe’s decision to keep him in); running game was a substantial part of what we did during season but it largely disappeared.

    In a ironic way, worse thing that happened was the six run eighth inning in game 4 – AROD hits, the Swisher hit, and Tex dribbler hit all caused a lot of – “they are breaking out”. If we had not scored as much in Game 1 and 4 but still won, maybe Joe would have felt more desperate with batting order or pinch hitting in other games.

    I know clutchness cannot be defined like a sabermetric term but there has got to be some way to numerically confirm of Tex and Swisher “inability” to hit in clutch in playoffs. Two of Swisher’s hits came when we were down 5-1 (game 2) and up at least 4-1 with Robertson and Mo waiting in bullpen. I shudder to think of Swisher’s playoff stats, especailly when leverage is factored in. And this is not just after the fact analysis – Girardi talked before series about Swisher having to calm down. (I leave ARod out because he had health issues and has proven at certain times in past that he can do it.)

  • tomaconda

    im sure these same people would lobby hard for trading Arod and Jeter for Tulo and Longoria. What a joke!

    • trueblue

      I’d do that trade in a second

    • MannyGeee

      where do I sign?

  • Tyrone Sharpton

    I always knew when they signed A-Fraud that he would not be the ansah for this team. May Jehovah grant that he don’t pass Barry Bonds or Willie Mays in homeruns. I could care less about Babe Ruth, damn white boy ate bull testicles and got an unfair advantage from that.It’s a shame Griffey Jr. couldn’t have stayed heatlhy, else he’da had 800 homer runs

    • bakekrukow412

      Sing the song, Child.

  • Captain Obvious

    Does anyone have the stats to back up my observation that it seemed like the Yankee offense performed much better when Arod was not in the line up this past season? Seems like everytime he came back the offense struggled and the team lost alot more games.

    • Monteroisdinero

      This has happened before. Maybe other players step up or maybe the lineup works better with more contact, a stolen base etc. Can we win without ARod? Of course. Is that an option? No.

      I certainly get frustrated when he is out, or is stinking it up when he is in there, but if he misses large parts of the season due to injury, it doesn’t seem to hurt us as much as you’d think.

  • Alibaba

    I would have rearranged the order to bat Posada after Cano in game 5. Gardner should have been at 1 or 2.

  • trueblue

    When you can get similar production at 1/3rd the price one should expect a rash of shit when you don’t get the job done..

    It is the worst contract in baseball as we speak, and it’s only getting uglier.

  • Mike HC

    “Joe Torre in the Commissioner’s Office couldn’t read a weather forecast on Friday before Game 1,”

    haha … good one

  • CMP

    It’s comical how Arod shoulders the brunt of the blame for losing in the first round to Detroit.

    Why isn’t anyone calling for the head of Sabatthia, Jeter, Teixeria, Martin, Swisher and Girardi who all had terrible series?

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      Because A-Rod is a dirty, ungritty, overenthusiastic, lazy spic who’s ruining the game of baseball for all of the calm, collected white ballplayers who play the game the right way.

  • Jose M. Vazquez..

    Let`s get back to basics. In 1996, 98, 99 and 2000 we won with good pitching no superstars but with a bunch of very good ballplayers who did their task in an opportune manner. So far the big names have brought us one championship in eight years. I yearn for the days of Bernie,Pauley, Scottie and Tino of El Duque and Cone, of course a young Posada and Jeter. That was a team! Wow!

    • http://riveraveblues.com Rich

      Yeah I loved Brosius–he was a hell of a third baseman–good and clutch hitter and we got him for next to nothing!

    • Stephen

      Did I miss something? There were no superstars on the 96/98/99/00 teams?

      Knoblauch (huge star who bullied his way to the yanks)
      Jeter (not a superstar?)
      Bernie (borderline HOF in his prime)
      Pettitte / Wells / Cone – no stars there?
      Irabu – huge deal to bring him in

      In 99, they added some guy named Roger Clementine, or something. I heard he was a bit of a star.

      In 2000, they added David Justice. I’m pretty sure I saw him in Moneyball: The Movie.


      It is just silly to say that the Yankees didn’t have stars back then. They got away with the combination of the core-four peaking around the same time (and cheaply, may I add), plus the addition of a great supporting cast that really clicked (note that some of those deals worked out, like getting Brosius for the remains of Kenny Rogers, and some didn’t work out, like resigning Brosius and trading away Mike Lowell). The same thing could be said about today’s team (good = Swisher for nothing. Bad = AJ for giant piles of cash).

      It would be nice if you could get great players for nothing all of the time. Turns out that 31 other GMs are also trying to improve their team too, and most of them aren’t stupid. “Under valued” just doesn’t happen as much as you’d like.

  • tom

    Anyone who tries to forecast ARod’s next 1-3 years is simply guessing. At this point we have zero idea whether this year was the sign of permanent diminishment, or a fluky poor year dictated by injuries; it won’t be till we get another look at him — over a significant span of 2012 at-bats — that we can make even an educated projection.

    Yeah, his performance in this post-season was a major factor in the team’s loss. In retrospect, he wasn’t healthy enough to fill the clean-up spot. But, as they say, hindsight is always 20/20. Now everyone is saying Girardi should have dropped or benched him. I wonder how many of these are the same people who screamed that Joe Torre was panicking by dropping him in the line-up in ’06.

    Has anyone considered that ARod’s difficulties were magnified by facing a nearly non-stop parade of right-handed pichers? His one real shot at a lefty — in game 4 — was when he looked best. Maybe, if the Yanks had had the luck to face Texas, we’d be singing a different tune here.

    The bottom line is this: the Yankees are gone from the playoffs; they’re not going to win the World Series. And, fair/justified or not, this entitles every bozo analyst to trot out their favorite theory as to why. Mike Lupica quoted some guy yesterday with the old “they feast on crap pitching but can’t hit good pitching, and in the playoffs it’s all good pitching” argument — which sort of overlooks the 9- and 10-run outbursts in Ganmes 1 and 4, as well as how much more difficult that argument would be to make with one or two bloop hits in Game 5. But that doesn’t matter. As long as the team doesn’t win, every jerkoff gets to take his shot and some people will take it seriously. Given the Daily News’ long-standing animus toward ARod, this attack is utterly predictable and to be ignored by anyone with an ounce of sense.

  • JustSayin

    ARod’s post season numbers. He uses the ALDS as a warm up for the ALCS and WS apparently.

    16 Post Season Series – OPS = .884

    10 ALDS = .750
    5 ALCS = 1.047
    1 WS = .973

    • Tim

      This is a bit misleading, IMO. A-Rod’s inability to hit in the LDS has directly led his team to be eliminated in that round. In the years where he has hit in the LDS (specifically 2009, when he was an animal, and 2004), he was able to carry his hot hitting to the next round(s). So basically, when he’s hot in the playoffs, his team makes it to the LCS and he stays hot, then his team makes it to the WS and he stays hot. When he’s bad in the LDS, his team goes home and he can’t carry his “badness” into the LCS and beyond. Naturally, the stats for the LCS and WS would be significantly better than the LDS.

      • Tim

        This doesn’t mean I blame A-Rod for the team’s loss. Just that he’s so important to the success of the Yankees (even still) that when he struggles, it is very tough for the team to make up for that struggle and win in the post-season.

  • cr1

    Is there something I don’t know about Swisher’s forebears?

  • cr1

    I tried but failed to leave my comment about Swisher’s forebears as a reply to the above comment about calm and collected white guys… sorry.