UPDATE: Sabathia available in Game Five, but not Verlander


Update (Oct. 6th): You can rest easy now, Verlander will in fact not be available tonight. He threw a total of 56 pitches during his between-start bullpen session this afternoon. Max Scherzer, who shut the Yankees down in Game Two, is available in relief tonight, however.

Original Post (Oct. 5th): Via George King, CC Sabathia will be ready to go out of the bullpen in Game Five if needed. “It’s my bullpen day, so I will be ready to go,” said Sabathia. Remember, Sabathia was available in relief in Game Six of the ALCS last year, but Joe Girardi never gave him the ball. Being ready is one thing, being used is another. I think the bullpen is deep enough and rested enough that CC won’t be needed unless it goes crazy extra innings, or something.

As for Justin Verlander, he will be ready to pitch in relief tomorrow night as well, but Jim Leyland insists he won’t use him. “I wouldn’t do anything foolish,” said Leyland. “I try not to do anything foolish with any of my pitchers, let alone an arm like that.”

Categories : Asides, Pitching, Playoffs


  1. Drew says:

    Does Nova get the Quick Hook tomorrow, and if so who’s coming in? Hughes for multiple innings or do you think CC will be used?

  2. Supernova says:

    He won’t be needed. Detroit doesn’t have a big lefty like Hamilton. Once Nova gets us through 6 or 7 it’ll go to SoRoMo and nobody else will pitch in this ballgame.

  3. billbybob says:

    I didn’t realize that using your best pitcher in relief was foolish. Thanks for filling me in Jim.

    • Oscar Gamble's Fro says:

      That’s what you interpret Leyland’s comment to mean? Really?

      • Supernova says:

        That’s not what he means but it is foolish. He’s treating Verlander like he’s a 22 year old kid in his first major league season. The Tiger pen has been awful this series. If Leyland has a 1 run lead to protect late in the game it’s good to know that he won’t be using Verlander.

        • Oscar Gamble's Fro says:

          Agree that Verlander should be used if needed, also agree that it’s comforting to at least think Leyland won’t use him (nothing to stop Leyland from changing his mind or keeping me from thinking he may be engaging in a little okie-doke.)

          • king of fruitless hypotheticals says:

            If he didn’t say using him in relief was foolish, then he called CC/Girardi foolish. Either way, I’m hoping Verlander doesn’t pitch and they lose. They can argue about it in whatever city Detroit comes from on Friday.

  4. Oscar Gamble's Fro says:

    Robertson and Mariano can both definitely go two, right? An if Robertson doesn’t run into trouble he can probably go three, or no? Soriano can go at least one definitely. That’s five, or maybe even six innings right there, do not need much from Ivan “Supah” Nova.

    OT: Anyone gonna be in The Stadium for the game?

  5. Bill says:

    Yea I wouldn’t use Sabathia unless a situation arose early, but can’t think of one that might warrant using him. If Nova gets into trouble early go to Wade and/or Hughes. Soriano, Robertson, and Mo can all go multiple innings. They could combine for 5 innings if needed and unless Nova is cruising will probably be counted on for the last 3-4 innings anyway.

  6. CUYanks says:

    I know we’d all love to have Sabathia lined up Game 1 of the ALCS, but I’d gladly take using him up if it means actually get there.

    • Oscar Gamble's Fro says:

      I, of course, want CC to start Game 1, but truth be told, the man does not really have a great post-season track record. Mad Dog Russo was killing him the other day saying he’s “too fat . . . couldn’t even bend down for the bunt . . . needs to put down the Capn’ Crunch and have a salad every now and again.” Strongly implicating he runs out of gas at the end of the season because he’s out of shape. Don’t necessarily buy that and haven’t looked closely at the numbers, but it was pretty entertaining stuff.

      • CUYanks says:

        Not sure I buy the running out of gas story, considering September is his best month by ERA and WHIP throughout his career. He has had some shaky postseason starts, but he was undoubtedly ace-like in 2009 (on short rest sometimes), and last start was effectively on 2 days rest, so it could be understandable that he would be a little out of rhythm. Unfortunately, no pitcher is a guarantee for any small sample of starts, be it Sabathia, Cliff Lee, Andy Pettitte, etc., but he is certainly one of the best options out there, and his amenability to pitch on short rest as much as any pitcher in baseball makes him an even greater asset in the postseason.

  7. Dave the Ox says:

    Let’s do it like the All-Star Game. Nova for 1-2; Hughes for 3-4; Wade for 5; Logan for 6; Soriano for 7; Robertson for 8; Mo for 9.


  8. Dave the Ox says:

    Oops. Substitute CC for Logan in 6th.

  9. Bob Michaels says:

    Sabathia won`t be needed.

  10. king of fruitless hypotheticals says:

    Nova CGSHO book it.

  11. Mike says:

    He won’t be used in less this game goes way into extra innings. They are saving him for Game 1 of the ALCS if they make it. The big question is, who starts Game 2? Game 5 of this series is Thursday, Game 2 of ALCS is Sunday so it’s not going to be Nova. In all likelihood it’s Burnett or Garcia for Game 2, and whoever doesn’t pitch that game will probably pitch a Game 5 after Nova goes Game 3 and CC goes Game 4. Then of course, there could be more rainouts LOL. Keep in mind I said If they make it so I don’t want to waste a whole discussion on it, but here’s how I’d do it, If there are no rainouts obviously:

    1- CC
    2- Burnett (can’t believe I said that lol)
    3- Nova
    4- CC
    5- Garcia
    6- Burnett
    7- CC

  12. Chad Gaudin the Friendly Ghost says:

    Rivera will be available for fifteen outs if need be.


  13. Midland TX says:

    If only we could trot out Ubaldo, and then Melancon to close. Sigh.

  14. Alex Taffet says:

    Tonight, that will become the most pointless “between start” bullpen session of Verlander’s career.

  15. Rainbow Connection says:

    I don’t want that weird-eyed creep Scherzer coming into the game. He looks like an inbred Daniel Craig.

  16. Jorge (needs a new name) says:

    They’re going to need to bring Jack Fucking Morris in tonight by the time the Yanks are done with them. Go Yankees!

  17. rj says:

    Put the big boy pants on….

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